You can scale that up, and it runs on commodity hardware. Honestly, he's lucky that he got that setup to run so long... You could take a software package like what I just mentioned and put it on darn near anything that you want to run it on, older or newer. How many people in ANY field expect something like that to last 15 years?
...You're not playing devil's advocate here, I know, but I do just want to point out there's a big difference between saving THAT animal vs. attempting to re-create a copy of that animal.
If given a choice between paying $150k for cancer treatment for my dog, or paying $150k for a clone of that same dog, I'd choose paying for cancer treatment, even if the dog didn't recover from it.
If after all of that, I'd get another dog from a shelter. There are plenty of other good companions out there right now without me having to go and create a new life on this earth.
Heck, bull baiting, the practice of tying a bull to a post, then sicking attack dogs on it, was once mandatory in Great Britain. The reasoning behind the practice was that baited bull meat was considered to taste better.
Of course, this practice was banned, but it just goes to show you that there's nothing new under the sun.
Actually you are factually incorrect. As you can see in the summary and article itself it is referred to as, "Troj/Qhost-AC" by Sophos. That would seem to indicate that at some level it has been reviewed by a Anti-Virus company and I believe they would have tried pretty hard to determine the full capabilities of this Trojan. One could even say it is highly likely.
One "cool" thing about Windows, if you can say that, is there are tools and hooks in the OS to monitor EVERY transaction on the system, from registry edits to disk reads/writes. You are totally right here-- Sophos probably used a tool like this on a "clean" system, installed the trojan, then generated what amounts to a diff of the system using such monitoring tools. Not much can get past such a tool when you have reference systems like they do for malware studies.
I don't know if telecoms providers like this are subject to any type of laws about interfering with utilities, but I'm pretty sure even if you got the effect of decreasing uptime and causing them grief, you're probably going to wind up in some kind of serious legal trouble, and possibly be liable for the financial consequence of fixing those lines....
But how far did MkLinux get? I just checked that site, and it's still the same as it was nearly 8 years ago. Sure, the updated dates are the same, but they never did even come out with a 1.0 release.
Seems like maybe NeXT may have had a more stable platform than what Apple was working on in the form of MkLinux?
Don't underestimate how intensive running Excel can be. It's not uncommon at all to encounter 50+MB spreadsheets with formulas that recalculate on every refresh. That'll bring a quad core with 4GB of RAM down to a grinding halt...
(before I go further, let me state I'm not trying to troll... I just have a dissenting opinion from most)
What good does this do? Couldn't she have gone to the media, or some other alternative?
I can sympathize with her frustration, but doing something like this is about as effective as yelling at a lowly phone rep over an issue that isn't resolved in the call center. What did she think they were going to do? Not call the police?
The installation tech that came out did a bad job. Fine-- they should have sent someone out to fix her phones. She shouldn't have been ignored. I'm not stating that she has no right to be irritated. Why did she sit on a bench for two hours, rather than be persistent? (She said she was out there this long on an NPR interview).
The best way to get results from organizations like this is to REALLY be annoying, but don't cross the line of property destruction or vulgarity. Sure, it's satisfying to do something like this in the short term, but now this old lady has a criminal record, and she ultimately didn't get Comcast to fix her issue. Personally, I hope that she has to pay recompense for breaking the stuff, just like Comcast should be responsible for paying to fix her stuff. What did she really accomplish?
Imagine the outrage here if IE did the same thing? Smells like a double standard to me. IE is free on my Windows machine too, don't act like FF should be given more slack.
It's not a double standard. You paid for Windows, and IE was a component included in the price of Windows. Firefox, on the other hand, is something that you had to acquire yourself from a source that was freely offering it. Free != included in cost .
Try reporting a bug to Microsoft. How long will anything that's not a critical security fix take to get resolved? How long a period of time elapsed between the releases of IE 6 and IE 7? I'll bet the answer to both questions are pretty similar...
Consider that example yourself, for a moment. Your world hasn't changed until the news has arrived. Think of it another way: Is your neighbor alive right now? He could be. He probably is. He may not be. You really couldn't say that he is or isn't already dead. To put it another way: The odds of his survival are in his favor, but they become 1 in 1 when you find out the outcome.
But what if we're dealing with quantum neighbors? He is both dead and not dead until I go check out the situation. I don't know about you, but I don't want to be responsible for possibly killing the dude next door just because I got nosy... He's a pretty cool dude. I think I'll just stay here, and know that ignorance is bliss...
There are bunch (granted they all cost a lot) of ipod players that sit on your desk. No network, no connection to one's computer needed.
They all cost a lot? Come now. I bought one for US$10 at a Walgreens over the holidays for an IPod Nano. It didn't have the best sound quality, but how loud does it need to be for a personal user in a workplace environment.
I think your idea is great, though-- There is really no good reason to hook an iPod up to a workstation.
If someone does not want OS at all, there is no technicall issue in wiping it out, no extra cost
There's not a technical issue, no, but there is a financial issue: When you don't have all of the factory installed promo/demo software bundled on a system, you lose out on revenue that those companies were paying you. How do you think they got the price down so low, after all?
Up until Windows XP, there had always been two separate codebases-- the 9x and the NT codebases. NT was for "business use" and 9x was for "home/small business" use, basically. XP changed that-- both the Home and Professional versions use the same NT codebase that was started in NT, and moved into 2k.
2000 is technically NT 5.0.
XP is technically NT 5.1
Server 2003 wasn't filler, it was designed to fulfill and entirely different role-- serving. It's the same NT codebase as always, it just has enhancements/modifications to better support serving and scalability. It's basically XP without all of the userland GUI stuff in it. Technically, it's NT 5.2
For that matter, 98 wasn't really filler, either. It was how they should have done 95 in the first place! ME, yes, that was filler. I will give you that much.
Mod parent down please.
I'm running SQL Server 2005 on my XP Pro SP2 system as I type this. It's perfectly doable, and a lot of developers do it when testing applications. In fact, there's even SQL Server 2005 Developer Edition, which is quite suitable for XP Pro machines. Microsoft also released a version for workgroups.
SQL Server is a stinking big program. You don't think it might take something, perhaps a service pack to SQL Server, or an entirely new version, to work with Vista?
I can easily see that UAC would factor in heavily with the operation of that program on Vista. I imagine once Longhorn Server finally gets released, you can bet they'll have it working by then.
Or, consider the fact that the entire race is one big commercial, what with all the banner ads covering the cars... It's like a big commercial cavalcade!
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There are plenty of options out there for his particular circumstance, like AviMark:
http://www.avimark.net/
You can scale that up, and it runs on commodity hardware. Honestly, he's lucky that he got that setup to run so long... You could take a software package like what I just mentioned and put it on darn near anything that you want to run it on, older or newer. How many people in ANY field expect something like that to last 15 years?
..So does this mean the technology access fees are going to go down in schools, if they don't have to maintain these computer labs?
I doubt it!
Hah... actually, he walks away from you while still looking at you.
I shudder to think we could be starting a meme here, a la Chuck Norris...
...You're not playing devil's advocate here, I know, but I do just want to point out there's a big difference between saving THAT animal vs. attempting to re-create a copy of that animal.
If given a choice between paying $150k for cancer treatment for my dog, or paying $150k for a clone of that same dog, I'd choose paying for cancer treatment, even if the dog didn't recover from it.
If after all of that, I'd get another dog from a shelter. There are plenty of other good companions out there right now without me having to go and create a new life on this earth.
Heck, bull baiting, the practice of tying a bull to a post, then sicking attack dogs on it, was once mandatory in Great Britain. The reasoning behind the practice was that baited bull meat was considered to taste better.
Of course, this practice was banned, but it just goes to show you that there's nothing new under the sun.
Actually you are factually incorrect. As you can see in the summary and article itself it is referred to as, "Troj/Qhost-AC" by Sophos. That would seem to indicate that at some level it has been reviewed by a Anti-Virus company and I believe they would have tried pretty hard to determine the full capabilities of this Trojan. One could even say it is highly likely.
One "cool" thing about Windows, if you can say that, is there are tools and hooks in the OS to monitor EVERY transaction on the system, from registry edits to disk reads/writes. You are totally right here-- Sophos probably used a tool like this on a "clean" system, installed the trojan, then generated what amounts to a diff of the system using such monitoring tools. Not much can get past such a tool when you have reference systems like they do for malware studies.
Yeah... but I think that's called vandalism.
I don't know if telecoms providers like this are subject to any type of laws about interfering with utilities, but I'm pretty sure even if you got the effect of decreasing uptime and causing them grief, you're probably going to wind up in some kind of serious legal trouble, and possibly be liable for the financial consequence of fixing those lines....
Seems like maybe NeXT may have had a more stable platform than what Apple was working on in the form of MkLinux?
Don't underestimate how intensive running Excel can be. It's not uncommon at all to encounter 50+MB spreadsheets with formulas that recalculate on every refresh. That'll bring a quad core with 4GB of RAM down to a grinding halt...
I agree that if one is not hired to snoop, one shouldn't snoop, but finding something in a common place while troubleshooting is another story.
C# can do it, too-- it's just called "Reflection" there...
What good does this do? Couldn't she have gone to the media, or some other alternative?
I can sympathize with her frustration, but doing something like this is about as effective as yelling at a lowly phone rep over an issue that isn't resolved in the call center. What did she think they were going to do? Not call the police?
The installation tech that came out did a bad job. Fine-- they should have sent someone out to fix her phones. She shouldn't have been ignored. I'm not stating that she has no right to be irritated. Why did she sit on a bench for two hours, rather than be persistent? (She said she was out there this long on an NPR interview).
The best way to get results from organizations like this is to REALLY be annoying, but don't cross the line of property destruction or vulgarity. Sure, it's satisfying to do something like this in the short term, but now this old lady has a criminal record, and she ultimately didn't get Comcast to fix her issue. Personally, I hope that she has to pay recompense for breaking the stuff, just like Comcast should be responsible for paying to fix her stuff. What did she really accomplish?
It's not a double standard. You paid for Windows, and IE was a component included in the price of Windows. Firefox, on the other hand, is something that you had to acquire yourself from a source that was freely offering it. Free != included in cost .
Try reporting a bug to Microsoft. How long will anything that's not a critical security fix take to get resolved? How long a period of time elapsed between the releases of IE 6 and IE 7? I'll bet the answer to both questions are pretty similar...
Thus showing us that sense of humor is not a selecting criteria in giving mod points...
Who the hell is modding this thread flamebait?
But what if we're dealing with quantum neighbors? He is both dead and not dead until I go check out the situation. I don't know about you, but I don't want to be responsible for possibly killing the dude next door just because I got nosy... He's a pretty cool dude. I think I'll just stay here, and know that ignorance is bliss...
They all cost a lot? Come now. I bought one for US$10 at a Walgreens over the holidays for an IPod Nano. It didn't have the best sound quality, but how loud does it need to be for a personal user in a workplace environment.
I think your idea is great, though-- There is really no good reason to hook an iPod up to a workstation.
There's not a technical issue, no, but there is a financial issue: When you don't have all of the factory installed promo/demo software bundled on a system, you lose out on revenue that those companies were paying you. How do you think they got the price down so low, after all?
Step 2: ???
Step 3: PROFIT!!!
Not really a Slashdotism, but it is WAY over used here...
2000 is technically NT 5.0.
XP is technically NT 5.1
Server 2003 wasn't filler, it was designed to fulfill and entirely different role-- serving. It's the same NT codebase as always, it just has enhancements/modifications to better support serving and scalability. It's basically XP without all of the userland GUI stuff in it. Technically, it's NT 5.2
For that matter, 98 wasn't really filler, either. It was how they should have done 95 in the first place! ME, yes, that was filler. I will give you that much.
For more information on how things actually are/were, check this page out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_NT
Also, apparently SQL server does run on Vista, but since it is not officially released yet, it's not supported:a support.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/sql/howtobuy/windowsvist
For your edification, here are the system requirements for SQL Server 2005:a ult.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/sql/prodinfo/sysreqs/def
I can easily see that UAC would factor in heavily with the operation of that program on Vista. I imagine once Longhorn Server finally gets released, you can bet they'll have it working by then.
Or, consider the fact that the entire race is one big commercial, what with all the banner ads covering the cars... It's like a big commercial cavalcade!
I hope to god he's being facetious...
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