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The Windows/Linux-on-two-partitions trick also works for dual hard-drives. Take an existing Windows machine, add a hard-drive, install Linux to it, and make a boot floppy (so there's no Lilo configuration issues - sometimes Lilo can be difficult, and I wanted something easy enough for my 8-year-old to handle).
What a fun thread! It collects nuts faster than a herd of squirrels!
Ne-e-ext? Who's next? Hey, why doesn't somebody post a claim that Bill Gates founded America, Osama Bin Laden invented Linux, and anybody who says different is a terrorist? If Bush isn't on your side - write a letter and *get* him there!
Hee...yuck, no, wait, there it is in the Bible right there: Genesis chapter 1:8: "And on the eighth day, Bill created the command line. And the people looked upon it and said it was good, except the Penguin, who sneaked off and proceeded to usurp God^H^H^HBill's command prompt look and feel. Through a PR boondoggle, history did become re-written in the other way around. The people responsible were sacked, as the Lord God Bill raised up his holy bundle-o-hundreds and smote them..."
a copy of Windows then, because my computer hasn't had a BSOD in about 6 months.
You're right. Windows is the pinacle of excellence in operating systems for all time. Every single failure ever attributed to Windows is a viscious rumor, it never even crashed in beta. Bill Gates richly deserves to own the entire planet and everybody on it, and to force everybody else to run his op system and his exclusively.
I'll go contact the 537,861 online sources that have claimed that Windows ever had any flaw and demand that they expunge this hideous untruth immediately. It's a complete fantasy that I made up.
Looking forward to Bill Gates' inventing the command line (now why didn't *we* think of that!),
sincerely...
These sites all appear to have similar concepts. Don't worry, folks, I'm sure the Meatloafers will be busy guffawing in mulish fashion as they forward the house/UI anology to your inbox for the next ten years after it's no longer funnny.
Let's ask somebody who currently runs a dual-boot system with Linux/Windows sharing the same box, shall we? Cuz that's what I do. With versions of each released within weeks of each other.
So these people saw two pillars of the superiority of Linux (speed and stability) snatched away from them.
Hee hee haw haw, WHEN? My Windows drive *still* crawls like a mummy booting up, IE *still* takes a coon's age to find a webpage, and the only reason I'm spared my weekly ritual of staying up all night with Windows picking the malware out of it is that I could automate the process from Linux with Bash shell scripts, accessing Windows as a mounted vfat partition!
Read through any anti-MS slashdot article on any given day and count the number of horribly outdated criticisms of Microsoft you see (BSOD's; bloat; Clippy(!))
I have no idea what color the sky is in your world, but *every* copy of Windows *still* BSOD's on a regular basis. What's gone are those "(A)bort, (R)etry, (F)ail?" prompts, because Windows crib-deathed DOS. Bloat...count the megabytes on a Windows partition and a Linux partition. Look at the footprints. Case closed. And "Clippy" still comes with Microslop products, being sold on shelves today!
- as a passionate believer in F/OSS,
Don't lie, you hate F/OSS and it shows...
it really grieves me to see people behaving like this, rather than aiming to improve Linux to the state where it once again has many advantages over Windows.
Gee, the huge development teams behind the dozens of major Linux distros sure are sorry that they can't come up to your high standards! Like still being free, still being open source, still being able to run on a wider variety of hardware, not using Mafioso tactics to try to bully the whole world into paying them money to use their software, coming with more programs for free than you can possibly buy for Windows with all the money in the world, having system documentation that's actually helpful, coming in a hundred different flavors/varieties/distributions to suit every taste (I wouldn't mind a "Windows from scratch distro!"), and finally...what's now coming into bearing as Linux-user's newest gain to crow about, actually being *easier* to install and configure than Windows is: as anybody will plainly see, installing Windows and Linux cold on the bare iron, as opposed to naively running the first piece of software that they had installed at the computer store for them.
But that's just off the top of my hat. Yeah, dude, you're right, we're all a bunch of Amish, backwards Luddites living in the past...
This shall never come to pass, at least, not as it sounds. MS had DOS in the first place, DOS has always lurked in the back-ground, and now they're saying they'll just quit crib-deathing it. Too late: The Linux command line is based on a whole menagerie of little programs that have evolved over a course of 50 years. DOS has been basically a single program with all of ten user commands or so, no command recall so you have to re-type everything, and *even* *less* security than the Windows desktop.
No way, impossible, never in a thousand kalpas, even if we liscenced Debian Woody to them and bussed over a truckload of OS coders to help, would they *ever* grasp the most fundamental concepts of a CLI. There's only so much you can train monkeys to do, even rich ones.
Is meatloaf. Meatloaf is non-commercial unsolicited email, the BS you get from people who claim to know you personally.
Your average meatloafer:
Has an attention span 1/100 th that of a housefly. "Don't send that to me!" "OK", says the meatloafer, clicking the send button.
Believes *everything* they read online, nothing that they don't read online, and forwards The Truth to your inbox. "Look, a new virus alert! Panic! Panic! Uh..bzzzzt!...what was I talking about?"
Is the only creature in existence with a negative IQ score whose absolute value is in the triple digits. This is reflected in their taste in crappy humor, and disgusting porn. Never once do they find a *good* joke, or porn that actually would fit any description of sexy. But you're getting every single picture of a thousand-pound woman eating ice-cream out-of-the-drum while nude, if the meatloafer has to click until their fingers bleed.
Never types, and possibly doesn't even own a keyboard. Never sleeps, possibly doesn't even have a job, although, surprisingly, shares their trailer park with the usual inbred family, and of course, has procreated.
Forwards *everything*, no reading. The average meatloafer sees their role in life as that of a piece of plumbing. Email is to be sent Somewhere Else, even bounce messages redirected through a re-mailer get resent. Meatloafer's emails, with all the included content from before, tend to get longer than a dictionary.
I'm just pointing out, Spam may be bad, but Meatloafers are just as bad, and if you deal with these people any less harshly than chopping their mouse hand off, you're part of the problem. Early on, I set up a no-meatloaf policy for myself, and it cut down drastically on the number of viruses I recieved, even on Win-Blows.
Do you know a meatloafer? Don't try to reason with them, your letter will just launch into the great foreward loop unread. Block them. Complain. Send them a mail-bomb. It is your civic duty. These are also the people supporting...spam! Think about it, would spam continue if nobody *ever* clicked the free Viagra offer? So who do you think is doing it?
And that's just it. I love Linux. I use Linux. I'm absolutely ecstatic about my unpopular little operating system just the way it is. If I want anything new added to it, I'll snarf tarballs online or write the code myself. If Linux never gained another user for the rest of my life, that'd be OK with me.
What wouldn't be OK is if every idiot in the world started using Linux. It would go downhill, sort of like what happened to the internet when the rest of these people showed up. I'm praying that MS and all the AOLers switch to cell-phones (they're getting to where they can play games and IM, and they'd be impossible to hack on, which would make them ideal, and that's all most meatloafers want to do on the internet, anyway) and computers go back to being the toys of geeks, exclusively. The Linux of today with the internet of 1992 would be heaven, and they could just keep it that way!
Thanks, McAfee, but I was removing my own virii back when I was stuck with a 'Dose box. McAfee for Linux strikes me as about as good a protection as putting the colored rocks on my chakras to balance them.
The bot in the picture looks smaller than one of my model cars. I don't see it becoming very powerful anytime, soon. Yes, "size doesn't matter", but does matter in this case because the bigger the bot, the bigger bot (and other devices) it can build.
I certainly hope they've figured this one out, but if not, I'll repeat it here: Robots do not have to carry their "brains" on board. Just have them "download" their instructions from one central hub, which can then be easily re-programmed/de-bugged without recalling every unit.
Seriously, don't *anybody* even let this one slip to the US military. Shhhhh! If you don't want to see the entire planet burned black by self-replicating tanks and bombers, don't even tell the US Gov that these things exist. Especially not if you have oil.
Ahem*! Unless you want to be stuck with the invariably boring templates the blogsite has to offer, you *do* have to know HTML, and will prefer a site that understands most of it.
The point is that once you get the page set up how you like it, you just dump text in on the fly. Really not much different from having a regular web-page with a very smart CGI script embedded, but with free hosting.
One rarely sees an idea as rotten as this one...let me count the ways...
As insipid as professional radio stations are already, I now should trust the taste of the total stranger three car lengths ahead of me?
As little as the average j*ck-off who cannot get off his/her cell phone pays attention to driving, they now will be managing their own radio station as well?
What if somebody's broadcasting gets really popular? Can you picture a herd of cars following them and jockeying for closer spots? On and off freeways?
Nah, I don't think "drive-by live blogging" is quite ready for prime-time, yet. I already get too much of an idea what other people consider to be worth listening to when we all have our windows down in the spring.
Cloning, stem cell research, and genetics. Just stay clear of the USA, and lead the march in another country to lead the human race to immortality. Let Fascitheocracies die of old age and get out of your way.
Pink plastic lawn ornament flamingo futures are up...Up...UP!!! And sales of "Billy the singing trout" are making cash registers ring this Holiday season.
Microsoft Computer Expert quoted: "Yes, we have platinum year-round passes to all matches by the WWF until 2025, a life-time subscription to Weekly World News, and I send money to a guy in Vegas who's guaranteeing he can net me a 90% return on investment with his Martingale betting method."
When asked what, at a company like Microsoft, qualified him to be a "computer expert", he responded: "I'm the one who doesn't yell into the mouse."
In the 25+ years of being a geek, I've seen a zillion attempts to restrict my computing freedom fail. I can rebuild my own hardware. I can program my own software. About the only thing I can't do is mine the raw silicon out of the soil and forge my own chips.
Meanwhile, I've seen a zillion attempts to restrict my computing freedom backfire and blow up in the perpetrator's face. This will, in the end, be just one more bug to program around.
From personal experience, I can say: "Nothing!" There is nothing you can do. You are in the minority, in a world of ignorance, sloth, delusion, avarice, and apathy. You couldn't teach these cows anything if their lives depended on it.
The entire notion of open source, open books, open minds at all is deleterious to the entire capitalist system. Remember that, in order to make a profit in a capitalist system, you have to offer a skill or service that the average person can not/will not do for themselves. There are two ways to create a new market for a new business: either restrict the general public from doing something, thus forcing them to pay specialists to do it for them (Car insurance laws, for example. Time used to be when you were financially responsible for yourself.), or make up a "skill" out of complete thin air, and market it so it's importance is over-emphasized (feng-shui).
Computers offer the rare property of being fertile ground for both kinds of deception at the same time. You can pass laws against the open viewing of source code and criminalize those who try to see it anyway as hackers; and you can then build on the resulting ignorance infringed on the population by convincing them that computers are run by voodoo pins, eyes of newts, snake oil, and virgin goat's blood, and require a special high priest to cast runes and sacrifice bats to make them go.
Now run into the middle of this yelling, "It's easy and harmless to program your own computer; a little child could do it!" How to get them to be more receptive to your message? I don't know. Maybe you should try something easier, like convince nuns to take up street walking.
Finally, Microsoft is going to go back to picking on MacIntosh for awhile! Gee, thanks, Apples, we Penguins have been sucking up the bullets for way too many melee rounds - time to kick back in the igloo and recuperate!
They're going to get together and play a video game for three days that simulates an attack. In other words, they're going to get innovative by using an idea from a 1980's movie. No wonder they're at the mercy of every W00t 133t script kiddie who comes along...
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The Windows/Linux-on-two-partitions trick also works for dual hard-drives. Take an existing Windows machine, add a hard-drive, install Linux to it, and make a boot floppy (so there's no Lilo configuration issues - sometimes Lilo can be difficult, and I wanted something easy enough for my 8-year-old to handle).
Ne-e-ext? Who's next? Hey, why doesn't somebody post a claim that Bill Gates founded America, Osama Bin Laden invented Linux, and anybody who says different is a terrorist? If Bush isn't on your side - write a letter and *get* him there!
Hee...yuck, no, wait, there it is in the Bible right there: Genesis chapter 1:8: "And on the eighth day, Bill created the command line. And the people looked upon it and said it was good, except the Penguin, who sneaked off and proceeded to usurp God^H^H^HBill's command prompt look and feel. Through a PR boondoggle, history did become re-written in the other way around. The people responsible were sacked, as the Lord God Bill raised up his holy bundle-o-hundreds and smote them..."
You're right. Windows is the pinacle of excellence in operating systems for all time. Every single failure ever attributed to Windows is a viscious rumor, it never even crashed in beta. Bill Gates richly deserves to own the entire planet and everybody on it, and to force everybody else to run his op system and his exclusively.
I'll go contact the 537,861 online sources that have claimed that Windows ever had any flaw and demand that they expunge this hideous untruth immediately. It's a complete fantasy that I made up.
Looking forward to Bill Gates' inventing the command line (now why didn't *we* think of that!), sincerely...
Be sure to hold a grudge against me for the rest of your life about it!
http://www.rha.com/ui_hall_of_shame.htm
http://www.pixelcentric.net/x-shame/
http://www.raizlabs.com/interface/hall-of-shame/de fault.asp
These sites all appear to have similar concepts. Don't worry, folks, I'm sure the Meatloafers will be busy guffawing in mulish fashion as they forward the house/UI anology to your inbox for the next ten years after it's no longer funnny.
So these people saw two pillars of the superiority of Linux (speed and stability) snatched away from them.
Hee hee haw haw, WHEN? My Windows drive *still* crawls like a mummy booting up, IE *still* takes a coon's age to find a webpage, and the only reason I'm spared my weekly ritual of staying up all night with Windows picking the malware out of it is that I could automate the process from Linux with Bash shell scripts, accessing Windows as a mounted vfat partition!
Read through any anti-MS slashdot article on any given day and count the number of horribly outdated criticisms of Microsoft you see (BSOD's; bloat; Clippy(!))
I have no idea what color the sky is in your world, but *every* copy of Windows *still* BSOD's on a regular basis. What's gone are those "(A)bort, (R)etry, (F)ail?" prompts, because Windows crib-deathed DOS. Bloat...count the megabytes on a Windows partition and a Linux partition. Look at the footprints. Case closed. And "Clippy" still comes with Microslop products, being sold on shelves today!
- as a passionate believer in F/OSS,
Don't lie, you hate F/OSS and it shows...
it really grieves me to see people behaving like this, rather than aiming to improve Linux to the state where it once again has many advantages over Windows.
Gee, the huge development teams behind the dozens of major Linux distros sure are sorry that they can't come up to your high standards! Like still being free, still being open source, still being able to run on a wider variety of hardware, not using Mafioso tactics to try to bully the whole world into paying them money to use their software, coming with more programs for free than you can possibly buy for Windows with all the money in the world, having system documentation that's actually helpful, coming in a hundred different flavors/varieties/distributions to suit every taste (I wouldn't mind a "Windows from scratch distro!"), and finally...what's now coming into bearing as Linux-user's newest gain to crow about, actually being *easier* to install and configure than Windows is: as anybody will plainly see, installing Windows and Linux cold on the bare iron, as opposed to naively running the first piece of software that they had installed at the computer store for them.
But that's just off the top of my hat. Yeah, dude, you're right, we're all a bunch of Amish, backwards Luddites living in the past...
No way, impossible, never in a thousand kalpas, even if we liscenced Debian Woody to them and bussed over a truckload of OS coders to help, would they *ever* grasp the most fundamental concepts of a CLI. There's only so much you can train monkeys to do, even rich ones.
Your average meatloafer:
Has an attention span 1/100 th that of a housefly. "Don't send that to me!" "OK", says the meatloafer, clicking the send button.
Believes *everything* they read online, nothing that they don't read online, and forwards The Truth to your inbox. "Look, a new virus alert! Panic! Panic! Uh..bzzzzt!...what was I talking about?"
Is the only creature in existence with a negative IQ score whose absolute value is in the triple digits. This is reflected in their taste in crappy humor, and disgusting porn. Never once do they find a *good* joke, or porn that actually would fit any description of sexy. But you're getting every single picture of a thousand-pound woman eating ice-cream out-of-the-drum while nude, if the meatloafer has to click until their fingers bleed.
Never types, and possibly doesn't even own a keyboard. Never sleeps, possibly doesn't even have a job, although, surprisingly, shares their trailer park with the usual inbred family, and of course, has procreated.
Forwards *everything*, no reading. The average meatloafer sees their role in life as that of a piece of plumbing. Email is to be sent Somewhere Else, even bounce messages redirected through a re-mailer get resent. Meatloafer's emails, with all the included content from before, tend to get longer than a dictionary.
I'm just pointing out, Spam may be bad, but Meatloafers are just as bad, and if you deal with these people any less harshly than chopping their mouse hand off, you're part of the problem. Early on, I set up a no-meatloaf policy for myself, and it cut down drastically on the number of viruses I recieved, even on Win-Blows.
Do you know a meatloafer? Don't try to reason with them, your letter will just launch into the great foreward loop unread. Block them. Complain. Send them a mail-bomb. It is your civic duty. These are also the people supporting...spam! Think about it, would spam continue if nobody *ever* clicked the free Viagra offer? So who do you think is doing it?
And that's just it. I love Linux. I use Linux. I'm absolutely ecstatic about my unpopular little operating system just the way it is. If I want anything new added to it, I'll snarf tarballs online or write the code myself. If Linux never gained another user for the rest of my life, that'd be OK with me.
What wouldn't be OK is if every idiot in the world started using Linux. It would go downhill, sort of like what happened to the internet when the rest of these people showed up. I'm praying that MS and all the AOLers switch to cell-phones (they're getting to where they can play games and IM, and they'd be impossible to hack on, which would make them ideal, and that's all most meatloafers want to do on the internet, anyway) and computers go back to being the toys of geeks, exclusively. The Linux of today with the internet of 1992 would be heaven, and they could just keep it that way!
Thanks, McAfee, but I was removing my own virii back when I was stuck with a 'Dose box. McAfee for Linux strikes me as about as good a protection as putting the colored rocks on my chakras to balance them.
QUIT submitting content-free fluff PHB-fodder to Slashdot, already! This is NOT Wired!
Personally, I never download a demo until the CSM gives it four crosses or better.
I certainly hope they've figured this one out, but if not, I'll repeat it here: Robots do not have to carry their "brains" on board. Just have them "download" their instructions from one central hub, which can then be easily re-programmed/de-bugged without recalling every unit.
Seriously, don't *anybody* even let this one slip to the US military. Shhhhh! If you don't want to see the entire planet burned black by self-replicating tanks and bombers, don't even tell the US Gov that these things exist. Especially not if you have oil.
The point is that once you get the page set up how you like it, you just dump text in on the fly. Really not much different from having a regular web-page with a very smart CGI script embedded, but with free hosting.
So there's no software; ten thousand lines of Lisp code, that sucker *will* wake up and conquor Earth!
As insipid as professional radio stations are already, I now should trust the taste of the total stranger three car lengths ahead of me?
As little as the average j*ck-off who cannot get off his/her cell phone pays attention to driving, they now will be managing their own radio station as well?
What if somebody's broadcasting gets really popular? Can you picture a herd of cars following them and jockeying for closer spots? On and off freeways?
Nah, I don't think "drive-by live blogging" is quite ready for prime-time, yet. I already get too much of an idea what other people consider to be worth listening to when we all have our windows down in the spring.
If that's so, I wonder what would happen if any of their employees donated to the Free Software Foundation just to yank their chain...
Cloning, stem cell research, and genetics. Just stay clear of the USA, and lead the march in another country to lead the human race to immortality. Let Fascitheocracies die of old age and get out of your way.
Microsoft Computer Expert quoted: "Yes, we have platinum year-round passes to all matches by the WWF until 2025, a life-time subscription to Weekly World News, and I send money to a guy in Vegas who's guaranteeing he can net me a 90% return on investment with his Martingale betting method."
When asked what, at a company like Microsoft, qualified him to be a "computer expert", he responded: "I'm the one who doesn't yell into the mouse."
Meanwhile, I've seen a zillion attempts to restrict my computing freedom backfire and blow up in the perpetrator's face. This will, in the end, be just one more bug to program around.
Or until anybody who gives a fig about freedom bails out of the US, which has started happening already!
The entire notion of open source, open books, open minds at all is deleterious to the entire capitalist system. Remember that, in order to make a profit in a capitalist system, you have to offer a skill or service that the average person can not/will not do for themselves. There are two ways to create a new market for a new business: either restrict the general public from doing something, thus forcing them to pay specialists to do it for them (Car insurance laws, for example. Time used to be when you were financially responsible for yourself.), or make up a "skill" out of complete thin air, and market it so it's importance is over-emphasized (feng-shui).
Computers offer the rare property of being fertile ground for both kinds of deception at the same time. You can pass laws against the open viewing of source code and criminalize those who try to see it anyway as hackers; and you can then build on the resulting ignorance infringed on the population by convincing them that computers are run by voodoo pins, eyes of newts, snake oil, and virgin goat's blood, and require a special high priest to cast runes and sacrifice bats to make them go.
Now run into the middle of this yelling, "It's easy and harmless to program your own computer; a little child could do it!" How to get them to be more receptive to your message? I don't know. Maybe you should try something easier, like convince nuns to take up street walking.
Finally, Microsoft is going to go back to picking on MacIntosh for awhile! Gee, thanks, Apples, we Penguins have been sucking up the bullets for way too many melee rounds - time to kick back in the igloo and recuperate!
They're going to get together and play a video game for three days that simulates an attack. In other words, they're going to get innovative by using an idea from a 1980's movie. No wonder they're at the mercy of every W00t 133t script kiddie who comes along...
So what's IE's excuse when Netscape *isn't* installed?