yet "Generic PS2 brawler" can be translated to "Generic Xbox FPS" or "Generic Xbox TPS" or "Generic Xbox online game"
but I know what you mean, Sony ripped you off because you bought a PS2 that died, you bought a Sony TV that died, you bought a Sony Computer that died, you bought a Sony CD that infected your computer.
to be honest, I am still amazed that OCremix is still around.
mainly since game companys like square-enix went on a C&D spree over the summer closing just about anything that hand anything related to their works that wasn't just information.
Please don't make that analogy. It should "It's ok to make a copy of that candy bar from MEGA Grocery Store but just don't make a copy of that candy bar from Joe's Corner Market." Personally, I make copies of candy bars all the time.
that also brings up another interesting point, Both Mega Corp & Joe's sell things that let you create your own things, Yet both stores sell the item already made (say in this case Cookies).
Mega corp has all the items you would need to make a certain set of cookies, yet just a couple isles down they sell the exact cookies you are planning on making. Does this mean that Mega Corp is contributing to the theft of the cookie companies out there?
same goes for Joe's, they don't carry as many ingrediants as Mega does but they do carry enough & they sell the same cookies you are planing on making, does this fall under theft? since you are making your own but it was provided to you from someone else.
you are taking money away from the company (or people depending on the cookies) that make the cookies since you are making your own "copies".
actually they have, the beta images for IE 7 had basically the EXACT same layout as firefox, the icons were identical, the google search box was in the same spot, tabs in the same spot basically they are just copying the code for firefox and claiming it as their own.
and not by the japanese (but there are some out there) it was done by an artist that doesn't do anything anymore, went by the names Alpha (or dark kaminari) in fact he was the one who started a trend of drawing them as teens/adults instead of 5 year olds.
(if I hadn't posted already I would of marked it as funny),
I'm sure they charged him every day he was there, if not then I guess he got the last laugh on them.
I'm just wondering how he could go 20 days without people wondering, sure I can understand going once a week and seeing the same person but if you go often (say you are a teen or something) and the same guy is in the same chair playing the same game everytime you go there I would eventually ask someone "How long has he been there?", you know just out of curiosity.
the thing I really want to know though...how did the place stay open 24/7 for 20 days straight? aren't they supposed to close every night or was that china? I remember reading on slashdot a few months back after someone killed themself or died playing games that the government/law enforcment cracked down on the hours cafes could stay open to try and help prevent violent outbursts/deaths from constant gaming.
actully they do have internet service at home, the only problem is it's cheaper to go to an Internet cafe which has up to date PC's and faster connections then you can get at home.
what they are intended to do is close every now and then so shit like that doesn't happen...naturally they ignore the rule so they can get more money and when people die they just go "Not our fault" and move on.
there's stricter laws in place now that force internet cafe's in korea to close at a certain time &/or kick people off computers after a certain ammount of time to try and help cut back on the rate dumbasses die...don't even try to defend these morons, 20 days of straight gaming, killing yourself cause people online betrayed you, killing someone cause they sold a sword in the game, they were all dumbasses plain and simple and the world is a better place now that they are gone.
besides the one's replying are the gradeschool kids who are out of school for the holiday week, so you can expect a lot more thought provoking and well thought out posts as you are seeing now.
When retail dies and online takes off people will still go looking for deals, now how many scam sites are out there? (reffer to an earlier slashdot story about a guy buying a camera) how many of them would just LOVE to setup shop long enough to get a few credit card numbers and bulk out their bank accounts and suddenly vanish over night (lokitorrent).
when you buy direct from the source you pay more (HL2 boxed 54.99, Steam download 54.99 tho when I got mine it was down to $39.99 boxed but steam was still 49.99) so it could work but maybe not, if it's a game that won't sell well then naturally they will charge more cause of pressing costs, Mainly because HDD just aren't big enough (and speeds aren't fast enough).
could you imagine paying $50 for a 12-15gb game? you'd have to wait a couple of days before you could actually play it then you lose that on the HDD, with the HDD's only going up to 80gb (this is from microsoft, they said it themselves with the possability of it going higher) that's about 5 games at 15gb each. then you would have to spend more money to get another hdd, swap out and write down what's on each hdd and go from there.
I do agree Xbox live is the future of video game distrobution but, HDD & Broadband (in the US) just isn't quite there yet.
So Sony doesn't make as much from Working Designs as they do from Take 2. Why does it matter?
why did EA have to get exclusive lisence to the NFL? Wouldn't having more companys making official NFL games be better since they would mke moeny no matter what?
These games were already released in Japan so Sony must have approved them once (unless they operate way differently in Japan, which I doubt).
actually it is a very different decision process. Simple way to awnser it, look at all the games released in Japan and notice how different each one is (hell they have like 5 million majong games) look at all the games in America and notice the differences between Japan and American games. It all comes down to Demographics, christian influances (don't even try to deny this one, Xenogears was a completly different game in japan then what it is in NA), what is conssidered acceptable and what isn't (Characters that are alittle to close to the KKK yet are obviously making fun of them).
so SCEA says "No that game has to many christian overtones and will get us in trouble" where as SCEJ wouldn't have a problem with it, so they have two options, fully change the story to make it not so christian related or not release it at all.
now with the Goemon game the only thing I can think of is that the graphics looked really dated, but it pisses me off to no end right now to learn they were basically done with the game, fixed the control issues the japanese version had and made it in english only to have sony fuck them over for no reason (btw, I LOVE the Mystical Ninja games, have since the SNES one came out).
I have no problem with quality control but come on, when you have games like Trigger man, Blowout and other games that sell for $9.99 brand new while games that have a history behind them don't get released there needs to be a serious overhaul of how things are done.
hell I wish the FTC would step in and just let the retailers decide what is sold and what isn't, why should it matter what Sony says in the end? they still get a percentage of the sales made as it is.
G4TV.com was a great show and I'll really miss it. It was a show hosted by 3 hardcore gamers (at least one of which writes game manuals) with strong preferences and opinions, tackling the big issues of the day and conducting interviews with industry greats like Peter Molyneux and Sid Meier. No topic was taboo and they pulled no punches in their interview questions. Although it was presented in a different format it was no less informative than Icons.
you just explained right there why the show was cancled. $10 says they are getting rid of these shows to make room for a combination of Music videos with cars.
I just turned and saw cinematech was on so I thought I would watch...the commercial that was playing was the sex line advertisments they show no...you know where it has the "Geeky" girls, you know the all to common C & D cup sized tight ass bikini clad geeky girls.
this network is such a joke it's not even funny anymore, they hired all these new people, forced them all to move to LA and then over thanksgiving weekend proceded to fire them all...I still remember that screen savers after thanksgiving...4 people were on the show 4, out of the original 8 (or was it 10?) and the 8 (or 10) were ALWAYS doing something, when it went to 4 they got rid of the audiance (the only smart move they ever did) and butchered the living hell out of the show.
kevin was no longer allowed to talk about the really dark tips he used to, they were turned into crap people that watched that segment knew about making the show pointless to watch, then he was finnaly let go (or quit, I'm not sure which) leaving it with only three. I watched a total of two whole episodes after the cast was cut down to 4, when it was the Screen savers I never missed an episode, when G4 took over and 80% of the cast was let go (since they didn't want to move to LA) I still gave them a chance (probably the only one), when they let go of the cast over thanksgiving weekend though that's when I drew the line, I watched two episodes after that and haven't watched one episode in over a year now. Why should I? It's probably the same bull they were putting on when I stoped watching.
Icons is the only Show G4 has done that is truely interesting to watch, to bad they are focusing more on the "Car Scene" and the "hip-hop" culture then what they should be focusing on. I guess this is what happens when you have old white guys in charge of a company...
"What's the hottest "It" thing right now?"
"Well there's rap and car games seem to be really popular"
"good let's make shows that are focused completly around that, but drop the cars, just show a black guy who represents the rap aspect and throw in a bunch of half naked girls ontop of cars, that will do a lot better"
"Sounds like a plan."
as time goes on people lose intrest so they drop the drift racing show and replace it with the man show, after all it has half naked chicks bouncing all around.
who are they targeting with their shows again? they seem to have shows targeted at the 18-30 demographic but the shows seem to have the intelegent factor for the 8-12 year olds.
your mom is the reason why the research is always inconclusive. As you said she was just curious about something she had never seen before, wanted to see what all it could do.
samething happens with me and violent games, when Vice city first came out I spent the first 20 minutes just seeing what they changed in the game, seeing what I could do now that I couldn't before. Once that was done I played the game (and I still have yet to kill 1 innocent person on perpouse while playing the game as normal).
when I want to have fun and just laugh I act like a psychopath in game but a news reporter out of it, the guy in the game is going ballistic and killing innocent people while the cops try to stop him, while Myself in the real word pretends that I am flying in a news copter reporting on what is happening on the ground. Why? Cause it's fun to do when you are bored.
does it mean I will go out into the real world one day and do everything I do in the game cause I thought it was fun? no of course not, just like when I would play Mario brothers, I never went out looking for Mushrooms that would make me grow bigger, or Flowers that would let me shoot fireballs out of my hands or Leafs that would turn me into a half human half racoon thing. No feathers that would suddenly give me a cape and the ability to fly.
the side effect to not watching TV at all, advertisers need a new place to shove ads down our throats but where do they turn?>br>
Magazines! in EGM I counted 10 pages in a row of nothing but advertisments (all different) so imagine magazins increasing in size by an aditional 50 pages for ads.
Solution, stop reading magazines they are filled with pointless drivle anyways.
advertising moves on to something else but what?
Online! it's perfect, servers cost money so the bigger the site the more money they need, so let's slap in 500 ads on 1 page.
that won't work though, Firefox's Adblock extion will hide them all.
possible solution, sue the maker of the adblock program, it could work, just word it so it makes it seem like that thing is really illegal and if the mozilla foundation continues to support it they will be sued.
if that doesn't work where else do they go?
Newspapers! everyone want's to know what is happening in the world, why not throw in some pepsi or sony ads inbetween storys.
and finnaly the last bastion of advertising, the holy grail for advertising...BOOKS! let's start putting product placements in books, just change "He reached for a can of soda" to "He reached for a can of Pepsi" instead of "He listened to his favorite CD" we have "He listened to his favorite artist", it would be perfect for advertising.
as you can see, simply not watching TV won't stop bad advertising or product placement, infact it would make things a hell of a lot worse then what they are now, could you imaging the next harry potter book filled with tons of advertisments? how about the lord of the rings being completly redone with ads? hell why not go for the good book itself and change the bible some, have Jesus drink some famous wine at the last supper, instead of the romans making him wear a crown of thorns and carry a cross why not have him wear a crown of thorns with some nice diamonds from *insert diamond store here* and his cross was made from wood cut by *insert some lumber company here*, it could work if done right.
with the Office is it really product placement? It's a show about what happens in a workplace (I think, Ihaven't watched to many episodes) so naturally it mimics that and when something new comes out their going to be all over it.
so a Show like The Office works well with product placement but you are right a show like Stargate or Battlestar galactica wouldn't fare to well...after all one is set in an alternate universe and the other set in the future, it would be weird for the Silons (SP?) to suddenly be walking around with video ipods, or the starships to have a huge Pepsi add spread across it, with Stargate it COULD work but only when they are on earth (which doesn't seem to happen a lot anymore) but Atlantis would be screwed.
certain shows would fare better then others and that's how advertising should work, a show like Lost can't do well with product placement cause everything they could talk about would be years old (since that's when the show started) but something like a sitcom on ABC,CBS,NBC or FOX could do really well since they are based on current times.
Personally I love watching adult swim when they air the 15 minute cartoons, simply because it is 15 straight minutes without a comemrcial. If more shows/stations could start doing this I would be pleased and pay more attention to TV, as it stands I usually turn it on but after 30 or so minutes I just start doing something else and leave it on for noise (since they usually air 5-10 minutes of straight commercials I can't tell when the show starts and when the commercials end), so if there is product placement I wouldn't notice it since i am not paying attention cause they just ran 5 commercials.
They need to start picking and chosing though, have product placement in shows where it could work (basically 90% of what's on TV anymore) don't make a whole show out of it though (that E.T. Episode of My wife and kids was the worst one ever) but just work it in to things, like if a couple goes on a date and are looking at movies, show different ones that are coming out for us or are already in theaters, but don't have a 30 minute conversation about what movie to go see, have them go to the theater and decide there, hell make it so it's easy to cut out of the DVD release to, that way it would be more of a win win situation...use more blue/green screens or take two takes for the product placement so for the TV version the can sitting there is for Pepsi but when the DVD comes out that can is changed to some no name brand they just threw in there (like the simpsons used to do, they would make up their own things for the show) For a show like Lost though they would have to run commercials there just is no way around it, Since I doubt people would care to hear them talking about what the latest thing was 2/3/4/however many years ago when that current episode airs, cause it would really screw up the show when someone starts talking about the Xbox 360 even though they crashed a year or two before it was even out, or talking about Aeon Flux when they crashed 2 years prior to it even being heard of.
the last line, yes I was just being funny about it (using their type of statistic gathering).
what I ment by the car parts was you can only get your parts from the company themselves (Just like a copy of Windows, you can only get it from Microsoft legaly), now what if your friend had the part you needed but he didn't need it cause he doesn't have that car anymore? (say he has Windows 2000 and just upgraded to XP, he doesn't need 2000 anymore) so your friend just gives you the thing he doesn't need anymore, according to the way piracy works, just handing the item you don't need/want anymore over to someone else would be considered piracy. So you don't make a copy of anything or make your own anything just just hand over something, yet they didn't buy it from the original source so the license doesn't transfer with it.
as for Leasing software I can see that backfiring in a few years if they go through with what they want, where you litteraly spend the original $5-$1200 for the program only to find out in order to continue using it you have to pay a yearly subscription. Now this is fine for certain programs but when it's your operating system I tend to think people will draw the line there (with it being Microsoft you know it won't come cheap) imagine one day you turn on the computer only to find out you can't use it cause you didn't pay the software use bill?
Software has to be the greyest area of anything ever done in history, it's the only thing you can spend $50 on and you don't own anything...even though you have the disc sitting right there to prove you own it, I have no problem when it comes to them owning the source code for the program that's fine, it's when it comes down to them dictating what I can and cannot do with it that I have a problem, If they didn't want us to take it apart to look at it why bother releasing it? that's the only way they can stop software piracy, just stop making programs. They obviously don't like it when their source code get's out, yet Microsoft is the only oen I have heard of taking the source of another company releasing a program based on said source first (really buggy of course) then suing the company that actually created the program into submission.
it's not like someone can disasemble photoshop and take a few things here and there for their own program and release it, they would be cought and sued (as they should), but what's wrong when someone does it for their own personal use? Just like with cars, what if it's someones hobby to take a car apart, see how it works and the improve it? They aren't going to start selling these cars themselves, they aren't going to start a competing company, they are just doing it for their own personal joy. Yet you can't do this with software which seems really stupid to me.
How many exploits have been let lose for someone to fix do to people doing this? hell sometimes they will also fix it themselves if the company takes to long to fix it (again I don't see a problem) but technically Microsoft could shut down every site that makes a vulnerability know to the pubilc, since all we are doing is leasing a program from them, in order to find out about the exploit you have to look at the code, looking at the code is a no no so poof out come the lawyers.
but they don't (which is suprising), as for the EULA It isn't a Binding contract, it's a button you press "I agree" to continue, there is no handwritten signiture, without that it's not a binding contract (tho some judges seem to disagree), why don't car companys do this? or credit card companies? if pushing a button equals a hand written signature then they should allow you to, just show them a monitor and say "Click I agree to continue".
also why should I HAVE to read the EULA even though I push a button? no one is explaining it to me, I'm not a lawyer, should I go and hire a lawyer to read the EULA for WIndows XP before I install it so I know I am doing everything legal? should I spend the $15 for a program then another #500 for th
(not that I claim to know what I'm talking about here, but it sounds right in theory at least)
Ahh, the old slashdot EULA.
so...that must mean it's not worth anything and can't be enforced excpet in courts that don't understand you don't legaly sign anything when you press a button?
People "would never buy" a piece of software because of its cost. Developers build in an extra "piracy buffer" to the cost of software to make up for lost sales. Bit of a vicious cycle, eh?
yet when they make a "Better Piracy buffer" it usually costs them more customers
look at what happened with sony and the rootkits, the people who legaly bought the music and fallowed the rules were met with a little program that did more harm then any other program has ever done, yet the ones who pirated or who figured out how to avoid it installing had no worries.
in the end the only thing these anti-pirating measures do in the end is costing them legitamit customers & create more pirates, Cause when they buy a product that suddenly renders the computer useless from what they were doing the day before (the first set of cd's prevented playing in PCs completly, then trying to stop copying altogether) they might tend to shy away from that artist's CD's and resort to just downloading the songs when they become avalible to avoid the hassle of losing their computer all over again.
hell wasn't there one anti-piracy advocate not long ago just going on and on about how well DRM and all that crap is and in the end he himself had to resort to pirating to get a program to work properly? just goes to show you that the more restrictions you put in place on something someone who legally bought a product thus it becomes their property (as the saying goes Possesion is 9/10ths of the law...or something like that) so if they can't use it for what they want what do you expect them to do? they bought it it's theirs forever or untill they get rid of it meaning they can do with it whatever they want.
could you imagine if car companies suddenly came out and said "You bought the car but you aren't allowed to change anything about it, you are not allowed to change the color of the car, the seat covers, anything in the engine and all parts replacements must be done from the company your car comes from" how long do you think that would fly with people? there go the jobs of people who make car stereos, rims, air cleaners, replacement parts, oil filters, tires. Everything has to come from the original factory, so what happens when said factory goes out of buisness? or you just can't affored their oil filters or air cleaners? your friend decides gives you what you need, are you now a pirate? after all it was your friend who gave you it, you said you needed it they gave it to you, you are now a pirate in the eyes of car companies and contribute to the theft of auto parts.
so in the end they can run all the "statistics" they want but in the end I could pull out the same "Statistics" and be just as right...also does anyone else see BSA and think BullShit Association?
Here's some statistics, out of all the people who read this comment 15% will reply to it, while the other 85% will just read it and move on without replying thus pirating this comment.
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that's actually the only appropriate "First post annoyiance" post that is funny.
cause PC's were still for geeks at that time?
because the notion of spending $1500 on a PC and you still had to spend more for a graphics card wasn't known?
cause witht he PSX you could put the disc in and play? no need to set up anything or configure anything?
yet "Generic PS2 brawler" can be translated to "Generic Xbox FPS" or "Generic Xbox TPS" or "Generic Xbox online game"
but I know what you mean, Sony ripped you off because you bought a PS2 that died, you bought a Sony TV that died, you bought a Sony Computer that died, you bought a Sony CD that infected your computer.
Why do you keep buying sony products?
you forgot their timeslot to.
Sundays at 7 (6 central), perfect time for a show to fail, seeing as how Football always seems to run over that time.
Let's not forget fox's wonderfull advertising of the show aswell, I saw all of 2 commercials for the show during it's 4 year run.
you forgot to mention you have to break their arms and legs so they can't use them to do anything legal aswell.
I think this is one that disables any CD Ripping program from doing what it should be able to.
to be honest, I am still amazed that OCremix is still around.
mainly since game companys like square-enix went on a C&D spree over the summer closing just about anything that hand anything related to their works that wasn't just information.
they ment it as a new feature for ultima v, since I am guessing the original didn't have that.
Please don't make that analogy. It should "It's ok to make a copy of that candy bar from MEGA Grocery Store but just don't make a copy of that candy bar from Joe's Corner Market." Personally, I make copies of candy bars all the time.
that also brings up another interesting point, Both Mega Corp & Joe's sell things that let you create your own things, Yet both stores sell the item already made (say in this case Cookies).
Mega corp has all the items you would need to make a certain set of cookies, yet just a couple isles down they sell the exact cookies you are planning on making. Does this mean that Mega Corp is contributing to the theft of the cookie companies out there?
same goes for Joe's, they don't carry as many ingrediants as Mega does but they do carry enough & they sell the same cookies you are planing on making, does this fall under theft? since you are making your own but it was provided to you from someone else.
you are taking money away from the company (or people depending on the cookies) that make the cookies since you are making your own "copies".
actually they have, the beta images for IE 7 had basically the EXACT same layout as firefox, the icons were identical, the google search box was in the same spot, tabs in the same spot basically they are just copying the code for firefox and claiming it as their own.
already been done.
and not by the japanese (but there are some out there) it was done by an artist that doesn't do anything anymore, went by the names Alpha (or dark kaminari) in fact he was the one who started a trend of drawing them as teens/adults instead of 5 year olds.
(if I hadn't posted already I would of marked it as funny),
I'm sure they charged him every day he was there, if not then I guess he got the last laugh on them.
I'm just wondering how he could go 20 days without people wondering, sure I can understand going once a week and seeing the same person but if you go often (say you are a teen or something) and the same guy is in the same chair playing the same game everytime you go there I would eventually ask someone "How long has he been there?", you know just out of curiosity.
the thing I really want to know though...how did the place stay open 24/7 for 20 days straight? aren't they supposed to close every night or was that china? I remember reading on slashdot a few months back after someone killed themself or died playing games that the government/law enforcment cracked down on the hours cafes could stay open to try and help prevent violent outbursts/deaths from constant gaming.
actully they do have internet service at home, the only problem is it's cheaper to go to an Internet cafe which has up to date PC's and faster connections then you can get at home.
what they are intended to do is close every now and then so shit like that doesn't happen...naturally they ignore the rule so they can get more money and when people die they just go "Not our fault" and move on.
there's stricter laws in place now that force internet cafe's in korea to close at a certain time &/or kick people off computers after a certain ammount of time to try and help cut back on the rate dumbasses die...don't even try to defend these morons, 20 days of straight gaming, killing yourself cause people online betrayed you, killing someone cause they sold a sword in the game, they were all dumbasses plain and simple and the world is a better place now that they are gone.
people on slashdot read? are you insane man?
besides the one's replying are the gradeschool kids who are out of school for the holiday week, so you can expect a lot more thought provoking and well thought out posts as you are seeing now.
man that is bad.
the government should pass more pointless laws, hell tack on to the Patriot act that seems to be filled with them.
quick someone patent lawyers putting their hands in other peoples pockets before someone else does and then use a lawyer to sue himself!
Time to invest in that Holographic disc technology, you know the ones that store 300gb per disc.
looks like they will be gaining quite a lot of orders from the EU.
there's just one problem with that
When retail dies and online takes off people will still go looking for deals, now how many scam sites are out there? (reffer to an earlier slashdot story about a guy buying a camera) how many of them would just LOVE to setup shop long enough to get a few credit card numbers and bulk out their bank accounts and suddenly vanish over night (lokitorrent).
when you buy direct from the source you pay more (HL2 boxed 54.99, Steam download 54.99 tho when I got mine it was down to $39.99 boxed but steam was still 49.99) so it could work but maybe not, if it's a game that won't sell well then naturally they will charge more cause of pressing costs, Mainly because HDD just aren't big enough (and speeds aren't fast enough).
could you imagine paying $50 for a 12-15gb game? you'd have to wait a couple of days before you could actually play it then you lose that on the HDD, with the HDD's only going up to 80gb (this is from microsoft, they said it themselves with the possability of it going higher) that's about 5 games at 15gb each. then you would have to spend more money to get another hdd, swap out and write down what's on each hdd and go from there.
I do agree Xbox live is the future of video game distrobution but, HDD & Broadband (in the US) just isn't quite there yet.
So Sony doesn't make as much from Working Designs as they do from Take 2. Why does it matter?
why did EA have to get exclusive lisence to the NFL? Wouldn't having more companys making official NFL games be better since they would mke moeny no matter what?
These games were already released in Japan so Sony must have approved them once (unless they operate way differently in Japan, which I doubt).
actually it is a very different decision process. Simple way to awnser it, look at all the games released in Japan and notice how different each one is (hell they have like 5 million majong games) look at all the games in America and notice the differences between Japan and American games. It all comes down to Demographics, christian influances (don't even try to deny this one, Xenogears was a completly different game in japan then what it is in NA), what is conssidered acceptable and what isn't (Characters that are alittle to close to the KKK yet are obviously making fun of them).
so SCEA says "No that game has to many christian overtones and will get us in trouble" where as SCEJ wouldn't have a problem with it, so they have two options, fully change the story to make it not so christian related or not release it at all.
now with the Goemon game the only thing I can think of is that the graphics looked really dated, but it pisses me off to no end right now to learn they were basically done with the game, fixed the control issues the japanese version had and made it in english only to have sony fuck them over for no reason (btw, I LOVE the Mystical Ninja games, have since the SNES one came out).
I have no problem with quality control but come on, when you have games like Trigger man, Blowout and other games that sell for $9.99 brand new while games that have a history behind them don't get released there needs to be a serious overhaul of how things are done.
hell I wish the FTC would step in and just let the retailers decide what is sold and what isn't, why should it matter what Sony says in the end? they still get a percentage of the sales made as it is.
G4TV.com was a great show and I'll really miss it. It was a show hosted by 3 hardcore gamers (at least one of which writes game manuals) with strong preferences and opinions, tackling the big issues of the day and conducting interviews with industry greats like Peter Molyneux and Sid Meier. No topic was taboo and they pulled no punches in their interview questions. Although it was presented in a different format it was no less informative than Icons.
you just explained right there why the show was cancled. $10 says they are getting rid of these shows to make room for a combination of Music videos with cars.
I just turned and saw cinematech was on so I thought I would watch...the commercial that was playing was the sex line advertisments they show no...you know where it has the "Geeky" girls, you know the all to common C & D cup sized tight ass bikini clad geeky girls.
this network is such a joke it's not even funny anymore, they hired all these new people, forced them all to move to LA and then over thanksgiving weekend proceded to fire them all...I still remember that screen savers after thanksgiving...4 people were on the show 4, out of the original 8 (or was it 10?) and the 8 (or 10) were ALWAYS doing something, when it went to 4 they got rid of the audiance (the only smart move they ever did) and butchered the living hell out of the show.
kevin was no longer allowed to talk about the really dark tips he used to, they were turned into crap people that watched that segment knew about making the show pointless to watch, then he was finnaly let go (or quit, I'm not sure which) leaving it with only three. I watched a total of two whole episodes after the cast was cut down to 4, when it was the Screen savers I never missed an episode, when G4 took over and 80% of the cast was let go (since they didn't want to move to LA) I still gave them a chance (probably the only one), when they let go of the cast over thanksgiving weekend though that's when I drew the line, I watched two episodes after that and haven't watched one episode in over a year now. Why should I? It's probably the same bull they were putting on when I stoped watching.
Icons is the only Show G4 has done that is truely interesting to watch, to bad they are focusing more on the "Car Scene" and the "hip-hop" culture then what they should be focusing on. I guess this is what happens when you have old white guys in charge of a company...
"What's the hottest "It" thing right now?"
"Well there's rap and car games seem to be really popular"
"good let's make shows that are focused completly around that, but drop the cars, just show a black guy who represents the rap aspect and throw in a bunch of half naked girls ontop of cars, that will do a lot better"
"Sounds like a plan."
as time goes on people lose intrest so they drop the drift racing show and replace it with the man show, after all it has half naked chicks bouncing all around.
who are they targeting with their shows again? they seem to have shows targeted at the 18-30 demographic but the shows seem to have the intelegent factor for the 8-12 year olds.
your mom is the reason why the research is always inconclusive. As you said she was just curious about something she had never seen before, wanted to see what all it could do.
samething happens with me and violent games, when Vice city first came out I spent the first 20 minutes just seeing what they changed in the game, seeing what I could do now that I couldn't before. Once that was done I played the game (and I still have yet to kill 1 innocent person on perpouse while playing the game as normal).
when I want to have fun and just laugh I act like a psychopath in game but a news reporter out of it, the guy in the game is going ballistic and killing innocent people while the cops try to stop him, while Myself in the real word pretends that I am flying in a news copter reporting on what is happening on the ground. Why? Cause it's fun to do when you are bored.
does it mean I will go out into the real world one day and do everything I do in the game cause I thought it was fun? no of course not, just like when I would play Mario brothers, I never went out looking for Mushrooms that would make me grow bigger, or Flowers that would let me shoot fireballs out of my hands or Leafs that would turn me into a half human half racoon thing. No feathers that would suddenly give me a cape and the ability to fly.
well atleast sony is taking care of Step 5.
when you buy the HDD for it it (supposedly) comes pre-installed with linux.
the side effect to not watching TV at all, advertisers need a new place to shove ads down our throats but where do they turn?>br>
Magazines! in EGM I counted 10 pages in a row of nothing but advertisments (all different) so imagine magazins increasing in size by an aditional 50 pages for ads.
Solution, stop reading magazines they are filled with pointless drivle anyways.
advertising moves on to something else but what?
Online! it's perfect, servers cost money so the bigger the site the more money they need, so let's slap in 500 ads on 1 page.
that won't work though, Firefox's Adblock extion will hide them all.
possible solution, sue the maker of the adblock program, it could work, just word it so it makes it seem like that thing is really illegal and if the mozilla foundation continues to support it they will be sued.
if that doesn't work where else do they go?
Newspapers! everyone want's to know what is happening in the world, why not throw in some pepsi or sony ads inbetween storys.
and finnaly the last bastion of advertising, the holy grail for advertising...BOOKS! let's start putting product placements in books, just change "He reached for a can of soda" to "He reached for a can of Pepsi" instead of "He listened to his favorite CD" we have "He listened to his favorite artist", it would be perfect for advertising.
as you can see, simply not watching TV won't stop bad advertising or product placement, infact it would make things a hell of a lot worse then what they are now, could you imaging the next harry potter book filled with tons of advertisments? how about the lord of the rings being completly redone with ads? hell why not go for the good book itself and change the bible some, have Jesus drink some famous wine at the last supper, instead of the romans making him wear a crown of thorns and carry a cross why not have him wear a crown of thorns with some nice diamonds from *insert diamond store here* and his cross was made from wood cut by *insert some lumber company here*, it could work if done right.
with the Office is it really product placement? It's a show about what happens in a workplace (I think, Ihaven't watched to many episodes) so naturally it mimics that and when something new comes out their going to be all over it.
so a Show like The Office works well with product placement but you are right a show like Stargate or Battlestar galactica wouldn't fare to well...after all one is set in an alternate universe and the other set in the future, it would be weird for the Silons (SP?) to suddenly be walking around with video ipods, or the starships to have a huge Pepsi add spread across it, with Stargate it COULD work but only when they are on earth (which doesn't seem to happen a lot anymore) but Atlantis would be screwed.
certain shows would fare better then others and that's how advertising should work, a show like Lost can't do well with product placement cause everything they could talk about would be years old (since that's when the show started) but something like a sitcom on ABC,CBS,NBC or FOX could do really well since they are based on current times.
Personally I love watching adult swim when they air the 15 minute cartoons, simply because it is 15 straight minutes without a comemrcial. If more shows/stations could start doing this I would be pleased and pay more attention to TV, as it stands I usually turn it on but after 30 or so minutes I just start doing something else and leave it on for noise (since they usually air 5-10 minutes of straight commercials I can't tell when the show starts and when the commercials end), so if there is product placement I wouldn't notice it since i am not paying attention cause they just ran 5 commercials.
They need to start picking and chosing though, have product placement in shows where it could work (basically 90% of what's on TV anymore) don't make a whole show out of it though (that E.T. Episode of My wife and kids was the worst one ever) but just work it in to things, like if a couple goes on a date and are looking at movies, show different ones that are coming out for us or are already in theaters, but don't have a 30 minute conversation about what movie to go see, have them go to the theater and decide there, hell make it so it's easy to cut out of the DVD release to, that way it would be more of a win win situation...use more blue/green screens or take two takes for the product placement so for the TV version the can sitting there is for Pepsi but when the DVD comes out that can is changed to some no name brand they just threw in there (like the simpsons used to do, they would make up their own things for the show) For a show like Lost though they would have to run commercials there just is no way around it, Since I doubt people would care to hear them talking about what the latest thing was 2/3/4/however many years ago when that current episode airs, cause it would really screw up the show when someone starts talking about the Xbox 360 even though they crashed a year or two before it was even out, or talking about Aeon Flux when they crashed 2 years prior to it even being heard of.
the last line, yes I was just being funny about it (using their type of statistic gathering).
what I ment by the car parts was you can only get your parts from the company themselves (Just like a copy of Windows, you can only get it from Microsoft legaly), now what if your friend had the part you needed but he didn't need it cause he doesn't have that car anymore? (say he has Windows 2000 and just upgraded to XP, he doesn't need 2000 anymore) so your friend just gives you the thing he doesn't need anymore, according to the way piracy works, just handing the item you don't need/want anymore over to someone else would be considered piracy. So you don't make a copy of anything or make your own anything just just hand over something, yet they didn't buy it from the original source so the license doesn't transfer with it.
as for Leasing software I can see that backfiring in a few years if they go through with what they want, where you litteraly spend the original $5-$1200 for the program only to find out in order to continue using it you have to pay a yearly subscription. Now this is fine for certain programs but when it's your operating system I tend to think people will draw the line there (with it being Microsoft you know it won't come cheap) imagine one day you turn on the computer only to find out you can't use it cause you didn't pay the software use bill?
Software has to be the greyest area of anything ever done in history, it's the only thing you can spend $50 on and you don't own anything...even though you have the disc sitting right there to prove you own it, I have no problem when it comes to them owning the source code for the program that's fine, it's when it comes down to them dictating what I can and cannot do with it that I have a problem, If they didn't want us to take it apart to look at it why bother releasing it? that's the only way they can stop software piracy, just stop making programs. They obviously don't like it when their source code get's out, yet Microsoft is the only oen I have heard of taking the source of another company releasing a program based on said source first (really buggy of course) then suing the company that actually created the program into submission.
it's not like someone can disasemble photoshop and take a few things here and there for their own program and release it, they would be cought and sued (as they should), but what's wrong when someone does it for their own personal use? Just like with cars, what if it's someones hobby to take a car apart, see how it works and the improve it? They aren't going to start selling these cars themselves, they aren't going to start a competing company, they are just doing it for their own personal joy. Yet you can't do this with software which seems really stupid to me.
How many exploits have been let lose for someone to fix do to people doing this? hell sometimes they will also fix it themselves if the company takes to long to fix it (again I don't see a problem) but technically Microsoft could shut down every site that makes a vulnerability know to the pubilc, since all we are doing is leasing a program from them, in order to find out about the exploit you have to look at the code, looking at the code is a no no so poof out come the lawyers.
but they don't (which is suprising), as for the EULA It isn't a Binding contract, it's a button you press "I agree" to continue, there is no handwritten signiture, without that it's not a binding contract (tho some judges seem to disagree), why don't car companys do this? or credit card companies? if pushing a button equals a hand written signature then they should allow you to, just show them a monitor and say "Click I agree to continue".
also why should I HAVE to read the EULA even though I push a button? no one is explaining it to me, I'm not a lawyer, should I go and hire a lawyer to read the EULA for WIndows XP before I install it so I know I am doing everything legal? should I spend the $15 for a program then another #500 for th
(not that I claim to know what I'm talking about here, but it sounds right in theory at least) Ahh, the old slashdot EULA.
so...that must mean it's not worth anything and can't be enforced excpet in courts that don't understand you don't legaly sign anything when you press a button?
People "would never buy" a piece of software because of its cost. Developers build in an extra "piracy buffer" to the cost of software to make up for lost sales. Bit of a vicious cycle, eh?
yet when they make a "Better Piracy buffer" it usually costs them more customers
look at what happened with sony and the rootkits, the people who legaly bought the music and fallowed the rules were met with a little program that did more harm then any other program has ever done, yet the ones who pirated or who figured out how to avoid it installing had no worries.
in the end the only thing these anti-pirating measures do in the end is costing them legitamit customers & create more pirates, Cause when they buy a product that suddenly renders the computer useless from what they were doing the day before (the first set of cd's prevented playing in PCs completly, then trying to stop copying altogether) they might tend to shy away from that artist's CD's and resort to just downloading the songs when they become avalible to avoid the hassle of losing their computer all over again.
hell wasn't there one anti-piracy advocate not long ago just going on and on about how well DRM and all that crap is and in the end he himself had to resort to pirating to get a program to work properly? just goes to show you that the more restrictions you put in place on something someone who legally bought a product thus it becomes their property (as the saying goes Possesion is 9/10ths of the law...or something like that) so if they can't use it for what they want what do you expect them to do? they bought it it's theirs forever or untill they get rid of it meaning they can do with it whatever they want.
could you imagine if car companies suddenly came out and said "You bought the car but you aren't allowed to change anything about it, you are not allowed to change the color of the car, the seat covers, anything in the engine and all parts replacements must be done from the company your car comes from" how long do you think that would fly with people? there go the jobs of people who make car stereos, rims, air cleaners, replacement parts, oil filters, tires. Everything has to come from the original factory, so what happens when said factory goes out of buisness? or you just can't affored their oil filters or air cleaners? your friend decides gives you what you need, are you now a pirate? after all it was your friend who gave you it, you said you needed it they gave it to you, you are now a pirate in the eyes of car companies and contribute to the theft of auto parts.
so in the end they can run all the "statistics" they want but in the end I could pull out the same "Statistics" and be just as right...also does anyone else see BSA and think BullShit Association?
Here's some statistics, out of all the people who read this comment 15% will reply to it, while the other 85% will just read it and move on without replying thus pirating this comment.