You are missing two important points: 1) With ordinary cars you have to ship parts from all over the world to the factory, put the cars together, and then ship the cars all over the world. Since the Think is supposed to require much simpler facilities for piecing the cars together, it can skip one leg on the journey (shipping assembled car all over the world) - thus the IKEA comparison.
2) Unless you switch the engine off, your diesel is going to consume fuel when the car isn't moving - the Think (like a hybrid) will not. This will lead to much lower emissions for urban driving, compared to a small diesel car. If you compare with a hybrid, it will be cheaper, and it won't lug around an extra piece of hardware - so it has something going for it there too.
There is a reason this car is called "City", I expect a hybrid is a much better choice for someone living in the country side, or at least doing a lot country side driving. But for urban commuting, I expect this is more environment friendly than anything this side of a small mc.
How did they invent this license? Is it that they refuse to sell an SDK at a later date to anyone who has downloaded the GPL version? Or have they placed extra limitations in the license (which would render it non-GPL)?
The way you write implies that Trolltech owns any code that has ever linked to a GPL version of QTopia - which sounds much like the UNIX license that SCO imagines that IBM has signed (this was how they imagined they were the rightful owners of RCU). This kind of deal doesn't even fly with a purely commercial license, how can you claim it does with a free? (Or is it that Trolltech really claims so?)
Didn't read this time either - did you? There are just some portions of the code released under the GPL. Older versions of the client has been released under the GPL - but it has been a couple of years since then. As for the server, AFAICT not much - if anything at all - has been previously released under the GPL.
Is it so important to belittle an initiative that you could care less about the actual circumstances? For real nonpartisan info: http://lwn.net/Articles/212810/
Since this is slashdot - I won't suggest you read the FA before posting. I'll just point out that some of the current Ryzom devs are part of this initiative. I can't see why they should be in for a shock anymore than the Blender community was (which also retained a couple of the original devs).
If you just toss the source out there - sure; it'll be hard to adapt. If there are some original devs who care for their baby, as well as a number of new enthusiasts who actually has paid some money to get their hands on the source - it's a whole world of a difference.
Back in 1995 it would have been easy to refute your false statements, since we would only have had to turn the computer on. Windows 95 came with some kind of TCP/IP support, but did not come with MSIE. When finally MSIE came around, it was the dreaded v2 (rebranded Mosaic) - which didn't support frames, and had numerous other problems. And, the fun part - I had to connect directly to MS' modem pool to download MSIE with a command line tool. A very unix experience.
It wasn't until MSIE v3 that Win95 actually had a useful browser made by MS, and IIRC it was only distributed on later preinstalled versions of Win95 (which is why MS Office also bundled MSIE when it got to a finished state).
Also, about Mac users downloading TCP/IP - we did that too in the Win3 time frame. It was called Trumpet Winsock. OTOH Linux came with integrated TCP/IP, decent networking (not worse than Windows!), and the latest Netscape. To me it was office apps and games that were the difference.
It's their code, and they absolutely have the right to do what they want with it.
I'm not sure about the ratios - but isn't it in fact a Mach kernel and some BSD-code, with a number of changes/adaptions by Apple? Do you know anything about the Apple:BSD ratio on the copyright?
Anyway, my point is that Apple has the right to do what they want with the code - but it's not quite their code for all that.
There are important problems with your calculation too. The question you do not ask is: Do the other filters help at connection time. With an IP blacklist - you don't have to recieve calls at the relay level at all. This keeps the IP-traffic down.
So, if there are no other IP-blacklists used at the mail server level, the IP-traffic used by mail may rise by one order of magintude. Considering that a lot of spam includes big fat images of the text (to defeat local spam filters), the IP-traffic may rise a bit more than that.
What ends up in the users mailbox is only one aspect of this problem, and not the biggest one (which your calculation shows quite nicely).
The postprocessing needed to get a usefull video is limited to this: 1) Take one pic/rotation. 2) Profit!!!
If you want smoother video I suppose you could take 2 or 4 pics/rotation, and still get away with a bare minimum of postprocessing. It's certainly not more than an embedded CPU can take, unless the thing is spinning insanely fast - but in that case 1 pic/rotation will be enough anyway.
I agree with previous poster. Getting stuff compiled to your CPU helps, and so does flags (I use -Os for small binaries - and it helps a lot, on dual opterons with 1GB RAM) - but the real kicker is to disable dependancies. Specifically look up what the files/etc/portage/package.use and/etc/portage/package.keywords do. They are essential to a lean Gentoo install! (Myself, I only enable java, gtk, gnome, kde and qt on a package by package basis.)
Have you seen any game mods or Excell macro compilations sold independently?
No? That's because they are derivative works. They can be shared for free over the net, but not sold commercially (or at least - noone has ever dared).
Counterstrike is the perfect example here. A lot of people drew maps that were included in this mod also when it was sold commercially, but noone except the main author got any money. It was a derivative work that sold Half-Life (and the maps were derivative works of a derivative), but could never have sold independently. The lawyers would have had so much fun in court if the fans had tried!
So, why should the GPL be treated different from any other license?
Both of them belong to the youth organization, one of them is press secretary on the national level. In Sweden the youth organizations play an important role in the election campaign, and "youth" is anyone under 40. This guy works close to the party leader, and even closer to other minister wannabies.
The logins were made from one IP, which can be tied to this guy, 84 times until March. They continued after that, but not from tracable IPs (so the guy was no genius, but may have smarted up).
This has been covered by more than one journalist. It's making the rounds in all Swedish media, and the police is making an investigation (using the Pirate Bay method - taking every computer they suspect might has MSNed the ones affected, or something on that order).
The stuff that he got was campaign planning stuff, so he had a clue what would come up in advance. Does a press secretary benefit from this? Hell yes!
In general, the public is getting tired of stuff like this. It'll probably affect all parties badly, not just the Liberals.
...this isn't a review at all. This isn't an editorial put together by a staff on a gamer site like IGN or GameSpy either.
This is a summary of a poll. The participants are game developers, and the poll has decidedly a developerish slant. None of the motivations are written by Gamasutra editors - it is all written by the game developers who participated in the poll. Being editors, the Gamasutra people have merely selected the motivations they found interesting. And not just for the poll winners, but also for other interesting and inovating FPSes too - thus including all the FPSes you mentioned, and then some (eg Marathon was early, and did really interesting things with weapons and explosions, which was duly mentioned).
Anyway, the comment about the futility of bitching about Slashdot poll results apply to bitching about Gamasutra polls too.
Insightfull, my ass.
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Tetris...
Sorry, but I had to say it. A game can be something else than an ultra realistic world simulation in many polygons and big textures, and still be fun. In my book that is even a pro, and there are more people like me; and they are casual players - the group that the market desperately wants to target, you will never get casuals to play EQ or WoW - possibly FF, but not for long - and at a friends place.
So, is it possible to do something like tetris on 5 people, get it really polished - and do the QA? Yes, it's a question of getting a good enough idea - and to actually develop it. And making a clone of something old is not it. Second question, will a startup do that? Not in 1000 years.
Tell me again: How long was Half Life 2 in development?
I seem to remember a lot of gaming sites that said it could hardly top Doom3, and since both of those games were released at roughly the same time - and HL2 had been in development substantially longer, Valve was probably screwed.
If there was no reason for this seizure, of course compensation will be paid and if the evidence used to justify it was flawed or faked or the wrong kind, senior police officers may or may not face disiplinary action.
This is not the US. In fact, Sweden has a completely different legal tradition from UK and the US - and so, very little that is true about the US legal system is the same in Sweden. (For example; we don't have common law, juries, or small claims court - and suing doesn't work the same way at all.)
It is unlikely that there will be any compensation (not even for the companies that just happened to be hosted by PRQ too - though they will make a try). Disciplinary action is even more unlikely.
OTOH our minister of justice is going to be investigated for his role in this action by the constitutional commitee of the parliament. (It's kinda like an impeachment, except any MP can demand an investigation, so investigations are pretty common.)
Virii are pretty much always tailored to bypass the protections of one species. The exceptions (bird flu and possibly HIV) are very rare. Since the new species in this cave have been walled off for millions of years - they are pretty much safe from any modern virus infection.
When it comes to bacteria and parasites, it may be a somewhat different question - since they are genetically much more complex. Still, I'd say it's probably no big deal. That new ecosystem just isn't compatible with ours (for the time being).
I'd wager the primary reason they sealed off the cave is to prevent water and oxygen from escaping from the cave, and contamination from the outside comes in as a distant second.
Abolishment of copyright would be a decisive victory both for CC and GPL.
No.
If copyright is abolished - commercial interests will find another way to protect their stuff, probably with technology (eg with ties to hardware, or product activation, or part of a program's logic offloaded to a central server). Thus there is no win for the consumers, and commercial entities are free to steal Free code.
The GNU movement started over proprietary printer drivers IIRC, and the point was to get improved access to source code - and make it impossible to yank access at a later date. Abolished copyright will make it all the more unlikely that any company is going to let source code gratis/Free, because it will have become a trade secret.
Whether you or me are right has not been tried in a court of law.
RMS was unsure about how a court would interpret the license, and found a reason to amend the GPL for gcc for this reason (and he's not that keen on amending the GPL for specific applications).
Neither me or you are a lawyer.
Therefore any discussion beyond this point is pointless.
My point was only to show that there was noone who implicated the the source code would be a derivative of gcc.
PS. I have been using IDEs and other software construction tools that do claim part of the copyright on software produced with them, unless you get an "enterprise" (extorsion) license. I'd wager that if gcc/g++ links in the tiniest bit of code - your arguments are not so clear cut.
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You are missing two important points:
1) With ordinary cars you have to ship parts from all over the world to the factory, put the cars together, and then ship the cars all over the world. Since the Think is supposed to require much simpler facilities for piecing the cars together, it can skip one leg on the journey (shipping assembled car all over the world) - thus the IKEA comparison.
2) Unless you switch the engine off, your diesel is going to consume fuel when the car isn't moving - the Think (like a hybrid) will not. This will lead to much lower emissions for urban driving, compared to a small diesel car. If you compare with a hybrid, it will be cheaper, and it won't lug around an extra piece of hardware - so it has something going for it there too.
There is a reason this car is called "City", I expect a hybrid is a much better choice for someone living in the country side, or at least doing a lot country side driving. But for urban commuting, I expect this is more environment friendly than anything this side of a small mc.
I'm not sure about the US, but in Europe there are cell companies that give a special price plan when you are in the office.
The idea is to make businesses give up on the landline entirely. That could be an alternative to the DECT/GSM combo - if you can get such a deal.
...with three heads!
GPL forever???
How did they invent this license? Is it that they refuse to sell an SDK at a later date to anyone who has downloaded the GPL version? Or have they placed extra limitations in the license (which would render it non-GPL)?
The way you write implies that Trolltech owns any code that has ever linked to a GPL version of QTopia - which sounds much like the UNIX license that SCO imagines that IBM has signed (this was how they imagined they were the rightful owners of RCU). This kind of deal doesn't even fly with a purely commercial license, how can you claim it does with a free? (Or is it that Trolltech really claims so?)
Didn't read this time either - did you? There are just some portions of the code released under the GPL. Older versions of the client has been released under the GPL - but it has been a couple of years since then. As for the server, AFAICT not much - if anything at all - has been previously released under the GPL.
Is it so important to belittle an initiative that you could care less about the actual circumstances? For real nonpartisan info: http://lwn.net/Articles/212810/
Since this is slashdot - I won't suggest you read the FA before posting. I'll just point out that some of the current Ryzom devs are part of this initiative. I can't see why they should be in for a shock anymore than the Blender community was (which also retained a couple of the original devs).
If you just toss the source out there - sure; it'll be hard to adapt. If there are some original devs who care for their baby, as well as a number of new enthusiasts who actually has paid some money to get their hands on the source - it's a whole world of a difference.
Hello,
it's nice to see young people around here.
Back in 1995 it would have been easy to refute your false statements, since we would only have had to turn the computer on. Windows 95 came with some kind of TCP/IP support, but did not come with MSIE. When finally MSIE came around, it was the dreaded v2 (rebranded Mosaic) - which didn't support frames, and had numerous other problems. And, the fun part - I had to connect directly to MS' modem pool to download MSIE with a command line tool. A very unix experience.
It wasn't until MSIE v3 that Win95 actually had a useful browser made by MS, and IIRC it was only distributed on later preinstalled versions of Win95 (which is why MS Office also bundled MSIE when it got to a finished state).
Also, about Mac users downloading TCP/IP - we did that too in the Win3 time frame. It was called Trumpet Winsock. OTOH Linux came with integrated TCP/IP, decent networking (not worse than Windows!), and the latest Netscape. To me it was office apps and games that were the difference.
It's their code, and they absolutely have the right to do what they want with it.
I'm not sure about the ratios - but isn't it in fact a Mach kernel and some BSD-code, with a number of changes/adaptions by Apple? Do you know anything about the Apple:BSD ratio on the copyright?
Anyway, my point is that Apple has the right to do what they want with the code - but it's not quite their code for all that.
If an Indian callcenter makes a call - it's just another unsolicited call, and autodialer rules do not apply. It's the same as when volunteers call.
Besides, it was a joke - 'k?
...they will just outsource the calling to Indian callcenters.
Imagine that!
There are important problems with your calculation too. The question you do not ask is: Do the other filters help at connection time. With an IP blacklist - you don't have to recieve calls at the relay level at all. This keeps the IP-traffic down.
So, if there are no other IP-blacklists used at the mail server level, the IP-traffic used by mail may rise by one order of magintude. Considering that a lot of spam includes big fat images of the text (to defeat local spam filters), the IP-traffic may rise a bit more than that.
What ends up in the users mailbox is only one aspect of this problem, and not the biggest one (which your calculation shows quite nicely).
I read that as:
"Vista to Include Stepped up Anit-Privacy Measures"
Nothing says it won't, but I was darned surprised that they'd have the gall to announce it as a feature!
The postprocessing needed to get a usefull video is limited to this:
1) Take one pic/rotation.
2) Profit!!!
If you want smoother video I suppose you could take 2 or 4 pics/rotation, and still get away with a bare minimum of postprocessing. It's certainly not more than an embedded CPU can take, unless the thing is spinning insanely fast - but in that case 1 pic/rotation will be enough anyway.
I agree with previous poster. Getting stuff compiled to your CPU helps, and so does flags (I use -Os for small binaries - and it helps a lot, on dual opterons with 1GB RAM) - but the real kicker is to disable dependancies. Specifically look up what the files /etc/portage/package.use and /etc/portage/package.keywords do. They are essential to a lean Gentoo install! (Myself, I only enable java, gtk, gnome, kde and qt on a package by package basis.)
Utter bullcrap!
Have you seen any game mods or Excell macro compilations sold independently?
No? That's because they are derivative works. They can be shared for free over the net, but not sold commercially (or at least - noone has ever dared).
Counterstrike is the perfect example here. A lot of people drew maps that were included in this mod also when it was sold commercially, but noone except the main author got any money. It was a derivative work that sold Half-Life (and the maps were derivative works of a derivative), but could never have sold independently. The lawyers would have had so much fun in court if the fans had tried!
So, why should the GPL be treated different from any other license?
Try again:
There are two people who have confessed, so far.
Both of them belong to the youth organization, one of them is press secretary on the national level. In Sweden the youth organizations play an important role in the election campaign, and "youth" is anyone under 40. This guy works close to the party leader, and even closer to other minister wannabies.
The logins were made from one IP, which can be tied to this guy, 84 times until March. They continued after that, but not from tracable IPs (so the guy was no genius, but may have smarted up).
This has been covered by more than one journalist. It's making the rounds in all Swedish media, and the police is making an investigation (using the Pirate Bay method - taking every computer they suspect might has MSNed the ones affected, or something on that order).
The stuff that he got was campaign planning stuff, so he had a clue what would come up in advance. Does a press secretary benefit from this? Hell yes!
In general, the public is getting tired of stuff like this. It'll probably affect all parties badly, not just the Liberals.
PS I sympathize with neither party.
...this isn't a review at all. This isn't an editorial put together by a staff on a gamer site like IGN or GameSpy either.
This is a summary of a poll. The participants are game developers, and the poll has decidedly a developerish slant. None of the motivations are written by Gamasutra editors - it is all written by the game developers who participated in the poll. Being editors, the Gamasutra people have merely selected the motivations they found interesting. And not just for the poll winners, but also for other interesting and inovating FPSes too - thus including all the FPSes you mentioned, and then some (eg Marathon was early, and did really interesting things with weapons and explosions, which was duly mentioned).
Anyway, the comment about the futility of bitching about Slashdot poll results apply to bitching about Gamasutra polls too.
Insightfull, my ass.
Tetris...
Sorry, but I had to say it. A game can be something else than an ultra realistic world simulation in many polygons and big textures, and still be fun. In my book that is even a pro, and there are more people like me; and they are casual players - the group that the market desperately wants to target, you will never get casuals to play EQ or WoW - possibly FF, but not for long - and at a friends place.
So, is it possible to do something like tetris on 5 people, get it really polished - and do the QA? Yes, it's a question of getting a good enough idea - and to actually develop it. And making a clone of something old is not it. Second question, will a startup do that? Not in 1000 years.
But if there are 1000 startups...
Tell me again: How long was Half Life 2 in development?
I seem to remember a lot of gaming sites that said it could hardly top Doom3, and since both of those games were released at roughly the same time - and HL2 had been in development substantially longer, Valve was probably screwed.
Yeah, right!
Consider this:
There will always be more vapour to freshen the vapourware jokes.
If there was no reason for this seizure, of course compensation will be paid and if the evidence used to justify it was flawed or faked or the wrong kind, senior police officers may or may not face disiplinary action.
This is not the US. In fact, Sweden has a completely different legal tradition from UK and the US - and so, very little that is true about the US legal system is the same in Sweden. (For example; we don't have common law, juries, or small claims court - and suing doesn't work the same way at all.)
It is unlikely that there will be any compensation (not even for the companies that just happened to be hosted by PRQ too - though they will make a try). Disciplinary action is even more unlikely.
OTOH our minister of justice is going to be investigated for his role in this action by the constitutional commitee of the parliament. (It's kinda like an impeachment, except any MP can demand an investigation, so investigations are pretty common.)
Virii are pretty much always tailored to bypass the protections of one species. The exceptions (bird flu and possibly HIV) are very rare. Since the new species in this cave have been walled off for millions of years - they are pretty much safe from any modern virus infection.
When it comes to bacteria and parasites, it may be a somewhat different question - since they are genetically much more complex. Still, I'd say it's probably no big deal. That new ecosystem just isn't compatible with ours (for the time being).
I'd wager the primary reason they sealed off the cave is to prevent water and oxygen from escaping from the cave, and contamination from the outside comes in as a distant second.
Abolishment of copyright would be a decisive victory both for CC and GPL.
No.
If copyright is abolished - commercial interests will find another way to protect their stuff, probably with technology (eg with ties to hardware, or product activation, or part of a program's logic offloaded to a central server). Thus there is no win for the consumers, and commercial entities are free to steal Free code.
The GNU movement started over proprietary printer drivers IIRC, and the point was to get improved access to source code - and make it impossible to yank access at a later date. Abolished copyright will make it all the more unlikely that any company is going to let source code gratis/Free, because it will have become a trade secret.
I was thinking; isn't this related to his wife being an (ex-?)karate champion?
These are (I believe) uncontested facts:
Therefore any discussion beyond this point is pointless.
My point was only to show that there was noone who implicated the the source code would be a derivative of gcc.
PS. I have been using IDEs and other software construction tools that do claim part of the copyright on software produced with them, unless you get an "enterprise" (extorsion) license. I'd wager that if gcc/g++ links in the tiniest bit of code - your arguments are not so clear cut.