Not trolling, really, but can someone explain this to me:
1. disney puts out a cartoon with a mouse in it 2. disney owns copyright (and associated mouse trademark) 3. disney sells distribution and reproduction rights for profit 4. time passes 5. suddenly everyone is now allowed to do whatever they like with it for free
just to be clear, I'm all for fair use, the archivability of content, and i understand that somewhere in there is a blurry line between watching the cartoon in a dusty basement room of a library for research purposes and genuine licensable broadcasting. But why should a person, or their family, or their estate, or a company just have their copyright rights whipped away from them?
And where does it lie? if i invent a recipe for rhubarb crumble that tastes perticularly delicious and sell it at my restaurant, sue a few people for copying the recipie in their own restaurants a little too closely but turn a blind eye to people cooking it for their kids (not for profit), 70 years after my death should my continuing restaurant empire give up the rights to their famous rhubarb crumble? Now, we're not talking burgers and salad in layers in a bun here here, we're talking a combination of unlikely ingredients mixed in a particular order and fashion.
Now I also understand that a distinction is being made between published and unpublished content, and personally if i kept diaries that may be of interest to historians it'd be much better if the death+70 years thing covered not just myself, but everyone else named in the diaries, which might be better for memoirs, as for ficional work, can anyone say "douglas adams" and "milk it dry"?
For the full keyboard it'd probably be better to use some kind of e-paper like system, you get the black and white contrast of your normal keys combined with the instant ability to switch languages or to FPS mode, albeit the latter with 4-shade greyscale icons. Color for the sake of color on such a small device seems pointless to me*
*disclaimer: my PDA is about 6 years old, has 8mb ram, supports 16 shades of grey and a small but usable keyboard that you can actually type on, so i'm hardly the ultra techy geek to be commenting on this sort of thing:-)
i worry about this too, as i too have a daughter and have crappy home movies which i plan to burn to dvd to send to her grandparents.
Probably wont be an issue though because the dvd wont actually get there as it will have been intercepted by the police who will raid my house at 4am and arrest me for distributing kiddie porn.
Yeah back in the 56k days i was quite good at DMC and standard Half Life death match, my trademark became getting the final frag to win the map by using my axe or crowbar respectively, it also takes some balls to change to crowbar when there's two of you at 24/25 or 49/50 and still snag the win.
Also played in a mostly 56k TFC clan for quite some time taking on teams with t1s and isdn and winning... i played in defence, and lots of people hated me:-)
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absolutely positively do not attempt to repair, upgrade or generally maintain a user's computer in their house. They will stand behind you watching your every move, their mouse will be gunked up with toxic fluid, their screen will be covered in grease, they will at no time have any os,boot or driver cds to hand, it will be so clogged up with viruses and trojans that just getting the damned thing to boot into safe mode will take you an hour, you will then need to get out of safe mode to connect to the net to get a new driver version, and then you're f**ked.
You can still asses on-site, if it is 100% absolutely a 20 minute job then, sure do it, If you don't want to touch it with a barge pole, walk away. Otherwise you will have to take it back to your garage, and just the box, you need a workbench with 3/4 pre-mounted keyboard, mouse and monitor stations and ps2/vga/serial/usb adapters for them. Stacks of OS cds, boot disk, you will need sysinternals tools on a handy CD and bootable floppies like MemTest86. Some virus scanner software will even run from cd with latest updates just by copying it's progra~1/ directory across to a CDR (i used to use kaspersky avp just like this, very handy)
You will need a station where you can plug a HD straight in and scan it that way, and your seperate permanent internetted-up rig with cd burner , usb key and floppy drive to get those pesky downloads across. (these two need to be physically seperate, the HD diagnostics computer should ideally have no net connection too, it will take three steps to get files from the net onto the user's HD but that's 2 minutes of disk swapping compared with the aforementioned hours of safe mode hell)
Give the customer a reciept for whatever you take away, preferably on a CC pad so you both get a copy and tell them you will phone them exactly 24 hours later, but not before, never say "in about an hour or two" because they will start naggin you.
as for running the business itself, I'll leave that up to other posters but one final handy tip is to have in your car/van a handful of cheapish mice and keyboards, because sometimes all that the customer's problem is is coca cola in the keyboard. Just sell them one for a fiver ($10) on the spot
not my cup of tea, for comparison half life's DMC (Death Match Classic) mod played along these lines
1. spawn 2. run towards nearest big gun 3. kill people 4. die hilariously 5. repeat = fun
and counter strike, (which admittedly i havent played much since one of the original beta's back in 99) goes something like this
1. chose from vast array of guns in a menu and not being a firearms expert have no idea what's what or what's any good about them 2. spawn 3. try to find players on other team, half of whom are camping 4. die from single bullet shot to toe 5. wait 20 minutes for round to end 6. finally repeat = suckage
obviously the former falls into the arcade category and the latter into tactical, so whilst it's most certainly a question of taste i prefer my games to place their emphasis on fast furious fun
What would also be useful would be to have it take another series at different focal lengths, giving you a 2d grid of exposure vs focus. That way you can also composite, say, a band on a stage at a gig with the audience's hands in the foreground, and use the dynamic range to adjust the levels of the lighters that are being held up with the stage lights and the moon in the sky.
Oh, and make it 360 panoramic too...
And take two pictures a few cm apart for stereoscopic images..
All joking aside one day there might just be some uber camrea chip that has essentially a 100*100 array of sensors each taking one pre-set exposure and focal length with a funky lens to divvy up the light coming in to all of them, but with the size and signal-to-noise of current CCD's and the dog-slow speed of flash ram this might be a while off. but i can dream.
a selection of photos (4/5) with radio buttons, and "Select the banana". obviously you might want to combine it with photos of lemons and melons so that scripts dont just look for a mostly yellow photo and are done. Still doesnt help screen readers much though.
why not insert a random number of hidden fields followed by the actual fields, interspaced with other random hidden fields, all of which are named a bunch of random letters? Because if you sent them the HTML in the first place you should also be able to remember that for user X form field "XYZABC" = "name"... ok so kills form autofillers too but, hey i dont use those:-)
As someone who's into seeking out new music I happily pay a few quid to see bands down the local pub/club, and then stump over a fiver for one of their CDRs at the end of the gig if I was suitably entertained, then tell a bunch of mates to go see them if they get the chance. If the sum of all the generates enough cash for them to feed their families then the "music business" is working perfectly fine.
Anecdotaly: possibly the best band i saw at glastonbury 2004 was four young 'uns (three lads and a lass i think) playing in the middle of the saturday afternoon to a deserted beer tent in the backstage area set aside for the circus performers. They were really fucking good but i completely forgot what they were called. Hope they've been keeping it up these past couple of years"
to start it you close the door, to stop it you open the door or ding the time dial yourself
though they are getting harder to track down. Why my toaster needs 5 buttons as well as the time dial i will never know, presumably they'll be getting clocks soon too.
like the fact that every few years a concept car appears that's driven by joystick/tank levers/facial expressions but at the end of the day the current interface* is a good one, tried and tested and in no need of urgent replacement.
i have almost every non-spam email i've recieved since 1998.
Guess that makes me a hoarder:-)...they're mostly on the backup cds i make every time i reinstall windows, and in OE mailboxes, and probably will be never ever read by anyone ever, but they're there. Though i did lose a bunch from around 2002-2004 when i had a hard drive fail on me.
Think about it, there are a lot of people out there who run Windows and Office without actually having paid for it. If they came with ads as default, which required you handing over a credit card num to remove then MS get revenue either way. (Adblocker cracks notwithstanding)
This is what i also find to be a problem with internet help searches, finding 1000 people asking a similar question, but only a small percentage of those are using the same distro and version as you and only a fraction of those actually have a usuable solution or suggestion and only one of those will actually have a solution that is simple, easy and doesnt involve editing a text file from the command prompt whilst standing on your head whistling.
What's needed is a linux help site aggregator that gives you a bunch of checkboxes for your distro, version, processor, wether-or-not-you-are-willing-to-compile-source, wether-or-not-you-are-willing-to-edit-text-config- files and give you none of the above crap, RTFM or asshole responses and only the actual helpful usefull answers, or pointers (or, "i'm really really REALLY sorry but you really actually do have to do something from a prompt here instead of YAST")
This is the norm in the UK, kids on skateboards? phone police (they're "vandalising" the park) kids on seafront? phone police (obviously up to something, surely only pensioners are allowed to enjoy the prom prom prom) kids sat in bus stop, clearly not waiting for a bus, in the rain? phone police (they're probably drinking/sniffing glue/generally being a menace) kids not at home chained to television set? phone police (etc.)
My home town is the epitomy of this attitude, after 30 years of campaigning, and a handful of those with my personal involvement, it might just maybe be getting a skatepark built. Of course there are a bunch of old gippers who insist on spending every hour of the day down the library finidng legal and planning loopholes so they can demand a public enquiry into the planning process because the proposed site has historic archeological significance becase a pile of dirt in the middle might be the buried remains of a saxon latrine. I'm 30 this year and have finally moved out of the place, so am unlikely to get to use said skatepark. The current site is actually, shockingly, attatched to a sports park (with football, tennis and other facilities) despite some attempts to literally get it built 3 miles out of town. Why? because they all vote Tory, as in conservatory, as in conserve. They want the place to be a replica of what it was in 1912 (though they still, oddly, want to park their cars 3 feet from every shop and any attempts at pedestrianisation also get a hammering).
I had a point in there somewhere, oh yes, the first paragraph is an account of some of my police encounters when i was a youth, one of these police even said to us (when we were suspiciously haning around having fun on some steps on the seafront one evening) that it was probably some old biddy who dialled 999. When someone phones 999 they HAVE to investigate.
that town, by the way, is Bridlington, the shittiest shit tip in the furthest part of yorkshire from any real civilisation, where if you sport so much as an eyebrow piercing they clamour to lock you up, and the entire 2 mile stretch of the north seafront is now "over 50s only" flats and houses (ergo: any kids going near that part of town immediatley get the criminal treatment). it wouldnt surprise me if they erect gates at the entrances and only allow over 50s in. of course once they realise that they need people younger than that to feed them, wipe their asses and work illegally for less than minimum wage in the shitty cheap tack shops that make up the laughable attempt at an economy it will be too late. they'll all starve to death and civilisation can move back in and start over. Becase at the end of the day the towns two beaches and surrounding countryside are stunning and easily accessible and i'd love to be able to live there and bring up my own kids there. but seen as the only occupation for the under 30s is being-a-heroin-addict-because-it's-all-so-boring-a nd-depressing we as a family are, instead, moving far far far away/rant
i like that theory myself, and despite being a scientist, like to think that something really wierd is going on: one time i solved a tech support problem using deja vu, my brother was having trouble with an online account and i was about to give up and leave the room when i "remembered" the solution, from having solved it in the future. which was that the account was using an email address he hadn't registered with that website yet! And i was right.
holy shit, gigabit over barbed wire! Here in Yorkshire we have serious trouble getting decent broadband speeds, the prevailing theory being that it must run over the electric fences alongside the farm fields. Used to blame my FPS packet loss on sheep leaning on them.
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i have 3 brothers, doom had 4 player coop. it was a perfect match and so was doom2,duke nukem 3d, quake, quake2 and unreal (original not tournament). When half life came out and we fired up "multiplayer" we were left wandering emtpy facilities for quite some time, picking up weapons and trying to figure out why there weren't any baddies. Really. We'd never ever played deathmatch in about 4/5 years of FPS gaming.
i was beginning to think that i was the only person around here that
a) doesnt impulse buy, sure sometimes i come away with chocolate, but usually i've hunted it down, i'm very picky about my bar selections (i cant stand any form of dried fruit for a start...)
b) LIKES the self service checkout, when all you're doing is stopping in for a 4-pinter of milk* and said chocolate hit and there's not much of a queue you can just bip, bip, dunk in a coupld of coins and you're away. hell, even the veg selection works - though they dont seem to notice when you tell it you're weighing average tomatoes and you're actually buying the twice-as-much organic variety:-)
do you also have 10 items or less/hand basket only lanes in the US? which is sometimes a good go-between, though often has miles longer queues than the normal ailes, my tip when you've got a trolley full: go to the end of the line of lanes furthest from the exit. they seem mostly emptier for me
* 4 pints ~= 2 litres, 1/2 gallon, 10 cups, 3 bugles, one hat, etc.
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Not trolling, really, but can someone explain this to me:
1. disney puts out a cartoon with a mouse in it
2. disney owns copyright (and associated mouse trademark)
3. disney sells distribution and reproduction rights for profit
4. time passes
5. suddenly everyone is now allowed to do whatever they like with it for free
just to be clear, I'm all for fair use, the archivability of content, and i understand that somewhere in there is a blurry line between watching the cartoon in a dusty basement room of a library for research purposes and genuine licensable broadcasting. But why should a person, or their family, or their estate, or a company just have their copyright rights whipped away from them?
And where does it lie? if i invent a recipe for rhubarb crumble that tastes perticularly delicious and sell it at my restaurant, sue a few people for copying the recipie in their own restaurants a little too closely but turn a blind eye to people cooking it for their kids (not for profit), 70 years after my death should my continuing restaurant empire give up the rights to their famous rhubarb crumble? Now, we're not talking burgers and salad in layers in a bun here here, we're talking a combination of unlikely ingredients mixed in a particular order and fashion.
Now I also understand that a distinction is being made between published and unpublished content, and personally if i kept diaries that may be of interest to historians it'd be much better if the death+70 years thing covered not just myself, but everyone else named in the diaries, which might be better for memoirs, as for ficional work, can anyone say "douglas adams" and "milk it dry"?
For the full keyboard it'd probably be better to use some kind of e-paper like system, you get the black and white contrast of your normal keys combined with the instant ability to switch languages or to FPS mode, albeit the latter with 4-shade greyscale icons. Color for the sake of color on such a small device seems pointless to me*
:-)
*disclaimer: my PDA is about 6 years old, has 8mb ram, supports 16 shades of grey and a small but usable keyboard that you can actually type on, so i'm hardly the ultra techy geek to be commenting on this sort of thing
the fake earth having been used to show tv images of a round earth instead of the actual flat one
i worry about this too, as i too have a daughter and have crappy home movies which i plan to burn to dvd to send to her grandparents.
Probably wont be an issue though because the dvd wont actually get there as it will have been intercepted by the police who will raid my house at 4am and arrest me for distributing kiddie porn.
Yeah back in the 56k days i was quite good at DMC and standard Half Life death match, my trademark became getting the final frag to win the map by using my axe or crowbar respectively, it also takes some balls to change to crowbar when there's two of you at 24/25 or 49/50 and still snag the win.
... i played in defence, and lots of people hated me :-)
Also played in a mostly 56k TFC clan for quite some time taking on teams with t1s and isdn and winning
Have mod points today but choosing to add my agreement
absolutely positively do not attempt to repair, upgrade or generally maintain a user's computer in their house. They will stand behind you watching your every move, their mouse will be gunked up with toxic fluid, their screen will be covered in grease, they will at no time have any os,boot or driver cds to hand, it will be so clogged up with viruses and trojans that just getting the damned thing to boot into safe mode will take you an hour, you will then need to get out of safe mode to connect to the net to get a new driver version, and then you're f**ked.
You can still asses on-site, if it is 100% absolutely a 20 minute job then, sure do it, If you don't want to touch it with a barge pole, walk away. Otherwise you will have to take it back to your garage, and just the box, you need a workbench with 3/4 pre-mounted keyboard, mouse and monitor stations and ps2/vga/serial/usb adapters for them. Stacks of OS cds, boot disk, you will need sysinternals tools on a handy CD and bootable floppies like MemTest86. Some virus scanner software will even run from cd with latest updates just by copying it's progra~1/ directory across to a CDR (i used to use kaspersky avp just like this, very handy)
You will need a station where you can plug a HD straight in and scan it that way, and your seperate permanent internetted-up rig with cd burner , usb key and floppy drive to get those pesky downloads across. (these two need to be physically seperate, the HD diagnostics computer should ideally have no net connection too, it will take three steps to get files from the net onto the user's HD but that's 2 minutes of disk swapping compared with the aforementioned hours of safe mode hell)
Give the customer a reciept for whatever you take away, preferably on a CC pad so you both get a copy and tell them you will phone them exactly 24 hours later, but not before, never say "in about an hour or two" because they will start naggin you.
as for running the business itself, I'll leave that up to other posters but one final handy tip is to have in your car/van a handful of cheapish mice and keyboards, because sometimes all that the customer's problem is is coca cola in the keyboard. Just sell them one for a fiver ($10) on the spot
Yeah, My brother and I used to play coop net games, them were the days!
not my cup of tea, for comparison half life's DMC (Death Match Classic) mod played along these lines
1. spawn
2. run towards nearest big gun
3. kill people
4. die hilariously
5. repeat = fun
and counter strike, (which admittedly i havent played much since one of the original beta's back in 99) goes something like this
1. chose from vast array of guns in a menu and not being a firearms expert have no idea what's what or what's any good about them
2. spawn
3. try to find players on other team, half of whom are camping
4. die from single bullet shot to toe
5. wait 20 minutes for round to end
6. finally repeat = suckage
obviously the former falls into the arcade category and the latter into tactical, so whilst it's most certainly a question of taste i prefer my games to place their emphasis on fast furious fun
What would also be useful would be to have it take another series at different focal lengths, giving you a 2d grid of exposure vs focus. That way you can also composite, say, a band on a stage at a gig with the audience's hands in the foreground, and use the dynamic range to adjust the levels of the lighters that are being held up with the stage lights and the moon in the sky.
Oh, and make it 360 panoramic too...
And take two pictures a few cm apart for stereoscopic images..
All joking aside one day there might just be some uber camrea chip that has essentially a 100*100 array of sensors each taking one pre-set exposure and focal length with a funky lens to divvy up the light coming in to all of them, but with the size and signal-to-noise of current CCD's and the dog-slow speed of flash ram this might be a while off. but i can dream.
The w3c should never have handed out "w3c compliant" logos for authors to stick on their web pages.
they should have handed them out to web browser (versions) to stick on their download pages.
a selection of photos (4/5) with radio buttons, and "Select the banana". obviously you might want to combine it with photos of lemons and melons so that scripts dont just look for a mostly yellow photo and are done. Still doesnt help screen readers much though.
why not insert a random number of hidden fields followed by the actual fields, interspaced with other random hidden fields, all of which are named a bunch of random letters? Because if you sent them the HTML in the first place you should also be able to remember that for user X form field "XYZABC" = "name" ... ok so kills form autofillers too but, hey i dont use those :-)
thanks for that, i nearly died laughing, and i'm at work.
As someone who's into seeking out new music I happily pay a few quid to see bands down the local pub/club, and then stump over a fiver for one of their CDRs at the end of the gig if I was suitably entertained, then tell a bunch of mates to go see them if they get the chance. If the sum of all the generates enough cash for them to feed their families then the "music business" is working perfectly fine.
Anecdotaly: possibly the best band i saw at glastonbury 2004 was four young 'uns (three lads and a lass i think) playing in the middle of the saturday afternoon to a deserted beer tent in the backstage area set aside for the circus performers. They were really fucking good but i completely forgot what they were called. Hope they've been keeping it up these past couple of years"
mine has two dials:
1. power
2. time
to start it you close the door, to stop it you open the door or ding the time dial yourself
though they are getting harder to track down. Why my toaster needs 5 buttons as well as the time dial i will never know, presumably they'll be getting clocks soon too.
like the fact that every few years a concept car appears that's driven by joystick/tank levers/facial expressions but at the end of the day the current interface* is a good one, tried and tested and in no need of urgent replacement.
*manual gear shift at user discretion, mind.
i have almost every non-spam email i've recieved since 1998.
:-) ...they're mostly on the backup cds i make every time i reinstall windows, and in OE mailboxes, and probably will be never ever read by anyone ever, but they're there. Though i did lose a bunch from around 2002-2004 when i had a hard drive fail on me.
Guess that makes me a hoarder
Think about it, there are a lot of people out there who run Windows and Office without actually having paid for it. If they came with ads as default, which required you handing over a credit card num to remove then MS get revenue either way. (Adblocker cracks notwithstanding)
This is what i also find to be a problem with internet help searches, finding 1000 people asking a similar question, but only a small percentage of those are using the same distro and version as you and only a fraction of those actually have a usuable solution or suggestion and only one of those will actually have a solution that is simple, easy and doesnt involve editing a text file from the command prompt whilst standing on your head whistling.
- files and give you none of the above crap, RTFM or asshole responses and only the actual helpful usefull answers, or pointers (or, "i'm really really REALLY sorry but you really actually do have to do something from a prompt here instead of YAST")
What's needed is a linux help site aggregator that gives you a bunch of checkboxes for your distro, version, processor, wether-or-not-you-are-willing-to-compile-source, wether-or-not-you-are-willing-to-edit-text-config
This is the norm in the UK, kids on skateboards? phone police (they're "vandalising" the park) kids on seafront? phone police (obviously up to something, surely only pensioners are allowed to enjoy the prom prom prom) kids sat in bus stop, clearly not waiting for a bus, in the rain? phone police (they're probably drinking/sniffing glue/generally being a menace) kids not at home chained to television set? phone police (etc.)
a nd-depressing we as a family are, instead, moving far far far away /rant
My home town is the epitomy of this attitude, after 30 years of campaigning, and a handful of those with my personal involvement, it might just maybe be getting a skatepark built. Of course there are a bunch of old gippers who insist on spending every hour of the day down the library finidng legal and planning loopholes so they can demand a public enquiry into the planning process because the proposed site has historic archeological significance becase a pile of dirt in the middle might be the buried remains of a saxon latrine. I'm 30 this year and have finally moved out of the place, so am unlikely to get to use said skatepark. The current site is actually, shockingly, attatched to a sports park (with football, tennis and other facilities) despite some attempts to literally get it built 3 miles out of town. Why? because they all vote Tory, as in conservatory, as in conserve. They want the place to be a replica of what it was in 1912 (though they still, oddly, want to park their cars 3 feet from every shop and any attempts at pedestrianisation also get a hammering).
I had a point in there somewhere, oh yes, the first paragraph is an account of some of my police encounters when i was a youth, one of these police even said to us (when we were suspiciously haning around having fun on some steps on the seafront one evening) that it was probably some old biddy who dialled 999. When someone phones 999 they HAVE to investigate.
that town, by the way, is Bridlington, the shittiest shit tip in the furthest part of yorkshire from any real civilisation, where if you sport so much as an eyebrow piercing they clamour to lock you up, and the entire 2 mile stretch of the north seafront is now "over 50s only" flats and houses (ergo: any kids going near that part of town immediatley get the criminal treatment). it wouldnt surprise me if they erect gates at the entrances and only allow over 50s in. of course once they realise that they need people younger than that to feed them, wipe their asses and work illegally for less than minimum wage in the shitty cheap tack shops that make up the laughable attempt at an economy it will be too late. they'll all starve to death and civilisation can move back in and start over. Becase at the end of the day the towns two beaches and surrounding countryside are stunning and easily accessible and i'd love to be able to live there and bring up my own kids there. but seen as the only occupation for the under 30s is being-a-heroin-addict-because-it's-all-so-boring-
i like that theory myself, and despite being a scientist, like to think that something really wierd is going on: one time i solved a tech support problem using deja vu, my brother was having trouble with an online account and i was about to give up and leave the room when i "remembered" the solution, from having solved it in the future. which was that the account was using an email address he hadn't registered with that website yet! And i was right.
well even the 22 move "egg" puzzle kicked my ass :-(
holy shit, gigabit over barbed wire! Here in Yorkshire we have serious trouble getting decent broadband speeds, the prevailing theory being that it must run over the electric fences alongside the farm fields. Used to blame my FPS packet loss on sheep leaning on them.
i have 3 brothers, doom had 4 player coop. it was a perfect match and so was doom2,duke nukem 3d, quake, quake2 and unreal (original not tournament). When half life came out and we fired up "multiplayer" we were left wandering emtpy facilities for quite some time, picking up weapons and trying to figure out why there weren't any baddies. Really. We'd never ever played deathmatch in about 4/5 years of FPS gaming.
i was beginning to think that i was the only person around here that
:-)
a) doesnt impulse buy, sure sometimes i come away with chocolate, but usually i've hunted it down, i'm very picky about my bar selections (i cant stand any form of dried fruit for a start...)
b) LIKES the self service checkout, when all you're doing is stopping in for a 4-pinter of milk* and said chocolate hit and there's not much of a queue you can just bip, bip, dunk in a coupld of coins and you're away. hell, even the veg selection works - though they dont seem to notice when you tell it you're weighing average tomatoes and you're actually buying the twice-as-much organic variety
do you also have 10 items or less/hand basket only lanes in the US? which is sometimes a good go-between, though often has miles longer queues than the normal ailes, my tip when you've got a trolley full: go to the end of the line of lanes furthest from the exit. they seem mostly emptier for me
* 4 pints ~= 2 litres, 1/2 gallon, 10 cups, 3 bugles, one hat, etc.