From data that I have seen, there are a large number of older people that have no desire to use the internet - ever.
Am I the only one astounded by some peoples' disinterest in the 'net? I mean... kings used to spend a fortune on what, today, would amount to a small local library. And they would consider that a huge resource, in the knowledge is power sense. I'm sure I recall historical tales about the quest for the sum of human knowledge.
The Internet, by comparison, really is getting close to the sum of human knowledge, in the sheer variety of information available, the speed at which new events are documented by it, and the level of worldwide, interpersonal communication involved.
I can't imagine anyone not wanting to spend time just seeing what's out there, unless they simply don't realise what's out there.
Something tells me that what these guys want to do will involve bigger issues than number of spaces to a tab. Especially given the existence of the indent program.
But hopefully there won't be any huge barriers, nonetheless. To Gerry Gilmore: what you want to do is good on many levels -- good for Linux, good for society, and quite certain to be good for your company too. You have my thanks, and my best wishes with it:)
Well, Encyclopædia Britannica is listed in Wikipedia, which obviously makes EB some sort of child of Wikipedia. Since EB is unaware of its parentage, we can only assume it's some sort of poor orphan child, or... err... something less legitimate;)
If you mean that the topic of cows is too simple to warrant an encyclopedia entry about it, then I must disagree. I don't think there is any subject related to nature or human endeavour that is remotely "simple", except when glanced over by a passer-by. A dairy farmer could probably right a book on cows, cow technology, cow behaviour, and how all that relates to his philosophy of life and why his kid is studying rocket science at university.
Better in your mind, perhaps. I'm sure plenty of us have already considered that theoretical question, weighed it against the frequent utility of Wikipedia, and come to the conclusion that it's "good enough". I know I have.
Blackdown? Open Source? I must've missed something. Last time I heard of blackdown, it was because the blackdown ppc debian packages of Sun's JDK were no longer up to date on PPC, and we all had to switch to IBM's JDK.
Did they start some new project?
No, it's just that some of us can't learn from 2001/2010 because they never made any damned sense to us:)
Best I got out of those films was a good "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that." sample for errors, and my first exposure to the word "monolith":)
Cinepaint or one of the other specialist video editing apps would be the obvious implementation place for me.
Or perhaps Krita, since they seem to be taking an active interest in advanced techniques such as natural media and painting tools algorithms etc.
Regardless of where it appears though, it would be great to see an open source tool with this feature. All of those old Open Content videos on creativecommons.org etc. would suddenly look a lot more appealing to non-geeks if we could colorise them:)
3) The NSA has an extremely bright team of civilians that do the bulk of their cryptoanalysis work. One of which is famous, and not for the work he does in cryptology. You'd actually laugh aloud if you knew. I guess it is his hobby, but someone is taking him seriously.
God, I really hope you're not referring to Bill...
those that drafted those never thought that our fellow citizens would have the apathy for tyrrany that we currently do.
How could they have known? Kids didn't grow up with commercial TV for an education back then.
I'm assuming that, if they're declassifying parts of the NSA, there is another, more classified organisation taking over from it. I think they did something like that with Area 51 -- shifting everything important to new locations -- when it became so well-known to the public.
Well by that token, why not "sharing the wealth" groups?
All of these terms have an inherent bias, one way or another. "Citizens (who generally have reasons for what they do) accused of a crime" would be the best term imho, but since it's long-winded and we like soundbytes that ignore the concept of innocence until proven guilty, we're not going to see that.
That's just generalisation. Plenty of nerds are unbearable when they're right, and others just don't like what they hear.
I'm sure my last boss thought I was unbearable when I told him his salesperson's opinion on technical issues of web design didn't matter. But it was true, and he probably knows it now every time he drives past his disused office.
Lots of people's reactions to RMS spring to mind as well: I haven't heard RMS say anything wrong yet, but people get really riled up about what he says just because they can't face the effort it takes to do the right thing.
What better way to lock users (and even developers) into a platform than to remove the concept of how and where their files are stored? Tell them it's in there, sure. Tell them they can sync it with their msPod or their WinPDA, sure. Tell them their Visual C++ project is grouped into Headers and Source code, no problem. But tell them that their C++ code could be portable, and that they could copy it to OS X or Linux if they could only find the actual file? No way.
I was thinking that if they want to open something up in order to acknowledge contributions, they should open up their dictionary site, since every word in it was a result of society's evolution, and nothing to do with them.
But I guess that's too non-profit for some organisations, huh?;)
Even starving kids have been known to bash out music when not scouring rubbish tips for food. Humanity will always create. The only question is how we restrict that creative work.
Well, let's be honest here. While I'm often eager to point out that the world and the net is bigger than any one country, there's an important principle of solidarity at stake. When individual countries' freedoms are eroded like this, it tends to put more pressure on the remaining countries to cave-in too.
It's never good when freedom is lost, no matter how insignificant it seems at the time.
Well, yes, usually. But in this case, the 16" hammer's handle isn't quite as good as the one on the 15" hammer, and Torvalds happens to be the one making the handles.
I'm hoping this means Linux/PowerPC will get a little more driver work etc.
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From data that I have seen, there are a large number of older people that have no desire to use the internet - ever. Am I the only one astounded by some peoples' disinterest in the 'net? I mean... kings used to spend a fortune on what, today, would amount to a small local library. And they would consider that a huge resource, in the knowledge is power sense. I'm sure I recall historical tales about the quest for the sum of human knowledge. The Internet, by comparison, really is getting close to the sum of human knowledge, in the sheer variety of information available, the speed at which new events are documented by it, and the level of worldwide, interpersonal communication involved. I can't imagine anyone not wanting to spend time just seeing what's out there, unless they simply don't realise what's out there.
Something tells me that what these guys want to do will involve bigger issues than number of spaces to a tab. Especially given the existence of the indent program. But hopefully there won't be any huge barriers, nonetheless. To Gerry Gilmore: what you want to do is good on many levels -- good for Linux, good for society, and quite certain to be good for your company too. You have my thanks, and my best wishes with it :)
Well, Encyclopædia Britannica is listed in Wikipedia, which obviously makes EB some sort of child of Wikipedia. Since EB is unaware of its parentage, we can only assume it's some sort of poor orphan child, or... err... something less legitimate ;)
If you mean that the topic of cows is too simple to warrant an encyclopedia entry about it, then I must disagree. I don't think there is any subject related to nature or human endeavour that is remotely "simple", except when glanced over by a passer-by. A dairy farmer could probably right a book on cows, cow technology, cow behaviour, and how all that relates to his philosophy of life and why his kid is studying rocket science at university.
Better in your mind, perhaps. I'm sure plenty of us have already considered that theoretical question, weighed it against the frequent utility of Wikipedia, and come to the conclusion that it's "good enough". I know I have.
Well said :D
Blackdown? Open Source? I must've missed something. Last time I heard of blackdown, it was because the blackdown ppc debian packages of Sun's JDK were no longer up to date on PPC, and we all had to switch to IBM's JDK. Did they start some new project?
I'm sure MS will fully support CSS, as soon as they figure it out, get IE's architecture modified to suit it, and design something to extend it.
So yeah, not long now ;) *snigger*...
Oh, those guys? Hahhah, it seems I know them by their failures :) Thanks for clarifying :)
I might agree, but my only thought on hearing the opinion of EDS is: EDwho?
No, it's just that some of us can't learn from 2001/2010 because they never made any damned sense to us :)
Best I got out of those films was a good "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that." sample for errors, and my first exposure to the word "monolith" :)
Cinepaint or one of the other specialist video editing apps would be the obvious implementation place for me.
Or perhaps Krita, since they seem to be taking an active interest in advanced techniques such as natural media and painting tools algorithms etc.
Regardless of where it appears though, it would be great to see an open source tool with this feature. All of those old Open Content videos on creativecommons.org etc. would suddenly look a lot more appealing to non-geeks if we could colorise them :)
"cost", my friend. If it "costed" you, it'd have an estimated price to show for it ;)
Agreed. There are much more fun uses for technology, and they have the benefit of being not-quite-so-psychotic, too ;)
3) The NSA has an extremely bright team of civilians that do the bulk of their cryptoanalysis work. One of which is famous, and not for the work he does in cryptology. You'd actually laugh aloud if you knew. I guess it is his hobby, but someone is taking him seriously.
God, I really hope you're not referring to Bill...
those that drafted those never thought that our fellow citizens would have the apathy for tyrrany that we currently do. How could they have known? Kids didn't grow up with commercial TV for an education back then.
I'm assuming that, if they're declassifying parts of the NSA, there is another, more classified organisation taking over from it. I think they did something like that with Area 51 -- shifting everything important to new locations -- when it became so well-known to the public.
Well by that token, why not "sharing the wealth" groups? All of these terms have an inherent bias, one way or another. "Citizens (who generally have reasons for what they do) accused of a crime" would be the best term imho, but since it's long-winded and we like soundbytes that ignore the concept of innocence until proven guilty, we're not going to see that.
If he's talking Open Source rather than Free Software, I'm assuming he cares less about the actual freedom part.
That's just generalisation. Plenty of nerds are unbearable when they're right, and others just don't like what they hear.
I'm sure my last boss thought I was unbearable when I told him his salesperson's opinion on technical issues of web design didn't matter. But it was true, and he probably knows it now every time he drives past his disused office.
Lots of people's reactions to RMS spring to mind as well: I haven't heard RMS say anything wrong yet, but people get really riled up about what he says just because they can't face the effort it takes to do the right thing.
What better way to lock users (and even developers) into a platform than to remove the concept of how and where their files are stored? Tell them it's in there, sure. Tell them they can sync it with their msPod or their WinPDA, sure. Tell them their Visual C++ project is grouped into Headers and Source code, no problem. But tell them that their C++ code could be portable, and that they could copy it to OS X or Linux if they could only find the actual file? No way.
I was thinking that if they want to open something up in order to acknowledge contributions, they should open up their dictionary site, since every word in it was a result of society's evolution, and nothing to do with them. But I guess that's too non-profit for some organisations, huh? ;)
Even starving kids have been known to bash out music when not scouring rubbish tips for food. Humanity will always create. The only question is how we restrict that creative work.
Well, let's be honest here. While I'm often eager to point out that the world and the net is bigger than any one country, there's an important principle of solidarity at stake. When individual countries' freedoms are eroded like this, it tends to put more pressure on the remaining countries to cave-in too. It's never good when freedom is lost, no matter how insignificant it seems at the time.
Well, yes, usually. But in this case, the 16" hammer's handle isn't quite as good as the one on the 15" hammer, and Torvalds happens to be the one making the handles. I'm hoping this means Linux/PowerPC will get a little more driver work etc.