Analogy fail. All three in your example took part in the planning and execution. That's conspiracy, aiding, abetting, or what ever you want to call it.
With the above joke the store owner should kick the person out but a citizen's arrest is just silly.
Make a mental note of the next time someone around you says they're going to do something to some one. "I'm so angry I could punch them!" It's a fairly common occurrence. It's called venting your anger.
People who sell guns are guilty of murder? People who sell cars are guilty of DUI? People who make airplane engines are guilty of9/11? Shouldn't we be locking up the parents of criminals since they made them?
That's all well and good right up to the point where they start being evil.
If Steam is so consumer friendly then please explain why you subscribe to games rather than purchase them? Why do they reserve the right to revoke said subscription at any time? If they're never going to be evil then they never need to take back what you paid for.
Then they are idiots. Steam is a horrible service. it's quite simply everything wrong with DRM. People should be up in arms about it. The terms of service clearly state that you are subscribing to a game and not buying. They also state that they may revoke access at any time. You have to ask permission to play what you paid for. If they go down you loose everything.
However they are easy and in some cases very inexpensive so people love them.
Academically interesting? Sure. Practical in any way? Not at all.
An overly complex system that would be a nightmare to implement. The chaos on voting day would be Epic. The education efforts alone would be insane. Which vote counts? Why am I voting twice? Is this my second vote or did the machine fuck up and I'm redoing my first vote?
Most importantly it's not just complexity it's pointless complexity. You lost track of the original point. If you can only print out one vote and you print out the fake vote then you have no way of verifying your real vote! This isn't a verification system this is purely an anti-coercion system.
We already have a bullet proof anti-coercion system. Lack of verification. The confidence has to be with the system. That's the problem with the voting machines in the states. If you have an open transparent system that can easily be policed, for example the current paper ballot system, then you don't need to verify each individual vote.
If you don't have a transparent voting system then you're past the point where ballot boxes will make a different.
So if someone in the marriage gets a vasectomy, gets a hysterectomy, uses birth control, or is found to be sterile you think the marriage should be dissolved?
Add having to install demos to the list. I've had a 360 for years and recently picked up a PS3. I downloaded a demo and then had to install it!? The install took about 10 minutes for a 1.2 GB demo.
Really Sony?
With the 360 you just download and play. There is no addition anything to be done.
Forcing your customer to walk away from the machine, as it's completely unusable during install, is a bad idea. They may find something better to do with their time.
If you bought points with the card before the account was stolen then they just have to hit X and grab points. It stores your card info.
Live charged my _expired_ credit card for a year of service. Took many calls with Live to accomplish nothing. I had to bring VISA in to eventually get it sorted out.
Lesson learned: Never ever never give Live your CC#. Buy pre-paid cards. Sometimes they're even on sale. Free money WooHoo! They're never on sale if you pay with a credit card.
First it's bonehead economics. At price point X you will have Y sales. As the cost drops more people are willing to aquire the good. As the cost rises people are less willing to aquire the good. Many many things downloaded are done because they are free not because they are trying to get things for free. At $5 they're just not interested in the item. There are people who download every single xbox game. They see no reason not to. Never in a million years were they ever going to buy cloudy with a chance of meatballs but for the price of a blank DL+R they'll check it out.
Second it's a logical fallacy. If paying less than max for a product is bad then sales are bad. Amazon is bad. Blockbuster, netflix, gamefly are all bad. Anything other than paying $30 for a DVD would be wrong.
Also I'd like to point out that it's not illegal. Possession of illegally made copies is not a crime. Making and/or distributing said copies is a crime.
Forcing others to pay for your printouts. Most definitely a crime. One which directly took money out of their pocket and put it in yours.
He didn't say anything about Halo being fun or not. Just that PC is a better platform for it. I agree for 2 reasons.
Mouse and keyboard is a better control system. Console controllers are gimp. At least 4 fingers are wasted simply holding it. That's if you use the horribly uncomfortable and unergonomic claw style. 6 otherwise.
Number of people in battle. On PC my team is often the same size or larger as the whole battle on console.
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Exactly.
The end result of this slippery slope is blaming auto workers for DUIs and airplane engine builders for 9/11.
Analogy fail. All three in your example took part in the planning and execution. That's conspiracy, aiding, abetting, or what ever you want to call it.
With the above joke the store owner should kick the person out but a citizen's arrest is just silly.
Make a mental note of the next time someone around you says they're going to do something to some one. "I'm so angry I could punch them!" It's a fairly common occurrence. It's called venting your anger.
Possessing dual use items is not a crime until you use it for an illegal use.
Owning a car let's you get drunk and drive it. Does that make the people who sell cars guilty of DUI? Accessory to DUI?
The cable industry bought some of the modem. Apparently they make good debug tools since you can do anything with them.
I think the idea is that the useless plastic turns into usable cash through the manipulation of people.
People who sell guns are guilty of murder?
People who sell cars are guilty of DUI?
People who make airplane engines are guilty of9/11?
Shouldn't we be locking up the parents of criminals since they made them?
Yes but only one hardcore pirate needs to break the DRM. Then it's trivial for newbs to download.
They want your friend list. With that they can target advertise them using your info and pictures.
*shrug* I've used it for exactly that reason many times.
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Why is Steam ok but Keychest isn't? They're the same exact product.
That's all well and good right up to the point where they start being evil.
If Steam is so consumer friendly then please explain why you subscribe to games rather than purchase them? Why do they reserve the right to revoke said subscription at any time? If they're never going to be evil then they never need to take back what you paid for.
Then they are idiots. Steam is a horrible service. it's quite simply everything wrong with DRM. People should be up in arms about it. The terms of service clearly state that you are subscribing to a game and not buying. They also state that they may revoke access at any time. You have to ask permission to play what you paid for. If they go down you loose everything.
However they are easy and in some cases very inexpensive so people love them.
Academically interesting? Sure. Practical in any way? Not at all.
An overly complex system that would be a nightmare to implement. The chaos on voting day would be Epic. The education efforts alone would be insane. Which vote counts? Why am I voting twice? Is this my second vote or did the machine fuck up and I'm redoing my first vote?
Most importantly it's not just complexity it's pointless complexity. You lost track of the original point. If you can only print out one vote and you print out the fake vote then you have no way of verifying your real vote! This isn't a verification system this is purely an anti-coercion system.
We already have a bullet proof anti-coercion system. Lack of verification. The confidence has to be with the system. That's the problem with the voting machines in the states. If you have an open transparent system that can easily be policed, for example the current paper ballot system, then you don't need to verify each individual vote.
If you don't have a transparent voting system then you're past the point where ballot boxes will make a different.
The first few generations of a machine have bugs that are sorted out in later revisions. Also known as humans make mistakes.
It's an engineering problem not a console problem.
Not always. Sony supports hard drive replacement. The PS3 manual has a section on how to upgrade your hard drive.
So if someone in the marriage gets a vasectomy, gets a hysterectomy, uses birth control, or is found to be sterile you think the marriage should be dissolved?
What about post menopause?
Add having to install demos to the list. I've had a 360 for years and recently picked up a PS3. I downloaded a demo and then had to install it!? The install took about 10 minutes for a 1.2 GB demo.
Really Sony?
With the 360 you just download and play. There is no addition anything to be done.
Forcing your customer to walk away from the machine, as it's completely unusable during install, is a bad idea. They may find something better to do with their time.
If you bought points with the card before the account was stolen then they just have to hit X and grab points. It stores your card info.
Live charged my _expired_ credit card for a year of service. Took many calls with Live to accomplish nothing. I had to bring VISA in to eventually get it sorted out.
Lesson learned: Never ever never give Live your CC#. Buy pre-paid cards. Sometimes they're even on sale. Free money WooHoo! They're never on sale if you pay with a credit card.
You can't modify the 360 enough to bot it. Especially over the network. You have no way of downloading payloads and it doesn't listen on any ports.
It has PC hardware but that doesn't make it a PC.
All capitalist economies slowly move toward monopoly. It's the perfect capitalist device. A monopoly maximizes profits and minimizes waste.
His huge cost is 13 console games. Over 4 years. What's the big deal?
What was his per hour cost on that WoW bill?
Ahh the download is a lost sale fallacy.
It's simply not true.
First it's bonehead economics. At price point X you will have Y sales. As the cost drops more people are willing to aquire the good. As the cost rises people are less willing to aquire the good. Many many things downloaded are done because they are free not because they are trying to get things for free. At $5 they're just not interested in the item. There are people who download every single xbox game. They see no reason not to. Never in a million years were they ever going to buy cloudy with a chance of meatballs but for the price of a blank DL+R they'll check it out.
Second it's a logical fallacy. If paying less than max for a product is bad then sales are bad. Amazon is bad. Blockbuster, netflix, gamefly are all bad. Anything other than paying $30 for a DVD would be wrong.
Also I'd like to point out that it's not illegal. Possession of illegally made copies is not a crime. Making and/or distributing said copies is a crime.
Forcing others to pay for your printouts. Most definitely a crime. One which directly took money out of their pocket and put it in yours.
He didn't say anything about Halo being fun or not. Just that PC is a better platform for it. I agree for 2 reasons.
Mouse and keyboard is a better control system. Console controllers are gimp. At least 4 fingers are wasted simply holding it. That's if you use the horribly uncomfortable and unergonomic claw style. 6 otherwise.
Number of people in battle. On PC my team is often the same size or larger as the whole battle on console.
CCP has stated they have no plans for combat in stations at this time. They want battles faught in space.
Amen. I had the same problem with the 360 and a tube television. The text in some games was unreadable. Dead Rising I'm looking at you.
Straw man.
*plonk*