I know everyone's pocketbook is different, but a used GC at EB/GStop is $59.00. I traded in a few crappy PS2 titles and got mine for $6.00.
I've since traded in a bunch of stale PS2 titles and have Mario Party 5, Donkey Konga 2 w/bongo's, Starfox Adventures, Puyo Pop, Mario Sunshine, Metroid Prime, and Luigi's Mansion for a total investment of about $60 including the system.
That's about the cost of just one new title, and I have had more FUN with the GC than I've had with my PS2 in years.
and I bet you are probably around 25 years old. I too am choosing Nintendo in this next round. The reason I gave an age guess is because most NES players are now about 25 or so and are out of MS and Sony's demographic of immature "mature" games and FPS's.
There is a huge trend right now of gamers looking to return to the core of gaming: Fun, Accessible, Innovative, Unique, and Enjoyable games. Games where gameplay and design get the bulk of the effort, like it used to be.
I get modded down all the time as a N fanboy, but the fact is that I've been a PC and PS2 game reviewer and media rep. for years. I see the trends, and I see this next generation of consoles as the final catalyst to begin the change in videogaming. I truly believe that the name choice "Revolution" is going to end up being just that and propelling Nintendo back to the forefront and changing the face of gaming. No matter what brand your loyal to, a change is needed, no company is better equipped to do it either than the big N.
You can say what you will, and BTW you've been on my "foe" list for some time, but if you follow my posts I am not on Nintendo's side for any other reason besides they are the only console maker to try something NEW in this next round. I applaud that.
I have been a member of the Sony only media. However you want to try to paint me as a Nintendo fanboy. Whatever man, give it a rest.
If you see innovation in the 360 or PS3, you are kidding yourself.
Also FYI most console releases are about 2x as powerful as their predecessor overall. And the truth is that the PS1's IO processor was 33.8688MHz the PS2's: 36.864MHz! Want me to keep going? I can blow your claims out of the water on every console you listed. I spent 2 years working directly with the PS1 and PS2 hardware... so take your shit elsewhere. You're not going to stump me, and you can try all you want but at some point you need to give it a rest and move on. If you don;t like what I say, then don't read it.
I look at things objectively, fairly, and critically. I've been in this bsiness long enough to not fall into the pitfalls that most fans do. I am excited for the Revolution. I'd be just as excited if it were a Sony or Ms creation that was attempting to usher in fun, gameplay, and substance over glitz, hype and flash.
The Revolution is pretty damn revolutionary in todays age of games, to deny this is idiocy.
I can appreciate the counter-argument, but I still just can't for the life of me ever understand the music industry. When the switch from Cassete Tape to CD came, Cassettes were still cheaper to buy. Even now there is simply no excuse for CD's to be much more than $5-10 tops. The whole thing is that you need to get your product to a price that makes the effort to pirate it a loss. You wil always have people who will pirate stuff no matter what, but if I know that for $5 I get liner notes, art, and a pressed CD all without any time investment on my part I'm all for it! And if the individual starving-artist can sell CD's at $5-10 then there is NO reason anyone else can't.
I'm really tired of seeing all these music and movie stars living in beyond the lap of luxury for doing nothing more than performing. The priorities in this country are quite skewed, and I just wish people put some thought and effort into what they watch and listen to. I mean I hear people say how good of a movie "The Day After Tomorrow" was, that movie was garbage and full of so many things that made no logical sense it was amazing. But I guess some people are able to suspend their belief better than me and/or have no thought process while watching a film. Same with most Pop/rap music. I mean when you stop and think about the premise of most of these "songs" it is about as pointless as can be. I just get fed up with what people accept, and expect these days... it ain't much.
Man, I truly am not aware of these instances... if your correct, I stand corrected. I've worked in this industry (but mainly for PS2 titles) and like to think not too much slips by me, but I could be wrong. Heh, there's a first time for everything;)
I'm no Nintendo fanboy but you can not think of any "leaks" because there haven't been any. Anything leaked, truly was leaked, not by "accident."
I'm not sure you understand what viral marketing campaigns are, MS's ILOVEBEES or Origen are two examples. Nintendo has never ran a viral marketing campaign so far, and I don't think they ever will, it's not their style.
Witholding information about an unfinished product is not hype. Sure it generates interest, but that would be like the zen form of hype. "The hype is not to hype." They've basically stated the TRUTH from day 1. But people are so not used to this approach they have to read more into everything.
Nintendo said that the controller will be innovative and easy to use and fun, they said it will be simple to duplicate by their competitors, they said it isn't finished yet. All truth.
They said it will download old games. There were rumors that they would be free, Nintendo objected, but then said that they will be free in some instances like with a game purchase or as a marketing tool. Truth.
They said the system will be about 2x as powerful as current systems in tha face of others claims of 10x+ power. That took balls and again it was the truth, not just for them but for everyone. The next gen systems will be about 2x as powerful. Just as is the normal case. Truth.
I mean a lot of spin and arguments have come out about all of this but the majority of it comes from US, not them. They actually have been about as truthful as any game company before a launch, even themselves. I can only think that they are pretty sure of themselves and their product, they really haven't turned up the marketing-speak as of yet. And we'll see at TGS if they do or if they keep on with their current approach.
I don't buy pop music either, but that's not the point. Ever notice how some of those smaller lables don't fight piracy at all, don't have to, and don't care? It's because they have produced a good product that people are willing to pay for. I wouldn't dream of pirating an independant artist like a local Pittsburgh guy named Brad Yoder, I willingly pay him DOUBLE what he's asking when I'm at one of his shows and he is very appreciative. (he generally sells CD's at shows for $5-10) Why would I pirate anything that I can buy for $5 straight from the guy?
Oh, they will. Except it Nintendo doesn't really use lame "leaks" they go straight for your balls. Sony and MS use all the hype and obfuscation and viral marketing and leaks. Nintendo just walks softly and carries a big stick when they want to.
TGS is coming up soon, Nintendo will be stealing quite a bit of thunder I'm sure. I also look for them to actually beat the PS3 to market when all is said and done. Nintendo knows that no matter how badly MS wants to break into Japan, they never will. I have many friends in Japan and the actual interest is so low it's akin to their excitement at belly-button lint. Nintendo also knows that even if they do release last that most people will have played the launch titles for their new "uber" systems and be bored and will pick up a Revolution in addition to their 360/PS3... while families and enthusiats will gladly wait it out.
Nintendo is actually really well positioned in this war. MS and Sony are banking on competing formats of media (of which only one will win), different architectures, and are actually helping to ensure mutually assured destruction. Nintendo actually has to do very little but continue to slowly release information over time to build to a successful creshendo.
$60 Freakin Million A MONTH is what they are basically making with WoW. $14.99 x 4 million users. Now I'm sure it is a bit less overall, but honestly what other business affords this type of income in the gaming industry? It is almost obscene.
I was really hoping Guild Wars was going to be a runaway hit, it kind of has been popular due to the no monthly fee but after just a couple months people are GLAD to pay for a better more immersive game. Kind of had the opposite effect unfortunately.
I just wish a MMO could debut with a reasonable fee like $4.99 a month or even a tiered approach: $2.99 a month for 20 hours, 4.99 for 40hrs., 9.99 for unlimited. That way normal folks who work, sleep, bathe, date, etc. could play and not feel like they are getting ripped compared to the 1337 24x7 players. I mean I may get to log on and play 20-30 hours a month max, If I could pay a variable rate with a upper-end cap I'd be glad to. Months where I'm away or only get on for 5 hours should not cost me the same as a month where I play every day. There has to be better business models, but what incentive is there for MMO companies to even try?
Maybe music and movie companies should try a similar tactic too. I mean how hard is this? I get so sick and tired of hearing them continually complain about slipping numbers and piracy yet they do nothing to try to solve the problem besides suing 13-year olds and their parents.
A little OT but related. I am similarly amazed at how Americans sit and watch the reality shows about rich kids, celebs, musicians showing all their opulence and low IQ's... yet Americans still idolize these people that have IQ's on par with my shoe size and are not at all phazed by the fact that they have to work every day of their lives for a mere pittance while these folks barely fumble through mundane activities without a team of people to help them and then they complain that they are "losing" money.
I wish people could get their pritorities straight and begin to turn things around instead of being content to fund the coffers of these morons and not demand more. Honestly, most pop music and hollywood movies aren't worth the media they come on, I manage to feel cheated when I "waste" a blank CD or DVD that cost me 25-50 cents for most of the crap out there.
Umm, I wasn't tooting my own horn. I simply stated what my background is, I am a computer guy and am quite competent in hardware as well as EE. I also quite clearly state I'm no expert, just someone who has been quite close to a lot of game matters and people who are.
I never backpedaled, I personally feel that overall the RSX will be sub-par to the 7800. Period. Based on specs and my best predictions I hold to this statement. Now if you think that the RSX won't be aggressively optimized for two or three tasks at the sacrifice of others then you are fooling yourself and I am being objective by pointing this out. I could easily defend my position without stating this to bolster it, but I didn't I am being objective. So it may run a hundred Mhz faster, if this was a normal vid card that would be no big deal. The job that the RSX has to do and the job a 7800 does are totally different. The job of the RSX is much easier and specialized, so yes in some areas it will be faster. Overall and taking into account all of the 7800 features it will not match up. Sorry to say.
Well not to argue, but you're a little off in your logic. Bubbles was actually derivitive of the original "Space Wars" and the creator even gave credit back in the day.
Kirby Canvas Curse is a whole new breed of game based on drawing paths and walls on a touch screen and has no traditional controls at all. This is pretty unique.
Donky Konga if anything was close to Taiko for the PS2. But the mix of innovative controller/mic and the melding with a rhythm game makes for a pretty unique experience. Not totally fresh but quite innovative.
The thing is I don't care if games borrow small ideas here and there in something new and creative, what I think everyone grows tired of are the exact clones in different settings or genres so totally overdone (cliche RPG's with reluctant hero's who save the world, FPS's, Stealth games, Racing, Sports, etc.) Just some bit of a return to a focus on unique, fun, game design, and gameplay is all I really ask... and I think all most people are clamoring for.
And you honestly believe that overall the RSX will be faster than a 7800? If over 20 years of game playing, 6 years of playtesting and development, and 4+ reviewing doesn't give me some validity, I don't know what does. I don't claim to be an expert, just someone who's been around this block for quite some time.
I also happen to have very close friends who work in other areas of the field and speak with them regularly. That means I have friends who do work with MS, Sony, Nintendo, and independant development houses. The amazing thing is that in real life we can all sit down and talk about new systems and shortcomings and bullshit without ever feeling any need to defend anything. I find it amusing when I get labled a "fanboy" for anyone. If you've worked in this industry you quickly realize how little loyalty anyone has to any company, outside of the users and true fanboys.
The truth is most of us are jaded, cynical, and could give two shits and a fuck about [insert company name]'s NEW Whiz-Bang super console. We have the ability to look at things objectively and it is exactly what I've done with the RSX.
I've read the full specs on the 7800 and know quite a bit about the RSX. It is a specialized processor, however it is not going to have the overall power of the 7800. It will excel in a few areas and that is all. Period. We'll soon see and you can fuck off once the final specs. are released.
So thanks for your opinion, I've promptly filed it in the who cares drawer.
Hell, if I had been fool enough to dish out $300 on a PSP I'd be happy about such stupid little things like a barely usable web browser and the ability to pay twice for movies and then get a limited format that is sub-par to almost everything out there... Yay!
With the horrible shortage of anything decent to play on the PSP except decade old roms, UMD's are about the only way to feel like you got any value from your purchase and even then it is pretty damn questionable.
Sorry, but WHAT THE FUCK? Either you have serious mental issues or are just an idiot. There are so many great innovative ideas and games out there, they just never see the light of day.
Katamari Damacy wasn't derivitive, didn't involve violence and was phenomenal. To think that everything has been done and that there are no more innovative ideas is insane.
Spore, Kirby canvas curse, Donkey Konga, Katamari Damacy, there are quite a few innovative games and developers out there they just get drowned out by the sea of garbage clone/sequel/crap.
Having been a playtester on a number of PS2 titles I can honestly saw we are the least utilized except for a small time window where the big bugs are worked on. It used to be playtesting was important, but now it is an unnecessary expense to devote much time to.
Basically no one puts the effort into extensive testing and game balancing anymore. It's all about getting product out the door as quickly as possible and making sure that the large bugs have been mostly squashed.
I wish for a return to days when playtesting mattered, but it ain't happening anytime soon. Having your memory card formatted completely when trying to save is a "feature" nowadays, not a bug. Who needs playtesters?
Well "common sense" and "obvious" apparently don't reach everyone on/. as these "revelations" are always met with shock and awe. Face it people get so wrapped up in hype and shit if MS told them their new console would give them a reach around while playing people would be pre-ordering seconds after the press release.
It just amazes me that otherwise intelligent people get snowed time and time again by cheesy marketing gimmicks and hype. I've been to my share of E3's and your faith in humanity can only take so much. I actually have vowed to never attend again.
heh, you mean someone else besides me is tired of Midnight Club 1, Midnight Club 2, Midnight Club: Bling Bling Edition, Super-duper-bad-ass-mofo-illegal-pimp smackin-crack smokin-street-racing with gangsta rappas? No Way! But they're the COOLEST!
I mean and if I can't smack a hoe or two per game it just doesn't feel "right." ooh, oooh... or like games where I get to pretend I'm playing by not moving for minutes on end while waiting for guards to turn their backs or fall asleep and then quietly run by? WTF? There's nothing wrong with current games!!!
C'mon! Derivitive, cloned, and licensed crap doesn't equal great games?!? Get Out Of Town! From all the "unbiased" reviews all you need is either FPS, Stealth, Sex, Violence, or a rapper to be a hit.
The game industry for some reason is set up to mimic Hollywood... and for even more puzzling reasons people think this is a good thing. Morons. The 360 and PS3 will do nothing but ensure that big dev studios keep cranking out the same FPS/Sports/Licensed garbage en masse as they are "safe" genre's and are fairly guaranteed returns when development costs are through the roof. I mean, who wants to take a risk on an "innovative" or "fresh" title when millions are on the line?
God, I so hope Nintendo mops the floor with the 360 and PS3 so the industry can get back to some semblance of innovation and gameplay. When will morons get sick of their damn FPS clones and crave a real game... do people even remember what a totally new and innovative game is like anymore? Hint: GTA:[insert city name], Doom[insert roman numeral], Madden[insert next year], etc. are NOT innovative!
You are mixing up your hype. The RSX may be FASTER, but it means nothing about its specs/power/abilities. Also "faster" is not quantitative and truly means nothing. The RSX is to have the same or slightly less transistors than the 7800 and it is to run on less power, how you think the RSX is going to blow the doors off of a 7800 is puzzling. In the end the RSX may be on par with the 7800 and maybe faster in some areas but most certainly not overall or even in the majority of categories.
Well, smart-ass if you click back to my posts in the original/. article heralding the 7800 release and it's tech specs. you will quite clearly see my comments and the time and date of them.
It is no surprise to me, I've worked in this industry for some time and my B.S. detectors work perfectly fine. Also my reality shield is firmly up and fairly impervious to hype.
Seriously who honestly thought Sony would be putting uber 7800's in PS3's? The transistor counts are the same or less for the RSX... exactly how Einstein were you planning for them to make some mega-7800 with the same or less transistor counts? Especially in a console that will be drawing less or equal power for the ENTIRE system than just one 7800?
Sony and MS are the main offenders of keeping things formulaic and predictable. Even being a Sony fanboy and reviewer for four years has not been enough to overcome the truth of the matter: Nintendo's Revolution is my only hope of the game industry being brought out of this slump. Sony and MS are quite openly happy to keep things status quo and keep pumping out derivitive garbage while charging more and more... yay!
The game industry needs a good swift kick in the dick, and I sure hope Mario is the little italian plumber to give the boot.
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I know everyone's pocketbook is different, but a used GC at EB/GStop is $59.00. I traded in a few crappy PS2 titles and got mine for $6.00.
I've since traded in a bunch of stale PS2 titles and have Mario Party 5, Donkey Konga 2 w/bongo's, Starfox Adventures, Puyo Pop, Mario Sunshine, Metroid Prime, and Luigi's Mansion for a total investment of about $60 including the system.
That's about the cost of just one new title, and I have had more FUN with the GC than I've had with my PS2 in years.
and I bet you are probably around 25 years old. I too am choosing Nintendo in this next round. The reason I gave an age guess is because most NES players are now about 25 or so and are out of MS and Sony's demographic of immature "mature" games and FPS's.
There is a huge trend right now of gamers looking to return to the core of gaming: Fun, Accessible, Innovative, Unique, and Enjoyable games. Games where gameplay and design get the bulk of the effort, like it used to be.
I get modded down all the time as a N fanboy, but the fact is that I've been a PC and PS2 game reviewer and media rep. for years. I see the trends, and I see this next generation of consoles as the final catalyst to begin the change in videogaming. I truly believe that the name choice "Revolution" is going to end up being just that and propelling Nintendo back to the forefront and changing the face of gaming. No matter what brand your loyal to, a change is needed, no company is better equipped to do it either than the big N.
You can say what you will, and BTW you've been on my "foe" list for some time, but if you follow my posts I am not on Nintendo's side for any other reason besides they are the only console maker to try something NEW in this next round. I applaud that.
I have been a member of the Sony only media. However you want to try to paint me as a Nintendo fanboy. Whatever man, give it a rest.
If you see innovation in the 360 or PS3, you are kidding yourself.
Also FYI most console releases are about 2x as powerful as their predecessor overall. And the truth is that the PS1's IO processor was 33.8688MHz the PS2's: 36.864MHz! Want me to keep going? I can blow your claims out of the water on every console you listed. I spent 2 years working directly with the PS1 and PS2 hardware... so take your shit elsewhere. You're not going to stump me, and you can try all you want but at some point you need to give it a rest and move on. If you don;t like what I say, then don't read it.
I look at things objectively, fairly, and critically. I've been in this bsiness long enough to not fall into the pitfalls that most fans do. I am excited for the Revolution. I'd be just as excited if it were a Sony or Ms creation that was attempting to usher in fun, gameplay, and substance over glitz, hype and flash.
The Revolution is pretty damn revolutionary in todays age of games, to deny this is idiocy.
I can appreciate the counter-argument, but I still just can't for the life of me ever understand the music industry. When the switch from Cassete Tape to CD came, Cassettes were still cheaper to buy. Even now there is simply no excuse for CD's to be much more than $5-10 tops. The whole thing is that you need to get your product to a price that makes the effort to pirate it a loss. You wil always have people who will pirate stuff no matter what, but if I know that for $5 I get liner notes, art, and a pressed CD all without any time investment on my part I'm all for it! And if the individual starving-artist can sell CD's at $5-10 then there is NO reason anyone else can't.
I'm really tired of seeing all these music and movie stars living in beyond the lap of luxury for doing nothing more than performing. The priorities in this country are quite skewed, and I just wish people put some thought and effort into what they watch and listen to. I mean I hear people say how good of a movie "The Day After Tomorrow" was, that movie was garbage and full of so many things that made no logical sense it was amazing. But I guess some people are able to suspend their belief better than me and/or have no thought process while watching a film. Same with most Pop/rap music. I mean when you stop and think about the premise of most of these "songs" it is about as pointless as can be. I just get fed up with what people accept, and expect these days... it ain't much.
Man, I truly am not aware of these instances... if your correct, I stand corrected. I've worked in this industry (but mainly for PS2 titles) and like to think not too much slips by me, but I could be wrong. Heh, there's a first time for everything ;)
I'm no Nintendo fanboy but you can not think of any "leaks" because there haven't been any. Anything leaked, truly was leaked, not by "accident."
I'm not sure you understand what viral marketing campaigns are, MS's ILOVEBEES or Origen are two examples. Nintendo has never ran a viral marketing campaign so far, and I don't think they ever will, it's not their style.
Witholding information about an unfinished product is not hype. Sure it generates interest, but that would be like the zen form of hype. "The hype is not to hype." They've basically stated the TRUTH from day 1. But people are so not used to this approach they have to read more into everything.
Nintendo said that the controller will be innovative and easy to use and fun, they said it will be simple to duplicate by their competitors, they said it isn't finished yet. All truth.
They said it will download old games. There were rumors that they would be free, Nintendo objected, but then said that they will be free in some instances like with a game purchase or as a marketing tool. Truth.
They said the system will be about 2x as powerful as current systems in tha face of others claims of 10x+ power. That took balls and again it was the truth, not just for them but for everyone. The next gen systems will be about 2x as powerful. Just as is the normal case. Truth.
I mean a lot of spin and arguments have come out about all of this but the majority of it comes from US, not them. They actually have been about as truthful as any game company before a launch, even themselves. I can only think that they are pretty sure of themselves and their product, they really haven't turned up the marketing-speak as of yet. And we'll see at TGS if they do or if they keep on with their current approach.
I don't buy pop music either, but that's not the point. Ever notice how some of those smaller lables don't fight piracy at all, don't have to, and don't care? It's because they have produced a good product that people are willing to pay for. I wouldn't dream of pirating an independant artist like a local Pittsburgh guy named Brad Yoder, I willingly pay him DOUBLE what he's asking when I'm at one of his shows and he is very appreciative. (he generally sells CD's at shows for $5-10) Why would I pirate anything that I can buy for $5 straight from the guy?
Oh, they will. Except it Nintendo doesn't really use lame "leaks" they go straight for your balls. Sony and MS use all the hype and obfuscation and viral marketing and leaks. Nintendo just walks softly and carries a big stick when they want to.
TGS is coming up soon, Nintendo will be stealing quite a bit of thunder I'm sure. I also look for them to actually beat the PS3 to market when all is said and done. Nintendo knows that no matter how badly MS wants to break into Japan, they never will. I have many friends in Japan and the actual interest is so low it's akin to their excitement at belly-button lint. Nintendo also knows that even if they do release last that most people will have played the launch titles for their new "uber" systems and be bored and will pick up a Revolution in addition to their 360/PS3... while families and enthusiats will gladly wait it out.
Nintendo is actually really well positioned in this war. MS and Sony are banking on competing formats of media (of which only one will win), different architectures, and are actually helping to ensure mutually assured destruction. Nintendo actually has to do very little but continue to slowly release information over time to build to a successful creshendo.
$60 Freakin Million A MONTH is what they are basically making with WoW. $14.99 x 4 million users. Now I'm sure it is a bit less overall, but honestly what other business affords this type of income in the gaming industry? It is almost obscene.
I was really hoping Guild Wars was going to be a runaway hit, it kind of has been popular due to the no monthly fee but after just a couple months people are GLAD to pay for a better more immersive game. Kind of had the opposite effect unfortunately.
I just wish a MMO could debut with a reasonable fee like $4.99 a month or even a tiered approach: $2.99 a month for 20 hours, 4.99 for 40hrs., 9.99 for unlimited. That way normal folks who work, sleep, bathe, date, etc. could play and not feel like they are getting ripped compared to the 1337 24x7 players. I mean I may get to log on and play 20-30 hours a month max, If I could pay a variable rate with a upper-end cap I'd be glad to. Months where I'm away or only get on for 5 hours should not cost me the same as a month where I play every day. There has to be better business models, but what incentive is there for MMO companies to even try?
Maybe music and movie companies should try a similar tactic too. I mean how hard is this? I get so sick and tired of hearing them continually complain about slipping numbers and piracy yet they do nothing to try to solve the problem besides suing 13-year olds and their parents.
A little OT but related. I am similarly amazed at how Americans sit and watch the reality shows about rich kids, celebs, musicians showing all their opulence and low IQ's... yet Americans still idolize these people that have IQ's on par with my shoe size and are not at all phazed by the fact that they have to work every day of their lives for a mere pittance while these folks barely fumble through mundane activities without a team of people to help them and then they complain that they are "losing" money.
I wish people could get their pritorities straight and begin to turn things around instead of being content to fund the coffers of these morons and not demand more. Honestly, most pop music and hollywood movies aren't worth the media they come on, I manage to feel cheated when I "waste" a blank CD or DVD that cost me 25-50 cents for most of the crap out there.
Umm, I wasn't tooting my own horn. I simply stated what my background is, I am a computer guy and am quite competent in hardware as well as EE. I also quite clearly state I'm no expert, just someone who has been quite close to a lot of game matters and people who are.
I never backpedaled, I personally feel that overall the RSX will be sub-par to the 7800. Period. Based on specs and my best predictions I hold to this statement. Now if you think that the RSX won't be aggressively optimized for two or three tasks at the sacrifice of others then you are fooling yourself and I am being objective by pointing this out. I could easily defend my position without stating this to bolster it, but I didn't I am being objective. So it may run a hundred Mhz faster, if this was a normal vid card that would be no big deal. The job that the RSX has to do and the job a 7800 does are totally different. The job of the RSX is much easier and specialized, so yes in some areas it will be faster. Overall and taking into account all of the 7800 features it will not match up. Sorry to say.
Again, we'll see soon enough who is right.
Well not to argue, but you're a little off in your logic. Bubbles was actually derivitive of the original "Space Wars" and the creator even gave credit back in the day.
Kirby Canvas Curse is a whole new breed of game based on drawing paths and walls on a touch screen and has no traditional controls at all. This is pretty unique.
Donky Konga if anything was close to Taiko for the PS2. But the mix of innovative controller/mic and the melding with a rhythm game makes for a pretty unique experience. Not totally fresh but quite innovative.
The thing is I don't care if games borrow small ideas here and there in something new and creative, what I think everyone grows tired of are the exact clones in different settings or genres so totally overdone (cliche RPG's with reluctant hero's who save the world, FPS's, Stealth games, Racing, Sports, etc.) Just some bit of a return to a focus on unique, fun, game design, and gameplay is all I really ask... and I think all most people are clamoring for.
And you honestly believe that overall the RSX will be faster than a 7800? If over 20 years of game playing, 6 years of playtesting and development, and 4+ reviewing doesn't give me some validity, I don't know what does. I don't claim to be an expert, just someone who's been around this block for quite some time.
I also happen to have very close friends who work in other areas of the field and speak with them regularly. That means I have friends who do work with MS, Sony, Nintendo, and independant development houses. The amazing thing is that in real life we can all sit down and talk about new systems and shortcomings and bullshit without ever feeling any need to defend anything. I find it amusing when I get labled a "fanboy" for anyone. If you've worked in this industry you quickly realize how little loyalty anyone has to any company, outside of the users and true fanboys.
The truth is most of us are jaded, cynical, and could give two shits and a fuck about [insert company name]'s NEW Whiz-Bang super console. We have the ability to look at things objectively and it is exactly what I've done with the RSX.
I've read the full specs on the 7800 and know quite a bit about the RSX. It is a specialized processor, however it is not going to have the overall power of the 7800. It will excel in a few areas and that is all. Period. We'll soon see and you can fuck off once the final specs. are released.
So thanks for your opinion, I've promptly filed it in the who cares drawer.
Hell, if I had been fool enough to dish out $300 on a PSP I'd be happy about such stupid little things like a barely usable web browser and the ability to pay twice for movies and then get a limited format that is sub-par to almost everything out there... Yay!
With the horrible shortage of anything decent to play on the PSP except decade old roms, UMD's are about the only way to feel like you got any value from your purchase and even then it is pretty damn questionable.
nah, couldn't be on /., could it?
Sweet Jeebus, its a freakin concept car. No one is "switching" to anything.
Nothing to see here, move along.
Sorry, but WHAT THE FUCK? Either you have serious mental issues or are just an idiot. There are so many great innovative ideas and games out there, they just never see the light of day.
Katamari Damacy wasn't derivitive, didn't involve violence and was phenomenal. To think that everything has been done and that there are no more innovative ideas is insane.
Spore, Kirby canvas curse, Donkey Konga, Katamari Damacy, there are quite a few innovative games and developers out there they just get drowned out by the sea of garbage clone/sequel/crap.
Having been a playtester on a number of PS2 titles I can honestly saw we are the least utilized except for a small time window where the big bugs are worked on. It used to be playtesting was important, but now it is an unnecessary expense to devote much time to.
Basically no one puts the effort into extensive testing and game balancing anymore. It's all about getting product out the door as quickly as possible and making sure that the large bugs have been mostly squashed.
I wish for a return to days when playtesting mattered, but it ain't happening anytime soon. Having your memory card formatted completely when trying to save is a "feature" nowadays, not a bug. Who needs playtesters?
Well "common sense" and "obvious" apparently don't reach everyone on /. as these "revelations" are always met with shock and awe. Face it people get so wrapped up in hype and shit if MS told them their new console would give them a reach around while playing people would be pre-ordering seconds after the press release.
It just amazes me that otherwise intelligent people get snowed time and time again by cheesy marketing gimmicks and hype. I've been to my share of E3's and your faith in humanity can only take so much. I actually have vowed to never attend again.
That depends on your definition of "working" is... see: Uwe Boll article. :)
heh, you mean someone else besides me is tired of Midnight Club 1, Midnight Club 2, Midnight Club: Bling Bling Edition, Super-duper-bad-ass-mofo-illegal-pimp smackin-crack smokin-street-racing with gangsta rappas? No Way! But they're the COOLEST!
I mean and if I can't smack a hoe or two per game it just doesn't feel "right." ooh, oooh... or like games where I get to pretend I'm playing by not moving for minutes on end while waiting for guards to turn their backs or fall asleep and then quietly run by? WTF? There's nothing wrong with current games!!!
C'mon! Derivitive, cloned, and licensed crap doesn't equal great games?!? Get Out Of Town! From all the "unbiased" reviews all you need is either FPS, Stealth, Sex, Violence, or a rapper to be a hit.
The game industry for some reason is set up to mimic Hollywood... and for even more puzzling reasons people think this is a good thing. Morons. The 360 and PS3 will do nothing but ensure that big dev studios keep cranking out the same FPS/Sports/Licensed garbage en masse as they are "safe" genre's and are fairly guaranteed returns when development costs are through the roof. I mean, who wants to take a risk on an "innovative" or "fresh" title when millions are on the line?
God, I so hope Nintendo mops the floor with the 360 and PS3 so the industry can get back to some semblance of innovation and gameplay. When will morons get sick of their damn FPS clones and crave a real game... do people even remember what a totally new and innovative game is like anymore? Hint: GTA:[insert city name], Doom[insert roman numeral], Madden[insert next year], etc. are NOT innovative!
You are mixing up your hype. The RSX may be FASTER, but it means nothing about its specs/power/abilities. Also "faster" is not quantitative and truly means nothing. The RSX is to have the same or slightly less transistors than the 7800 and it is to run on less power, how you think the RSX is going to blow the doors off of a 7800 is puzzling. In the end the RSX may be on par with the 7800 and maybe faster in some areas but most certainly not overall or even in the majority of categories.
Well, smart-ass if you click back to my posts in the original /. article heralding the 7800 release and it's tech specs. you will quite clearly see my comments and the time and date of them.
It is no surprise to me, I've worked in this industry for some time and my B.S. detectors work perfectly fine. Also my reality shield is firmly up and fairly impervious to hype.
Seriously who honestly thought Sony would be putting uber 7800's in PS3's? The transistor counts are the same or less for the RSX... exactly how Einstein were you planning for them to make some mega-7800 with the same or less transistor counts? Especially in a console that will be drawing less or equal power for the ENTIRE system than just one 7800?
Sony and MS are the main offenders of keeping things formulaic and predictable. Even being a Sony fanboy and reviewer for four years has not been enough to overcome the truth of the matter: Nintendo's Revolution is my only hope of the game industry being brought out of this slump. Sony and MS are quite openly happy to keep things status quo and keep pumping out derivitive garbage while charging more and more... yay!
The game industry needs a good swift kick in the dick, and I sure hope Mario is the little italian plumber to give the boot.
It creates duplicate stories daily!!!