approval of RIAA and the MPAA - where is the DRM how dare they create a device that lets us play music that doesn't have any DRM - how absurd.
You are not suppose to be able to play you music in any room you like - when you buy a song/cdrom you can only play in one room and one place - you want to play everywhere you have to pay for multiple copies.
because Vietnam will become the next outsourcing center - now that India is used up and they are demanding more salaries because they are experienced they have to go somewhere else to pay minimum wage for tech support.
So now America is outsourced to India which will be outsourced to Vietnam.
microsoft can beat Linux - is by outlawing/sueing it. They can't beat it technically because they can't program worth a shit. All they can do now is politic and shove their crap software down people's throat.
Microsoft sucks - fsck off bill and steve and tell George W hello when you guys go over to the ranch next time.
with him on some points - like the classic part - I still use classic at home for my daughter's educational software either because it hasn't been rewritten for 10.x or it is too dam expensive to buy the macosx version. Not when I can dual boot into Ubuntu linux and have the same program/functionality.
I upgraded her hard drive to a 40gig the other day and something strange was happening - I would install classic 9.1 first - I used a 9.75 partition but then when I installed macosx it would not install because the partition was larger than the first 8 gig - strange that an old os was able to install onto a bigger partition than the newer os.
I these respects there is a lot to be said to open source - you can basically buy any hardware and install your os and have it always updated to the latest version without any worries.
We will probably get a lot of life out of this Imac tray-loading thanks to open source.
they are underrated because worm CEO's make deals with microsoft to make themselves rich and once those deals are made there is enough spin on it to put down any competition.
Novell has always had superior products compared to microsoft - it's is just you actually had to know what you are doing to use them - unlike microsoft's where any moron can screw things up.
Sorry if I seem rough but I have always liked novell's networking - NDS just rocks - it blows active directory away - it runs on any platform - and is LDAP compliant - they were doing NDS while microsoft was playing with netlogon, windows3.11 tcp/ip and the wonderful scalable domain structure.
This deal brings joy to my day - hopefully more will follow - this is nothing but good, good for the community, good for novell, and just plain overall good. Hopefully they will give the knowledge they learn back to community and we can all learn and benefit from their experience - which as we all know is the strength of open source.
where is my fricken linux desktop - i would not give the US any credit till companies start rolling out linux corporate desktops and start forcing vendors to have their hardware supported under linux.
really matter - the consumer will end up paying for it anyway -
if the manufacturer pays for it - they will just up the price of the system - if the municipality pays for it the taxes will just go up - so I guess it should be the consumer paying for it on an as needed basis - the only problem is if they don't do it then your not really gaining anything. so it probably should be the municipality responsibility to do it - I think it would just be easier if you could put your old monitor out on trash day and have them take it to the proper recycling center.
that is what will benefit the planet the most because it will be easy and people will do it.
I guess he wants to be our leader - fuck him - who the hell does he think he is.
the article about P.J wasn't journalism - it was complete and utter trash that would be found in the news rags at the grocery store. This is where his article should found too. I let SYS-CON know it too - I canceled my subscription to SYS-ADMIN magazine and told them why - and I applaud the editors at LinuxWorld - they stand behind what they write.
I find it highly degrading that he thinks I am a criminal despot. I wish slashdot wouldn't even post his articles. This guy is nothing but SCO and Microsoft PR.
OSS does not need a leader - that is the power of it - it is the people that control it not ego maniacs like him and the majority of CEO's out there.
So Rob why don't you just go count your SCO and Microsoft stocks somewhere and shut the hell up. We do not need FUD like yours.
but I could already build an 8086 mac mini size box already for about half the cost of a mac mini.
not that I would but I already had priced it for friend who was interested but then decided he wanted something that would be upgradable/expandable.
I have an imac for my daughter and I like a lot and it is very mobile I can move it from room to room and it is sort of upgradeble - i.e hard drive/memory but that is about it. It is still a very usable computer - I have ubuntu on it and it is pretty snappy and I find myself using for a desktop sometimes - and it does look pretty cool I have to say.
That said I will probably buy a mac mini when you can get a used one for at least half the price of the new one.
I do know enough not to put any microsoft on any public facing site - and if you do you are the clueless one. My applications face the public and are scrutinized by a security team - we will not put any microsoft product on a public facing site - it doesn't scale - believe me we are have tried in a lab and it really doesn't scale. I have written componentized, ineteroperable, maintainable system in both Perl and Python and yes they do scale and are very secure because of the reasons mentioned above.
As far as starting.net four years ago - it was vaporware four years ago and if you put it production four years ago then you really can do magic..net is just now almost ready for production sites but it runs on microsoft so we can't put it on external sites because of the insecurity of their platform.
Since you say it was out four years ago then why can't MS put it in longhorn - microsoft is even dropping it from longhorn because it such an "advanced RAD tool". Must be too advanced for longhorn or if it is so componentized, interoperable, maintainable system why can't they put it in longhorn. I have perl and python all over my linux distribution and it actually is scalable, componentized, and interoperates with anything. so where is this.net in microsoft's os since is such an "advanced RAD environment" as you say.
you are clueless - java and.net do not scale very well - you need tons of hardware - but that just may be my experience.
most advanced RAD environment is such a blanket statement and a very personal opinion. I have worked with.net and java for the past six months or so and I much prefer perl and python - but again that may be just me - I can produce much faster in perl/python than I can in.net or java and I feel I have more control over what I want to do. So for me it isn't the most advanced RAD envrionment. And best of all it is free of any kind of license restrictions or secret nda's and will run on any free os so startup costs are basically nill. All that advancenss you talk about takes more costs to get up and running.
This article is nothing but fluff and pr - it really doesn't say a whole lot but make a whole bunch of so called IT managers want to buy their crap.
I swear I think articles like are put just as fishing bait - just to see what IT managers will bite and buy.
but america is becoming the land of the litigation. our economy is built on sueing.
I know one thing - at least in the community I live lawyer are admired, worshipped, and just plain respected. Everyone here would rather have their kid become a lawyer than a computer person.
Computer people here in my community are basically the blunt of jokes and called geeks. So if you were in college which profession would you choose. But this may be just where I live here in the states.
Also if you become a lawyer you can start your own personal law practice if you want and have the energy/drive - with computers you could start your own software business with little resources except with all the software patents you run the risk of being sued and loosing your business.
And then if you work for company as a software programmer and stay with them and do your job and come to work everyday you eventually get laid off because you are now earning too much and there are outsourcing companies that can do your job at a less cost - you know salary (which you worked all these years to build up) benefits, vacation etc. I usually never hear any mass layoffs of lawyers for these companies or the lawyers are getting outsourced.
One last one is I know at least for me it just isn't fun to program in windows and that is what all these corporations are shoving down people's throats - and for me my job has to be fun. Where I work the corporate desktop is windows and everything is developed on the intranet for ie6 - how much fun is that? At least I am programing for our external sites and NONE of our external sites use windows - coporate security won't allow it. That says something I guess. And at least I can get exceptions because I am programming for all platforms (external sites) so I can work basically with anything/everything.
These are just a few of the drawbacks of but I am sure there are more.
Ballmer is just a plain idiot - I am glad he isn't my boss.
I am so sick of their attitude - like they are the only pc os in the world and we are suppose to be waiting on their predictions and where their company is going - maybe their stockholders are but I am not a microsoft stockholder and I hope I live to see the day they go down.
I could care less what Ballmer thinks - he has no effect on my computing environment from day to day. I don't even touch a windows pc and I am in front of a computer all day.
think either is better - but my personal choice is firefox because it renders web pages beautifully and is very fast. It is also free - which helps. But I contributed to the mozilla org foundation so I guess it isn't free in my case - but I would still choose it because the way it renders web pages.
I do like opera but why would I want to pay for something when there is something free and better (in my opinion) available. Kind of like why would I pay for windows when I can get Linux.
SBC and was wondering what the IP Knowledge Ventures was created for but now I guess I know.
I think I am going to throw up - and then I will get my resume together -
Something is wrong when we have to resort to this for making a profit. The company has bigger problems than just trying to generate revenue.
approval of RIAA and the MPAA - where is the DRM how dare they create a device that lets us play music that doesn't have any DRM - how absurd.
You are not suppose to be able to play you music in any room you like - when you buy a song/cdrom you can only play in one room and one place - you want to play everywhere you have to pay for multiple copies.
Come on where is the humanity.
it is in a proprietary format and I can't read it from my linux box.
they should of done it in a format that is open and patent free.
anybody - Microsoft has done this for years and will still continue to do it.
because Vietnam will become the next outsourcing center - now that India is used up and they are demanding more salaries because they are experienced they have to go somewhere else to pay minimum wage for tech support.
So now America is outsourced to India which will be outsourced to Vietnam.
it was suppose to be some political humor you know like the way George W can't say nukleare -
microsoft can beat Linux - is by outlawing/sueing it. They can't beat it technically because they can't program worth a shit. All they can do now is politic and shove their crap software down people's throat.
Microsoft sucks - fsck off bill and steve and tell George W hello when you guys go over to the ranch next time.
speaks volumes when the first time a head of a country comes to the US in over thrity years goes to Microsoft first and then Washington.
Scarry - very scarry.
just what I wanted to do was to go into some strangers house and work on their windoze computer.
where do I sign up.
train I don't ride anymore - thank goodness.
goodbye billy and steve - have fun with your os. glad you are thinking about security.
with him on some points - like the classic part - I still use classic at home for my daughter's educational software either because it hasn't been rewritten for 10.x or it is too dam expensive to buy the macosx version. Not when I can dual boot into Ubuntu linux and have the same program/functionality.
I upgraded her hard drive to a 40gig the other day and something strange was happening - I would install classic 9.1 first - I used a 9.75 partition but then when I installed macosx it would not install because the partition was larger than the first 8 gig - strange that an old os was able to install onto a bigger partition than the newer os.
I these respects there is a lot to be said to open source - you can basically buy any hardware and install your os and have it always updated to the latest version without any worries.
We will probably get a lot of life out of this Imac tray-loading thanks to open source.
crock of shit
I guess they had to pump their stock up a little bit today -
congratulations to the debian team - great work!!
your contributions to open source are endless and huge!!! and believe me when I say this - IT IS GREATLY APPRECIATED!!!
THANKS!!!
they are underrated because worm CEO's make deals with microsoft to make themselves rich and once those deals are made there is enough spin on it to put down any competition.
Novell has always had superior products compared to microsoft - it's is just you actually had to know what you are doing to use them - unlike microsoft's where any moron can screw things up.
Sorry if I seem rough but I have always liked novell's networking - NDS just rocks - it blows active directory away - it runs on any platform - and is LDAP compliant - they were doing NDS while microsoft was playing with netlogon, windows3.11 tcp/ip and the wonderful scalable domain structure.
This deal brings joy to my day - hopefully more will follow - this is nothing but good, good for the community, good for novell, and just plain overall good. Hopefully they will give the knowledge they learn back to community and we can all learn and benefit from their experience - which as we all know is the strength of open source.
GO NOVELL!!!
where is my fricken linux desktop - i would not give the US any credit till companies start rolling out linux corporate desktops and start forcing vendors to have their hardware supported under linux.
really matter - the consumer will end up paying for it anyway -
if the manufacturer pays for it - they will just up the price of the system - if the municipality pays for it the taxes will just go up - so I guess it should be the consumer paying for it on an as needed basis - the only problem is if they don't do it then your not really gaining anything. so it probably should be the municipality responsibility to do it - I think it would just be easier if you could put your old monitor out on trash day and have them take it to the proper recycling center.
that is what will benefit the planet the most because it will be easy and people will do it.
what a moron
what a moron
I guess he wants to be our leader -
fuck him - who the hell does he think he is.
the article about P.J wasn't journalism - it was complete and utter trash that would be found in the news rags at the grocery store. This is where his article should found too. I let SYS-CON know it too - I canceled my subscription to SYS-ADMIN magazine and told them why - and I applaud the editors at LinuxWorld - they stand behind what they write.
I find it highly degrading that he thinks I am a criminal despot. I wish slashdot wouldn't even post his articles. This guy is nothing but SCO and Microsoft PR.
OSS does not need a leader - that is the power of it - it is the people that control it not ego maniacs like him and the majority of CEO's out there.
So Rob why don't you just go count your SCO and Microsoft stocks somewhere and shut the hell up.
We do not need FUD like yours.
but I could already build an 8086 mac mini size box already for about half the cost of a mac mini.
not that I would but I already had priced it for friend who was interested but then decided he wanted something that would be upgradable/expandable.
I have an imac for my daughter and I like a lot and it is very mobile I can move it from room to room and it is sort of upgradeble - i.e hard drive/memory but that is about it. It is still a very usable computer - I have ubuntu on it and it is pretty snappy and I find myself using for a desktop sometimes - and it does look pretty cool I have to say.
That said I will probably buy a mac mini when you can get a used one for at least half the price of the new one.
I do know enough not to put any microsoft on any public facing site - and if you do you are the clueless one. My applications face the public and are scrutinized by a security team - we will not put any microsoft product on a public facing site - it doesn't scale - believe me we are have tried in a lab and it really doesn't scale. I have written componentized, ineteroperable, maintainable system in both Perl and Python and yes they do scale and are very secure because of the reasons mentioned above.
.net four years ago - it was vaporware four years ago and if you put it production four years ago then you really can do magic. .net is just now almost ready for production sites but it runs on microsoft so we can't put it on external sites because of the insecurity of their platform.
.net in microsoft's os since is such an "advanced RAD environment" as you say.
As far as starting
Since you say it was out four years ago then why can't MS put it in longhorn - microsoft is even dropping it from longhorn because it such an "advanced RAD tool". Must be too advanced for longhorn or if it is so componentized, interoperable, maintainable system why can't they put it in longhorn. I have perl and python all over my linux distribution and it actually is scalable, componentized, and interoperates with anything. so where is this
all business relationships take a bad turn now and then and whose to say they won't retract this promise.
Look at IBM and SCO -
you are clueless - java and .net do not scale very well - you need tons of hardware - but that just may be my experience.
.net and java for the past six months or so and I much prefer perl and python - but again that may be just me - I can produce much faster in perl/python than I can in .net or java and I feel I have more control over what I want to do. So for me it isn't the most advanced RAD envrionment. And best of all it is free of any kind of license restrictions or secret nda's and will run on any free os so startup costs are basically nill.
most advanced RAD environment is such a blanket statement and a very personal opinion. I have worked with
All that advancenss you talk about takes more costs to get up and running.
This article is nothing but fluff and pr - it really doesn't say a whole lot but make a whole bunch of so called IT managers want to buy their crap.
I swear I think articles like are put just as fishing bait - just to see what IT managers will bite and buy.
but america is becoming the land of the litigation. our economy is built on sueing.
I know one thing - at least in the community I live lawyer are admired, worshipped, and just plain respected. Everyone here would rather have their kid become a lawyer than a computer person.
Computer people here in my community are basically the blunt of jokes and called geeks. So if you were in college which profession would you choose.
But this may be just where I live here in the states.
Also if you become a lawyer you can start your own personal law practice if you want and have the energy/drive - with computers you could start your own software business with little resources except with all the software patents you run the risk of being sued and loosing your business.
And then if you work for company as a software programmer and stay with them and do your job and come to work everyday you eventually get laid off because you are now earning too much and there are outsourcing companies that can do your job at a less cost - you know salary (which you worked all these years to build up) benefits, vacation etc.
I usually never hear any mass layoffs of lawyers for these companies or the lawyers are getting outsourced.
One last one is I know at least for me it just isn't fun to program in windows and that is what all these corporations are shoving down people's throats - and for me my job has to be fun. Where I work the corporate desktop is windows and everything is developed on the intranet for ie6 - how much fun is that? At least I am programing for our external sites and NONE of our external sites use windows - coporate security won't allow it. That says something I guess. And at least I can get exceptions because I am programming for all platforms (external sites) so I can work basically with anything/everything.
These are just a few of the drawbacks of but I am sure there are more.
Ballmer is just a plain idiot - I am glad he isn't my boss.
I am so sick of their attitude - like they are the only pc os in the world and we are suppose to be waiting on their predictions and where their company is going - maybe their stockholders are but I am not a microsoft stockholder and I hope I live to see the day they go down.
I could care less what Ballmer thinks - he has no effect on my computing environment from day to day. I don't even touch a windows pc and I am in front of a computer all day.
think either is better - but my personal choice is firefox because it renders web pages beautifully and is very fast. It is also free - which helps. But I contributed to the mozilla org foundation so I guess it isn't free in my case - but I would still choose it because the way it renders web pages.
I do like opera but why would I want to pay for something when there is something free and better (in my opinion) available. Kind of like why would I pay for windows when I can get Linux.
are you serius - you have notin better to say are do but corect peoples' english on slashdot
get an life