ChromiumOS is the Open Source version. ChromeOS is Googles 'officially supported' build, and I'll bet you that they sneak in other crap into the installer when it is finally released.
I no longer trust Google, they are the new Microsoft.
don't you understand that when you purchase a machine with Windows installed you are giving your money to a bloodthirsty, criminal organization bent on enslaving the entire world via proprietary software?
don't you understand that when you purchase a machine with ChromeOS installed you are giving your money to a bloodthirsty, criminal organization bent on enslaving the entire world via proprietary software?
I think you should try installing windows more often then. It is not exactly "click-click-done" either. After you install the "Operative System", you have to install all the drivers (IF they exist at all; I remind you that lots of 5-year old hardware actually don't have drivers for Vista).
The FIRST thing Linux guys say when you mention you are having problems with a distro, is 'You should install the latest release.' - The EXACT same thing is true of Windows. Windows 7 IS click-click-done. In fact I'll step through them here for you:
1. Boot USB/DVD 2. Choose Geographical Location only (finally with Win7 it now auto sets everything else). 3. Enter Username and Password. 4. (If WiFi Detected) Choose Access Point to connect to. 5. Log In. 6. Enjoy/Profit
[Sequence Shortened, but NO steps removed. (to mis-quote Apple)]
That's it. On almost all hardware built in the past 5 years. I used to manage corporate deployments of Windows, so I'm the last person to say that Windows is easy to deploy/configure (it wasn't), but Windows 7 is a massive leap forwards, even over Vista.
And barring Office, Windows 7 ships with everything the average user needs (Internet/Photos/Media/Burning).
I'm all for people promoting their preferences of OS, but lets at least start with a level playing field shall we ?
I have all my wireless IP addresses on a different subnet.
I do not use the DHCP server in the router but instead, wireless machines query the DHCP server on the Linux server.
Is this do-able on Windows DHCP ? I'm using pfSense, and have it serving out 192.168.2.x for my wireless, against 192.168.1.x for my wired (OPT1 and LAN in pfSense language), but I'm having DNS issues on the wireless where they either resolve to internet or LAN domain, but never both. I'm rambling but in essence can I get Windows DHCP to 'know' that the requesting client is on wireless, and serve out an IP from the appropriate scope ?
Ditto. Alt+PrtScn is your current-dialog-capturing-friend!
Although, it still amazes me the amount of people who still install 'freeware' utilities to take screengrabs of dialogs, when Windows has had that functionality built in for many versions...... and I kid you not, I did once have this conversation:
User: I need Photoshop CS2 installed, here's my Cost-Code. Me: Why? User: I write documentation that needs screenshots. Me: You know you can screengrab via windows and paste directly into Word? User: I don't care, Bob has Photoshop, and I want a copy as well. Me: *sigh* Ok, I'll buy a copy and charge your dept...
Ok, In europe a large segment of small/medium businesses don't actually do there-and-then online authentication for small card payments - these businesses can be identified by their refusal to take visa electron card ( which REQUIRE online validation for every transaction ). These retailers then do a mass verificaiton at the end of the day etc.
I think the way forward here is that as part of your small business bank account perks, your bank sells/rents you (at discount) one of those hand held 3G card terminals (commonly seen brought to your table in restaurants). This system would protect the small business from bounced cheques (why IS that spelt differently in the US?) whilst providing the customer with a familiar experience.
And when was the last time anyone under the age of 90 actually used one of those ?
Do they even still exist ? Most Post Offices grumble about taking parcels these days, I shudder to think how the coversation would go for anything more exotic...
It's Simple. Lets look at it in Star Trek Film terms:
Windows 2/286 & The Motion Picture = Crap Windows 3.x & The Wrath of Khaannnn = Good Windows 95 & Search for Spock = Crap Windows 98(SE) & The Voyage Home = Good Windows ME & Final Frontier = Crap Windows 2000/XP(1) & Undiscovered Country = Good Windows Vista & Generations = Crap Windows 7 & First Contact = Good
Which means...
Windows 8 & Insurrection = Crap Windows 9 & Nemesis = Good
See? It's easy to work it out when you look at it:)
(1) I consider 2000/XP to be the same thing as they share the same underlying OS (and it also made my Trek metaphor work...)
Got Office 2003 ? Some of that is.NET code. Got Live Messenger ? Ditto. Nvidia or ATI graphics cards ? well, those DEFINITELY need.NET to work properly. Let's not forget all those extra bits of freeware you've also got, some of those will be.NET based as well.
As I understand it, this add-on just alters the useragent to declare that the PC it's running on is.NET capable (i.e. you got at least one version of the.NET framework installed). This is a good thing - as it means MORE sites that have.net extensions or controls will work in FF, meaning you can finally ditch IE completely (in theory).
Yes their installation methods were suspect - but remember MS's major user base is The Doe Family, who can just about turn their PC on and off. Do you really thing they know the answer to 'Do you really want to install the.NET Framework Assistant ?' - If course they wont know what that is, or whether they need it.
Does your mechanic, dentist, doctor, explain to you each and every thing they do to you or your car in intimate detail ? No.
The PC is becoming a closed box appliance. You can't fight this.
An finally, if you distrust MS SO much - why did you have Windows Updates on anyway!?
I've recently just watched Indy 4, and I (and my partner) thought it was quite good; It retained the humour of 1 and 3, and had a fairly silly but fun plotline...
But then again, we also watched The Mummy 3 that weekend too, so maybe that affected our viewpoint somewhat....:/
You're constantly replaying a 4 year old game and you're saying console gaming is in a rut?
No, I'm constantly playing a game for 10 months* (when I started WoW) - As I'm only mid level, I'm still discovering and learning new stuff. When (if) I get to level 70 (or whatever the new expansion sets the upper level to), then yeah I'm sure the novelty will wear off.
Also, WoW is constantly updated, there's new patches about once a month, adding and changing stuff, not to mention the two large expansion packs, that completely revamp the whole game.
My point was, that underneath EVERY console game is one of 3 types: War, Driving, and Sports. What people call RPGs on consoles isn't really RPG, it's just the War model with some basic stats added. For real RPG players, console RPGs are very much RPG-lite, aimed at first timers.
-Jar (* Yes, 10 months, and I'm not even level 70, all _real_ WoW players feel free to mock me.)
The reason there are no MMOs for the current crop of consoles is down to how the online games are hosted.
With PC MMOs, there is a massive server infrastructure that you as a client connect into, this infrastructure keeps the game going even if no-one plays it, and has to be maintained for as long as there is (enough) player demand, which could be several years.
Publishers view the console market as crash-and-burn with each new game typically expected to be played by more than 10% of players for only about 3 months or so (Halo being the obvious exception).
So that the console game publishers don't have to constantly invest in server farms for games that only have critical mass for a few weeks, they went with peer-hosted online gaming; One player becomes the 'host' and the other players connect to them as peers. If that 'host' disconnects then the game is over.
I'm glad that Sony have thrown their hat into the ring with regard to console MMOs and I do hope that other publishers follow suit, however, I feel that as the console player demographic is mostly 10-25 in age it is unlikely that MMOs on consoles will take off - mostly because that demographic would rather spend the monthly subs that most MMOs require on the next new shiny war* game that's just come out.
Also, it has to be said, can a console REALLY provide the complex interface that makes most MMOs so involving ? I'm a WoW player (not uber, lvl 70 is still WAY off for me), and the amount of key bindings needed to make the game effective is mind-bending - not sure how you'd translate that to a Wiimote or 360 controller.
-Jar
(* I mean, how many war games do we really need? They are all the same, no really, they are. And then there's all the samey driving games, plus not forgetting ALL those EA Sports games. Console gaming is in a rut, which is why my 360 gathers dust while I slaughter Elementals in WoW for hours on end.)
1. Take a plastic squash bottle that has the indented rings around the body. 2. Cut out one of the rings 3. Paint the inside of the ring in brown. 4. Stick coloured plastic blobs or stickers on the ouside of the ring. 5. Slide onto wrist 6. Profit!
I LIKE the UAC. There, I've said it. Feel free to stone me.;)
Seriously tho, it's a good sanity check. I tend to use all the tools for Active Directory quite a lot, and having the UAC pop up, reminds me that I'm about to do something potentially dangerous.
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ChromiumOS is the Open Source version. ChromeOS is Googles 'officially supported' build, and I'll bet you that they sneak in other crap into the installer when it is finally released.
I no longer trust Google, they are the new Microsoft.
-Jar
Ahhh, It's the 7-digit /. users. Was I ever that young ?
(and yes, compared to some of you, my ID is massive also...)
-Jar
don't you understand that when you purchase a machine with Windows installed you are giving your money to a bloodthirsty, criminal organization bent on enslaving the entire world via proprietary software?
don't you understand that when you purchase a machine with ChromeOS installed you are giving your money to a bloodthirsty, criminal organization bent on enslaving the entire world via proprietary software?
-Jar
IIRC the GMA 950 only just makes it into the Windows 7 Aero club as well.
-Jar
I think you should try installing windows more often then. It is not exactly "click-click-done" either. After you install the "Operative System", you have to install all the drivers (IF they exist at all; I remind you that lots of 5-year old hardware actually don't have drivers for Vista).
The FIRST thing Linux guys say when you mention you are having problems with a distro, is 'You should install the latest release.' - The EXACT same thing is true of Windows. Windows 7 IS click-click-done. In fact I'll step through them here for you:
1. Boot USB/DVD
2. Choose Geographical Location only (finally with Win7 it now auto sets everything else).
3. Enter Username and Password.
4. (If WiFi Detected) Choose Access Point to connect to.
5. Log In.
6. Enjoy/Profit
[Sequence Shortened, but NO steps removed. (to mis-quote Apple)]
That's it. On almost all hardware built in the past 5 years. I used to manage corporate deployments of Windows, so I'm the last person to say that Windows is easy to deploy/configure (it wasn't), but Windows 7 is a massive leap forwards, even over Vista.
And barring Office, Windows 7 ships with everything the average user needs (Internet/Photos/Media/Burning).
I'm all for people promoting their preferences of OS, but lets at least start with a level playing field shall we ?
-Jar
But, I don't want to die in a fire. :(
When I see binary, I just HAVE to decode it. Now you'll have to change it ;)
I have all my wireless IP addresses on a different subnet.
I do not use the DHCP server in the router but instead, wireless machines query the DHCP server on the Linux server.
Is this do-able on Windows DHCP ? I'm using pfSense, and have it serving out 192.168.2.x for my wireless, against 192.168.1.x for my wired (OPT1 and LAN in pfSense language), but I'm having DNS issues on the wireless where they either resolve to internet or LAN domain, but never both. I'm rambling but in essence can I get Windows DHCP to 'know' that the requesting client is on wireless, and serve out an IP from the appropriate scope ?
-Jar
Ditto. Alt+PrtScn is your current-dialog-capturing-friend!
Although, it still amazes me the amount of people who still install 'freeware' utilities to take screengrabs of dialogs, when Windows has had that functionality built in for many versions... ... and I kid you not, I did once have this conversation:
User: I need Photoshop CS2 installed, here's my Cost-Code.
Me: Why?
User: I write documentation that needs screenshots.
Me: You know you can screengrab via windows and paste directly into Word?
User: I don't care, Bob has Photoshop, and I want a copy as well.
Me: *sigh* Ok, I'll buy a copy and charge your dept...
-Jar
I'm not a Linux User... .but how on earth do you press all of those keys down together?!
.... which is exactly the same process that gave us that cinematic masterpiece: 'Batman & Robin'
Marvel (Disney)
Ugh. Seeing those two words together make me shudder.
Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you... Spider-Mouse.
I know the guy who deveoped this:
http://www.web2mail.com/
And at the time I (and others) thought 'what's the point?' - but your post clearly shows there is a need apparantly.
-Jar
Ok, In europe a large segment of small/medium businesses don't actually do there-and-then online authentication for small card payments - these businesses can be identified by their refusal to take visa electron card ( which REQUIRE online validation for every transaction ). These retailers then do a mass verificaiton at the end of the day etc.
I think the way forward here is that as part of your small business bank account perks, your bank sells/rents you (at discount) one of those hand held 3G card terminals (commonly seen brought to your table in restaurants). This system would protect the small business from bounced cheques (why IS that spelt differently in the US?) whilst providing the customer with a familiar experience.
-Jar
With a postal order.
And when was the last time anyone under the age of 90 actually used one of those ?
Do they even still exist ? Most Post Offices grumble about taking parcels these days, I shudder to think how the coversation would go for anything more exotic...
-Jar
Yeah, I'll just tell my current CIO that he should roll out Linux to all 120,000 desktops shall I ?
-Jar
It's Simple. Lets look at it in Star Trek Film terms:
Windows 2/286 & The Motion Picture = Crap
Windows 3.x & The Wrath of Khaannnn = Good
Windows 95 & Search for Spock = Crap
Windows 98(SE) & The Voyage Home = Good
Windows ME & Final Frontier = Crap
Windows 2000/XP(1) & Undiscovered Country = Good
Windows Vista & Generations = Crap
Windows 7 & First Contact = Good
Which means...
Windows 8 & Insurrection = Crap
Windows 9 & Nemesis = Good
See? It's easy to work it out when you look at it :)
(1) I consider 2000/XP to be the same thing as they share the same underlying OS (and it also made my Trek metaphor work...)
-Jar
I don't use .NET.
I bet you do.
Got Office 2003 ? Some of that is .NET code. Got Live Messenger ? Ditto. Nvidia or ATI graphics cards ? well, those DEFINITELY need .NET to work properly. Let's not forget all those extra bits of freeware you've also got, some of those will be .NET based as well.
As I understand it, this add-on just alters the useragent to declare that the PC it's running on is .NET capable (i.e. you got at least one version of the .NET framework installed). This is a good thing - as it means MORE sites that have .net extensions or controls will work in FF, meaning you can finally ditch IE completely (in theory).
Yes their installation methods were suspect - but remember MS's major user base is The Doe Family, who can just about turn their PC on and off. Do you really thing they know the answer to 'Do you really want to install the .NET Framework Assistant ?' - If course they wont know what that is, or whether they need it.
Does your mechanic, dentist, doctor, explain to you each and every thing they do to you or your car in intimate detail ? No.
The PC is becoming a closed box appliance. You can't fight this.
An finally, if you distrust MS SO much - why did you have Windows Updates on anyway!?
I've recently just watched Indy 4, and I (and my partner) thought it was quite good; It retained the humour of 1 and 3, and had a fairly silly but fun plotline ...
But then again, we also watched The Mummy 3 that weekend too, so maybe that affected our viewpoint somewhat.... :/
-Jar
You're constantly replaying a 4 year old game and you're saying console gaming is in a rut?
No, I'm constantly playing a game for 10 months* (when I started WoW) - As I'm only mid level, I'm still discovering and learning new stuff. When (if) I get to level 70 (or whatever the new expansion sets the upper level to), then yeah I'm sure the novelty will wear off.
Also, WoW is constantly updated, there's new patches about once a month, adding and changing stuff, not to mention the two large expansion packs, that completely revamp the whole game.
My point was, that underneath EVERY console game is one of 3 types: War, Driving, and Sports. What people call RPGs on consoles isn't really RPG, it's just the War model with some basic stats added. For real RPG players, console RPGs are very much RPG-lite, aimed at first timers.
-Jar
(* Yes, 10 months, and I'm not even level 70, all _real_ WoW players feel free to mock me.)
The reason there are no MMOs for the current crop of consoles is down to how the online games are hosted.
With PC MMOs, there is a massive server infrastructure that you as a client connect into, this infrastructure keeps the game going even if no-one plays it, and has to be maintained for as long as there is (enough) player demand, which could be several years.
Publishers view the console market as crash-and-burn with each new game typically expected to be played by more than 10% of players for only about 3 months or so (Halo being the obvious exception).
So that the console game publishers don't have to constantly invest in server farms for games that only have critical mass for a few weeks, they went with peer-hosted online gaming; One player becomes the 'host' and the other players connect to them as peers. If that 'host' disconnects then the game is over.
I'm glad that Sony have thrown their hat into the ring with regard to console MMOs and I do hope that other publishers follow suit, however, I feel that as the console player demographic is mostly 10-25 in age it is unlikely that MMOs on consoles will take off - mostly because that demographic would rather spend the monthly subs that most MMOs require on the next new shiny war* game that's just come out.
Also, it has to be said, can a console REALLY provide the complex interface that makes most MMOs so involving ? I'm a WoW player (not uber, lvl 70 is still WAY off for me), and the amount of key bindings needed to make the game effective is mind-bending - not sure how you'd translate that to a Wiimote or 360 controller.
-Jar
(* I mean, how many war games do we really need? They are all the same, no really, they are. And then there's all the samey driving games, plus not forgetting ALL those EA Sports games. Console gaming is in a rut, which is why my 360 gathers dust while I slaughter Elementals in WoW for hours on end.)
*Cough* AnyDVD *Cough*
-Jar
They also did the liberators teleport braclet:
1. Take a plastic squash bottle that has the indented rings around the body.
2. Cut out one of the rings
3. Paint the inside of the ring in brown.
4. Stick coloured plastic blobs or stickers on the ouside of the ring.
5. Slide onto wrist
6. Profit!
(Pic of bracelets from the show: http://www.martinbowersmodelworld.com/Copy_of_bracelets1.jpg )
-Jar
Back in those days, continuing a cancelled series with a 'tv movie' was unheard of. Once a show was gone, it was gone (Even Dr. Who!).
It's only since DVDs have become a MAJOR influence on a shows popularity, have the concept of TV Movies to finish off story arcs become popular.
-Jar
This is all bunk, he's already got something 'spacy' named after him:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarke_belt
-Jar
I LIKE the UAC. There, I've said it. Feel free to stone me. ;)
Seriously tho, it's a good sanity check. I tend to use all the tools for Active Directory quite a lot, and having the UAC pop up, reminds me that I'm about to do something potentially dangerous.
-Jar