I used to be a Thundercats fanatic. I think what I most enjoyed about them was that they followed a coherent* overall story progression if you watched them in order.
* Well, as coherent as a show about talking cats from outerspace fighting a mummy can be.
The biggest problem with GTA is that the controls suck. After you lose the 100th mission because of crappy controls and the horrible camera a few times, it stops being fun, and degenerates into seeing who can ramp the Faggio off the fire escape the best.
Something that I think about when I think about the XBOX360 and the PS3 is that everything there is possible with worse graphics on the XBOX or PS2. With the NES, you could do stuff you couldn't do on the Atari. With the SNES you could have more sprites onscreen, and process more, so you could have cooler games. With the N64 you could get 3D games running, and with this generation you can finally fully enjoy 3D worlds. But this generation that's coming up on us, besides the Revolution, offers nothing we haven't seen before.
So for the SNES, having better graphics made the games cooler, but the PS3 and 360 suck because all they have is better...graphics?
Your logic is impeccable.
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The DS has shown it can be about the experience. The PSP has multimedia functions and better technology and has more traditionally successful console style games. Yet the DS is in the lead, I can only assume because it offers an experience that can't be found anywhere else.
I'm sure it doesn't have anything to do with the GBA compatibility and Nintendo's nearly 20 year lock on the handheld market.
To look at it another way, the fact that Sony's portable is selling as close to the DS as it is should probably make Nintendoa a little nervous.
Yes, but given the choice of one console, (which is a lot of people already, and it's going to be a lot more people now given the cost of the next-gen consoles) do I buy the one that plays Madden and Animal Crossing and Nintendogs and whatever other goofy but fun crap Nintendo comes up with, or do I buy the one that plays Madden and Halo 3 in HD?
This is a disingenuous statement. If the Gamecube's current state is any indicator, you can play the fun crap that Nintendo comes up with (ignoring the fact that they put out a lot of turds, as well) and pretty much nothing else. OR, you can play the huge library of titles for the PS2, which includes a vast number of excellent third party and PS2 exclusive games that blow much of Nintendo's increasingly meager lineup out of the water.
I like Nintendo and I hope the Revolution can get them back in the game, but there's no reason to ignore reality.
Just on the first page of results for "Xbox 360" right now there is:
Premium (+extras) with ~45 minutes left, bidding only up to $380, reserve not met.
Premium (+extras) with ~45 minutes left, only $10 over retail cost.
Premium with ~45 minutes left, $40 under retail cost.
Premium with no bids at all ~30 minutes left.
Premium with ~20 minutes left, 4 bids, at cost.
Premium with ~10 minutes left + game, under retail.
Core system, ~10 minutes left, no bids.
Core system, ~10 minutes left, no bids
Premium with ~30 minutes left $5 over retail.
Premium with ~30 minutes left $10 over retail.
Premium with ~30 minutes left with buy it now at cost, and no bids.
There are some going for way over retail (for whatever reason), but for the most part they are just sitting there without much markup. The ones with a large markup on the buy it now remain unsold. Not trying to draw any conclusions here, but the ebay market isn't going bezerk for them anymore.
The gluttony implied by complaints of having to wait "four fucking hours" for a video game should make you ashamed. Some people don't have medical care / food / a place to live, and another segment of the population can't wait four hours for a video game. If you happen to be an American, thanks. You've made me ashamed to be an American.
If you accidentally cut off your foot with an axe, don't cry about it and rush to the hospital, you selfish glutton. Some people don't have legs!
Microsoft is in the home "living room entertainment" market for good now. They will figure out a way to make it profitable.
This is a grand assumption.
The current XBox 360 platform requires them to get a lot of games published for their platform to make a profit on it. I don't see a problem with this approach.
Well, the obvious problem would be if they are unable to get a lot of games published on their platform. It's not like that is a rare occurence in the console world. The gaming landscape is littered with the corpses of dead consoles.
They also don't possess a stable of "must have" exclusive games like Sony and Nintendo do. They have Halo. There is no Gran Turismo, Mario, Zelda, Metal Gear, Jak, etc. If the vast majority of their games are available on other platforms and they don't have a good number of exclusives, what advantage is there to going with a 360 over a PS3 or a new PC?
They also don't have any sort of takeup in the Japanese market. This is a large chunk of the world's supply of potential console sales, as well as a large chunk of developers.
Sony is doing the same thing with the PS3 and no one is talking about them bowing out of the market.
Sony is coming into this with an enormous lead in the market. Enormous. This isn't a similar case to Nintendo's blunder with the N64. The only real leg up the 360 has is their early launch, which they seem to have squandered, and the Live service...and most console gamers don't play online. It's a fraction of their already small market segment.
I'm not saying that they aren't going to be able to turn it around, just that the deck is not stacked in their favor at this point.
The one year lead Microsoft's November launch gave them over the expected PS3 launch will give them the time they need to get a wide platform of games in place.
Games that will most likely see ports to the PS3.
That's a big advantage Sony had last time around.
The Dreamcast, which at this point is very comparable to the 360, had this advantage over the PS2. And it failed miserably...and Sega was already established in the industry.
As the home entertainment system converges with things like the stereo and the home PC, I think Microsoft has the advantage. At some point customers are going to be picked up that aren't primarily gamers, at when that happens, I think XBox will be well placed to take the lead in the (by then) home entertainment system category.
If you think this is going to be a sizable number of consumers, I think you are dreaming.
It means that they said "We're going to sell X consoles in Y days" and don't come anywhere near to meeting their target.
It means that they will have wasted any advantage they were trying to gain by rushing their console out early to get a jump on Sony.
It means that their second console is a money pit to the corporation at large, much like the last one was, thus greatly decreasing the odds of ever seeing another Microsoft console. They need to turn a profit this time around. If they aren't able to meet their sales goals while they are the only nextgen system on the market, how are they going to do it when they have competitors?
Second life can be fun, but trust me when I say that this:
It sounds like these players ought to give Second Life a go if they've never tried it and are looking for a massively multiplayer online world (and community) that accepts anyone, however they want to be.
is code for "everyone wants to be a furry or a vampire."
Game Informer is really bad about writing ridiculous advertisements instead of game previews, but they are generally honest in their post-release reviews. They give out a lot of 4's and 5's.
It looks like not only are 360s selling for cheap, but large numbers of people are having trouble selling their 360s at all.
That is kind of sad considering how few MS has actually shipped. I think they may have blown it unless they can turn things around in the next three months or so.
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I used to be a Thundercats fanatic. I think what I most enjoyed about them was that they followed a coherent* overall story progression if you watched them in order.
* Well, as coherent as a show about talking cats from outerspace fighting a mummy can be.
The biggest problem with GTA is that the controls suck. After you lose the 100th mission because of crappy controls and the horrible camera a few times, it stops being fun, and degenerates into seeing who can ramp the Faggio off the fire escape the best.
Not that there's anything wrong with that...
Something that I think about when I think about the XBOX360 and the PS3 is that everything there is possible with worse graphics on the XBOX or PS2. With the NES, you could do stuff you couldn't do on the Atari. With the SNES you could have more sprites onscreen, and process more, so you could have cooler games. With the N64 you could get 3D games running, and with this generation you can finally fully enjoy 3D worlds. But this generation that's coming up on us, besides the Revolution, offers nothing we haven't seen before.
So for the SNES, having better graphics made the games cooler, but the PS3 and 360 suck because all they have is better...graphics?
Your logic is impeccable.
The DS has shown it can be about the experience. The PSP has multimedia functions and better technology and has more traditionally successful console style games. Yet the DS is in the lead, I can only assume because it offers an experience that can't be found anywhere else.
I'm sure it doesn't have anything to do with the GBA compatibility and Nintendo's nearly 20 year lock on the handheld market.
To look at it another way, the fact that Sony's portable is selling as close to the DS as it is should probably make Nintendoa a little nervous.
Yes, but given the choice of one console, (which is a lot of people already, and it's going to be a lot more people now given the cost of the next-gen consoles) do I buy the one that plays Madden and Animal Crossing and Nintendogs and whatever other goofy but fun crap Nintendo comes up with, or do I buy the one that plays Madden and Halo 3 in HD?
This is a disingenuous statement. If the Gamecube's current state is any indicator, you can play the fun crap that Nintendo comes up with (ignoring the fact that they put out a lot of turds, as well) and pretty much nothing else. OR, you can play the huge library of titles for the PS2, which includes a vast number of excellent third party and PS2 exclusive games that blow much of Nintendo's increasingly meager lineup out of the water.
I like Nintendo and I hope the Revolution can get them back in the game, but there's no reason to ignore reality.
The popularity of emulators and roms sites says that there's a lot of people who still aren't bored with old nintendo games.
And combined with the "homebrew" scene, it says that there's a lot of people who are bored with paying for their games.
Did you really look? Really?
Just on the first page of results for "Xbox 360" right now there is:
Premium (+extras) with ~45 minutes left, bidding only up to $380, reserve not met.
Premium (+extras) with ~45 minutes left, only $10 over retail cost.
Premium with ~45 minutes left, $40 under retail cost.
Premium with no bids at all ~30 minutes left.
Premium with ~20 minutes left, 4 bids, at cost.
Premium with ~10 minutes left + game, under retail.
Core system, ~10 minutes left, no bids.
Core system, ~10 minutes left, no bids
Premium with ~30 minutes left $5 over retail.
Premium with ~30 minutes left $10 over retail.
Premium with ~30 minutes left with buy it now at cost, and no bids.
There are some going for way over retail (for whatever reason), but for the most part they are just sitting there without much markup. The ones with a large markup on the buy it now remain unsold. Not trying to draw any conclusions here, but the ebay market isn't going bezerk for them anymore.
I wasn't trying to vouch for the correctness of the original assertation, just pointing out the probable source.
What are you talking about? Soap is in no way antibacterial by default.
I'm assuming he is talking about something like this.
The gluttony implied by complaints of having to wait "four fucking hours" for a video game should make you ashamed. Some people don't have medical care / food / a place to live, and another segment of the population can't wait four hours for a video game. If you happen to be an American, thanks. You've made me ashamed to be an American.
If you accidentally cut off your foot with an axe, don't cry about it and rush to the hospital, you selfish glutton. Some people don't have legs!
Now, DON'T forget to work on the GAMEPLAY too, eh?
Picture this:
You're in a dark room full of crates...OH MY GOD A MONSTER!
Microsoft is in the home "living room entertainment" market for good now. They will figure out a way to make it profitable.
This is a grand assumption.
The current XBox 360 platform requires them to get a lot of games published for their platform to make a profit on it. I don't see a problem with this approach.
Well, the obvious problem would be if they are unable to get a lot of games published on their platform. It's not like that is a rare occurence in the console world. The gaming landscape is littered with the corpses of dead consoles.
They also don't possess a stable of "must have" exclusive games like Sony and Nintendo do. They have Halo. There is no Gran Turismo, Mario, Zelda, Metal Gear, Jak, etc. If the vast majority of their games are available on other platforms and they don't have a good number of exclusives, what advantage is there to going with a 360 over a PS3 or a new PC?
They also don't have any sort of takeup in the Japanese market. This is a large chunk of the world's supply of potential console sales, as well as a large chunk of developers.
Sony is doing the same thing with the PS3 and no one is talking about them bowing out of the market.
Sony is coming into this with an enormous lead in the market. Enormous. This isn't a similar case to Nintendo's blunder with the N64. The only real leg up the 360 has is their early launch, which they seem to have squandered, and the Live service...and most console gamers don't play online. It's a fraction of their already small market segment.
I'm not saying that they aren't going to be able to turn it around, just that the deck is not stacked in their favor at this point.
The one year lead Microsoft's November launch gave them over the expected PS3 launch will give them the time they need to get a wide platform of games in place.
Games that will most likely see ports to the PS3.
That's a big advantage Sony had last time around.
The Dreamcast, which at this point is very comparable to the 360, had this advantage over the PS2. And it failed miserably...and Sega was already established in the industry.
As the home entertainment system converges with things like the stereo and the home PC, I think Microsoft has the advantage. At some point customers are going to be picked up that aren't primarily gamers, at when that happens, I think XBox will be well placed to take the lead in the (by then) home entertainment system category.
If you think this is going to be a sizable number of consumers, I think you are dreaming.
Your logic astounds. Just thought I'd remind you of that, in case you thought you had the ability to reason.
Har har.
*humphumphumphumphump*
Well, what does "blown it" mean to you?
It means that they said "We're going to sell X consoles in Y days" and don't come anywhere near to meeting their target.
It means that they will have wasted any advantage they were trying to gain by rushing their console out early to get a jump on Sony.
It means that their second console is a money pit to the corporation at large, much like the last one was, thus greatly decreasing the odds of ever seeing another Microsoft console. They need to turn a profit this time around. If they aren't able to meet their sales goals while they are the only nextgen system on the market, how are they going to do it when they have competitors?
*ahem* "There wasnt a whole lot of dialogue in the trailer so I am not sure how you figured out the bad acting bad." ~ grandparent poster
I don't care if it was your uncle, cousin, grandma, or great aunt Cindy who posted it. My position stands.
Second life can be fun, but trust me when I say that this:
It sounds like these players ought to give Second Life a go if they've never tried it and are looking for a massively multiplayer online world (and community) that accepts anyone, however they want to be.
is code for "everyone wants to be a furry or a vampire."
But in the meantime, you can keep on truckin' as an anonymous reactionary, I'll keep posting my legitimate opinions legitimate.
That's making an awful large assumption about the legitimacy of your opinions.
It also seems to have an extra word.
Two problems with your post. "Super goth" "super cool" don't go together unless you toss an appropriate not in there.
You're posting on slashdot. Just thought I'd remind you in case you forgot what that makes you.
Game Informer is really bad about writing ridiculous advertisements instead of game previews, but they are generally honest in their post-release reviews. They give out a lot of 4's and 5's.
It looks like not only are 360s selling for cheap, but large numbers of people are having trouble selling their 360s at all.
That is kind of sad considering how few MS has actually shipped. I think they may have blown it unless they can turn things around in the next three months or so.
I think eliminating the large side pieces from the unit will solve some of the cramping problems.
I hope so, anyway. It's really uncomfortable to play the way it is now.
Some people don't mind supporting companies that provide a worthwhile service. I'd rather play Mario on my TV than on my computer.
TV-out?
Sorry, I'm just not into Family Guy. The Simpsons it's not. (Please be gentle!)
That's like saying, "I'm just not into genital herpes, it's no syphilis!"
And the Democrats aren't?
I didn't say that or imply that.
It's going to be between the incumbent, Rick Perry, and another Republican challenger, Carole Keeton Strayhorn.
Carole, it should be noted, is the mother of White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan.
The GOP is a small incestuous world.