Well, really, Google is paying AOL, providing them with exclusive SEO, giving them 300 million dollars in advertising, bending over holding their ankles for the 5%.
It would be really interesting to see if AOL could force Google to make Google Talk work on a closed network which would be completely antithetical to everything Google said when it launched.
I've very surprised to see Google announcing all these policy changes so quick after the AOL announcement. Maybe as part of the agreement AOL said Google had to be public that they were AOL's lapdog. I'm sure that it benefits AOL that stockholders knows who wears the pants in this relationship.
While it might be hard to prove the intent of a carefully managed torrent site, it seems that his computer would have a tons of evidence of the sites connection to piracy. Maybe he removed all his pirated material once he got nervous.
What is interesting is that if AIM opens their network to Google, Google would most likely pressure them into going through the open protocol. If they did that, it would mean that Yahoo and MSN could join it as well. Since Google has the most invested interest in getting all the networks open, since they have by far the smallest user base, it would significantly benefit them to get access to AOL's network, even if it meant Yahoo and MSN could go along for the ride (which Google has encouraged anyway). This could be a big win for everyone and might result in the IM wars being fought entirely in terms of features and experience, not network lockin.
But maybe for all these reasons, AOL will be unwilling to open themselves up, or they might be able to persuade Google to make Google Talk work with AOL's network in a closed manner.
How is it easier? I can't seem to find any reference to lyrics in the new feature, even though the press release mentions them?
I also don't see any reference to lyrics on Yahoo Audio Search. I'm not sure if they were there before, but I wouldn't be surprised if they were both pressured not to provide them recently.
I could understand skepticism about the significance of social search, but Yahoo seems to be focusing on how many of these community features can improve the search relevance experience. Since search engines are so complex and there are so many things to balance, it seems it gets harder and harder to improve an engine through tuning alone, so working on longer term concepts that improve relevancy in new ways might end up creating the next evolution in search relevancy.
But, I do agree that over the past two years search engine relevancy has certainly not improved in the ways mail and maps have. But I think this is less because it is a priority and more because new stragies are needed to improve them.
And while I was very outraged when I first read about Yahoo and the Chinese journalists, I found it much harder to fault Yahoo when I found out that the warrant did not have any information about the accusation. It could have been to track down a murderer, terrorist, or pedophile or it could have a Chinese kid wearing a shirt saying "My government are meanies". Its much harder to expect a company to deny the police information just because they don't like every single crime that country accuses people of. Yahoo! is big enough that they should take a stand when they know what the issue is, but besides leaving China entirely, given what I know now, I can't imagine how Google could have acted the least bit differently.
I fail to see why encryption provides significant anonymity for someone with this intention.
It seems nearly all forms of copyright infringement that the media companies pursue would not be affected by the type of encryption that Skype has. If packets were encrypted on BitTorrent or Kazaa, they would still be decrypted when an **AA agent connected to the network or uploading user. Since encryption would only prevent people from tapping the content, it wouldn't increase anonymity since content in the pipe isn't monitored by **AA. They just monitor what is available and then request that ISP provide personal info on the provider.
I think its pretty clear he was referring to buying downloads, not CDs. He wasn't acknowledging the very limited amount of mp3s that are available for legal download, but it is still true that iPods limit users from using DRMed music from all major providers on their iPods which is a very large percentage of the non-Apple downloads legally available. And its hard to argue that these limitations are for the benefit of consumers instead of Apple. You don't have to use anything but iTunes, but it certainly doesn't hurt you if services are given license to encode FairPlay AAC files. But it could hurt Apple's well-earned near-Monopoly.
Some people argue that any of these non-iTunes services could just provide mp3s, but most labels won't allow it and Napster couldn't just choose to provide mp3s without getting the labels to go along. So there is nothing that can be legally done on anyone's end except Apple's to allow the music one can purchase on Napster to be used on iPods. So I think his comments were fair, and certainly not shown to be "lies!".
About the same settings for me and I've had all my Widgets running since this morning. Though with all the variables Windows XP introduced, I'm not surprised people have different memory experiences.
I think all the products that Yahoo and Google have rebranded have been improvements on the names.
What would I expect to see looking through a Keyhole? Does a Konfabulator "konfab" me? Is DejaNews where I find news that seems vaguely familiar?
Flickr is a good descriptive name and I'm glad they stuck with it.
And even though Google hasn't rebranded Picasa, they've made a bunch of changes to brand it with Google UI (like the stars). I like that Google Earth and Picasa remind me of Google Maps and Google Maps.
Cheap and nasty fast food? How do you figure? I could definitely see Yahoo! Widgets being the prize with that fast food, but I've never heard good branded with anything like widgets.
I'd be interested to know what you like about MapQuest? I know they are number one, but it just seems like they offer close to nothing over Google Maps, Yahoo Maps, and even Virtual Earth. Since I have only tired-kicked them, maybe if I used them more I'd find they had better directions.
"would probably organize a boycott against theatres showing porn"
I think the fundamental problem is that the MPAA ratings are so knee-jerk and contextless that honest sexuality is conflated with porn. It seems the MPAA and probably mainstream American audiences are uncomfortable with sexual intimacy much or than obscenity or gratuitous sexuality, vulgarity, or violence. And since pornography is so prevelant in our society, even if its not up on the cineplex screens, our conception of sex comes primarily from porn and raunchy comedies.
It took about two months before Yahoo created dual logins for flickr and they say users will have to migrate by sometime in 2006. Probably a similar timeframe here. Especially since this integrates with Yahoo 360, My Web 2.0 in much more immediate ways than Flickr did.
I would be interested in seeing the list go on and on?
The companies you mentioned were acquired in many years ago (many in web years) in a time where lots of new ideas floundered and Yahoo was a very different company.
Do you think that Flickr is no longer thriving? Or that Konfabulator is languishing? Or that Oddpost wasn't well integrated into the new Yahoo Mail?
And I'd assume that EGroups became groups.yahoo.com which is the biggest groups community out there.
Geocities was obviously a piss-poor decision, but I guess I never knew why it was so great.
And while Broadcast was among many companies hailed as the beginning the first Web 2.0 that never happened, it seemed every venture into video made early in the decade failed.
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Well, really, Google is paying AOL, providing them with exclusive SEO, giving them 300 million dollars in advertising, bending over holding their ankles for the 5%.
It would be really interesting to see if AOL could force Google to make Google Talk work on a closed network which would be completely antithetical to everything Google said when it launched.
I've very surprised to see Google announcing all these policy changes so quick after the AOL announcement. Maybe as part of the agreement AOL said Google had to be public that they were AOL's lapdog. I'm sure that it benefits AOL that stockholders knows who wears the pants in this relationship.
While it might be hard to prove the intent of a carefully managed torrent site, it seems that his computer would have a tons of evidence of the sites connection to piracy. Maybe he removed all his pirated material once he got nervous.
What is interesting is that if AIM opens their network to Google, Google would most likely pressure them into going through the open protocol. If they did that, it would mean that Yahoo and MSN could join it as well. Since Google has the most invested interest in getting all the networks open, since they have by far the smallest user base, it would significantly benefit them to get access to AOL's network, even if it meant Yahoo and MSN could go along for the ride (which Google has encouraged anyway). This could be a big win for everyone and might result in the IM wars being fought entirely in terms of features and experience, not network lockin.
But maybe for all these reasons, AOL will be unwilling to open themselves up, or they might be able to persuade Google to make Google Talk work with AOL's network in a closed manner.
We'll see.
I'd be interested in hearing some examples of why AOL is evil as opposed to crappy.
I guess one thing that comes to mind is how they try to make it difficult for people to cancel.
I'm just not as familiar with AOL as I am with MS/Yahoo/Google.
Thanks, just discovered it too.
I agree it does make finding lyrics easier, so I guess the NMPA will have to send a message by putting Larry and Sergey in jail.
Well, they look very similar, so Yahoo must have copied it from Google... somehow ;)
How is it easier? I can't seem to find any reference to lyrics in the new feature, even though the press release mentions them?
I also don't see any reference to lyrics on Yahoo Audio Search. I'm not sure if they were there before, but I wouldn't be surprised if they were both pressured not to provide them recently.
With a list of ten items, most of which are redundant, I guess they figured that linking to the lowest-priced service would "clutter" up the results.
It seems since they are rotating in and out results, they should be rotating in and out services (so rotate Napster and YME with Rhapsody, etc).
I could understand skepticism about the significance of social search, but Yahoo seems to be focusing on how many of these community features can improve the search relevance experience. Since search engines are so complex and there are so many things to balance, it seems it gets harder and harder to improve an engine through tuning alone, so working on longer term concepts that improve relevancy in new ways might end up creating the next evolution in search relevancy.
But, I do agree that over the past two years search engine relevancy has certainly not improved in the ways mail and maps have. But I think this is less because it is a priority and more because new stragies are needed to improve them.
Keeping my fingers crossed.
And while I was very outraged when I first read about Yahoo and the Chinese journalists, I found it much harder to fault Yahoo when I found out that the warrant did not have any information about the accusation. It could have been to track down a murderer, terrorist, or pedophile or it could have a Chinese kid wearing a shirt saying "My government are meanies". Its much harder to expect a company to deny the police information just because they don't like every single crime that country accuses people of. Yahoo! is big enough that they should take a stand when they know what the issue is, but besides leaving China entirely, given what I know now, I can't imagine how Google could have acted the least bit differently.
I fail to see why encryption provides significant anonymity for someone with this intention.
It seems nearly all forms of copyright infringement that the media companies pursue would not be affected by the type of encryption that Skype has. If packets were encrypted on BitTorrent or Kazaa, they would still be decrypted when an **AA agent connected to the network or uploading user. Since encryption would only prevent people from tapping the content, it wouldn't increase anonymity since content in the pipe isn't monitored by **AA. They just monitor what is available and then request that ISP provide personal info on the provider.
Is there something I'm missing?
I think its pretty clear he was referring to buying downloads, not CDs. He wasn't acknowledging the very limited amount of mp3s that are available for legal download, but it is still true that iPods limit users from using DRMed music from all major providers on their iPods which is a very large percentage of the non-Apple downloads legally available. And its hard to argue that these limitations are for the benefit of consumers instead of Apple. You don't have to use anything but iTunes, but it certainly doesn't hurt you if services are given license to encode FairPlay AAC files. But it could hurt Apple's well-earned near-Monopoly.
Some people argue that any of these non-iTunes services could just provide mp3s, but most labels won't allow it and Napster couldn't just choose to provide mp3s without getting the labels to go along. So there is nothing that can be legally done on anyone's end except Apple's to allow the music one can purchase on Napster to be used on iPods. So I think his comments were fair, and certainly not shown to be "lies!".
About the same settings for me and I've had all my Widgets running since this morning. Though with all the variables Windows XP introduced, I'm not surprised people have different memory experiences.
I think all the products that Yahoo and Google have rebranded have been improvements on the names.
What would I expect to see looking through a Keyhole? Does a Konfabulator "konfab" me? Is DejaNews where I find news that seems vaguely familiar?
Flickr is a good descriptive name and I'm glad they stuck with it.
And even though Google hasn't rebranded Picasa, they've made a bunch of changes to brand it with Google UI (like the stars). I like that Google Earth and Picasa remind me of Google Maps and Google Maps.
Hmm. I'm running Picture Frame, Maps, Search, Weather, and Stock Ticker and they have between 3 to 9 megs each. What widget is using 40?
But, I agree that 40 megabytes total is still more than I'll probably want to spare.
Cheap and nasty fast food? How do you figure? I could definitely see Yahoo! Widgets being the prize with that fast food, but I've never heard good branded with anything like widgets.
I'd be interested to know what you like about MapQuest? I know they are number one, but it just seems like they offer close to nothing over Google Maps, Yahoo Maps, and even Virtual Earth. Since I have only tired-kicked them, maybe if I used them more I'd find they had better directions.
I didn't get the IMAX reference and was about to reply, but instead looked it up:
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Here's what I found for those interested:
http://www.livescience.com/othernews/050319_imax.
"would probably organize a boycott against theatres showing porn"
I think the fundamental problem is that the MPAA ratings are so knee-jerk and contextless that honest sexuality is conflated with porn. It seems the MPAA and probably mainstream American audiences are uncomfortable with sexual intimacy much or than obscenity or gratuitous sexuality, vulgarity, or violence. And since pornography is so prevelant in our society, even if its not up on the cineplex screens, our conception of sex comes primarily from porn and raunchy comedies.
It took about two months before Yahoo created dual logins for flickr and they say users will have to migrate by sometime in 2006. Probably a similar timeframe here. Especially since this integrates with Yahoo 360, My Web 2.0 in much more immediate ways than Flickr did.
I would be interested in seeing the list go on and on?
The companies you mentioned were acquired in many years ago (many in web years) in a time where lots of new ideas floundered and Yahoo was a very different company.
Do you think that Flickr is no longer thriving? Or that Konfabulator is languishing? Or that Oddpost wasn't well integrated into the new Yahoo Mail?
And I'd assume that EGroups became groups.yahoo.com which is the biggest groups community out there.
Geocities was obviously a piss-poor decision, but I guess I never knew why it was so great.
And while Broadcast was among many companies hailed as the beginning the first Web 2.0 that never happened, it seemed every venture into video made early in the decade failed.
I check all my feeds on My Yahoo once a day, and then once I've read what interests me, I feel done with them. I can't imagine being happy with just randomly presented feeds. Especially one at a time.
Definitely going to stick with My Yahoo for now.
You can do this with the newly upgraded Yahoo Maps. Just enter point A, then Point C, and then in the third location box enter Point B.