So we're spending billions of dollars to preserve old spaceships, when things like SpaceShipOne only cost tens or hundreds of millions for test flights?
Spaceship One has only made it to an altitude of around 100km - it's suborbital, IOW. Wikipedia reckons that if you want to accelerate something to orbital speed it's going to take you around 30 times as much energy as it takes to get something as high as Spaceship One, so they've probably got a little way to go yet.
While I'm all for developing new technology, I also think it's a good idea to get it working properly first before you throw out the old stuff.
If you/your client can't make money off a static website design in 14 years, then you don't deserve to be in business. Static, mind you, because any changes would be covered by copyright for an additional 14 years after that point.
Well, I make money: I invoice the client when it's complete. The client makes money as well: they sell products via the site.
What I object to is that, without copyright, one of my client's competitors - who hasn't contributed anything to the creation of this site - could then download the design in its entirety, make no changes to it other than to remove any of my client's identifying marks, pass it off as their own, and use it to generate the same money as my client but without the overhead of actually developing the thing in the first place.
How about a newspaper which sends a journalist off to a far-flung country to break a story? He comes back with both the article and a fat expenses claim; the paper publishes the article and pays him for his travel, accommodation and out-of-pocket costs. Personally, I have difficulty taking the position that all the other newspapers in the world should now be allowed to copy that article, claim it as their own work, and print it verbatim without any consideration to the original creator.
If copyright is truly "evil", let's get rid of it - however, I fear we'll end up in a situation where no-one ever does anything first. Why would you, as CEO of a major multinational, pump billions of dollars into R&D when anyone who wants to can take your research and use it as your own (and, conversely, when you can just help yourself to anyone else's research as you see fit?) Why would you, as a inventor working from a shed at the bottom of your garden, try and develop some cool new technology if IBM could just step in as soon as you go public and take credit for all your hard work?
Copyright laws should not be longer than they were originally with the possible exception for art and then only the lifetime of the artist.
OK, but you now have to define "art" so that not only does it cover whatever you meant it to cover, but also in such a way that a Microsoft lawyer can't shoehorn the code for Vista into it.
I'd also quite like to know why Richard Strauss' four last songs (amongst the most beautiful music ever written, incidentally) should only have been subject to copyright during his lifetime, even though he died nine days before they were performed for the first time.
Many times activity on the internet is exactly like a phone call, a communicatin between friends/colleagues/etc. For instance, email or instant messaging.
Imagine you're on a beach in Aruba (hey, why not). You decide to drop your Granny a line, so you grab a nice postcard with a picture of a palm tree on the front - "having a great time, weather is brilliant, hope you're well" - and hand it in for posting at your hotel's reception desk. Now start counting how many people have the opportunity to read your message before it's delivered.
Think of emails and IMs along these lines rather than comparing them to phone calls. You can send your Granny a completely private message on the back of her postcard, but you'll need to use encryption of some sort.
Fantastic, I'm really looking forward to the Ibiza-style boom-boom-loop remixes of "Day Tripper", cover versions of "Yesterday" by this week's 13-year-old teenie pop sensation, and "We Can Work It Out" as the background music in party political broadcasts.
Copyright in a limited fashion (7+7 years) is still evil in my mind
You'll also see that the federal budget would (a) no longer have the capacity for pork-barrel crap, and (b) would no longer have the need for such money, since it's drastically out-of-scope for that level of government.
Who pays for the big stuff?
Who pays for transport infrastructure? Motorways costs millions of dollars per kilometre to build, non-trivial sums to maintain, and require expensive engineering projects like bridges and tunnels along the way. Who looks after national defence and intelligence? Who administers things like state pensions and benefits?
I'm concerned that under your system we'd end up with a magnified version of what we in.uk call "postcode lottery", where local councils provide services to various areas and many people are in the position of having the street they live on determine things like the quality of their childrens' education or whether they'll wait one month or eighteen for their heart bypass operation.
Here's another one, though: I'm self-employed, doing IT support. I can drop a few grand on a brand new shiny dual-Athlon PC with SLI graphics and all the trimmings complete with a 25" monitor, get a T3 line installed, and class the whole lot as a business expense. My income is £0, but there's a £3,000 PC on my desk and my ping times are looking fantastic.
"10% of my income? Sorry, I'm broke. I'm forced to spend all my time playing computer games because I can't afford to do anything else."
Firstly, I have to agree with the sibling - income-adjusted fees make for a great deterrent. If there's no upper limit they might even stop corporations in their tracks (for example, if $CRIME is fined with 10% of the annual income it would seriouly hurt anyone from Joe Sixpack to Microsoft).
Steve Jobs' annual salary is $1, so if he decides not to cash in any share options during the relevant twelve months, you can only fine him 10 cents for $CRIME.
Means-testing only works on people with bad accountants.
how do you estimate costs like, e.g. the cost of not having email service for X number hours/days/weeks if your email server goes down?
Let's say you're the IT boss at a recruitment consultancy with 100 other staff. Email goes down at 9am on Monday (you can tell this is an example - the chance of a critical server going down at 9am on Monday is within epsilon of zero, but at 5pm on Friday you're almost guaranteed to see blue smoke coming out of something).
Some direct costs:
How many messages can't be sent out? How many phone calls or faxes must be sent instead? How much do they cost to send?
How many people can physically send a fax at the same time? How long does it take to make a phone call instead of an email? What's the approximate hourly revenue one of your sales guys generates? How many man hours are being wasted? Are you paying overtime for any of this?
How long will the IT department spend fixing the outage? What's their hourly rate? What other problems won't get fixed because you have to sort this one out instead? How much are those other problems costing the company?
Some indirect costs:
How many CVs do you usually receive each hour from prospective candidates? How many do you place in jobs (earning commission)? How many potential sales are you missing?
How many job specs do you receive each hour from prospective employers? Same maths.
How many adverts do your marketing team place in newspapers, etc? How many will they be placing today? What's your ad response rate? How many of the responses go on to earn you money? How much have you lost?
Basically, you look at the business' metrics, work out which ones are negatively affected by an email outage, type those up into a nicely-laid-out-one-page-of-A4 summary with the grand total in big bold text and a note at the bottom saying "there are also the negative effects on our public image to take into consideration and I suggest we discuss this with Marketing at some point", then stick that on your manager's desk just before you need next year's budget approving.
However, this is where IT managers who think their department exists in a vacuum (and there are far too many of these) usually come unstuck. It's very hard to quantify the effect of an email outage if you don't know what the rest of the company is doing with it.
and it is because of this very issue I know a few people who run without AV protection.
Tell these people they need decent AV software. The annoying fill-your-screen-with-popups stuff isn't that way because the programmers are inept, it's that way by design.
Cheap AV programs with an inferiority complex (i.e. the ones you buy in boxes at PC World) pop up a lot of crap to try and make you believe they're constantly protecting you against a barrage of threats that would otherwise steal your passwords, buy a Ferrari on your credit card, rot13 your mailbox, and sleep with your wife. If they didn't, a lot of users might think "but I never see this thing actually doing anything" when their first year's subscription is up and Norton tell them it'll be another $whatever for more updates.
Good software doesn't have anything to prove. It just sits there very quietly getting on with its job.
Lastly never ever interrupt any full screen application unless the world is ending.
Maybe not even then. If I'm playing Quake 4 when the final trumpet sounds, I'm happy to go without being interrupted by a "Warning: world is ending" pop-up box.
Funny that Billiards is called that, when the game rarely involves the paying of bills.
Most likely derived from the Old French "bille", meaning a log or stick.
Funny that Rugby is called that, when the game rarely involves a rug.
The game was first played at Rugby school in Warwickshire. Many UK public schools have their own sports which aren't played elsewhere - Eton has the Wall Game, for example - but this one just took off a bit more than most (although no-one's managed to score a goal in the Wall Game since 1909, so you can probably see why it doesn't thrill the crowds).
Funny that Golf is called that, when the game rarely involves German cars.
Dates from around C14th, and probably from the Middle Dutch "colf", meaning a club or bat. Some contemporary Scottish references have it as "gouf".
Funny that Hockey is called that, when there is little hocking.
Couldn't find much on this one, but could well be something to do with the hook-shaped sticks used to play the game.
Freude, schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium
Wir betreten feuertrunken, Himmlische, dein Heiligtum.
Deine Zauber binden wieder, was die Mode streng geteilt;
Alle Menschen werden Brüder, wo dein sanfter Flügel weilt.
(Now I'm going to get sued by Beethoven and Schiller, or what's left of them).
ObWikipediaLink. This recording is probably definitive but the 1957 Klemperer and 1951 Furtwangler versions are also worth a go if you can live with mono.
Not quite decided whether the 9th is the Best Music Ever, but it's in my top five.
If you like political trivia, you might be interested to know that.uk Members of Parliament are not permitted to resign: they can only leave their seat through death, disqualification, elevation to the peerage, or the dissolution of Parliament.
This leaves them in the interesting position of having to come up with a way to get disqualified if they want to quit their job. Traditionally the way to do this is to apply for an office of the Crown which an MP isn't allowed to hold (e.g. the Crown Steward and Bailiff of the Three Chiltern Hundreds), but I'm hopeful that one day someone will decide they're going to do it by lighting up a big fat reefer during Prime Minister's Questions.
On Windows you cannot check notepad.exe source to see how to write a simple Windows program
But you can go to go to Sourceforge, download an OSS text editor - which is probably orders of magnitude superior to Notepad anyway - and see how they do it. OSS isn't forbidden on Windows (at least, not yet <grin>), it's just MS's code you can't see.
In addition, all MS IDEs come with an "Application Wizard" which will build a basic app for you so you can pick through the code and see how the controls work. Just for chuckles, the one from Visual Basic 6 - possibly the most-used IDE MS have ever released - was, in fact, a simple text editor.
It's like music, or films, or just about any other creatively-based industry. 90% of the stuff produced is mass-market plasticised sugar-coated crap, but there's always that 10% left over that makes the whole process worthwhile - of course, my 10% might not be the same as your 10%...
I came to realize that PCs have started producing games that are fundamentally the same ones as the ones you get on consoles
Sometimes games are technically superior on the PC than they are on the consoles. There are also many I can't play without a mouse and keyboard (and not just Quake and friends, think Baldur's Gate 2 with all its keyboard shortcuts), which isn't an option on consoles at least AFAIK.
There are also sometypes of games - ones that you don't just pick up and play for ten minutes, basically - that I don't think are really suited to consoles at all. Equally, there are some games - usually ones involving dance mats, light guns, or other funky hardware - that I don't think work well on PCs.
YMMV, of course, but I think to achieve gaming nirvana you still need a console *and* a computer. Hopefully in five years this statement will no longer be true, but I've been hoping that for twenty years now and it hasn't happened yet.
Oh and 3- Computer games have become obscenely ressource-hungry,
I am in violent agreement with you on this one, but then I can remember saying the same thing in 1990 when I had to upgrade the memory in my Atari ST from 512k to 1Mb so I could play Powermonger. Irritatingly this sort of "push the boundaries by releasing a game that isn't quite runnable on the hardware available today" attitude only used to be taken by luminaries like Molyneux or Carmack (who could be forgiven, as they made up for it with the games they released), whereas now everyone seems to think all PC gamers have upwards of £2,000 to spend on hardware every year.
Personally my favourite game is still the original arcade version of Defender.
Neteller don't charge me for depositing into my account via BACS, nor do they charge me for sending money to merchants or other users. Pretty much everyone will charge you for depositing via a credit card, as it costs them more to process it (if they don't, they've built this extra into their margins and are making a fortune on deposits via other methods).
With a quick search on Yahoo Jobs, the lowest paying IT security jobs start out at $75,000 with five years of IT experiance
Maybe so, but there's an important difference between "spending 10+ hours a day commuting/working with a real job" and "spending an hour a week reading reports from your bots".
he likely could have been making $100,000 by the time he was 30 working for the other side without the risk.
It may also be worth considering how much he could have grown his botnet by the time he was 30, or what other (potentially less risky and more lucrative) illegal activities he could have funded with the profits.
A criminal lifestyle operates on a totally different risk:reward ratio to a legitimate one. This guy felt the risk was worth the reward, but it didn't work out for him.
*If police fear there might be serious violence in a particular area they can stop and search anyone in that area for up to 24 hours. In these circumstances the police do not need co have a reasonable suspicion that you are carrying a weapon or committing a crime. This very wide power can be used at raves, demonstrations etc.*
UK police have extensive stop-and-search powers, and don't even need a reasonable suspicion that an offence has been or is being committed. They have to fill out a dozen forms afterwards, but that's the only thing holding them back.
BBC news ran a couple of stories on this topic last weekend that may be of interest: here and here
The Home Office's stop-and-search guidance notes are here (PDF)
> How can one be shure that there isn't a NSA designed ship in that shoe you just bought?
I have just cut my shoes into little pieces with a pair of scissors and a Stanley knife. I can categorically state there is no chip in there, NSA-designed or otherwise.
BTW, does anyone know a good shoe shop? I need to buy a new pair.
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Out of interest, they only employ a little over 6% of the country's retail workers.
Spaceship One has only made it to an altitude of around 100km - it's suborbital, IOW. Wikipedia reckons that if you want to accelerate something to orbital speed it's going to take you around 30 times as much energy as it takes to get something as high as Spaceship One, so they've probably got a little way to go yet.
While I'm all for developing new technology, I also think it's a good idea to get it working properly first before you throw out the old stuff.
First China, now this... what happened to "Do no evil", Google?
Well, I make money: I invoice the client when it's complete. The client makes money as well: they sell products via the site.
What I object to is that, without copyright, one of my client's competitors - who hasn't contributed anything to the creation of this site - could then download the design in its entirety, make no changes to it other than to remove any of my client's identifying marks, pass it off as their own, and use it to generate the same money as my client but without the overhead of actually developing the thing in the first place.
How about a newspaper which sends a journalist off to a far-flung country to break a story? He comes back with both the article and a fat expenses claim; the paper publishes the article and pays him for his travel, accommodation and out-of-pocket costs. Personally, I have difficulty taking the position that all the other newspapers in the world should now be allowed to copy that article, claim it as their own work, and print it verbatim without any consideration to the original creator.
If copyright is truly "evil", let's get rid of it - however, I fear we'll end up in a situation where no-one ever does anything first. Why would you, as CEO of a major multinational, pump billions of dollars into R&D when anyone who wants to can take your research and use it as your own (and, conversely, when you can just help yourself to anyone else's research as you see fit?) Why would you, as a inventor working from a shed at the bottom of your garden, try and develop some cool new technology if IBM could just step in as soon as you go public and take credit for all your hard work?
Copyright laws should not be longer than they were originally with the possible exception for art and then only the lifetime of the artist.
OK, but you now have to define "art" so that not only does it cover whatever you meant it to cover, but also in such a way that a Microsoft lawyer can't shoehorn the code for Vista into it.
I'd also quite like to know why Richard Strauss' four last songs (amongst the most beautiful music ever written, incidentally) should only have been subject to copyright during his lifetime, even though he died nine days before they were performed for the first time.
Imagine you're on a beach in Aruba (hey, why not). You decide to drop your Granny a line, so you grab a nice postcard with a picture of a palm tree on the front - "having a great time, weather is brilliant, hope you're well" - and hand it in for posting at your hotel's reception desk. Now start counting how many people have the opportunity to read your message before it's delivered.
Think of emails and IMs along these lines rather than comparing them to phone calls. You can send your Granny a completely private message on the back of her postcard, but you'll need to use encryption of some sort.
Fantastic, I'm really looking forward to the Ibiza-style boom-boom-loop remixes of "Day Tripper", cover versions of "Yesterday" by this week's 13-year-old teenie pop sensation, and "We Can Work It Out" as the background music in party political broadcasts.
Copyright in a limited fashion (7+7 years) is still evil in my mind
Absolutely. If, for example, I work hard for a couple of months to design and program a website for which I invoice my client several thousand pounds, anyone else should be completely entitled to copy the design and pass it off as their own work and neither I nor my client should have any legal recourse.
You'll also see that the federal budget would (a) no longer have the capacity for pork-barrel crap, and (b) would no longer have the need for such money, since it's drastically out-of-scope for that level of government.
Who pays for the big stuff?
Who pays for transport infrastructure? Motorways costs millions of dollars per kilometre to build, non-trivial sums to maintain, and require expensive engineering projects like bridges and tunnels along the way. Who looks after national defence and intelligence? Who administers things like state pensions and benefits?
I'm concerned that under your system we'd end up with a magnified version of what we in .uk call "postcode lottery", where local councils provide services to various areas and many people are in the position of having the street they live on determine things like the quality of their childrens' education or whether they'll wait one month or eighteen for their heart bypass operation.
Here's another one, though: I'm self-employed, doing IT support. I can drop a few grand on a brand new shiny dual-Athlon PC with SLI graphics and all the trimmings complete with a 25" monitor, get a T3 line installed, and class the whole lot as a business expense. My income is £0, but there's a £3,000 PC on my desk and my ping times are looking fantastic.
"10% of my income? Sorry, I'm broke. I'm forced to spend all my time playing computer games because I can't afford to do anything else."
Steve Jobs' annual salary is $1, so if he decides not to cash in any share options during the relevant twelve months, you can only fine him 10 cents for $CRIME.
Means-testing only works on people with bad accountants.
Let's say you're the IT boss at a recruitment consultancy with 100 other staff. Email goes down at 9am on Monday (you can tell this is an example - the chance of a critical server going down at 9am on Monday is within epsilon of zero, but at 5pm on Friday you're almost guaranteed to see blue smoke coming out of something).
Some direct costs:
Some indirect costs:
Basically, you look at the business' metrics, work out which ones are negatively affected by an email outage, type those up into a nicely-laid-out-one-page-of-A4 summary with the grand total in big bold text and a note at the bottom saying "there are also the negative effects on our public image to take into consideration and I suggest we discuss this with Marketing at some point", then stick that on your manager's desk just before you need next year's budget approving.
However, this is where IT managers who think their department exists in a vacuum (and there are far too many of these) usually come unstuck. It's very hard to quantify the effect of an email outage if you don't know what the rest of the company is doing with it.
True. However, the squeaky wheel is also usually the first to be replaced.
Tell these people they need decent AV software. The annoying fill-your-screen-with-popups stuff isn't that way because the programmers are inept, it's that way by design.
Cheap AV programs with an inferiority complex (i.e. the ones you buy in boxes at PC World) pop up a lot of crap to try and make you believe they're constantly protecting you against a barrage of threats that would otherwise steal your passwords, buy a Ferrari on your credit card, rot13 your mailbox, and sleep with your wife. If they didn't, a lot of users might think "but I never see this thing actually doing anything" when their first year's subscription is up and Norton tell them it'll be another $whatever for more updates.
Good software doesn't have anything to prove. It just sits there very quietly getting on with its job.
Lastly never ever interrupt any full screen application unless the world is ending.
Maybe not even then. If I'm playing Quake 4 when the final trumpet sounds, I'm happy to go without being interrupted by a "Warning: world is ending" pop-up box.
Funny that Billiards is called that, when the game rarely involves the paying of bills.
Most likely derived from the Old French "bille", meaning a log or stick.
Funny that Rugby is called that, when the game rarely involves a rug.
The game was first played at Rugby school in Warwickshire. Many UK public schools have their own sports which aren't played elsewhere - Eton has the Wall Game, for example - but this one just took off a bit more than most (although no-one's managed to score a goal in the Wall Game since 1909, so you can probably see why it doesn't thrill the crowds).
Funny that Golf is called that, when the game rarely involves German cars.
Dates from around C14th, and probably from the Middle Dutch "colf", meaning a club or bat. Some contemporary Scottish references have it as "gouf".
Funny that Hockey is called that, when there is little hocking.
Couldn't find much on this one, but could well be something to do with the hook-shaped sticks used to play the game.
Freude, schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium
Wir betreten feuertrunken, Himmlische, dein Heiligtum.
Deine Zauber binden wieder, was die Mode streng geteilt;
Alle Menschen werden Brüder, wo dein sanfter Flügel weilt.
(Now I'm going to get sued by Beethoven and Schiller, or what's left of them).
ObWikipediaLink. This recording is probably definitive but the 1957 Klemperer and 1951 Furtwangler versions are also worth a go if you can live with mono.
Not quite decided whether the 9th is the Best Music Ever, but it's in my top five.
</classical geek>
This leaves them in the interesting position of having to come up with a way to get disqualified if they want to quit their job. Traditionally the way to do this is to apply for an office of the Crown which an MP isn't allowed to hold (e.g. the Crown Steward and Bailiff of the Three Chiltern Hundreds), but I'm hopeful that one day someone will decide they're going to do it by lighting up a big fat reefer during Prime Minister's Questions.
Indeed. You can drive from Plymouth to Banjul in a car worth under £100, so long as you don't mind using plumber's mastic to hold the driveshaft together while you're crossing the Sahara.
But you can go to go to Sourceforge, download an OSS text editor - which is probably orders of magnitude superior to Notepad anyway - and see how they do it. OSS isn't forbidden on Windows (at least, not yet <grin>), it's just MS's code you can't see.
In addition, all MS IDEs come with an "Application Wizard" which will build a basic app for you so you can pick through the code and see how the controls work. Just for chuckles, the one from Visual Basic 6 - possibly the most-used IDE MS have ever released - was, in fact, a simple text editor.
Some of them still are. I have done zero hours of actual work this week because of a certain newly-released game :-)
It's like music, or films, or just about any other creatively-based industry. 90% of the stuff produced is mass-market plasticised sugar-coated crap, but there's always that 10% left over that makes the whole process worthwhile - of course, my 10% might not be the same as your 10%...
I came to realize that PCs have started producing games that are fundamentally the same ones as the ones you get on consoles
Sometimes games are technically superior on the PC than they are on the consoles. There are also many I can't play without a mouse and keyboard (and not just Quake and friends, think Baldur's Gate 2 with all its keyboard shortcuts), which isn't an option on consoles at least AFAIK.
There are also some types of games - ones that you don't just pick up and play for ten minutes, basically - that I don't think are really suited to consoles at all. Equally, there are some games - usually ones involving dance mats, light guns, or other funky hardware - that I don't think work well on PCs.
YMMV, of course, but I think to achieve gaming nirvana you still need a console *and* a computer. Hopefully in five years this statement will no longer be true, but I've been hoping that for twenty years now and it hasn't happened yet.
Oh and 3- Computer games have become obscenely ressource-hungry,
I am in violent agreement with you on this one, but then I can remember saying the same thing in 1990 when I had to upgrade the memory in my Atari ST from 512k to 1Mb so I could play Powermonger. Irritatingly this sort of "push the boundaries by releasing a game that isn't quite runnable on the hardware available today" attitude only used to be taken by luminaries like Molyneux or Carmack (who could be forgiven, as they made up for it with the games they released), whereas now everyone seems to think all PC gamers have upwards of £2,000 to spend on hardware every year.
Personally my favourite game is still the original arcade version of Defender.
Web forums where you'll get lots of responses like "WTF OMG d00d j00 r so l4m3 4 wr1tng a g4me on M$ windoze LOL u sux0r".
I will name two others: Neteller and Firepay.
Neteller don't charge me for depositing into my account via BACS, nor do they charge me for sending money to merchants or other users. Pretty much everyone will charge you for depositing via a credit card, as it costs them more to process it (if they don't, they've built this extra into their margins and are making a fortune on deposits via other methods).
Maybe so, but there's an important difference between "spending 10+ hours a day commuting/working with a real job" and "spending an hour a week reading reports from your bots".
he likely could have been making $100,000 by the time he was 30 working for the other side without the risk.
It may also be worth considering how much he could have grown his botnet by the time he was 30, or what other (potentially less risky and more lucrative) illegal activities he could have funded with the profits.
A criminal lifestyle operates on a totally different risk:reward ratio to a legitimate one. This guy felt the risk was worth the reward, but it didn't work out for him.
*If police fear there might be serious violence in a particular area they can stop and search anyone in that area for up to 24 hours. In these circumstances the police do not need co have a reasonable suspicion that you are carrying a weapon or committing a crime. This very wide power can be used at raves, demonstrations etc.*
UK police have extensive stop-and-search powers, and don't even need a reasonable suspicion that an offence has been or is being committed. They have to fill out a dozen forms afterwards, but that's the only thing holding them back.
BBC news ran a couple of stories on this topic last weekend that may be of interest: here and here
The Home Office's stop-and-search guidance notes are here (PDF)
Yeah? Hmmmm.
Uh-oh.
I have just cut my shoes into little pieces with a pair of scissors and a Stanley knife. I can categorically state there is no chip in there, NSA-designed or otherwise.
BTW, does anyone know a good shoe shop? I need to buy a new pair.
> koat-Dok-wepht
Sorry, I don't recognise that spell.
What next?
> Aw-Uk-Ted-uld-Ac
Sorry, I don't recognise that spell.
What next?
> Nod-wac-Ib-Vawl
You summon a grue.
The grue eats you.
Your score was 0.
You cast 1 spell.
Play again?