I just pictured a Police Squad like moment where someone goes into a bar and attempts to order a drink, their task being made more difficult because of the surfaces being piled high with "lost" tablets, phones, laptops, gizmos, dongles and widgets
The thing is that unless you're installing professional development tools the "App" is most definitely the way of the future, and in my opinion its been far far far too long coming: No hunting through sites, no downloading from amongst 20 different versions which may or may not be up to date, stable or for your OS/CPU combo, no setup.exe, no installshield wizard with 25 next/back buttons and endless questions, no putting crap on your desktop, no ASK toolbar, no adding a firewall rule, no dependencies to resolve, no repositories to admin,
One place to search them, you click one button, maybe acknowledge some security/permissions with one more click. Done.
And no. APT is not on par with this in terms of user friendlyness, so don't be coming back with how Joe Smith can "just" use it. The closest we had before the App store was the Mac's App-Icon, which you just dragged from the disc/stick into your own apps folder.
Disclaimer: Android Fanboi, Ex Mac owner, Amiga Nostalgicist
From reading slashdot I thought the ribbon was afwul for about two years, until I moved jobs to a place where they had Office 2007 and frankly, after ACTUALLY USING IT I think it's fine. I don't get giddy over it, but I don't miss hunting in tabs of property dialogs launched from sub menus in the menu. Also this File Manager Ribbon actually has a dedicated New Folder button front and centre. I've only been waiting 15 years for that.
Before netbooks came along a couple of years ago I noticed that laptops never got cheaper. The manufacturers constantly upped the specs and kept the price point the same, which just seemed daft to me, which is why when netbooks did start to emerge I thought "it's about bloody time", it just seemed a really obvious thing to do to me
and it's too close, in the wide shot the walls are about 5/6 metres apart, but the view through the portals are as if they are closer, like only a couple of metres
Some of my best code has been in the small hours after drinking, must be the Balmer Peak in action. I remember in the late 90s going to a beach party once, then afterwards bashing out a bunch of cookie handling code. I bet there are tons of websites still using that today:D
Damn right, I was in a bubble company in 1999, we used to play Half Life deathmatch mid afternoon, go to the pub for lunch and decide not to bother going back to work. Oh happy days. I still get paid to press buttons on computers, there are no deathmatches and we try not to get TOO drunk at the pub but FFS it's just a job, it shouldn't define your existence
You make a point that I disagree with, but would like to disagree politely. Yes the Science wasn't front and centre, but it was most certainly an SF film - walking around inside someone's mind! I guess you could call it Conceptual SF rather than "look at my time machine" SF. You could almost extend your argument to Blade Runner : "yeah there was the odd flying car but apart from that it was just a thriller"
Inception - that was original, but they only let Nolan make it cos of all the cash Batman had raked in. On the other hand if Ridley Scot says "I'm making X" then will the studios simply front the cash? I like to think so, and that's a good sign.
Bourne WAS wiping fingerprints down etc up until the midpoint of the first film. After the Clive Owen incident he stopped running and started taking the fight to them, after which he WANTS them to know exactly where he is and what he's doing most of the time, to fuck with them, basically.
Quoting parent (mod that up, not this): "But the real benefit comes from Motorola's own patent portfolio. If Google chooses, it can sign a NATO-style alliance with other Android makers, stating in effect that an attack on one is an attack on all of them. With patents covering some of the most basic aspects of mobile technology in its possession, Google can make it very attractive for $LITIGANT to not only leave Google alone, but to leave all the other Android makers alone, too."
So their argument comes down to "(5) a compilation" . Their interpretation that an album is a compilation of individual songs, which just happen to be performed by the same artist - as opposed to a single work.
Somewhere in there is a point that I agree with: It's not the phone that's the issue it's your level of attention, partners and children talking can have a similar distracting effect. And sometimes it's just your imagination, this morning I was driving to work thinking about how i was going to refactor some code, then realized I'd driven several miles without any memory of it. Fortunately i was just following a van down the road I always go down. Truly on autopilot, but still a little scary.
Amen to that, I have had a similar experience in the UK, and the near-straight route to my home town is a whopping 30 miles shorter via the countryside than the motorway (freeway) network, meaning it takes about the same length of time but is a much more pleasant drive (you can't exactly stop for a picnic and feed the ducks at the side of the motorway) AND because you're averaging 40/50 MPH instead of 70 MPH you're fuel efficiency is higher to boot, can almost make the round trip on one tank.
I liked the way that Mirror's Edge handled this, with the color coding of key buildings and obstacles, and left everything that was "scenic" almost monochrome, really nice visual design
no one buys a computer for the OS anymore (outside of business, obviously). People expect things to be interoperable and don't care what's inside so long as it works and is shiny, so your (linux) phone can take photos, and you can plug it into your (apple) laptop and copy them over, then print them from the printer connected to your (windows) desktop. That's the idea anyway. Electronic goods are disposable as far as meatbags are concerned, if the phone doesn't work anymore, they take it to the shop to get replaced or fixed or they just toss it and buy a new one, nobody but us lot here actually installs or configures an operating system (upgrades, maybe, but they're largely automated now) so the "choice" between office suites and desktop environments is never made by meatbags.
This tend towards realism was started by Counterstrike, in my opinion. Before that deathmatch was a supersonic brawl over the rocket launcher with infinite lives and team games were similarly fast and chaotic. Now game characters are slooow, you're lucky if you're allowed to respawn, guns are, well guns and environments completely lack lava and floaty platforms.
Also, finally played Portal for the first time this weekend, boy that's one surreal game! (and i'm not talking about the physicsy stuff!)
I just pictured a Police Squad like moment where someone goes into a bar and attempts to order a drink, their task being made more difficult because of the surfaces being piled high with "lost" tablets, phones, laptops, gizmos, dongles and widgets
The thing is that unless you're installing professional development tools the "App" is most definitely the way of the future, and in my opinion its been far far far too long coming: No hunting through sites, no downloading from amongst 20 different versions which may or may not be up to date, stable or for your OS/CPU combo, no setup.exe, no installshield wizard with 25 next/back buttons and endless questions, no putting crap on your desktop, no ASK toolbar, no adding a firewall rule, no dependencies to resolve, no repositories to admin,
One place to search them, you click one button, maybe acknowledge some security/permissions with one more click. Done.
And no. APT is not on par with this in terms of user friendlyness, so don't be coming back with how Joe Smith can "just" use it. The closest we had before the App store was the Mac's App-Icon, which you just dragged from the disc/stick into your own apps folder.
Disclaimer: Android Fanboi, Ex Mac owner, Amiga Nostalgicist
From reading slashdot I thought the ribbon was afwul for about two years, until I moved jobs to a place where they had Office 2007 and frankly, after ACTUALLY USING IT I think it's fine. I don't get giddy over it, but I don't miss hunting in tabs of property dialogs launched from sub menus in the menu. Also this File Manager Ribbon actually has a dedicated New Folder button front and centre. I've only been waiting 15 years for that.
Before netbooks came along a couple of years ago I noticed that laptops never got cheaper. The manufacturers constantly upped the specs and kept the price point the same, which just seemed daft to me, which is why when netbooks did start to emerge I thought "it's about bloody time", it just seemed a really obvious thing to do to me
Portal? Really? Sorry, was distracted by the fit bird in the vest.
and it's too close, in the wide shot the walls are about 5/6 metres apart, but the view through the portals are as if they are closer, like only a couple of metres
You've clearly never heard of the Helicopter
Some of my best code has been in the small hours after drinking, must be the Balmer Peak in action. I remember in the late 90s going to a beach party once, then afterwards bashing out a bunch of cookie handling code. I bet there are tons of websites still using that today :D
Damn right, I was in a bubble company in 1999, we used to play Half Life deathmatch mid afternoon, go to the pub for lunch and decide not to bother going back to work. Oh happy days. I still get paid to press buttons on computers, there are no deathmatches and we try not to get TOO drunk at the pub but FFS it's just a job, it shouldn't define your existence
Mogoogola
You make a point that I disagree with, but would like to disagree politely. Yes the Science wasn't front and centre, but it was most certainly an SF film - walking around inside someone's mind! I guess you could call it Conceptual SF rather than "look at my time machine" SF. You could almost extend your argument to Blade Runner : "yeah there was the odd flying car but apart from that it was just a thriller"
Inception - that was original, but they only let Nolan make it cos of all the cash Batman had raked in. On the other hand if Ridley Scot says "I'm making X" then will the studios simply front the cash? I like to think so, and that's a good sign.
Bourne WAS wiping fingerprints down etc up until the midpoint of the first film. After the Clive Owen incident he stopped running and started taking the fight to them, after which he WANTS them to know exactly where he is and what he's doing most of the time, to fuck with them, basically.
Quoting parent (mod that up, not this): "But the real benefit comes from Motorola's own patent portfolio. If Google chooses, it can sign a NATO-style alliance with other Android makers, stating in effect that an attack on one is an attack on all of them. With patents covering some of the most basic aspects of mobile technology in its possession, Google can make it very attractive for $LITIGANT to not only leave Google alone, but to leave all the other Android makers alone, too."
So their argument comes down to "(5) a compilation" . Their interpretation that an album is a compilation of individual songs, which just happen to be performed by the same artist - as opposed to a single work.
Somewhere in there is a point that I agree with: It's not the phone that's the issue it's your level of attention, partners and children talking can have a similar distracting effect. And sometimes it's just your imagination, this morning I was driving to work thinking about how i was going to refactor some code, then realized I'd driven several miles without any memory of it. Fortunately i was just following a van down the road I always go down. Truly on autopilot, but still a little scary.
15 seconds!? You're assuming no wildlife or children are going to magically appear in front of you.
Amen to that, I have had a similar experience in the UK, and the near-straight route to my home town is a whopping 30 miles shorter via the countryside than the motorway (freeway) network, meaning it takes about the same length of time but is a much more pleasant drive (you can't exactly stop for a picnic and feed the ducks at the side of the motorway) AND because you're averaging 40/50 MPH instead of 70 MPH you're fuel efficiency is higher to boot, can almost make the round trip on one tank.
I liked the way that Mirror's Edge handled this, with the color coding of key buildings and obstacles, and left everything that was "scenic" almost monochrome, really nice visual design
I'd forgotten about action quake. As for the hostages and bomb mod, gawd, I can't remember the name either. (scratches head)
no one buys a computer for the OS anymore (outside of business, obviously). People expect things to be interoperable and don't care what's inside so long as it works and is shiny, so your (linux) phone can take photos, and you can plug it into your (apple) laptop and copy them over, then print them from the printer connected to your (windows) desktop. That's the idea anyway. Electronic goods are disposable as far as meatbags are concerned, if the phone doesn't work anymore, they take it to the shop to get replaced or fixed or they just toss it and buy a new one, nobody but us lot here actually installs or configures an operating system (upgrades, maybe, but they're largely automated now) so the "choice" between office suites and desktop environments is never made by meatbags.
someone please make all the linux distro folk read the parent post, as an abused linux end user for over a decade this is exactly what it feels like
This tend towards realism was started by Counterstrike, in my opinion. Before that deathmatch was a supersonic brawl over the rocket launcher with infinite lives and team games were similarly fast and chaotic. Now game characters are slooow, you're lucky if you're allowed to respawn, guns are, well guns and environments completely lack lava and floaty platforms.
Also, finally played Portal for the first time this weekend, boy that's one surreal game! (and i'm not talking about the physicsy stuff!)
Guess you had to be there. It's not like she fell through a glass window onto rusty nails.
Thanks for your reply, i refer you to my original comment (emphasis added)
"when Linux finally arrives on the desktop no home users will have desktops"