The best of intentions came from the people who decided it was a good idea to vote this into law. Federal law enforcement didn't do the voting, but those that did believed fully that this was essential to their (or their constituants') continued safety. Those people had good intentions, even if they turn out to be misguided.
yes... since the bomb would be used... as is... with no modifications to suit this particular use and it's related hazards.
I think we still use airplanes with 12 wings and fan-belt driven hand-started propellors to fly 300+ people across the atlantic too!
Do we also use pots of acid as telephones?
Are batteries still massive pillars weighing many pounds?
Do lightbulbs still last only a few hours?
I'm pretty sure I also used the phrase "if this was determined to be effective". And just for the record "effecive" was used to mean "stops/slows the storm without giving everyone on the planet cancer".
Assuming it was determined to be effective, I think this would be a pretty good peaceful use for them... What's your objection to saving lives with this technology?
...we show that a program with the best of intentions gave too much power to one tenticle of government, and now it's being abused. I'm not sure how many times we need to figure this one out before we stop gravitating to one part of gov't, giving it tons of control, ending up in a one-sided system, and then complaining about it (rinse, repeat)...
That's exactly what he said. With the addition that if these organizations are getting federal/state/local funding (as is the case in many private schools) these organizations must abide by the same principles (e.g. not infringing on rights such as freedom of speech).
The whole idea is that by accepting money, they become a tenticle of the government and must live up to those standards.
So we should also take away Google's library of information and give it to the UN. In fact, I think it's only fair that any directory involving infrastructure in multiple countries should be UN-run.
Get your head out of your ass. The root list that the US maintains (as you put it) is the property of the US, and by extension, property of the citizens of the US. This list constitutes alot of work, information, and as a result, power. I can't think of a single reason we have for wanting to give it away.
I dare you to walk into the YellowPages office and suggest that they donate their database of clients, addresses, and phone-numbers to some independant consortium made up of representatives of the various companies that are listed within. They will laugh at you. They make alot of money off of this valuble asset, and building it from the ground up is a huge barrier to entry into the market.
Once again... my translation of the UN argument: "Gimme Gimme Gimme! I want one!!" The appropriate US response: "Fuck you. Go sit in the corner."
Ohhh... you're talking about when he lowered the amount of taxes they were paying for 1-2%? So you mean the wealtiest 2-5% are still paying nearly half of the total? Still not the way it should be... but no I wasn't bitching. I was cheering for a tiny little victory.
I just can't get over your stupidity. They have more money than you. They're paying orders of magnitude more taxes than you (assuming you're from the US). The highest tax-bracket is paying a higher percentage of their income in taxes than you are. You're enjoying the benifits of their money. The gov't gives them a tax break, which in the grand scheme of things is a very VERY small consolation and is still a higher % of their income than you would be paying, and you get pissed off because...... why? Because they only pay 10 times your current yearly salary in taxes a year? I just really don't understand where your anger comes from.
Want to make sure these things aren't underfunded? Maybe try to increase your OWN income. Then you could start giving a greater percentage of everything YOU earn to the government and pay for the people who aren't making as much to goto school, have fire protection, for homeless people to surf the web in the library, and for gov't scientists to measure the viscosity of ketchup. THEN I would understand the anger...
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exactly... that's where the burning sensation comes from.
No. Taxes are a way of providing things for people who can't afford them, while getting the wealthier members of society to foot the bill. This constitutes a very small percent of the population personally funding something that is being used by all of the population. The result is that nobody gets decent service because it's grossely underfunded.
It also has the byproduct of ripping off the wealthier members of society by taking WAY more than it gives back.
I can understand why the police-force needs to be state-run. Every person can't hire themselves an agent that sits by their door with the power to incarcerate intruders and such. But fire protection, with proper regulation and over-sight, could be quite effective in the private sector. Hell... I think something like school-vouchers (but for fire) would be damn cool.
Want to take your chances? Fair enough. Here's your voucher good for one year's worth of fire-protection from any of these state approved companies. Done deal. Next time disaster striked Bay Area Fire and Rescue Co shows up. And because they'll have a smaller clientelle, the response-time should be shorter.:D
I've felt this way about Fire protection for a long time... Sure you would FEEL like an ass-monger forcing people to pay in exchange for showing up to douse their homes with water but it just seems like a private company could do this better for the people who are paying. I'm thinking a month/annual subscription would be nice.
I'm sure the less-priviledged would be hurt because they can't afford to protect their assets and families... but then again... I'm hurt because I can't afford a 500 teraflop supercomputer. gimme! gimme!
No. I don't need scores of people citing various reasons why this is unconstitutional or a bad idea. I don't care. It's my idea and I like it.:D
That 'smut' dosen't WANT to be filtered out. There are millions of non-businesses using the.com TLD because that's the one that is notable. If it was on.xxx you can put a large bet on it being porn, but there would be no less porn on.com because it's dot-com. Also because people would depend on porn being.xxx making it easier to 'pop-up' un-announced.
Honestly... can you see a line of porn-sites lining up to be filtered out of 90% of computer screens?
How many businesss's use.biz other than as a compliment to their.com?
All.xxx will do is make it easier to find porn, and give funny people a whole slew of word-play domain names to play with. www.than.xxx www.ha.xxx www.getthefa.xxx the list goes on i'm sure. How many days before there is a www.goatse.xxx ?
"Untill you can provide me with solid, incontrovertable evidence (and maybe even AFTER you do so) I'll just continue pretend that the sky is falling. It helps me to justify my elitest attitude."
And if you check with any interior decorator, current florecent bulbs do exactly that. Yet we still use them... they attract fewer bugs for the same reason that the guy (parent or gp... not sure) stated... and most people will tell you that floro bulbs produce a cleaner looking white light than an incandescent.
I'm not arguing with you... the color is crap. But it's a light that appears to be white, despite not falling under a perfect scientific definition of 'white light'.
This whole concept hinges on the idea that cows WANT to be milked. I know that I wouldn't be thrilled about having a cold machine grabbing my nipples and draining me by force...
I predict that this will either be abandoned or the price of milk will skyrocket as cows figure out that they no longer have to subject themselves to mechanical tit-rape.:D
You know... I'd be willing to make a wager that one of the main reasons Blue-Ray is getting it's support, is because it's got a cool name.
HD-DVD doesn't sound like anything new. Personally, every time i hear the term, I get an image of a matte black player with shiny gold accents (think early 90's CD players).
Everyone knows that if it's got a blue light on it, then it goes faster anyway!
It boils down to control. If you weren't in control of this vast world-wide communications network... wouldn't you want to be?
I say if they want their own DNS then they should start their own. Maybe one day when it's more popular/used than ours we'll beg to switch over and use theirs. In the meantime, they're welcome to play on our court, but at the end of the day the basketball is still ours.
My personal translation of the arguments I hear from the UN: "gimme gimme gimme!" Translation of the ideal US rebuttal: "fuck you. go stand in the corner"
exactly! this is why linux is SOOOO far ahead of Windows and OSX in terms of the number of installations. I mean haven't you ever wondered why Gimp is used waaaay more than Photoshop? Or why MirandaIM is installed on more computers than AIM? Or why OpenOffice/Abiword/etc are the industry standards and MS Office is only used by geeks who like staying up late at night tinkering with whatever distro of windows they have installed (media center, server, datacenter... why do we need 7?!?!). If these companies would lose their dinosauric business models and just GIVE away their software for free use and redistribution, they would REALLY start making money.
Open source only has support while it's new and exciting. Once it's lose it's zip-flash-bang it's just another one of the free programs out there. Unless it's found a way to make itself seriously useful or integrated, then it fades away. Either way the interfaces generally suck, so people don't use them unless they really WANT to use them in the first place (nobody chooses to figure out apache if they don't have a specific need for it or just have a geek's need to learn it). FOSS has it's place, but it will forever be second or third fiddle.
Either way, if FOSS makes something totally new, GPL or not, it'll find it's way onto the proprietary packages. It's open source after-all.
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The best of intentions came from the people who decided it was a good idea to vote this into law. Federal law enforcement didn't do the voting, but those that did believed fully that this was essential to their (or their constituants') continued safety. Those people had good intentions, even if they turn out to be misguided.
yes... since the bomb would be used... as is... with no modifications to suit this particular use and it's related hazards.
I think we still use airplanes with 12 wings and fan-belt driven hand-started propellors to fly 300+ people across the atlantic too!
Do we also use pots of acid as telephones?
Are batteries still massive pillars weighing many pounds?
Do lightbulbs still last only a few hours?
I'm pretty sure I also used the phrase "if this was determined to be effective". And just for the record "effecive" was used to mean "stops/slows the storm without giving everyone on the planet cancer".
A comment this stupid can ONLY be attributed to higher education.
Assuming it was determined to be effective, I think this would be a pretty good peaceful use for them... What's your objection to saving lives with this technology?
...we show that a program with the best of intentions gave too much power to one tenticle of government, and now it's being abused. I'm not sure how many times we need to figure this one out before we stop gravitating to one part of gov't, giving it tons of control, ending up in a one-sided system, and then complaining about it (rinse, repeat)...
That's exactly what he said. With the addition that if these organizations are getting federal/state/local funding (as is the case in many private schools) these organizations must abide by the same principles (e.g. not infringing on rights such as freedom of speech).
The whole idea is that by accepting money, they become a tenticle of the government and must live up to those standards.
So we should also take away Google's library of information and give it to the UN. In fact, I think it's only fair that any directory involving infrastructure in multiple countries should be UN-run.
Get your head out of your ass. The root list that the US maintains (as you put it) is the property of the US, and by extension, property of the citizens of the US. This list constitutes alot of work, information, and as a result, power. I can't think of a single reason we have for wanting to give it away.
I dare you to walk into the YellowPages office and suggest that they donate their database of clients, addresses, and phone-numbers to some independant consortium made up of representatives of the various companies that are listed within. They will laugh at you. They make alot of money off of this valuble asset, and building it from the ground up is a huge barrier to entry into the market.
Once again... my translation of the UN argument: "Gimme Gimme Gimme! I want one!!"
The appropriate US response: "Fuck you. Go sit in the corner."
Ohhh... you're talking about when he lowered the amount of taxes they were paying for 1-2%? So you mean the wealtiest 2-5% are still paying nearly half of the total? Still not the way it should be... but no I wasn't bitching. I was cheering for a tiny little victory.
I just can't get over your stupidity. They have more money than you. They're paying orders of magnitude more taxes than you (assuming you're from the US). The highest tax-bracket is paying a higher percentage of their income in taxes than you are. You're enjoying the benifits of their money. The gov't gives them a tax break, which in the grand scheme of things is a very VERY small consolation and is still a higher % of their income than you would be paying, and you get pissed off because...... why? Because they only pay 10 times your current yearly salary in taxes a year? I just really don't understand where your anger comes from.
Want to make sure these things aren't underfunded? Maybe try to increase your OWN income. Then you could start giving a greater percentage of everything YOU earn to the government and pay for the people who aren't making as much to goto school, have fire protection, for homeless people to surf the web in the library, and for gov't scientists to measure the viscosity of ketchup. THEN I would understand the anger...
exactly... that's where the burning sensation comes from.
No. Taxes are a way of providing things for people who can't afford them, while getting the wealthier members of society to foot the bill. This constitutes a very small percent of the population personally funding something that is being used by all of the population. The result is that nobody gets decent service because it's grossely underfunded.
:D
It also has the byproduct of ripping off the wealthier members of society by taking WAY more than it gives back.
I can understand why the police-force needs to be state-run. Every person can't hire themselves an agent that sits by their door with the power to incarcerate intruders and such. But fire protection, with proper regulation and over-sight, could be quite effective in the private sector. Hell... I think something like school-vouchers (but for fire) would be damn cool.
Want to take your chances? Fair enough. Here's your voucher good for one year's worth of fire-protection from any of these state approved companies. Done deal. Next time disaster striked Bay Area Fire and Rescue Co shows up. And because they'll have a smaller clientelle, the response-time should be shorter.
we're definatly going to die from Grey Goose.... mmm... delicious clear liquid...
I've felt this way about Fire protection for a long time... Sure you would FEEL like an ass-monger forcing people to pay in exchange for showing up to douse their homes with water but it just seems like a private company could do this better for the people who are paying. I'm thinking a month/annual subscription would be nice.
:D
I'm sure the less-priviledged would be hurt because they can't afford to protect their assets and families... but then again... I'm hurt because I can't afford a 500 teraflop supercomputer. gimme! gimme!
No. I don't need scores of people citing various reasons why this is unconstitutional or a bad idea. I don't care. It's my idea and I like it.
First get the plank out of your own eye...
.com TLD because that's the one that is notable. If it was on .xxx you can put a large bet on it being porn, but there would be no less porn on .com because it's dot-com. Also because people would depend on porn being .xxx making it easier to 'pop-up' un-announced.
.biz other than as a compliment to their .com?
.xxx will do is make it easier to find porn, and give funny people a whole slew of word-play domain names to play with. www.than.xxx www.ha.xxx www.getthefa.xxx the list goes on i'm sure. How many days before there is a www.goatse.xxx ?
That 'smut' dosen't WANT to be filtered out. There are millions of non-businesses using the
Honestly... can you see a line of porn-sites lining up to be filtered out of 90% of computer screens?
How many businesss's use
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"Untill you can provide me with solid, incontrovertable evidence (and maybe even AFTER you do so) I'll just continue pretend that the sky is falling. It helps me to justify my elitest attitude."
-- Average Baptist
And if you check with any interior decorator, current florecent bulbs do exactly that. Yet we still use them... they attract fewer bugs for the same reason that the guy (parent or gp... not sure) stated... and most people will tell you that floro bulbs produce a cleaner looking white light than an incandescent. I'm not arguing with you... the color is crap. But it's a light that appears to be white, despite not falling under a perfect scientific definition of 'white light'.
This whole concept hinges on the idea that cows WANT to be milked. I know that I wouldn't be thrilled about having a cold machine grabbing my nipples and draining me by force...
:D
I predict that this will either be abandoned or the price of milk will skyrocket as cows figure out that they no longer have to subject themselves to mechanical tit-rape.
If you percieve it as very close to white, then for the purpose of a lightbulb in a room.... it's white.
You don't need a PhD to get that.
You know... I'd be willing to make a wager that one of the main reasons Blue-Ray is getting it's support, is because it's got a cool name.
HD-DVD doesn't sound like anything new. Personally, every time i hear the term, I get an image of a matte black player with shiny gold accents (think early 90's CD players).
Everyone knows that if it's got a blue light on it, then it goes faster anyway!
When I first saw this I was all like "quake in awe of mighty linux!!"
http://www.utnow.com/
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
That is NEVER not funny!
waaaater sucks. it really really sucks. gatorade is better.
It boils down to control. If you weren't in control of this vast world-wide communications network... wouldn't you want to be?
I say if they want their own DNS then they should start their own. Maybe one day when it's more popular/used than ours we'll beg to switch over and use theirs. In the meantime, they're welcome to play on our court, but at the end of the day the basketball is still ours.
My personal translation of the arguments I hear from the UN: "gimme gimme gimme!"
Translation of the ideal US rebuttal: "fuck you. go stand in the corner"
linux users?
it probably goes into the soil... it should be noted that nitrogren in soil is a good thing.
exactly! this is why linux is SOOOO far ahead of Windows and OSX in terms of the number of installations. I mean haven't you ever wondered why Gimp is used waaaay more than Photoshop? Or why MirandaIM is installed on more computers than AIM? Or why OpenOffice/Abiword/etc are the industry standards and MS Office is only used by geeks who like staying up late at night tinkering with whatever distro of windows they have installed (media center, server, datacenter... why do we need 7?!?!). If these companies would lose their dinosauric business models and just GIVE away their software for free use and redistribution, they would REALLY start making money.
Open source only has support while it's new and exciting. Once it's lose it's zip-flash-bang it's just another one of the free programs out there. Unless it's found a way to make itself seriously useful or integrated, then it fades away. Either way the interfaces generally suck, so people don't use them unless they really WANT to use them in the first place (nobody chooses to figure out apache if they don't have a specific need for it or just have a geek's need to learn it). FOSS has it's place, but it will forever be second or third fiddle.
Either way, if FOSS makes something totally new, GPL or not, it'll find it's way onto the proprietary packages. It's open source after-all.