The mere fact that MS feels the need to include anti-spyware software is because they FIXED NOTHING. It's NT 6, XP repackaged with a snazzy GUI. Rather than find some way to prevent worms, virii, and other malware from getting in, they will be providing 'tools' to fix the OS on an ongoing basis? Sounds like MS users will still be spending countless hours scanning, fixing, restarting...
How about a frequency analysis on those problems? XP 10 trillion, Linux, a few million. Using Kubuntu on one of my machines, I have the occasional problem with runaway processes (particularly Kaffiene - exits poorly and hogs 100% CPU until I manually kill the process) but with XP I am always fixing this or that, wondering if the next update will toast my box, whether clicking on the wrong hyperlink will cause me hours of work. I won't say linux runs flawlessly but it does run a lot better. Better architecture, more modular. Oh and those runaway processes do not bring down the whole OS and force a reboot.
Did you mean people who smoke pot all the time? How about just those who've admitted it? There are lots of famous people who have used it...not all are rocket scientists but a few were:-). Personally I have found no correlation between cannabis use and intelligence... People who are stupid straight are invariably stupid stoned...drunk...asleep...upright...
The brain cells that supposedly are stimulated are not those that increase intelligence but those associated with depression. Interesting research... Did Bob Marley have a tumor in his hippocampus?
I don't know which 'they' you are referring to. US research has been held back by the war on some drugs. The rest of the world (and some parts of the USA) are doing more and more research.
On July 21, 2004, MAPS, Prof. Craker and Valerie Corral filed lawsuits against DEA and also against HHS/NIH/NIDA for obstructing medical marijuana research, and on July 29, 2004, MAPS filed a motion to consolidate the lawsuit against the DEA and the lawsuit against HHS, NIH and NIDA.http://www.maps.org/mmj/vaporizer.html
"I think they suspected that it interfered with left and right brain communication."
Do you have a reference?
Maybe in drug warriors. One side of their brain keeps saying "the law is the law and my job depends upon hating drugs and those associated with them" and the other side says "I love my children....even if they use drugs." at which point both sides say "Time for a beer.."
Well let's start with Fried et. al. [www.cmaj.ca], who concluded that ongoing heavy use of marijuana has a signficant negative impact on IQ.
(I think I can afford a few IQ points, better a little dimmer and a lot happier than a little brighter but a lot more misrable...)
And then we can in fact see the short term memory impairment, Heyser, C.J.; Hampson, R.E.; and Deadwyler, S.A. Effects of delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol on delayed match to sample performance in rats: Alterations in short-term memory associated with changes in task-specific firing of hippocampal cells. Journal of Pharmacology & Experimental Therapeutics 264(1):294-307, 1993.
(The research is not conclusive. We are not rats.)
And let's not pretend that smoking marijuana isn't going to have a negative effects on the lungs, Tashkin, D.P. Pulmonary complications of smoked substance abuse. West J Med 152:525-530, 1990., and Sarafian, T.A.; Magallanes, J.A.; Shau, H.; Tashkin, D.; and Roth, M.D. Oxidative stress produced by marijuana smoke. An adverse effect enhanced by cannabinoids. Am J Respir Cell Mol Biol 20(6):1286-1293, 1999.
(controlled vaporization reduces the carcinegens to nil. Smoking is bad for you, no question about that, no matter what you smoke.)
Or the immune system Srivastava, M.D.; Srivastava, B.I.; and Brouhard, B. Delta-9 tetrahydrocannabinol and cannabidiol alter cytokine production by human immune cells. Immunopharmacology 40(3):179-185, 1998.
(The research is also not conclusive. Also just about all research sponsored by the USA federal government has to be bent toward proving cannabis harmful. SO just about any research from the USA is politically tainted by its ideological war...pawn that you are you parrot it.
Marijuana capable of producing psychotic symptoms? Yes. Fergusson, David M., John Horwood & Elizabeth M. Ridder, "Tests of Causal Linkages Between Cannabis Use and Psychotic Symptoms," Addiction, Vol. 100, No. 3, March 2005, p. 363.
(In already vulnerable persons. The threshold for 'psychosis' is very low... Evangelicals are a more psychotic sometimes...)
The original poster was talking about chronic use, implying ongoing, so let's also examine the effects of current intoxication: Learning and memory are in fact impaired by cannabis: Grant, Igor, et al.,(2003) "Non-Acute (Residual) Neurocognitive Effects Of Cannabis Use: A Meta-Analytic Study," Journal of the International Neuropsychological Society. Cambridge University Press, 9, p. 685.
Long term permanent damage? Absolutely, but only to the lungs.
(I support legalising cannabis and even I wouldnt make that sweeping generalization. It is likely you are correct however.)
Negative impacts on the brain during ongoing use? Absolutely.
(Define negative impact? Obviously millions feel its acceptable.)
Maybe you ought to be familiar with the research yourself before attacking other people? This is just a tiny fraction of all the research conducted. A simple 5 second google search would have turned up all you needed to know to not look like the jackass you do now.
(Maybe if the state arbitrarily named you a criminal for burning some plant matter, you would be defensive when people parrot the drug war lies?)
Repugnicans do not tax, they punish. This bill gets to punish and tax something that will not change. Win-win for an authoritarian police state. Lots of money and ways to screw the people out of money and/or liberty.
The parents will still be the final arbiter of what games their kids play in the home.
Doesn't anyone find it ironic that a man who made his fame and fortune on depicting blood and death should be signing this bill?
"Repeat after me: Correlation does not imply causation."
Repeat after me...correlation ONLY IMPLIES causation, it does not prove it.
The trouble is too many bandy correlations about as proof. I would like to stomp down and say "Correlation does not imply causation" but if you think about it, it is the implication that creates the irrational leap to a false conclusion.
We should make a movie called "P2P Madness". We can show how using P2P causes people to engage in all kinds of deviant behavior....and put it on bittorent!!!(/sarcasm)
The logic of this statement is grating on my nerves but I can't seem to identify the fallacy. Malicious users can reverse engineer the closed source, find vulnerabilities that the company does not and just exploit them. Closed source is safer iff you can't reverse engineer it, otherwise its just an extra step. So the conclusion is false.
Denying the Antecedent
Any argument of the following form is invalid:
If A then B
Not A Therefore, Not B
Your argument:
If source is open hackers can easily find exploits. Not open implies hackers cannot easily find exploits.
So that's why there are so many linux virii and worms...whether the assertion is true or not is not supported by your argument.
Is it so hard to believe that they might start extraditing file sharers to extort them into bankruptcy or spend time in an american gulag? Sattelite hobbyists? Other political dissenters? Anybody they don't like and put on a deck of cards???
I saw a show on discovery about ice core sample analysis. They plotted the average mean temperature which they cleverly derived from 1000s of core samples. They found that the earths average temperature fluctuated wildy up until about 10,000 (20..not sure I saw it a long time ago)years ago. Basically the climate has only been moderate for a brief span (all of human history) and now WE have whacked the balance out....the wild changes will begin again.....Katrina was just a foretaste...
Health tests my ass...more likely drug tests. Now it can wireless the data it senses to a handheld! They can have the cops waiting for you outside before you even know it...
What is it that makes people believe that barbarians who barely mastered fire could know better than us? What is it that causes people to ascribe divinity to ancient writings that were penned by men? It is a parable, not a literal story.
As a person shopping distros for a solid alternative...I agree!!!
I've tried recent versions of mandrake, gentoo, and suse..suse is looking like the winner so far but I am going to try Ubuntu next...I may leave MS 20 Gigs...for games that won't run with wine or cedega...maybe.
Are you kidding? It's like pulling teeth to convince some people that msn is NOT the internet. It is nigh on to impossible to get them to switch to a new home page most times...
3D acceration does not work with ATI in linux.
It took you three months to realize that ATi has poor linux support? Nvidia supplies an installer script that installs the Nvidia drivers with full 3d acceleration. Takes 2 minutes to install and I have made it work with Gentoo, Suse 9.2, mandrake 9.
I will not buy ATi simply because of that. For a linux desktop system one should not use ati for video....ati is MS's biatch.
Whaddaya mean? Windows is *already* crippled out of the box.
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That's funny. I could not burn a disc without errors using a lite-on 16x, gentoo and 2.6.10. The burner would NOT burn error free and DVDshrink would not run for crap. I played with it for a WEEK. The advice I kept getting was 'use 2.6.7 for burning'. (I don't want to) Now if nero can burn on my puter without errors I may have to switch back to gentoo. Since 90% of what I do is game and burn dvds, linux is not really suitable yet...will be if other software producers follow nero (and ID) and put out Linux ports of their stuff.
Your argument is fallacious. No matter how many joints I smoke, there is no danger to you. You speeding does present a clear danger to others however. There a many dead every year for speed related accidents but doobies kill nobody. Your comparing apples to watermelons.
"And there is my point... all the laws are there to either protect life, or to make money... if the government had a good way of making money off of Marijuna sales without the health issues and health costs associated with it, it would be legal."
That has NOTHING to do with why cannabis is still illegal. If it was about health then both alcohol and tobacco would be illegal as well. In the US there is a prison industry that needs lots of fresh meat thus prohibiting something MILLIONS of people do keeps a steady supply. Why, if pot were legal we would not have JP Walters touring around whipping up fear and hysteria. There would be -800,000 arrests per year that would free up the cops to chase REAL CRIME. Billions have been spent with the only results being more cops, more jails and way way more dope.
IF you believe that the laws are top protect life I suggest you take a better look. They exist to maintain elitist rule and protect the property of the wealthy. Public safety is just the nonsense the politicians mouth when it suits their (bought and paid for) agendas. One does not protect people by poisoning the environment.
Don't worry, if the survielance system works in Canada, it will make its way south...you just won't know about it because the text of the laws will likely be sealed by the (anti-)Patriot Act.
Dude...if I do a fresh install of windows XP it takes over 1.2 Gs.
From Microsoft:
Here's What You Need to Use Windows XP Professional
PC with 300 megahertz or higher processor clock speed recommended; 233 MHz minimum required (single or dual processor system);* Intel Pentium/Celeron family, or AMD K6/Athlon/Duron family, or compatible processor recommended
128 megabytes (MB) of RAM or higher recommended (64 MB minimum supported; may limit performance and some features)
1.5 gigabytes (GB) of available hard disk space*
* Actual requirements will vary based on your system configuration and the applications and features you choose to install. Additional available hard disk space may be required if you are installing over a network.
Super VGA (800 x 600) or higher-resolution video adapter and monitor
CD-ROM or DVD drive
Keyboard and Microsoft Mouse or compatible pointing device"
In many ways linux is better. It depends upon what you use your computer for. XP is my favoorite version of windows but its still crap that has caused me a lot of grief. Linux made me have to learn a bunch and since it can't do the job for my desktop yet, I am stuck with XP. I don't hate it(much), just recognise its weaknesses. Spyware/virus scans, need to use ghost backup images, defraging, restarting, registry repairing, hoping one is not compromised...Windows is easy, linux is stable.
One can only hope Longhorn is better.
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Oh you said violent crime. With an attorney general like that, is it any wonder crime is on the upswing? Everything is illegal!
Someone said "The only power the governments have is to punish" so they are expanding their power. Big surprise there.
http://www.canadiancrier.ca/emery/flyer.pdf
The mere fact that MS feels the need to include anti-spyware software is because they FIXED NOTHING. It's NT 6, XP repackaged with a snazzy GUI. Rather than find some way to prevent worms, virii, and other malware from getting in, they will be providing 'tools' to fix the OS on an ongoing basis? Sounds like MS users will still be spending countless hours scanning, fixing, restarting...
How about a frequency analysis on those problems? XP 10 trillion, Linux, a few million. Using Kubuntu on one of my machines, I have the occasional problem with runaway processes (particularly Kaffiene - exits poorly and hogs 100% CPU until I manually kill the process) but with XP I am always fixing this or that, wondering if the next update will toast my box, whether clicking on the wrong hyperlink will cause me hours of work. I won't say linux runs flawlessly but it does run a lot better. Better architecture, more modular. Oh and those runaway processes do not bring down the whole OS and force a reboot.
Did you mean people who smoke pot all the time? How about just those who've admitted it? There are lots of famous people who have used it...not all are rocket scientists but a few were :-). Personally I have found no correlation between cannabis use and intelligence... People who are stupid straight are invariably stupid stoned...drunk...asleep...upright...
The brain cells that supposedly are stimulated are not those that increase intelligence but those associated with depression. Interesting research... Did Bob Marley have a tumor in his hippocampus?
I don't know which 'they' you are referring to. US research has been held back by the war on some drugs. The rest of the world (and some parts of the USA) are doing more and more research.
On July 21, 2004, MAPS, Prof. Craker and Valerie Corral filed lawsuits against DEA and also against HHS/NIH/NIDA for obstructing medical marijuana research, and on July 29, 2004, MAPS filed a motion to consolidate the lawsuit against the DEA and the lawsuit against HHS, NIH and NIDA. http://www.maps.org/mmj/vaporizer.html
"I think they suspected that it interfered with left and right brain communication."
Do you have a reference? Maybe in drug warriors. One side of their brain keeps saying "the law is the law and my job depends upon hating drugs and those associated with them" and the other side says "I love my children....even if they use drugs." at which point both sides say "Time for a beer.."
Well let's start with Fried et. al. [www.cmaj.ca], who concluded that ongoing heavy use of marijuana has a signficant negative impact on IQ.
(I think I can afford a few IQ points, better a little dimmer and a lot happier than a little brighter but a lot more misrable...)
And then we can in fact see the short term memory impairment,
Heyser, C.J.; Hampson, R.E.; and Deadwyler, S.A. Effects of delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol on delayed match to sample performance in rats: Alterations in short-term memory associated with changes in task-specific firing of hippocampal cells. Journal of Pharmacology & Experimental Therapeutics 264(1):294-307, 1993.
(The research is not conclusive. We are not rats.)
And let's not pretend that smoking marijuana isn't going to have a negative effects on the lungs,
Tashkin, D.P. Pulmonary complications of smoked substance abuse. West J Med 152:525-530, 1990., and
Sarafian, T.A.; Magallanes, J.A.; Shau, H.; Tashkin, D.; and Roth, M.D. Oxidative stress produced by marijuana smoke. An adverse effect enhanced by cannabinoids. Am J Respir Cell Mol Biol 20(6):1286-1293, 1999.
(controlled vaporization reduces the carcinegens to nil. Smoking is bad for you, no question about that, no matter what you smoke.)
Or the immune system
Srivastava, M.D.; Srivastava, B.I.; and Brouhard, B. Delta-9 tetrahydrocannabinol and cannabidiol alter cytokine production by human immune cells. Immunopharmacology 40(3):179-185, 1998.
(The research is also not conclusive. Also just about all research sponsored by the USA federal government has to be bent toward proving cannabis harmful. SO just about any research from the USA is politically tainted by its ideological war...pawn that you are you parrot it.
Marijuana capable of producing psychotic symptoms? Yes.
Fergusson, David M., John Horwood & Elizabeth M. Ridder, "Tests of Causal Linkages Between Cannabis Use and Psychotic Symptoms," Addiction, Vol. 100, No. 3, March 2005, p. 363.
(In already vulnerable persons. The threshold for 'psychosis' is very low... Evangelicals are a more psychotic sometimes...)
The original poster was talking about chronic use, implying ongoing, so let's also examine the effects of current intoxication: Learning and memory are in fact impaired by cannabis:
Grant, Igor, et al.,(2003) "Non-Acute (Residual) Neurocognitive Effects Of Cannabis Use: A Meta-Analytic Study," Journal of the International Neuropsychological Society. Cambridge University Press, 9, p. 685.
Long term permanent damage? Absolutely, but only to the lungs.
(I support legalising cannabis and even I wouldnt make that sweeping generalization. It is likely you are correct however.)
Negative impacts on the brain during ongoing use? Absolutely.
(Define negative impact? Obviously millions feel its acceptable.)
Maybe you ought to be familiar with the research yourself before attacking other people? This is just a tiny fraction of all the research conducted. A simple 5 second google search would have turned up all you needed to know to not look like the jackass you do now.
(Maybe if the state arbitrarily named you a criminal for burning some plant matter, you would be defensive when people parrot the drug war lies?)
Violations carry a fine of up to $1,000.
Repugnicans do not tax, they punish. This bill gets to punish and tax something that will not change. Win-win for an authoritarian police state. Lots of money and ways to screw the people out of money and/or liberty.
The parents will still be the final arbiter of what games their kids play in the home.
Doesn't anyone find it ironic that a man who made his fame and fortune on depicting blood and death should be signing this bill?
Repeat after me...correlation ONLY IMPLIES causation, it does not prove it.
The trouble is too many bandy correlations about as proof. I would like to stomp down and say "Correlation does not imply causation" but if you think about it, it is the implication that creates the irrational leap to a false conclusion.
We should make a movie called "P2P Madness". We can show how using P2P causes people to engage in all kinds of deviant behavior....and put it on bittorent!!!(/sarcasm)
The logic of this statement is grating on my nerves but I can't seem to identify the fallacy. Malicious users can reverse engineer the closed source, find vulnerabilities that the company does not and just exploit them. Closed source is safer iff you can't reverse engineer it, otherwise its just an extra step. So the conclusion is false.
Denying the Antecedent
Any argument of the following form is invalid:
If A then B
Not A Therefore, Not B
Your argument:
If source is open hackers can easily find exploits. Not open implies hackers cannot easily find exploits.
So that's why there are so many linux virii and worms...whether the assertion is true or not is not supported by your argument.
The USA is trying to enforce its drug laws in Canada.
http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n1519/a12.html? 397
Is it so hard to believe that they might start extraditing file sharers to extort them into bankruptcy or spend time in an american gulag? Sattelite hobbyists? Other political dissenters? Anybody they don't like and put on a deck of cards???
I saw a show on discovery about ice core sample analysis. They plotted the average mean temperature which they cleverly derived from 1000s of core samples. They found that the earths average temperature fluctuated wildy up until about 10,000 (20..not sure I saw it a long time ago)years ago. Basically the climate has only been moderate for a brief span (all of human history) and now WE have whacked the balance out....the wild changes will begin again.....Katrina was just a foretaste...
First they ignored you, then they worked you in a state commune, then they rounded you up and shot you to make Stalins quotas.
Health tests my ass...more likely drug tests. Now it can wireless the data it senses to a handheld! They can have the cops waiting for you outside before you even know it...
Just following the leaders. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3661134.stm
What is it that makes people believe that barbarians who barely mastered fire could know better than us? What is it that causes people to ascribe divinity to ancient writings that were penned by men? It is a parable, not a literal story.
There are enough human-like sheep already...they're called 'voters'.
As a person shopping distros for a solid alternative...I agree!!!
I've tried recent versions of mandrake, gentoo, and suse..suse is looking like the winner so far but I am going to try Ubuntu next...I may leave MS 20 Gigs...for games that won't run with wine or cedega...maybe.
Are you kidding? It's like pulling teeth to convince some people that msn is NOT the internet. It is nigh on to impossible to get them to switch to a new home page most times...
3D acceration does not work with ATI in linux. It took you three months to realize that ATi has poor linux support? Nvidia supplies an installer script that installs the Nvidia drivers with full 3d acceleration. Takes 2 minutes to install and I have made it work with Gentoo, Suse 9.2, mandrake 9. I will not buy ATi simply because of that. For a linux desktop system one should not use ati for video....ati is MS's biatch.
Whaddaya mean? Windows is *already* crippled out of the box.
That's funny. I could not burn a disc without errors using a lite-on 16x, gentoo and 2.6.10. The burner would NOT burn error free and DVDshrink would not run for crap. I played with it for a WEEK. The advice I kept getting was 'use 2.6.7 for burning'. (I don't want to) Now if nero can burn on my puter without errors I may have to switch back to gentoo. Since 90% of what I do is game and burn dvds, linux is not really suitable yet...will be if other software producers follow nero (and ID) and put out Linux ports of their stuff.
"And there is my point... all the laws are there to either protect life, or to make money... if the government had a good way of making money off of Marijuna sales without the health issues and health costs associated with it, it would be legal."
That has NOTHING to do with why cannabis is still illegal. If it was about health then both alcohol and tobacco would be illegal as well. In the US there is a prison industry that needs lots of fresh meat thus prohibiting something MILLIONS of people do keeps a steady supply. Why, if pot were legal we would not have JP Walters touring around whipping up fear and hysteria. There would be -800,000 arrests per year that would free up the cops to chase REAL CRIME. Billions have been spent with the only results being more cops, more jails and way way more dope.
IF you believe that the laws are top protect life I suggest you take a better look. They exist to maintain elitist rule and protect the property of the wealthy. Public safety is just the nonsense the politicians mouth when it suits their (bought and paid for) agendas. One does not protect people by poisoning the environment.
Don't worry, if the survielance system works in Canada, it will make its way south...you just won't know about it because the text of the laws will likely be sealed by the (anti-)Patriot Act.