I think the analogy was meant to portray the ability of more than a handful of people to decide what is included in the text, as in the Open Source Software movement. In that sense, I think it would be an apples to apples comparision.
In a perfect world, the best ideas will percolate to the top and we'll have a better product. In the real world however, I've noticed that not only the cream rises to the top, but also the scum.
Because of that, there will always be a need for some editing which will cause some to squeal long and loud. The trick will be to find people of integrity to do the editing.
You lazy bastards, get to work! Discover, innovate and become the next Henry Ford to save our sorry asses! I hope someone does come up with a good idea that they can sell, and I hope they only make black ones....take it or leave it.
That's true, people miss that religion can be a cause, but more often than not, it's that the terrorist is a fucking prick who doesn't care about killing innocent people....and all religions have pricks as members.
If you notice, I didn't really agree one way or the other, just stated what I see. I work for a contract agency placing software engineers, etc on contracts for clients. Every one we deal with requires drug testing and background checks before they step through the door.
Whether or not I agree or you agree does nothing to change the policy of the client. You want to work there? You have to take and pass the tests....simple as that. It's not uncommon for this to occur.
I'm sure that will be the problem. Unless you search on Ebay or Craigslist for someone with one in their basement....good luck. I have a 5 1/4 floppy drive and some disks set aside for the exact same reason.....someday I'll want that info and then I'll be all set.
I bet for every 1 person that realizes a lower bill, 5 will have an increase. The reason? The idea sounds good now assuming the variables will remain static....they won't.
As soon as a change is made, the laws of eqaulibrium will kick in and what is sure to happen is the ISP's will adjust their pricing to either maintain (or probably increase) their take.
I agree that we're talking about ancient history in security compared to today.
Also, this was the administrative offices, not the hand out the cash part of the bank. Fingerprints are useless, since the cleaners were the ones suspected, things were wiped down. They just needed more than "I think it's the cleaners" to go on, hence the cameras. I was in the Facilities dept. who had the same access as the cleaners, so we were #2 on the suspect list....
Yeah, well not to rain on your parade, but in a past life (15 yrs ago) I worked in a bank. We had someone stealing stuff from the marketing dept. (they had all the good electronics). So security set up survellance cameras and a VCR to tape the criminal.
Say it with me.....what do you think was missing the next day? That's right, not only the electronic bait, but the cameras and the VCR.
I have this scene flash in my mind's eye of these Ebay Huey's flying into Romainia like the opening scene of Preditor....they come in low over the trees sideways, flashing eBay logo's painted on the sides.
Once they land, out jumps Arnie and his crew, packing toughbook laptops, rackmout equipment chomping on a cigar, looking pissed off at having to go to Romainia. Borat runs over, salutes and grabs some equipment and throws it in the back of a jeep. They ride over to the command tent to get their breifing, set up the surplus Carnivore equipment.
Yes, I have a fertile imagination. I wonder how much is true.
And honestly, don't most corporations carry insurance for their upper management to cover this sort of thing (personal lawsuits)? Unless they have something really damning, the worst that would happen is the insurance would pay off.
These guys aren't in the Enron/Global Crossing/Tyco realm....they're just fucking idiots.
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I think the analogy was meant to portray the ability of more than a handful of people to decide what is included in the text, as in the Open Source Software movement. In that sense, I think it would be an apples to apples comparision.
In a perfect world, the best ideas will percolate to the top and we'll have a better product.
In the real world however, I've noticed that not only the cream rises to the top, but also the scum.
Because of that, there will always be a need for some editing which will cause some to squeal long and loud. The trick will be to find people of integrity to do the editing.
You lazy bastards, get to work! Discover, innovate and become the next Henry Ford to save our sorry asses! I hope someone does come up with a good idea that they can sell, and I hope they only make black ones....take it or leave it.
That's true, people miss that religion can be a cause, but more often than not, it's that the terrorist is a fucking prick who doesn't care about killing innocent people....and all religions have pricks as members.
If you notice, I didn't really agree one way or the other, just stated what I see. I work for a contract agency placing software engineers, etc on contracts for clients. Every one we deal with requires drug testing and background checks before they step through the door.
Whether or not I agree or you agree does nothing to change the policy of the client. You want to work there? You have to take and pass the tests....simple as that. It's not uncommon for this to occur.
When you get out of college and see that almost everyone requires one....you'll change your tune or you'll be taking my order at McDonalds.
-- what more could a hacker ask for?"
Oh, I don't know....how about delivery of a caffe latte? No flavors, please.
Thanks!
Never Fear....we never do anyways...never stops us from commenting though, does it?
Dirt + water + sunshine = Adobe.
Just ask anyone in the southwest.
There are still ads for Stamps.com.
Of all the Dot Bombs that I would have thought would go tits up, this was one.....guess I was wrong.
Now if only I can get LNUX back to $100 a share, I have a chance to get my IRA back into the black.
No fuckin way!
That's fucking cool!
Fucking flames? Fuck me!
Good thing you didn't burn your fucking house down.
The new Chinese counterfiet Cisco's do. They need the extra security when transmitting their captured data securely.
The ability to regain your self respect, dignity and your masculinity....because I'm sure riding that thing would really scream "PANSY".
I'm sure that will be the problem. Unless you search on Ebay or Craigslist for someone with one in their basement....good luck. I have a 5 1/4 floppy drive and some disks set aside for the exact same reason.....someday I'll want that info and then I'll be all set.
Ross Perreault, an ancient presidential candidate
Did you mean Ross Perot? He ran in 1992, and was best known for being fucking batshit crazy, besides rich.
I bet for every 1 person that realizes a lower bill, 5 will have an increase. The reason? The idea sounds good now assuming the variables will remain static....they won't.
As soon as a change is made, the laws of eqaulibrium will kick in and what is sure to happen is the ISP's will adjust their pricing to either maintain (or probably increase) their take.
That won't happen if people start paying less.
I agree that we're talking about ancient history in security compared to today.
Also, this was the administrative offices, not the hand out the cash part of the bank.
Fingerprints are useless, since the cleaners were the ones suspected, things were wiped down. They just needed more than "I think it's the cleaners" to go on, hence the cameras. I was in the Facilities dept. who had the same access as the cleaners, so we were #2 on the suspect list....
Yeah, well not to rain on your parade, but in a past life (15 yrs ago) I worked in a bank. We had someone stealing stuff from the marketing dept. (they had all the good electronics). So security set up survellance cameras and a VCR to tape the criminal.
Say it with me.....what do you think was missing the next day? That's right, not only the electronic bait, but the cameras and the VCR.
Tommyboy? Is that you?
For all of Tommy Boys contemporaries that can't figure out the reference:
Plotline - Tommy Callahan Jr. is a slow-witted, clumsy guy who recently graduated college after attending for seven years
my grandmother has had the same number since her kids where growing up. so ~60 years?
What, like Klondike-5514?
If employees pay peanuts they can only expect monkeys!
Woooha, slow down cheif.
Employers, not employees pay...
and, monkeys work for bananas, not peanuts.
So I guess screw innocent until proven guilty.
Becuase I have bittorrent installed to download Mandrake, I *MUST* have illegal things on my machine?
Screw that report and the assholes who wrote it!
I have this scene flash in my mind's eye of these Ebay Huey's flying into Romainia like the opening scene of Preditor....they come in low over the trees sideways, flashing eBay logo's painted on the sides.
Once they land, out jumps Arnie and his crew, packing toughbook laptops, rackmout equipment chomping on a cigar, looking pissed off at having to go to Romainia. Borat runs over, salutes and grabs some equipment and throws it in the back of a jeep. They ride over to the command tent to get their breifing, set up the surplus Carnivore equipment.
Yes, I have a fertile imagination. I wonder how much is true.
Don't tell me everyone is asking that question.....just because it's a server doesn't mean you don't have to back that up as well.
And honestly, don't most corporations carry insurance for their upper management to cover this sort of thing (personal lawsuits)? Unless they have something really damning, the worst that would happen is the insurance would pay off.
These guys aren't in the Enron/Global Crossing/Tyco realm....they're just fucking idiots.
And I would suspect that people who favor socialisim either are:
in the ruling few
not currently living in a socialist society thinking "Gee, if only we could be part of an experiement like them lucky bastards,
are really unhappy.