Yeah, I'd agree there's plenty of room for both at home, work, or any fixed-connection setting, but for mobile use I'll take downloaded-and-stored over streamed-and-cached any day of the week.
With a cache of a spotify stream, for instance, will it be possible to tell how much music you have cached up in reserve? What happens when the next hour+ leg of your journey is through the countryside with bairly a 2g GSM signal, let alone a 3G signal, and your backup cache runs out? Sod that. Plus, that's not even considering the total inefficiency of streaming the same content over and over again, why not just download it once?
To answer the article's question: I can't see myself streaming music to my portable player anytime soon. Capacity is high enough to be plenty for a trip of pretty much any length, storage is cheap, and mobile internet access is patchy at best. Whilst on the move, I'll take my locally stored, decent bit-rate, painstakingly tagged audio, cheers.
Stream to find. Once found, buy, download, store, archive. Then use as you wish. (You could even do it in that order, if you were so inclined)
If I had to guess, I'd say his computer is about 5 or maybe 6 years old. Up until 3 weeks ago, I was still running a 2.8Ghz P4, happily sat in a trusty ol' i875 board. I bought that chip in 2004.
Throw gigabytes of ram and a modern graphics card into a computer, and suddenly it becomes apparent that the processor is really not the bottleneck.
I did my whole CS degree on that rig, and not once did I ever think; 'shit, you know what I need, another core...' .
The money I wouldve had to spend on a new CPU-MB-RAM-GFX combo, I used to buy more monitors instead.
Skynet could end up ensuring that it never gets created.
Funny you should mention that. Whilst watching T2 the other day with some friends, we were taking a little trip on the Time-Travel-Paradox line, and came up with this little nugget:
If in the original film, the 1st Terminator sent back had indeed completed it's mission and killed Sarah Connor, then that would have ensured Skynet never gets/will be created.
Sarah Connor dies before crushing metal motherfucker #1.
Chip never gets found.
Cyberdyne in 1991 never get to perform their research.
Skynet doesn't get developed.
Obviously wont become Self-Aware, as it doesn't exist.
Okay, first things first:
We did vote GB in, If you read up on UK election law, youâ(TM)ll more than likely find that you vote for the party, and the party chooses its leader, who becomes prime minister. Basically, you vote for the party you want to represent you, and they choose from their ranks someone to do just that. And since labour was voted in, we get a labour prime minister for the duration of the term.
Secondly, the alternative at the moment is infinitely worse, in the shape of a vapid, bandwagon jumping Eatonian and his gang of old boy chronies. I have absolutely no doubts whatsoever that given the chance, the conservatives would be pulling this bullshit only on a larger scale. And if you disagree, please read into their treatment of dissenting voices during the 80â(TM)s, i.e. strikers/protesters. Not to mention the fact that these muppets have not a single coherent policy to say for themselves.
Change for changes sake is not necessarily a good thing. Iâ(TM)m as fucked off as the next guy with the string of BS coming out of downing street at the moment. The list is seemingly never ending, involving data security, the fucking hilarious âdigital Britain reportâ(TM), the constant CCTV camera coverage, and ridiculous policy after ridiculous policy, but Iâ(TM)m also certain that things would get a lot worse under conservative government. Privatisation of things that shouldnâ(TM)t be privatised (read NHS), taxation policies designed to keep rich people rich, and loose regulation for companies are all things this country really doesnâ(TM)t need, and would be instigated in a heartbeat.
Basically, iâ(TM)m fairly certain weâ(TM)re fucked either way, and iâ(TM)m moving to Scandinavia...
I'd be willing to bet this article is a joke. Taco, kdawson, timothy and the rest of them had a bet, to see if we'd actually read and discuss the article.
Now they're all sitting around, smoking cigars and belly laughing, contemplating when the circle jerk is going to begin. 'Cos it turns out they win, and we lose.
Shit, I'm embarrased I even clicked on the article. 200 Comments? Christ, we should collectively have a word with ourselves, cos this is ridiculous.
This isn't a story, it's not news, it fuckin retarded, end of...
We could also do with the big distro vendors getting on to device and peripheral manufacturers about drivers.
I've tried to switch a number of times in that last 2 to 3 years, whilst i still have the time and inclination to learn, but each time i've had to return to windows pretty much full time, and run linux in a nice tidy little virtual box VM, beacuse half (almost literally) the stuff I (and many others) use with my computer just doesnt function. Dont get me wrong, if i only wanted to web browse, edit, listen to music and watch video, then it would almost certainly have replaced windows on my machines, but thats not all people do on their computers...
I'm not talking about exotic, out-of-this-world-mega-hardware, i just mean things like mobile phones, any mouse purchased post 2004 with more than 3 buttons, TV cards, sound cards, printers, and dual head graphics. The state of affairs is still such that I (yes, I know it may be different for others...) cant sync tasks or transfer music to my phone, print a map or watch TV using my hardware. Nevermind getting things to output on 2 monitors, which was just a whole host of unpleasentness. All of which makes switching impossible, for me and I'm sure many others.
Sure, you can try one of the myriad work arounds and fixes on forums, but they rarely if ever work properly. So, whilst the software is important, I'm convinced that it's availability of native drivers for common consumer hardware that is more important than the current version of photoshop...
Until linux drivers are as common as mac drivers, i.e. available in the box, or alongside the other 2 on the drivers download page, people just wont be confident enough to switch. Or at least people like me. And im a feckin CS student for christ sake. Sadly, claims that your hardware will 'just work' are way, way off...
I'm not sure why I'm compelled to comment here, usually i'd just let this go, but something in this (Rakishi's) comment really pissed me off. It might be the block caps, it might be because it's 4 a-fecking-m, but seriously, whats your problem?
The guy was suggesting something that may have helped him avoid shitting away 2 years of his life, explain to me please how that's selfish? If an addiction warning lable could have helped him, then odds are, it would have helped someone else, and if not, then really no harm done and who gives a shit, eh?
It's utterly selfish because it's only based on what you think would keep you from getting addicted and not even what is capable of getting you addicted. Not quite sure I understand this sentence. It quite clearly was/is capable of getting him and others addicted, and of course its based on what he thinks would help him, what else was he gonna suggest?
Basically, as far as I can tell, warning lables on addictive shit is a good idea. Be it gambling/wow, whatever. People dropping their lives, cash, home, jobs, family or anything else for that matter on this stuff is good for neither them nor society in general, and any reduction of it is fine by me.
Off topic, but if you need a quick way of getting round that pesky MSN blocking exe's and zips thing, i find renaming it to say 'inoccuousfile.jpg' then sending it and renaming at the other end, seems to work a treat....
Without wanting to sound combative or hostile, I wonder how much you actually used win9x era operating systems. Even on arguably the most obvious point, the UI, there have been massive improvements, such as the context sensitive stuff, thumbnails in directories (not seen in 95/98), useful tooltips etc etc.
Next, they 2000/XP (not sure about vista) handles things like DLL's, which, if I understand it correctly are now managed dynamically, with each application using its own. As opposed to back in the 'good' old days, where applications would and could fuck about with DLL's breaking both the OS and Apps on occasions.
Then, you have the big one, hardware management. Things like USB drives, CD drives, cameras, printers, whatever, were sometimes nightmarish to set up.
Basically, my point is, in my opinion ease of use of computers has improved beyond measure, and the RAM and CPU cycle cost is more than worth it.
Try messenger plus to get tabs in windows live messenger, works a treat for me. It also some nice scripts, and a nice 'contacts on the desktop' feature. It installs over the top of the standard windows live client.
I just feel the need to vent and complain about how every decent action film has to be subjected to this kind of crap.
There are so many films I have to pretend don't exist just to stay sane.
The usual list here:
Aliens: should've stopped at 2. From the highly shit crash landing on a prison planet, all the way up to that mother alien having her head sucked out of the window, Alien 3 and 4 sucked arse. Properly shambolic films. An alien film needs suspense, or marines with pulse rifles, i'll take either, i'm not fussy. Robocop: should've stopped at 1. AvP: Complete train wreck of a film. The matrix: Now, they really could've done without fucking up that film, it was great, but now somehow, it just seems a bit shit thanks to the vast turds that were numbers 2 and 3 completely ruining everything. Star-wars, obviously the main offender in this category with those 3 abortions.
The one I thought had got away with it, and made a decent stab at number 3 was Terminator. Sure the 'terminatrix' was a bit shit, but there had obviously been a bit of time and effort put into the script, showing how an anonymous mess of a human being got to be in charge of the resistance, finishing quite well.
Assuming this story is true, and eventually comes to fruition, I'm going to hope against the odds that it's not a shameless cluster-fuck off a film, cashing in on the good work done previously by others.
Also, what happened to really fucking good action films, eh? Reading down the 'news' part of TFA's publishing site, I see Indian Jones, Star Wars and Terminator mentioned in the headlines. When did the film producing monkeys lose the ability to make decent films, instead of re-hashing good stuff from decades ago?
Something like Die Hard, or Aliens, films that weren't complete wank? I'm struggling, and the only half decent stuff I can come up with is the Bourne series, which are great, and as previously mentioned, the Matrix.
Oh, for the record, comic book movies aren't the answer, you can take spider man 3 and shove it up your arse for all I care.
Maybe the 'Printed Word' industry saw what would happen if the turned their content electrical.
Instead of going to a bookshop, and reading a few pages or the back cover blurbs of a number of books, people would end up simply downloading a copy onto a PDA/ebook reader or their computers, and end up, at best, buying only a small percentage of those books.
I know this is what happens with films, use the pre-release torrents, find out if the film/tv show is worth watching, and if so, add it to your collection of legit, paid for entertainment.
The actual 'owning' of a physical book/DVD, whatever, will never be replaced, but with free, easily obtainable copies of stuff all over the place, weeding out the crap is a lot easier.
Holy crap, in the last 3 days on slashdot, I've read stories repoting with problems with your (U.S.) police force, youre election system, and now your 'free press'.
I have to ask, what the fuck is going on in your country, and how much more will you have to see to do something about it??? Your apathy is not only going to cost you, but the rest of the globe as well.
I dont get it, maybe im being naeive, but if the majority of people dont want something, in this case, electronic voting, how do you let it get imposed upon on you??
You voted in these muppets, they're supposed to be there to serve you, not impose their own will on the public. If you dont like what they're doing, do something about it, let them know you wont be voting for them again if they keep this shit up. Fucking have a protest vote, do something....
Apologies in advance if this offends anyone
From what I've read on the subject, exit polls have a very small (1% or so) margin of error.
Exit polls are one of the things used to determine whether or not election fraud has occured in third world countries, and was even used to convict a someone running in the US of election tampering.
And penalties is no way in the world to decide a game - what a joke.
I reckon penalties is am excellenet way to decide a game. Testing skill, nerves and still involving a modicum of luck, exactly like the previous 120 minutes did.
Thats the fucked up thing, we were never expected to just go out and buy the album 'blind'.
There was always radio (but thats just shit these days), and i remember when MTV and MTV2 used to play actual music.....
Or, you could get a copy from a friend, usually on tape, but well, if it was good enough then shelling out a tenner for the album was perfectly acceptable.
Its sad that im recalling 'good old days', and im only 24......
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Yeah, I'd agree there's plenty of room for both at home, work, or any fixed-connection setting, but for mobile use I'll take downloaded-and-stored over streamed-and-cached any day of the week.
With a cache of a spotify stream, for instance, will it be possible to tell how much music you have cached up in reserve? What happens when the next hour+ leg of your journey is through the countryside with bairly a 2g GSM signal, let alone a 3G signal, and your backup cache runs out?
Sod that. Plus, that's not even considering the total inefficiency of streaming the same content over and over again, why not just download it once?
To answer the article's question: I can't see myself streaming music to my portable player anytime soon. Capacity is high enough to be plenty for a trip of pretty much any length, storage is cheap, and mobile internet access is patchy at best. Whilst on the move, I'll take my locally stored, decent bit-rate, painstakingly tagged audio, cheers.
Stream to find.
Once found, buy, download, store, archive. Then use as you wish. (You could even do it in that order, if you were so inclined)
If I had to guess, I'd say his computer is about 5 or maybe 6 years old. Up until 3 weeks ago, I was still running a 2.8Ghz P4, happily sat in a trusty ol' i875 board. I bought that chip in 2004.
Throw gigabytes of ram and a modern graphics card into a computer, and suddenly it becomes apparent that the processor is really not the bottleneck.
I did my whole CS degree on that rig, and not once did I ever think; 'shit, you know what I need, another core...' .
The money I wouldve had to spend on a new CPU-MB-RAM-GFX combo, I used to buy more monitors instead.
Skynet could end up ensuring that it never gets created.
Funny you should mention that. Whilst watching T2 the other day with some friends, we were taking a little trip on the Time-Travel-Paradox line, and came up with this little nugget:
If in the original film, the 1st Terminator sent back had indeed completed it's mission and killed Sarah Connor, then that would have ensured Skynet never gets/will be created.
Okay, first things first:
We did vote GB in, If you read up on UK election law, youâ(TM)ll more than likely find that you vote for the party, and the party chooses its leader, who becomes prime minister. Basically, you vote for the party you want to represent you, and they choose from their ranks someone to do just that. And since labour was voted in, we get a labour prime minister for the duration of the term.
Secondly, the alternative at the moment is infinitely worse, in the shape of a vapid, bandwagon jumping Eatonian and his gang of old boy chronies. I have absolutely no doubts whatsoever that given the chance, the conservatives would be pulling this bullshit only on a larger scale. And if you disagree, please read into their treatment of dissenting voices during the 80â(TM)s, i.e. strikers/protesters. Not to mention the fact that these muppets have not a single coherent policy to say for themselves.
Change for changes sake is not necessarily a good thing. Iâ(TM)m as fucked off as the next guy with the string of BS coming out of downing street at the moment. The list is seemingly never ending, involving data security, the fucking hilarious âdigital Britain reportâ(TM), the constant CCTV camera coverage, and ridiculous policy after ridiculous policy, but Iâ(TM)m also certain that things would get a lot worse under conservative government. Privatisation of things that shouldnâ(TM)t be privatised (read NHS), taxation policies designed to keep rich people rich, and loose regulation for companies are all things this country really doesnâ(TM)t need, and would be instigated in a heartbeat.
Basically, iâ(TM)m fairly certain weâ(TM)re fucked either way, and iâ(TM)m moving to Scandinavia...
I'd be willing to bet this article is a joke. Taco, kdawson, timothy and the rest of them had a bet, to see if we'd actually read and discuss the article.
Now they're all sitting around, smoking cigars and belly laughing, contemplating when the circle jerk is going to begin. 'Cos it turns out they win, and we lose.
Shit, I'm embarrased I even clicked on the article. 200 Comments? Christ, we should collectively have a word with ourselves, cos this is ridiculous.
This isn't a story, it's not news, it fuckin retarded, end of...
We could also do with the big distro vendors getting on to device and peripheral manufacturers about drivers.
I've tried to switch a number of times in that last 2 to 3 years, whilst i still have the time and inclination to learn, but each time i've had to return to windows pretty much full time, and run linux in a nice tidy little virtual box VM, beacuse half (almost literally) the stuff I (and many others) use with my computer just doesnt function. Dont get me wrong, if i only wanted to web browse, edit, listen to music and watch video, then it would almost certainly have replaced windows on my machines, but thats not all people do on their computers...
I'm not talking about exotic, out-of-this-world-mega-hardware, i just mean things like mobile phones, any mouse purchased post 2004 with more than 3 buttons, TV cards, sound cards, printers, and dual head graphics. The state of affairs is still such that I (yes, I know it may be different for others...) cant sync tasks or transfer music to my phone, print a map or watch TV using my hardware. Nevermind getting things to output on 2 monitors, which was just a whole host of unpleasentness. All of which makes switching impossible, for me and I'm sure many others.
Sure, you can try one of the myriad work arounds and fixes on forums, but they rarely if ever work properly. So, whilst the software is important, I'm convinced that it's availability of native drivers for common consumer hardware that is more important than the current version of photoshop...
Until linux drivers are as common as mac drivers, i.e. available in the box, or alongside the other 2 on the drivers download page, people just wont be confident enough to switch. Or at least people like me. And im a feckin CS student for christ sake. Sadly, claims that your hardware will 'just work' are way, way off...
Hate (well, enjoy..) to be a pedant my friend, but Berners Lee invented the web, not the internet.
Alright, semi off topic here, but the best explanation i've ever read for the 3GB Ram ceiling is here....
Well worth a read.
Off topic, but if you need a quick way of getting round that pesky MSN blocking exe's and zips thing, i find renaming it to say 'inoccuousfile.jpg' then sending it and renaming at the other end, seems to work a treat....
Without wanting to sound combative or hostile, I wonder how much you actually used win9x era operating systems. Even on arguably the most obvious point, the UI, there have been massive improvements, such as the context sensitive stuff, thumbnails in directories (not seen in 95/98), useful tooltips etc etc.
Next, they 2000/XP (not sure about vista) handles things like DLL's, which, if I understand it correctly are now managed dynamically, with each application using its own. As opposed to back in the 'good' old days, where applications would and could fuck about with DLL's breaking both the OS and Apps on occasions.
Then, you have the big one, hardware management. Things like USB drives, CD drives, cameras, printers, whatever, were sometimes nightmarish to set up.
Basically, my point is, in my opinion ease of use of computers has improved beyond measure, and the RAM and CPU cycle cost is more than worth it.
Cheers
Well worth a look.
http://www.msgpluslive.net/
I just feel the need to vent and complain about how every decent action film has to be subjected to this kind of crap.
There are so many films I have to pretend don't exist just to stay sane.
The usual list here:
Aliens: should've stopped at 2. From the highly shit crash landing on a prison planet, all the way up to that mother alien having her head sucked out of the window, Alien 3 and 4 sucked arse. Properly shambolic films. An alien film needs suspense, or marines with pulse rifles, i'll take either, i'm not fussy.
Robocop: should've stopped at 1.
AvP: Complete train wreck of a film.
The matrix: Now, they really could've done without fucking up that film, it was great, but now somehow, it just seems a bit shit thanks to the vast turds that were numbers 2 and 3 completely ruining everything.
Star-wars, obviously the main offender in this category with those 3 abortions.
The one I thought had got away with it, and made a decent stab at number 3 was Terminator. Sure the 'terminatrix' was a bit shit, but there had obviously been a bit of time and effort put into the script, showing how an anonymous mess of a human being got to be in charge of the resistance, finishing quite well.
Assuming this story is true, and eventually comes to fruition, I'm going to hope against the odds that it's not a shameless cluster-fuck off a film, cashing in on the good work done previously by others.
Also, what happened to really fucking good action films, eh? Reading down the 'news' part of TFA's publishing site, I see Indian Jones, Star Wars and Terminator mentioned in the headlines. When did the film producing monkeys lose the ability to make decent films, instead of re-hashing good stuff from decades ago?
Something like Die Hard, or Aliens, films that weren't complete wank? I'm struggling, and the only half decent stuff I can come up with is the Bourne series, which are great, and as previously mentioned, the Matrix.
Oh, for the record, comic book movies aren't the answer, you can take spider man 3 and shove it up your arse for all I care.
Maybe the 'Printed Word' industry saw what would happen if the turned their content electrical.
Instead of going to a bookshop, and reading a few pages or the back cover blurbs of a number of books, people would end up simply downloading a copy onto a PDA/ebook reader or their computers, and end up, at best, buying only a small percentage of those books.
I know this is what happens with films, use the pre-release torrents, find out if the film/tv show is worth watching, and if so, add it to your collection of legit, paid for entertainment.
The actual 'owning' of a physical book/DVD, whatever, will never be replaced, but with free, easily obtainable copies of stuff all over the place, weeding out the crap is a lot easier.
I get the 'omg' bit, but whats the 'z' at the start of it in aid of? Have a missed something?
Holy crap, in the last 3 days on slashdot, I've read stories repoting with problems with your (U.S.) police force, youre election system, and now your 'free press'. I have to ask, what the fuck is going on in your country, and how much more will you have to see to do something about it??? Your apathy is not only going to cost you, but the rest of the globe as well.
I dont get it, maybe im being naeive, but if the majority of people dont want something, in this case, electronic voting, how do you let it get imposed upon on you?? You voted in these muppets, they're supposed to be there to serve you, not impose their own will on the public. If you dont like what they're doing, do something about it, let them know you wont be voting for them again if they keep this shit up. Fucking have a protest vote, do something.... Apologies in advance if this offends anyone
From what I've read on the subject, exit polls have a very small (1% or so) margin of error.
Exit polls are one of the things used to determine whether or not election fraud has occured in third world countries, and was even used to convict a someone running in the US of election tampering.
I cant remember the state or name though.
Many office workers will have worked with windows pre-xp, and as such will be well used to file extensions being visible, a-la 95, 98 and ME.
So, it probably wouldnt ring any alarm bells at all for a lot of Xp users...
And penalties is no way in the world to decide a game - what a joke.
I reckon penalties is am excellenet way to decide a game. Testing skill, nerves and still involving a modicum of luck, exactly like the previous 120 minutes did.
Penalty shootout naysayers confuse me....
If i could mod this post up i would....
Come on, whilst this sucks, we all know that theyre not searching every individual DVD sized package, or playing private DVD's.
Theyre looking for massive shipments of pirate DVD's, belonging to huge scale pirate operations.
I have absolutely no problem with this.
The chinese can make and sell it all they want, but fta this law makes it illegal to import or traffic any device that doesnt comply.
All i can say is, im glad i dont live in america. Seriously, something's gotta be done about your country....
Thats one of the best commnents ive ever read.
Thats the fucked up thing, we were never expected to just go out and buy the album 'blind'.
There was always radio (but thats just shit these days), and i remember when MTV and MTV2 used to play actual music.....
Or, you could get a copy from a friend, usually on tape, but well, if it was good enough then shelling out a tenner for the album was perfectly acceptable.
Its sad that im recalling 'good old days', and im only 24......