They don't want to sell their product to you, so that gives you the right to take it anyway? Find something else that does the job where the owner has given you permission to use it and give them your money to support them. Write your own app to do the same thing and fill the gap in the market yourself.
Just because an action does not cause harm or loss to someone does not necessarily mean that it is the right thing to do.
Very late on my reply. Anyway, my point wasn't that it was pointless to make something higher quality. The post I replied to stated that people don't want higher quality stuff since it costs more, so only lower quality products get made, and when higher quality products get made such as older Apple stuff it frequently is not hugely successful because of that.
My point was that if the extra quality does not actually provide a benefit to people, then they aren't going to pay more for it. There's a point where "better" in a purely technical or academic sense is not necessarily any better in a real world usage scenario for the majority of people.
I don't see anywhere that I suggested that the people who can find a use for the higher quality thing are stupid or that people shouldn't attempt to make something higher quality. I just pointed out that there's sometimes a very valid reason why people are not willing to pay more for the higher quality product beyond just being cheap and unwilling to pay more than they absolutely have to.
Yes, having tests and driver's licenses has put an end to excessive speeding, cutting people off, tailgating, last minute lane changes, and other dangerous driving behavior because people are now educated in the dangers of doing so.
Wait... no. People still do stupid shit. Not because they don't know better, but because they don't give a shit.
An internet license or whatever would be the same. People already know what to do or not do. They are told all the time. They are told every fucking day at work. They are told by friends or relatives who who have a brain. A small percentage may have these troubles because no one has taken the time to educate them, but for the vast majority that I have had to deal with it's not that people don't know better, it's that they're lazy and don't fucking care.
The quality also needs to be useful or it's not worth paying extra for. Time for a car analogy. My motor needs rebuilt in my car right now (really, it does). I could rebuild the bottom end with parts that will handle 1500+ HP. My car isn't going to ever be 1500+ HP, though, it's a nearly daily driven Mustang. I can rebuilt it with parts that will hold at 1000HP for less money and even that's overkill for what this car will ever be. Why would I pay more for the strength and quality to handle 1500HP? Sure, it's "better", but I won't use it and don't need it.
Amateur. You forgot about adjusting the spacing between characters and downloading new fonts where at the approved 12pt (usually the largest we were allowed) was the same as a 15pt in a standard font like Arial.
That was my first thought when I read this, too. I immediately went and double checked to make sure I was remembering right. I need to become a researcher. That job sounds way easier than mine.
Oh, yeah, Hull St. gets scary in that section. I actually had an interview just a couple blocks from there and wrote down the address wrong (missed a 0). The address I was at was just a couple blocks down the road and was a funeral home surrounded by an abandoned church and apartment building. I couldn't dial my recruiter to find out where I had gone wrong fast enough. If you continue on south to the other side of 288 it gets pretty nice again.
If you follow 95 or 301 south down to petersburg there is are a bunch more run down, nearly abandoned areas.
Yeah, I see what you're saying there. On the one hand, this is far above and beyond what most kids have done by that age. That's definitely something to be praised and recognized. At the same time, I've taken the top level networking and programming classes at one of the local community colleges. The stuff being taught in those classes is no more difficult than what myself and friends (both friends at the time current friends I didn't have then) were doing with networking and programming by the time we were 12-14 (so a couple years older than this kid, to be fair, in the early to mid 90s) with all of us being completely self taught. I have to assume community college physics classes are pretty similar difficulty.
What the gp is quoting is pretty normal, if not on the somewhat inexpensive side. I'm in Virginia and just switched from Verizon DSL to Comcast cable. With Verizon I was paying $38/month for 1.5Mb/768Kb (which was really only ever connecting at 400Kb outbound according to the dsl modem) with no tranfser cap I know of, although I'm sure there is one. With comcast it's nearly impossible to find a straight answer on a price but I believe once my $20/month trial is up I will be paying $60/month for 12Mb/6Mb with "powerboost" which doubles the available throughput for the first 10MB with a 250GB transfer cap.
I believe Verizon FiOS (their fiber to the curb product, in case you're not familiar, not being in the US and all) is somewhat better priced, but still not in line with what you are paying.
I dunno, I guess I don't get as upset over these things. Games progress with the times, sometimes for the better, sometimes not. Zork Nemesis was even good in that "good game, but not at all zork-like" way.
I had a teacher in middle school who taught properly. He always told the class the only thing he teaches you is how to teach yourself. His class was a bunch of projects of which you picked 3 or 4 to do each with instructions on how to do it and what the end result should be. It was up to you to read the instructions, follow them, and determine if your end result matched what the instructions said. If you asked him if it was done, he'd just ask you if it did what the instructions say it should. Easily my favorite class I ever took. Tons of freedom, fun projects, and no mindless memorization (which I've never been good with).
It also sounds like an incredibly easy class to me, and I felt it was. If you follow the steps and your project does what it says, you get a good grade. Most students hated that class and teacher, though. They found it too difficult without someone telling them what they had done wrong and when it was done, instead making them figure it out.
Or even writing apps they might be able to make some money off of such as various mobile phone apps which are still reasonably done by a single person, some sort of web service, etc. Something that could get the attention of a potential employer and myabe bring in a little bit of much needed income if they're good and/or lucky.
Ah, yes, I remember getting my NES Advantage. That made life so much easier and less painful. Man, I love that controller. I've still got it, actually, and last I used it a few years back it and the NES were still working great.
No, it's a cat. I've got 3. Sure, if you don't want them all over your keyboard and mouse, they're bound to leap on it at some point. As soon as you want them to, though? Forget it unless you trick them into it.
Either that or you still actively caused the cat to click it, therefore you did it. Just like if you held a basketball over your mouse and dropped it to cause the click. The ball didn't agree to the EULA, invalidating it, you agreed to it and just clicked the mouse button in a convoluted way.
Just because you didn't click the link/button in the traditional, hand on mouse, one finger on the button does not mean you did not agree to the EULA.
The cartoon GI Joe is what is remembered by most people in the age bracket they are targetting. We grew up watching that cartoon. Plus, a movie and/or video game about the older GI Joe would just be "Generic War Movie". It might be good, but as far as I know, there's nothing that really makes it GI Joe since there were only a few characters and all pretty generic.
Ahh, funny school OSS stories. I had a network security teacher (using very loose definitions of security and teacher) explain to the class the most OSS is just small scripts of a few hundred lines at most.
Really, though, it's not so much that there needs to be an OSS education, but a tech education in general or at least making sure people know what they are talking about. That same teacher said to block icmp pings at the firewall by blocking the tcp echo port. I also had one college textbook that said most interpreted languages don't have much functionality built in, but do most heavy work by running local binaries (like a shell scripting language) and then gave the examples of PHP, Perl, and JavaScript.
I'm currently taking an entry level vb course because it's required to get my little piece of paper. I'm a full time Perl developer and have been for years (along with hobby experience in other languages). The teacher knows this. He seemed pretty blown away that while having never written vb.net before I could take concepts from my other experience to figure out that I could loop over the controls in a windows form and clear the text from all 10+ textboxes (out of about 20 elements on the form) in the loop rather than type out TextBox1.clear(), TextBox2.clear() etc. for every one.
Our tech education in general is just horribly fucked, imo.
My wife didn't ever get us tickets to a Weird Al concert, but she did go with me when I got tickets. If nothing else, she has a greater appreciation for just how cool I am... or at least how much weirder and nerdier I could be.
I am not sure why a Gaming Mouse has to be Butt Ugly. It is like the Ax Body spry for mice. Anyone under the age of 16 will think it looks so cool, however anyone over that age wouldn't be caught dead with it, unless it is hidden in a dark basement.
As I re-read that, after previewing and accepting it even, I want to clarify my above post before the pedantic folks around here tear it apart for not being 100% dead on accurate. I meant "newer" versions of Windows.
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They don't want to sell their product to you, so that gives you the right to take it anyway? Find something else that does the job where the owner has given you permission to use it and give them your money to support them. Write your own app to do the same thing and fill the gap in the market yourself. Just because an action does not cause harm or loss to someone does not necessarily mean that it is the right thing to do.
Very late on my reply. Anyway, my point wasn't that it was pointless to make something higher quality. The post I replied to stated that people don't want higher quality stuff since it costs more, so only lower quality products get made, and when higher quality products get made such as older Apple stuff it frequently is not hugely successful because of that.
My point was that if the extra quality does not actually provide a benefit to people, then they aren't going to pay more for it. There's a point where "better" in a purely technical or academic sense is not necessarily any better in a real world usage scenario for the majority of people.
I don't see anywhere that I suggested that the people who can find a use for the higher quality thing are stupid or that people shouldn't attempt to make something higher quality. I just pointed out that there's sometimes a very valid reason why people are not willing to pay more for the higher quality product beyond just being cheap and unwilling to pay more than they absolutely have to.
Yes, having tests and driver's licenses has put an end to excessive speeding, cutting people off, tailgating, last minute lane changes, and other dangerous driving behavior because people are now educated in the dangers of doing so.
Wait... no. People still do stupid shit. Not because they don't know better, but because they don't give a shit.
An internet license or whatever would be the same. People already know what to do or not do. They are told all the time. They are told every fucking day at work. They are told by friends or relatives who who have a brain. A small percentage may have these troubles because no one has taken the time to educate them, but for the vast majority that I have had to deal with it's not that people don't know better, it's that they're lazy and don't fucking care.
The quality also needs to be useful or it's not worth paying extra for. Time for a car analogy. My motor needs rebuilt in my car right now (really, it does). I could rebuild the bottom end with parts that will handle 1500+ HP. My car isn't going to ever be 1500+ HP, though, it's a nearly daily driven Mustang. I can rebuilt it with parts that will hold at 1000HP for less money and even that's overkill for what this car will ever be. Why would I pay more for the strength and quality to handle 1500HP? Sure, it's "better", but I won't use it and don't need it.
Amateur. You forgot about adjusting the spacing between characters and downloading new fonts where at the approved 12pt (usually the largest we were allowed) was the same as a 15pt in a standard font like Arial.
That was my first thought when I read this, too. I immediately went and double checked to make sure I was remembering right. I need to become a researcher. That job sounds way easier than mine.
Oh, yeah, Hull St. gets scary in that section. I actually had an interview just a couple blocks from there and wrote down the address wrong (missed a 0). The address I was at was just a couple blocks down the road and was a funeral home surrounded by an abandoned church and apartment building. I couldn't dial my recruiter to find out where I had gone wrong fast enough. If you continue on south to the other side of 288 it gets pretty nice again.
If you follow 95 or 301 south down to petersburg there is are a bunch more run down, nearly abandoned areas.
Yeah, I see what you're saying there. On the one hand, this is far above and beyond what most kids have done by that age. That's definitely something to be praised and recognized. At the same time, I've taken the top level networking and programming classes at one of the local community colleges. The stuff being taught in those classes is no more difficult than what myself and friends (both friends at the time current friends I didn't have then) were doing with networking and programming by the time we were 12-14 (so a couple years older than this kid, to be fair, in the early to mid 90s) with all of us being completely self taught. I have to assume community college physics classes are pretty similar difficulty.
5ive was also a boy band
Reminds me of some boy band several years back called 5ive. I worked at Best Buy back when they released an album and had to look at that every day.
What the gp is quoting is pretty normal, if not on the somewhat inexpensive side. I'm in Virginia and just switched from Verizon DSL to Comcast cable. With Verizon I was paying $38/month for 1.5Mb/768Kb (which was really only ever connecting at 400Kb outbound according to the dsl modem) with no tranfser cap I know of, although I'm sure there is one. With comcast it's nearly impossible to find a straight answer on a price but I believe once my $20/month trial is up I will be paying $60/month for 12Mb/6Mb with "powerboost" which doubles the available throughput for the first 10MB with a 250GB transfer cap.
I believe Verizon FiOS (their fiber to the curb product, in case you're not familiar, not being in the US and all) is somewhat better priced, but still not in line with what you are paying.
I dunno, I guess I don't get as upset over these things. Games progress with the times, sometimes for the better, sometimes not. Zork Nemesis was even good in that "good game, but not at all zork-like" way.
For someone getting so up in arms about Zork, you seem to be unaware of the last 15 years of Zork games that have been graphical adventures.
I've always thought "release early, release often" is a terrible idea.
My wife tells me the same thing.
I had a teacher in middle school who taught properly. He always told the class the only thing he teaches you is how to teach yourself. His class was a bunch of projects of which you picked 3 or 4 to do each with instructions on how to do it and what the end result should be. It was up to you to read the instructions, follow them, and determine if your end result matched what the instructions said. If you asked him if it was done, he'd just ask you if it did what the instructions say it should. Easily my favorite class I ever took. Tons of freedom, fun projects, and no mindless memorization (which I've never been good with).
It also sounds like an incredibly easy class to me, and I felt it was. If you follow the steps and your project does what it says, you get a good grade. Most students hated that class and teacher, though. They found it too difficult without someone telling them what they had done wrong and when it was done, instead making them figure it out.
Or even writing apps they might be able to make some money off of such as various mobile phone apps which are still reasonably done by a single person, some sort of web service, etc. Something that could get the attention of a potential employer and myabe bring in a little bit of much needed income if they're good and/or lucky.
Ah, yes, I remember getting my NES Advantage. That made life so much easier and less painful. Man, I love that controller. I've still got it, actually, and last I used it a few years back it and the NES were still working great.
yeah, it took several tries before I read it as wall-wart.
No, it's a cat. I've got 3. Sure, if you don't want them all over your keyboard and mouse, they're bound to leap on it at some point. As soon as you want them to, though? Forget it unless you trick them into it.
Either that or you still actively caused the cat to click it, therefore you did it. Just like if you held a basketball over your mouse and dropped it to cause the click. The ball didn't agree to the EULA, invalidating it, you agreed to it and just clicked the mouse button in a convoluted way.
Just because you didn't click the link/button in the traditional, hand on mouse, one finger on the button does not mean you did not agree to the EULA.
The cartoon GI Joe is what is remembered by most people in the age bracket they are targetting. We grew up watching that cartoon. Plus, a movie and/or video game about the older GI Joe would just be "Generic War Movie". It might be good, but as far as I know, there's nothing that really makes it GI Joe since there were only a few characters and all pretty generic.
Ahh, funny school OSS stories. I had a network security teacher (using very loose definitions of security and teacher) explain to the class the most OSS is just small scripts of a few hundred lines at most.
Really, though, it's not so much that there needs to be an OSS education, but a tech education in general or at least making sure people know what they are talking about. That same teacher said to block icmp pings at the firewall by blocking the tcp echo port. I also had one college textbook that said most interpreted languages don't have much functionality built in, but do most heavy work by running local binaries (like a shell scripting language) and then gave the examples of PHP, Perl, and JavaScript.
I'm currently taking an entry level vb course because it's required to get my little piece of paper. I'm a full time Perl developer and have been for years (along with hobby experience in other languages). The teacher knows this. He seemed pretty blown away that while having never written vb.net before I could take concepts from my other experience to figure out that I could loop over the controls in a windows form and clear the text from all 10+ textboxes (out of about 20 elements on the form) in the loop rather than type out TextBox1.clear(), TextBox2.clear() etc. for every one.
Our tech education in general is just horribly fucked, imo.
My wife didn't ever get us tickets to a Weird Al concert, but she did go with me when I got tickets. If nothing else, she has a greater appreciation for just how cool I am... or at least how much weirder and nerdier I could be.
I am not sure why a Gaming Mouse has to be Butt Ugly. It is like the Ax Body spry for mice. Anyone under the age of 16 will think it looks so cool, however anyone over that age wouldn't be caught dead with it, unless it is hidden in a dark basement.
So, how are these a problem for us slashdotters?
As I re-read that, after previewing and accepting it even, I want to clarify my above post before the pedantic folks around here tear it apart for not being 100% dead on accurate. I meant "newer" versions of Windows.