How the fuck does this kind of pig headed zealotry get modded Insightful?
You should take things on their individual merit rather than some sort anti-whoever prejudice.
Mono is NOT merely to allow you to run Windows.NET applications, it is there to provide a platform independant runtime which you can develop in C# (for example) for.
The people hired to do this projet should NEVER have been allowed to bid, they obviously don't have the developers capable of creating even the most basic DB design to the required standard.
The problems with the DB don't appear to be ones born through poor speccing, it is incompetance. There is never an excuse for un-indexed tables.
The incompetance of US Government contractors is nothing short of astonishing.
How has this been allowed to happen? From the little info I've managed to glean from TFA it seems the schema has been designed by somebody who doesn't know even the rudiments of database design.
How did somebody like this get such a lucrative contract? Is there no accountability in your Gov?
At best it seems the Government gives these contracts out at random, without even the most basic vetting procedures ("Does your company have anything to do with software design?"). A more distrustful person might suggest there is something more sinister going on...
...quite how little the real world cares about Linux on the desktop
If Linux was that popular, or that sensible an option then Flash would be working PERFECTLY in under a week, as it it, it would appear nobody who matters, cares.
Burn.
By the way, dispite what people say, and at least one makes sure they tell me every fucking day, if you replace Average Joe's Windows machine with Ubuntu, he wont go three months without doing all of the below:
A) Breaking it. B) Hating it. C) Missing thousands of Windows features.
Linux is NOT ready for the desktop, at the present rate it will NEVER be ready. You heard, NEVER. The people who swan around claiming that we're all prejudiced and Ubuntu is AS USER FRIENDLY as Windows are simply deluding themselves.
This should hurt, Apple took a Unix, and in 2 years create one of the most intuative, user friendly OSs around today.
The Linux community have been going strong for over 15 years and have produce a VERY VERY good server OS, and a Deskop OS held together with scotch tape, blutack and string.
As we all know, all manner of rich web applications can be created using ONLY XHTML and Javascript. So I must assume that the REAL problem this chap has is ease of use.
Now I'm sure there's something to be said for that, and yes, it'd be nice if browsers could agree on an implementation and stick to it, but shit happens.
However the when you start sacrificing power for ease of use, you'll eventually end up with RoR. At which point all the serious developers will tell you to piss off and you'll end up with a language good for doing about four things.
What is with this strange new breed of programmer who thinks that everything should be crammed into the MVC pattern?
Sensibilities be damned, they're going to make it work like Ruby-On-Rails if it kills them. Why not look at the requirement and then decide on an established design pattern (if any!)? Don't go trying to change a language we're all very happy with just because your knowledge is limited to one paradigm.
We should going back to designing things that work, not working things to a design.
Javascript (well, ECMAScript) is actually quite powerful. True it lacks a few of the features you'd expect to see on common UI languages (multhreading anybody?), but you can't have a strop and fragment ECMAScript because of that.
It is, by the way, a prototype-based language, so the sooner you stop deluding yourselves into thinking that you can code like it's OO, the better.
If you want to complain about something, whine about the totally fucking USELESS Document Object Model (DOM) we're given to work with today, talk about the weakest link... If there's ANYTHING that needs a total overhaul on the web today, its the DOM.
Hurhur!!! Charge the Western devils top dollar for our superior internets!! Capitalism isn't all that bad when we're on the business end of a supply-demand scenario.
Ok, so those of you who drive to work in the morning may like the sound of this, but on a global level, is a cheap source of Oil a good thing?
The lack of oil is forcing innovation in the energy market. We're looking to build cars with NO carbon emissions, fuel cells with years of life, fusion reactors and other Star Trek sounding things.
If we make oil cheap, then we'll continue to wreck the planet.
Of COURSE it is Microsoft! You've backed yourself into a corner by making agreements with the hardware vendors that you WILL force users to upgrade with each iteration of Windows.
Now this worked fine when there were literally NO viable alternatives to Windows, but you've rested on your laurels too long, now people have options.
You're stuck between a rock and hard place, either fuck the vendors and lose out on all that lovely money, or continue to fuck your users and hope they don't notice.
No mention of what's going to happen to the police who have have abused their power. Probably the same thing that happened to the chaps who shot that poor Charles de Menezes eight times in the head without provocation, nothing.
What ever happened to the days of the local Bobby? Friend to all law abiding citizens, there to help and not hinder. Nowdays when you REPORT a crime they're rude to you.
Well said. Enough whining and thinking the world owes you a favour.
Oh, and the chap talking about "shared wireless broadband multiplexing" (e.g getting everybody in the local area to position and setup their wireless JUST right so that everybody can have it.) is obviously completely unaware of human nature.
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How the fuck does this kind of pig headed zealotry get modded Insightful?
You should take things on their individual merit rather than some sort anti-whoever prejudice.
Mono is NOT merely to allow you to run Windows .NET applications, it is there to provide a platform independant runtime which you can develop in C# (for example) for.
The government want to:
A) Give themselves more power.
B) Give themselves more money to work with.
Given that this bill would give them no extra powers, and cost a huge amount in defence lawyers, I don't think this is ALL that surprising.
All valid points, but unrelated to this issue.
The people hired to do this projet should NEVER have been allowed to bid, they obviously don't have the developers capable of creating even the most basic DB design to the required standard.
The problems with the DB don't appear to be ones born through poor speccing, it is incompetance. There is never an excuse for un-indexed tables.
The incompetance of US Government contractors is nothing short of astonishing.
How has this been allowed to happen? From the little info I've managed to glean from TFA it seems the schema has been designed by somebody who doesn't know even the rudiments of database design.
How did somebody like this get such a lucrative contract? Is there no accountability in your Gov?
At best it seems the Government gives these contracts out at random, without even the most basic vetting procedures ("Does your company have anything to do with software design?"). A more distrustful person might suggest there is something more sinister going on...
...quite how little the real world cares about Linux on the desktop
If Linux was that popular, or that sensible an option then Flash would be working PERFECTLY in under a week, as it it, it would appear nobody who matters, cares.
Burn.
By the way, dispite what people say, and at least one makes sure they tell me every fucking day, if you replace Average Joe's Windows machine with Ubuntu, he wont go three months without doing all of the below:
A) Breaking it.
B) Hating it.
C) Missing thousands of Windows features.
Linux is NOT ready for the desktop, at the present rate it will NEVER be ready. You heard, NEVER. The people who swan around claiming that we're all prejudiced and Ubuntu is AS USER FRIENDLY as Windows are simply deluding themselves.
This should hurt, Apple took a Unix, and in 2 years create one of the most intuative, user friendly OSs around today.
The Linux community have been going strong for over 15 years and have produce a VERY VERY good server OS, and a Deskop OS held together with scotch tape, blutack and string.
By the way, I'm a Windows user.
As we all know, all manner of rich web applications can be created using ONLY XHTML and Javascript. So I must assume that the REAL problem this chap has is ease of use.
Now I'm sure there's something to be said for that, and yes, it'd be nice if browsers could agree on an implementation and stick to it, but shit happens.
However the when you start sacrificing power for ease of use, you'll eventually end up with RoR. At which point all the serious developers will tell you to piss off and you'll end up with a language good for doing about four things.
What is with this strange new breed of programmer who thinks that everything should be crammed into the MVC pattern?
Sensibilities be damned, they're going to make it work like Ruby-On-Rails if it kills them. Why not look at the requirement and then decide on an established design pattern (if any!)? Don't go trying to change a language we're all very happy with just because your knowledge is limited to one paradigm.
We should going back to designing things that work, not working things to a design.
Javascript (well, ECMAScript) is actually quite powerful. True it lacks a few of the features you'd expect to see on common UI languages (multhreading anybody?), but you can't have a strop and fragment ECMAScript because of that.
It is, by the way, a prototype-based language, so the sooner you stop deluding yourselves into thinking that you can code like it's OO, the better.
If you want to complain about something, whine about the totally fucking USELESS Document Object Model (DOM) we're given to work with today, talk about the weakest link... If there's ANYTHING that needs a total overhaul on the web today, its the DOM.
This is why they designed programming languages.
Grab Python, it's going to cost ~60 lines.
"Are US voters informed enough about science?"
In the region 50% of US Voters believe the Earth is less than 9000 years old. What do you think?
Hurhur!!! Charge the Western devils top dollar for our superior internets!! Capitalism isn't all that bad when we're on the business end of a supply-demand scenario.
that must have taken ages! I haven't a fucking clue what you're talking about, it's painful read.
45 minutes you'll never get back mate.
...using my neighbours wireless.
A computer with [insert OS here] on and a BitTorrent client.
Discontinue a product line against the advice of your customer base and they'll find new ways of getting what they want.
...we get one for lawyers, then the world will be happier place.
Surly the fact that it's totally illegal should be enough?
You wouldn't ask us to explain to your boss why he shouldn't scam VAT, or smoke freebase would you?
I just switched to Ubuntu, and I'm fucking loving it.
Ok, so those of you who drive to work in the morning may like the sound of this, but on a global level, is a cheap source of Oil a good thing?
The lack of oil is forcing innovation in the energy market. We're looking to build cars with NO carbon emissions, fuel cells with years of life, fusion reactors and other Star Trek sounding things.
If we make oil cheap, then we'll continue to wreck the planet.
Of COURSE it is Microsoft! You've backed yourself into a corner by making agreements with the hardware vendors that you WILL force users to upgrade with each iteration of Windows.
Now this worked fine when there were literally NO viable alternatives to Windows, but you've rested on your laurels too long, now people have options.
You're stuck between a rock and hard place, either fuck the vendors and lose out on all that lovely money, or continue to fuck your users and hope they don't notice.
I wonder which they'll try first...
It's like Microsoft DESPERATELY want to fail.
Windows 7's MinWin promise actually got me thinking about buying it when it arrived on the scene. Thats not going to happen.
...your script are belong to us
No mention of what's going to happen to the police who have have abused their power. Probably the same thing that happened to the chaps who shot that poor Charles de Menezes eight times in the head without provocation, nothing.
What ever happened to the days of the local Bobby? Friend to all law abiding citizens, there to help and not hinder. Nowdays when you REPORT a crime they're rude to you.
What the fuck happened?
By definition, this is no longer 0-day now is it?
The revolution got sold boys. http://radian.org/notebook/sic-transit-gloria-laptopi
Well said. Enough whining and thinking the world owes you a favour.
Oh, and the chap talking about "shared wireless broadband multiplexing" (e.g getting everybody in the local area to position and setup their wireless JUST right so that everybody can have it.) is obviously completely unaware of human nature.
Couldn't be...