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Yahoo! Buys del.icio.us
HellSpam writes "The developers at del.icio.us have announced that they were purchased by Yahoo!. From the post: 'We're proud to announce that del.icio.us has joined the Yahoo! family. Together we'll continue to improve how people discover, remember and share on the Internet, with a big emphasis on the power of community. We're excited to be working with the Yahoo! Search team - they definitely get social systems and their potential to change the web. (We're also excited to be joining our fraternal twin Flickr!)'" For background on this purchase, carre4 writes "Stuart Maxwell, Jeff Barr, and Yahoo! team's Jeremy Zawodny recently did an interview explaining What's so cool about del.icio.us, in which Jeremy gave a non-committal answer about Yahoo acquiring del.ico.us"
i like http://simpy.com/ for social bookmarking. i've found it to be a good delicious alternative.
So what will this mean about current accounts, what is the migration expected to be? and congrats to the del.icio.us guys for getting this buisness built up in under a year!
Google Bookmark (Beta) coming soon....
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Notwithstanding the booster drivel, it both amuses and saddens me that "Web 2.0" is indeed turning out to be just another exit strategy and hype spew for tool makers, as many people said all along.
Yahoo is where good ideas go to die in its evil, uncaring corporate bosom of anti-user hostility. EGroups. Geocities. Broadcast. The list goes on and on.
"When you are old, you become impatient with the way in which the young applaud the most insignificant improvements - the invention of some new valve or sprocket - while remaining heedless of the world's barbarism"
(Julian Barnes - Flaubert's Parrot)
The young and the naive at least have an excuse for credulous optimism. Those old enough to know better usually *do* know better, but have a vested interest in the whole bubble boosterism.
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Yahoo! RUINS de.licio.us
Guess it's better than the 133t speak generation, ughg
Don't anthropomorphize computers: they hate that.
EBay buys Skype. Yahoo buys del.icio.us and konfabulator before that. Adobe buys Macromedia.
Is this the end of the good times? Are we witnessing the beginning of the "real" internet business, where there is no space for startups and the only players have to be the huge ones? I don't say this in a damn-the-megacorps way. I am just worried that this kind of business is finally becoming... well pretty much like EVERY business out there.
Any thoughts?
Global warming is a cube.
The Katrina PeopleFinder project http://katrinahelp.info/wiki/index.php/Katrina_Peo pleFinder_Project was a group of volunteers who put together data from numerous Katrina sites. The team members used del.icio.us to add and tag links to sites with survivor/missing data. It was really a good resource, and the PeopleFinder project ultimately gathered over 640000 records and supported over a million searches.
Scrum.tru.le.scent!
I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate.
...but did it go down smoothly?
He who knows best knows how little he knows. - Thomas Jefferson
Any bets how long until we'll be forced to change our login there and get one of the ridiculous yahoo accounts?
Urgh. *goes export his del.icio.us bookmarks*
Flickr.icio.us, anyone?
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What's interesting is seeing the dynamic of Internet search philosphy developing here. Google's about 'searching' and Yahoo, it seems, is about 'tagging.'
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Looks like you got bitten by the same Slashdot bug that got me a day ago. You thought you were posting to the new top article on Slashdot, and by the time you hit Submit you found out that you've posted to the even newer top article on Slashdot.
THERE'S A BUG HERE FOLKS IN SLASHDOT'S POSTING CODE!
"It's the height of ridiculousness to say for those 9 lines you get hundreds of millions."
Except that it all web2 hype even before Yahoo acquired it. Now that's its been Yahoo'd, it going to become completely irrelevant
There's a fundamental difference between how Yahoo and Google approach a new service:
Yahoo: How do we milk this thing?
Google: How does this benefit our end users?
Not convinced: How many clicks to read new Gmail, and how many to read yahoo mail? And how many ads in each? Or compare blogger to Yahoo360.
Yahoo acquiring a web2.0 hyped servie, is an oxymoron. The web2.0 folks, atleast claim to making stuff easier for end users. Yahoo, on the other hand, works on the exact opposite philiosophy. What's the point of this acquisition then?
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Is there any news about how much Yahoo! paid for del.icio.us?
I have to say, Yahoo! is doing a really good job. I really love konfabulator, and flickr. Del.icio.us is a great addition. Google better get on the ball.
(Here's hoping they offer an option to keep the service ad-free...) I'm supressing my laughter...
What's the point of this acquisition then?
Tagging, pure and simple. It has nothing (or very little) to do with how many ads Yahoo wants to throw at you. Yahoo isn't looking to simply buy eyeballs to boost their ad revenues. Yahoo believes that it can best Google by having humans tag information as opposed to algorithms tag information, which is the way (apparently) Google currently orders the web. This is why Yahoo purchased Flickr, and I suspect it will be the foremost driver of future acquisitions.
It will be interesting to see which philosophy, if any, is "better."
Yahoo already has a nearly identical service. It works but, there is not much of a community behind it since there was no compelling reason to leave del.icio.us to use Yahoo bookmarks.
They're buying del.icio.us for the community not the technology.
The obscure we see eventually. The completely obvious, it seems, takes longer. - Edward R. Murrow
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What are the alternatives since everyone (both here and digg) seem to be bitching a whole lot about it? Is there a free/open source something you can install on your own server? It seems like a simple enough concept, I would think someone had already copied it by now.
Google does not think that.
Google thinks, "How will this benefit our advertisers?"
Anyone have the inside scoup on the deal and how much money they recieved?
Does del.icio.us even have a business model? I wonder how much they paid for it.
So does that mean I need a Yahoo! account now
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With that whole merging accounts and stuff. I'd hate to see what they're going to do with del.icio.us.
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If you're not outraged, then you're not paying attention.
Based off what I've seen in the past, I predict del.icio.us is about to become useless crap, infested with ads, and a generally unpleasant experience.
Every time I've used a service which Yahoo has come on board to, it becomes unuseable crap. And shorly after they come on board I end up stopping using it because it is no longer as good as it once was.
Which is really too bad, because I was beginning to find del.icio.us exceedingly useful to me. Now I'll probably have to export all of my bookmarks and see what else I can find.
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This crap isn't even worthy of a Troll mod. Next time this crap is posted, just bury it with an Overrated mod. Don't give this wannabe troll the compliment.
At last I can hit del.icio.us for tags and descriptions of every search result from Google on pageload (with greasemonkey) without feeling bad!
I'm really, really, really sorry to hear this! I dislike Yahoo and their practices. I will be removing my bookmarks. They had a great product and service. I'm sorry they've been eaten up by the giants.
If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention!
Interesting that this transaction went down in the same week as the tag-based dating site, Consumating was acquired by C|Net. Both were tag-based, and both had been in business for only 12 months or less - very similar situations to Flickr. Big companies are becoming much more aggressive about acquiring promising startups early - and it makes a lot of sense. These acquisitions are in the mid-to-low 7 figures, a bargin compared to trying to buy later for 100 million or more.
it may already be there in the sense that it is quite possible that google base can already do this (i think). Perhaps all they need to do is add a "favourites" template in base's configuration page.
google in a way, might already have this. I don't know, but google base, with a "favourites" template could provide this functionality quite easily, do you think? I've read a little about turning your base entries into rss or atom, and there will be, if there isn't already some type of base web api's to add, edit and delete content.
But now del!.icio!.us! will not a safe password anymore
also, how many clicks to delete the current mail in gmail, and how many to delete in yahoo mail?
I actually just finished writing a very amateurish del.icio.us clone for a project in my class on J2EE. I was planning on GPLing it once the class was done. It seems my timing might not be too bad for such a thing.
Why is it del.icio.us? Couldn't they just as easily have picked delicio.us?
Ruby devs. ;)
I just heard a rumor http://maple.nu/ are looking for developers contanct maple.nu@gmail.com if you feel comfortable using ruby and want to contribute
Just went to my bookmarks and trashed the del.icio.us link.
I was an eGroups member until Yahoo completely destroyed that, though it may be a few years ago now I'm not going to start trusting Yahoo now.
The spam was increasing on del.icio.us anyway, so I guess it's no great loss.
And 1 month later many posts on Slashdot will praise Google's innovations in launching this functionality, and criticize others for copying :)
/. comments has turned this around to being a case of MS copying Google, when timelines clearly proves otherwise.
Like when Google totally ripped off MS Start.com (now Live.com) with ig, but many
just plain not funny.
now Yahoo! can clutter up the homepage, splash ads all over it, decrease the overall speed by about 30%, and dork it up with their ever-THERE "Yahoo!!!!" logo... Woohoo! dep
"hey, could you pass me a paper towel? er.. I mean... DEPLOY ABSORBTION PANEL!"
It takes me 3 clicks to read an email in Yahoo mail:
Click to login
Click on Inbox
Click on the email.
How many clicks does it take in gmail?
Computers don't make mistakes. What they do, they do on purpose.
Let's face it - in the Web 2.0 world, one of the most important things is user interaction. Sure, Yahoo is known all around the blogosphere as a good netizen - but does this mean they are commited to the del.icio.us philosophy? Web 2.0 is all about the user. del.icio.us, and many other popular sites such as http://www.kuro5hin.org/ and http://www.digg.com/ function as kind of a "podcast for news" allowing users access to many new news sites posted by the blogees themselves. However, one only sees material the major news services have posted on Yahoo News. By this hostile takeover of del.icio.us, Yahoo becomes able to more leverage the blogosphere and its many netizens.
Click to login
;)
Click on the email.
33% more efficient! Thus, 33% more awesome
Do this: switch on personalized search for yourself, http://www.google.com/psearch . Then, search for something and visit the links it shows you. Then go back to Personalized Search, and star the items you want to add. You can tag them, add notes, and there you go ...
It's just not called Google Bookmarks yet.
Let it go, man. You sound like some pathetic guy who's whining about his ex from 5 years ago. Darl must've really hurt you. Did you catch him in bed with your father or something?
Oh great, just the day my del.icio.us plugin for Google Desktop appears on their site ...
That's it then, for the feature most loved about del.icio.us: The dead simple interface. Now it'll be 2+ links away from the main page, accessible only through their enormously bloated I-wish-I-was-using-lynx-right-now interface, with a password form that for some stupid reason doesn't work with the Password Generator.
I guess I'll just have to backup my 2393 bookmarks and 3482 unique tags (as of today) and, dunno, hope someone builds an open source version.
It would be great if every we product yahoo buys could conform to the yahoo music standard of requiring Netscape 4.7 on macs. Hooray for old school browsers!
I think we should be mourning companies that are aquired, not celebrating.
Says Herman Johnson, CIO of Mail Order Meats, 'my site was getting pounded hard by a bunch of yahoos who seemed to have no interest in spicy smoked meats. I don't know where they were coming from but it was one more in a long series of unfortunate events that burned through the last of my IPO money. Earlier this year I had already moved the offices from a 200,000 sq. ft. high rise in Mountain View to a corner of my parent's basement to try to conserve cash.'
'Suddenly this storm of activity hit. They used up all my bandwidth but didn't buy anything, only leaving rude innuendoes in the forums about my kielbasa sausages. It was just time to try something new. Plus my mom needed the space in her deep freezer where I kept my inventory and the Slim Jims kept disappearing. I suspect an inside job. I told my dad I know it's him and if I ever catch him I will call the police.'
Mail Order Meats (Stock symbol MOM) which once reached a high of 212 1/8 dollars a share now trades over the counter at 0.00004 cents.
Liberals call everyone Nazis yet they are the closest thing to it.
I love the concept of Delicious.
However, I really hate how I have to wait everytime I want to search/edit my bookmarks. I really wish that there was some kind of external app (Powermarks style) that let me easily play with my bookmarks and update/sync from Delicious only in the background.
Anyone knows anything like that?
Google: How does this benefit our end users?
If you think Google is about benefitting users and not making money, you're naive. Google is a public company now. Their sole responsibility is to their shareholders and not their "users".
And how many ads in each?
Yahoo has 1 ad at the top. Period. GMail has ads all along the side. So if you're counting numbers, GMail loses.
And more importantly: Google digs through your email to serve you ads. Don't you people find this just a little bit creepy? And these ads benefit the users.. how? Are they there to make money for GMail, or to somehow magically improve the content of your email message?
Does anyone know how much Yahoo paid for del.icio.us?
NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.
Please, don't let them buy all the good free stuff available.
Alexis 'jeriqo' BRET
Well, if benefiting the end users makes money, then they would be appeasing their shareholders, wouldn't they?
I am a very heavy user of del.icio.us not only in bookmarking sites but also to search for valuable content. What sets del.icio.us apart from the other bookmarking tools is its simplicity.
Now that yahoo has taken over del.icio.us, I hope, they do not mess with its basic structure and looks which I believe is its USP.
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I like http://www.kaboodle.com/ - more than just bookmarking really. Useful for collecting/sharing research etc.
Alternatively, if you're just looking for fast local searching, there's delimport, which periodically sucks down your del.icio.us bookmarks and indexes them with Spotlight.
I just deleted my del.icio.us account. I don't want my Gmail account to end up like my anicent Yahoo mail account; not even able to be used because a billion spam emails make it past the filter every second.
Don't you think it's really interesting that the moment something like del.icio.us is bought, the knee-jerk reaction of most of us can almost be counted on to follow this pattern:
...just wins.
(i) How do I get away from them?
(ii) When is Google going to welcome me home?
I think it is amazing how much trust we automatically place in Google. I always find myself thinking, "Oh, Google wants this information about me? Sure, here you go. Have my phone number and social security number too."
Honestly, if Google offered an on-line password-management service, millions of us would flock to it. But if Yahoo! or Microsoft, or any other company did it? Forget it.
And all this for a company who scans our email in order to serve us ads. Someone should do a sociological study of this phenomenon.
This is trust, this is customer loyalty, this is why Google just...
"Stop throwing the Constitution in my face! It's just a goddamned piece of paper!" -- George W. Bush
Everyone's got a price.
Yahoo! Buys del.icio.us
Wonderful headline.
I'll take Why company names shouldn't have punctuation in them for $100, Alex.
I like knowing that my one click deletes my Yahoo mail, whereas my one click in Gmail only deletes MY copy while Google still retains a second undeleted copy in their index forever.
"We're excited to be working with the Yahoo! Search team - they definitely get social systems"
Yet - they get how to cover your PC with crap. Very social of them.
Oh, wait, maybe that was "socialist"...as in "we own your desktop and your browser"...
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The current generation of Yahoo Mail is old tech, so of course it takes more clicks to do things than it does in Gmail. However, the new generation of Yahoo Mail is in private beta right now and it has all the AJAX/DHTML goodness that Gmail has and more. It should be in public beta soon.
that Google didn't make an offer.
And even though they bitched about a number of things, when there were simple solutions (like, "Try Google," or, "Try FireFox"), they'd rather just keep doing it their old way. I think it is a combination of their complaints being just minor nitpicks more than real, aggrevating issues, the barrier to moving to something new, and perhaps a little bit of intimidation, since none of them are computer savvy. That is, they have a relationship with their computer currently that is like the trenches in WWI. Trying something new would be like making an assualt - it might work, but probably won't, and it's probably going to involve a lot of casualties either way. Best to just sit tight in the trench, and hope the computer is happy to do the same.
I could not justify my existence if I were a turkey farmer. Would I terminate myself? Undoubtably, yes.
now who's gonna buy reddit? i liked the julian barnes quote further up. exactly true.
... given that Yahoo's policy of turning over Chinese dissidents to Beijing is so badly mis.ta.cn
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You guys have no sense of humor. I never have mod points when I see a travesty of modding such as this.
You go, daeley. Your post was simply..... Scrumtrulescent.
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Downloaded, installed very quickly. Good interface, lots of options to play with, and with the RSS feeds it generates it can integrate with my existing site usefully. Good tip.
Once anything gets swallowed up by Yahoo, it goes to shit, like when eGroups became Yahoo! Groups.
Check out StumbleUpon. It really is a great service, and it's not corporatized. It's supported by donors.
Steve Magruder, Metro Foodist
deli.cio.us which I feel is a more natural separation of the syllables.
So we have the task before us of making sure people know what an awkward 'break' the Yahoo-'owned' meme represents, and also make sure that something really AWFUL gets put up on deli.cio.us for people to encounter instead when they type what they naturally think, i.e. http://deli.cio.us/
resigned
Guys, whatever Google fanatics say, I am one of persons actually use (near) all Yahoo services.
I noticed they upgraded their search to much more personalized stuff. "Myweb"
Also they added public bookmarks feature: "Myweb 2.0"
While thinking one of the huge companies stole enthusiast created things as del.icio.us, I heard this story.
They could move along as in fact, "online bookmarks" is a yahoo invented feature back in '98 or earlier. Everyone who uses yahoo toolbar knows it. The "public" feature was invented by del.icio guys and they bought it.
Right thing to do.
Also not to mention, GMail indexes, analyses EVERY WORD in your mail to show "relevant ads".
Nobody including spyware developers could dare to analyse everything. We attack them since they monitor the URL user is on, Google becomes "hero" while it monitors every single private mail.
It is a karma killer to bitch about Google and their dark practices but enough is enough. People started to act like cult members or something.
Pissing off users will make shareholders very happy.
You USians are very funny.
IANAL but write like a drunk one.
Why should I care? I'm not talking about money.
The guy you replied to was, so I just assumed you were.
I can't really speak for him, but I wasn't trying to take the stance that podcasting itself is "unsuccessful" or is going to fade away any time soon. People will continue to do it as long as it is doable, like most things, popular and unpopular. But popularity doesn't magically turn into profit, and profit is the most common way to measure success.
To clarify: the original suggestion was that most podcasting-based startups (which may include directories, hosting services, podcast networks, and individual podcasters) are basically worthless. BigCos will buy a few of them up among all the hype, but unless your company is among them, you're probably going to get burned when the hype dies down.
Don't become a regular here -- you will become retarded.
hopefully a page caching / saving feature will be added which is already implemented at sites like furl and spurl
There are lots of alternatives to del.icio.us (and not only Simpy). Unfortunately only few have such a big community (and community rulez). Look at http://www.irox.de/roxomatic/856.
http://www.digforporn.com/ is an x-rated delicious clone. I think it will become bigger than delicious. Yahoo is running delicious into the ground. The site is always done