actually, they ended up fining CBS for the little miss hap.
which is stupid, if anyone should of been fined it should be Justin Timberlake, he's the one who removed that peice of janets clothing, he's the one who exposed her nipple to the US.
when a polotician lies to many times they have to be turned into a half human half bull so we know all they do is spout bullshit and we can just avoid listening to anything they have to say.
they won't have the strength of a bull though, that would be unfair to everyone else.
This video game has a protagonist, with whom players are supposed to identify, committing brutal, violent acts based upon racism.
whoa whoa whoa WHOA! did you even pick up the game and PLAY IT? or are you just basing your views on the game from what you read in this story?
I played through and beat the game and no wheres does the main character (the one you controll) even come CLOSE to atticking people because of their race. He doesn't attack indians for a simple reason as "Their indians!" there's people within the game that act like that but the main character doesn't.
the missions before you join with the indians all have the indians attacking something and you are defending it or because they are in a part of the land someone else want's (no different from football there).
what is someone made a game where you played a Martin Luther King Jr. character?
you would be fighting for the good of black people and to end segreation, but in the game there would be radicals who wanted to do things their way which is violent.
are we to deny that there were violent black people during the same period as MLKjr? or are we supposed to belive that not one black person was violent untill after he was killed?
it has scratches and smudges on it (In somecases it has everything done to it except been pissed on)
it doesn't mean it will work 100% in your system cause of said scratches and smudges, I've encountered games that got alittle scratch way out on the outside of the disc and it refuses to load, that doesn't exactly sound like it's able to be used for a long time to me (since you know, it refuses to load the first time)
You will probably have to buy a disc repair kit or take it somewheres that can do it for you
chances are good that a used game won't come with it's instructions or a good case.
now over to used cars,
a Used car has dings and scratches in the car, chances are high you need to repair it, so you can do it yourself or take it to someone who knows what they are doing.
A Used car probably won't come with the owners manual, and the body is dinged up in some way.
sometimes the car won't even start.
so how exactly is a used car different from a used game when both require the same kind of care & when you trade it in I am willing to bet the used car dealership repairs the car alittle bit just as when you go to sell a used game, you want to clean it up and make sure it works before hand.
Hell, I'd take an RPG where you don't play a Metrosexual "Is it a Male or a female?!?!?!" teenage person out to save the world.
or where you play a little kid (betweent he ages of 8 and 14) out to save the world, I understand that there is more innocense in a child then an adult but for christs sake give us something DIFFERENT!
I know I will sound like a hypocrite but, I loved the Earthbound game, it did something that was never done before...an RPG set in (get this) PRESENT DAY AND TIME! granted you played as kids but atleast it was better then playing "RPG set in the 1600's 37" or "SCI-Fi game set 3,000 years in the future", why is this concept so hard for develoeprs to comprehend? why do all RPG's seem to take place in an apocolyptic future or a wartorn era from the by gone era? Is it just that an RPG set in present day is to boring? there isn't anything interesting to tell in one set in present day?
I like Mech games and love the Front Mission series cause it is set in a semi present day setting, Guys look like Guys, Girls look like Girls, it blends everything together nicely, to bad it doesn't carry over to the Main Final Fantasy series (hell even in FFOnline you can't tell the Male characters are actually Male), did something happen in Japan where it's trendy for the guys to look like girls and the girls to look like guys? (by that I mean the "garou girls that have about 80lbs of tanspray on and have bleech blond hair).
If a company (from ANY country) made an RPG that made fun of ALL of these things I would buy it in a heart beat (after Chrono Trigger if it ever came out in 3D), it seems rather perfect to, just take all the RPG cliche's and put them into a single game where one guy/girl (you get to chose before hand) is Normal, kind of like the Bards tale only on a grander more game defining scale. Monsters that for some reason drop large ammounts of Gold, Leveling up to the point of being a god, yet the final boss is ALWAYS stronger then you in some way, Not knowing if someone is a guy or girl, I'm sure there are more that I am missing.
cause if you screw up in the game your house won't burn down, you won't start a grease fire, you won't get burned, your feelings won't get hurt when people say that meal sucked ect.
kind of like saving the world in a game, It's a lot easier to do it there then try and walk into some random persons house, look through their stuff and leave like nothing happened and change the world to belive in what the truth is that could save the world.
or to go back to a small gang and suddenly become a super spy and take over 3 citys...Just easier to do in a game then in real life.
who knows though, using this game you might actually get an idea on how to actually cook and can go and cook real meals.
good points but you forgot the biggest clone of them all
urban *Insert something here*, that seems to be the BIGGEST upswing in clones, knockoff and just plain shitty games. Nothing has been this big since Medal of Honor burst onto the scene and made EVERYONE want to make their own WWII FPS.
it all started with GTA to, it wasn't Urban but it was violent, it got big so someone somewheres said "Hey, let's copy that shit!" and they started making shitty game after shitty game tied in with hip-hop/rap artists (the only one I enjoyed out of all the urban clones has been the Def Jam fighting series), I'm not going to compare Driv3r to GTA cause it's not a clone of GTA, if anything GTA3 is a clone of the Driver series (just pop in Driver 2 and you will see).
take a look at some of the games out right now, 50 cent Bulletproof, Crime Life: Gang wars, 25 to life, 187 ride or die, Def Jam: Fight for New York, Need for Speed Underground 2, Need for Speed Most wanted.
The need for speed series used to be great, with Most wanted they are trying to combine the best part of what used to make the series great (Take out the cops from Hot persuit) and combining it with what is the "in" thing right now (import tuner cars) and viola! instant hit that appeals more to the teens then it does to the people who originally bought Need for speed.
50 cent Bulletproof, Crime Life: Gang wars, 25 to life, 187 ride or die. All of these games have a few things in common, The main character is black & is a thug, They emphasize killing other people but in two cases (25 & 50) they don't really explain why and don't let you get around it for 99% of the game, so you HAVE to kill everyone in order to survive, Crime Life you are taking on a rival gang, 187 you drive around in a race and shoot people. all four of these games take elements that made GTA so great and they more or less piss all over it and screw it up in every regard.
Now I'm not saying every game is original but come on, atleast try and make a good game out of it that has an interesting story aside from one that is impossible to even think would really happen (the only one that is plausable would be Crime life but even that is a stretch).
Def Jam is the only one I find good because it doesn't try to be anything it's not, It's an over the top fighting game featuring real rap artists. Plain and simple, it doesn't try to make us think this game is real, or any of it could actually happen (but in some cases some of it really could happen). It just gives us good gameplay with a good story that is actually understandable and doesn't consider us braindead retards with half a braincell.
I wish I could say I am glad this trend is coming to an end but unfortunatly it isn't, aslong as people see *Insert rap star here* they will rush out to buy it and game companies will rush out to make *Generic game featuring someone famous 37*, I think the only two games that don't feature real people are 25 to life & Crime Life (I don't count Def Jam cause as I said they advertise it as so, the only ones who don't go by their real names are Method Man, Redman & Snoop Dogg).
a short list of games that were worst then their previous games
Dead to Rights II
Devil May Cry 2
Xenosaga Episode II
Halo 2 (the offline story made no sence what so ever, Think The Matrix then Matrix Reloaded, it's almost as if they never planned for a sequal and just threw it in there cause they knew they could milk $50 out of everyone instead of just making an Online add-on disc for Halo)
there's a couple more on the PS2 but I can't think of them at the moment.
the very notion of them asking for a credit card number for any reason other than selling things is suspect
Yet for you to even think about getting on Xbox live you require a CREDIT CARD! to access a lot of things it requires some sort of authentication. Those Free AOL Demo discs, you know the ones, They say "NO CREDIT CARD REQUIRED!" yet what is the last step before you can even begin using it? that's right, you need to input your credit card number before it will even let you try it.
Them asking for your email is highly suspect because the only possible reason any company would ever want your email is to send you spam right?
so if I was to go out and buy a CORE 360, it would be able to play ALL of the games listed on the xbox list?
the other one was pointing out which games could be played when you first got the system, not what you can play right now (aslong as you have a broadband internet connection, Xbox Live & a HDD).
thank Tecmo & Team Ninja for that little rule, the fire department had to shut their booth down twice because of fire code violations (aka guys who have never seen a real girl before were gathering around it so they could feel another guys boner poking them in the ass.)
well with silent hill & resident evil atleast there is something more then an updated roster.
Silent hill has a continuing story going so each one is different (either for better or worse) so it's not like you spend $50 for the exact same game you bought last year (but if we do go by this then gaming died back in 85 cause since then every game has been done)
With resident evil 4 they finnaly realized it was time for an upgrade, they had been using the same engine for the past 10 years and across 8 games (RE, RE2, RE3, RE: Code Veronica, REmake, RE0, RE Outbreak 1 & 2), now the engine was fine for last generation but when the PS2 & Gamecube came out it was time to drop that style of play but they kept at it till last year (or was it 2004?) before finnaly changing and that is what hurt the series the most.
I do agree on the sports games though, Madden 2000 was the same as 99 it wasn't untill 2003 that they overhauled the game and added A LOT to it, ever since though it's been the same as 2003 but 2006 on the 360 is actually the worst madden cause they took out features that have been in the game for decades which is truely sad.
So I take it piracy isn't as bad as they make it out to seem?
it's those rat bastard sons of bitches buying a used copy of a game that cannot be found in print anywheres cause the company stoped publishing it?
if it wasn't for Game Quest Direct taking a chance and re-printing these games people wouldn't have to spend $100 for a copy of Gitaroo Man or $150 for Rez simply because the original publisher "Wasn't making money off the game New" well do special orders, if someone wants a copy of the game print up an extra one while you are printing "Sameshit you bought last year with a new number on it!" so that person only has to pay $60 for the game (since they are getting a speical order) and you don't lose out on the "Second hand sale for a game you refuse to re-print even though people obviously want it"
but thank god, the pirates can breath a collective sigh of relief now knowing that what they do isn't what is hurting the industry and costing them money.
atleast, that's what I get when I read this whining.
at the rate things are going, it might be possible to do that...but not for atleast another 5-10 years.
there are some games that keep inching closer to the 100 player mark but none of them can manage to stay up long enough for it to fully work (either the games owner shuts it down cause it's a hacked server or the server just crashes from the load).
if anything consoles would be the first place that it could happen, since everyone would have the exact same setup (seeing as it would be an MMORPG everyone would have a HDD) so developers could make it for that one setup, then for the connection would be the only problem (but that's where the 5-10 year thing comes in).
your idea is interesting though, I know a war game would probably get the go ahead first (Battlefeild 3 possibly) but having a game where you really are a part of something would be great.
I used to play Star Wars Galaxies years ago (around the time the space ship expansion was coming out), I was on like week 2 or 3 of paying for it, killing my 300th rat thing when I realized I wasn't part of the universe in anyway what-so-ever, I wasn't making an impact, I wasn't getting any praise for what I was doing. It just seemed so boring, you had to level up fo weeks only to find out you had to level up even more before you got a mission of any importance (I joined the empire and it was always fetch quests with the occasional "Stop these people" quest) it just seemed pointless to fight the same damn thing, wait for hours on end to get a buff just so I could survive 10 feet out of the damn city, so I lost intrest in it and just gave up.
I moved on to City of Heros & City of villians cause I actually felt like I was a part of something, but had to quit it cause I just didn't have the time or money.
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actually, they ended up fining CBS for the little miss hap.
which is stupid, if anyone should of been fined it should be Justin Timberlake, he's the one who removed that peice of janets clothing, he's the one who exposed her nipple to the US.
they could crash it faster by using the BMP format.
actually it might be a good thing.
when a polotician lies to many times they have to be turned into a half human half bull so we know all they do is spout bullshit and we can just avoid listening to anything they have to say.
they won't have the strength of a bull though, that would be unfair to everyone else.
This video game has a protagonist, with whom players are supposed to identify, committing brutal, violent acts based upon racism.
whoa whoa whoa WHOA! did you even pick up the game and PLAY IT? or are you just basing your views on the game from what you read in this story?
I played through and beat the game and no wheres does the main character (the one you controll) even come CLOSE to atticking people because of their race. He doesn't attack indians for a simple reason as "Their indians!" there's people within the game that act like that but the main character doesn't.
the missions before you join with the indians all have the indians attacking something and you are defending it or because they are in a part of the land someone else want's (no different from football there).
what is someone made a game where you played a Martin Luther King Jr. character?
you would be fighting for the good of black people and to end segreation, but in the game there would be radicals who wanted to do things their way which is violent.
are we to deny that there were violent black people during the same period as MLKjr? or are we supposed to belive that not one black person was violent untill after he was killed?
but what happens if a nuclear plant has a meltdown?
how much of the enviornment is destroyed by that?
would he be a dick or a Spy?
Remember there are spy's everywhere in the series, so what's not to say that dick was enticed by a rival faction?
but then that in itself brings up another good point, Are they doing it to get on the good side of another race or are they just being a dick?
yes because the Internet doesn't require tons of servers, power, cables or wires to be of any use to anyone right?
Let's see, kill some trees to make papers or kill some trees to make room for a new powerplant that is either coal, gas or nuclear based.
so that must mean you don't buy xbox either?
/. anti-microsoft rant*
Remember Microsoft gave us windows which is a security nightmare, refuse to let anyone see the source *Continue with usual
just because one devision of a company fucked up doesn't mean the whole company is in the same boat.
well take a look at a used game
it has scratches and smudges on it (In somecases it has everything done to it except been pissed on)
it doesn't mean it will work 100% in your system cause of said scratches and smudges, I've encountered games that got alittle scratch way out on the outside of the disc and it refuses to load, that doesn't exactly sound like it's able to be used for a long time to me (since you know, it refuses to load the first time)
You will probably have to buy a disc repair kit or take it somewheres that can do it for you
chances are good that a used game won't come with it's instructions or a good case.
now over to used cars,
a Used car has dings and scratches in the car, chances are high you need to repair it, so you can do it yourself or take it to someone who knows what they are doing.
A Used car probably won't come with the owners manual, and the body is dinged up in some way.
sometimes the car won't even start.
so how exactly is a used car different from a used game when both require the same kind of care & when you trade it in I am willing to bet the used car dealership repairs the car alittle bit just as when you go to sell a used game, you want to clean it up and make sure it works before hand.
Hell, I'd take an RPG where you don't play a Metrosexual "Is it a Male or a female?!?!?!" teenage person out to save the world.
or where you play a little kid (betweent he ages of 8 and 14) out to save the world, I understand that there is more innocense in a child then an adult but for christs sake give us something DIFFERENT!
I know I will sound like a hypocrite but, I loved the Earthbound game, it did something that was never done before...an RPG set in (get this) PRESENT DAY AND TIME! granted you played as kids but atleast it was better then playing "RPG set in the 1600's 37" or "SCI-Fi game set 3,000 years in the future", why is this concept so hard for develoeprs to comprehend? why do all RPG's seem to take place in an apocolyptic future or a wartorn era from the by gone era? Is it just that an RPG set in present day is to boring? there isn't anything interesting to tell in one set in present day?
I like Mech games and love the Front Mission series cause it is set in a semi present day setting, Guys look like Guys, Girls look like Girls, it blends everything together nicely, to bad it doesn't carry over to the Main Final Fantasy series (hell even in FFOnline you can't tell the Male characters are actually Male), did something happen in Japan where it's trendy for the guys to look like girls and the girls to look like guys? (by that I mean the "garou girls that have about 80lbs of tanspray on and have bleech blond hair).
If a company (from ANY country) made an RPG that made fun of ALL of these things I would buy it in a heart beat (after Chrono Trigger if it ever came out in 3D), it seems rather perfect to, just take all the RPG cliche's and put them into a single game where one guy/girl (you get to chose before hand) is Normal, kind of like the Bards tale only on a grander more game defining scale. Monsters that for some reason drop large ammounts of Gold, Leveling up to the point of being a god, yet the final boss is ALWAYS stronger then you in some way, Not knowing if someone is a guy or girl, I'm sure there are more that I am missing.
cause if you screw up in the game your house won't burn down, you won't start a grease fire, you won't get burned, your feelings won't get hurt when people say that meal sucked ect.
kind of like saving the world in a game, It's a lot easier to do it there then try and walk into some random persons house, look through their stuff and leave like nothing happened and change the world to belive in what the truth is that could save the world.
or to go back to a small gang and suddenly become a super spy and take over 3 citys...Just easier to do in a game then in real life.
who knows though, using this game you might actually get an idea on how to actually cook and can go and cook real meals.
good points but you forgot the biggest clone of them all
urban *Insert something here*, that seems to be the BIGGEST upswing in clones, knockoff and just plain shitty games. Nothing has been this big since Medal of Honor burst onto the scene and made EVERYONE want to make their own WWII FPS.
it all started with GTA to, it wasn't Urban but it was violent, it got big so someone somewheres said "Hey, let's copy that shit!" and they started making shitty game after shitty game tied in with hip-hop/rap artists (the only one I enjoyed out of all the urban clones has been the Def Jam fighting series), I'm not going to compare Driv3r to GTA cause it's not a clone of GTA, if anything GTA3 is a clone of the Driver series (just pop in Driver 2 and you will see).
take a look at some of the games out right now, 50 cent Bulletproof, Crime Life: Gang wars, 25 to life, 187 ride or die, Def Jam: Fight for New York, Need for Speed Underground 2, Need for Speed Most wanted.
The need for speed series used to be great, with Most wanted they are trying to combine the best part of what used to make the series great (Take out the cops from Hot persuit) and combining it with what is the "in" thing right now (import tuner cars) and viola! instant hit that appeals more to the teens then it does to the people who originally bought Need for speed.
50 cent Bulletproof, Crime Life: Gang wars, 25 to life, 187 ride or die. All of these games have a few things in common, The main character is black & is a thug, They emphasize killing other people but in two cases (25 & 50) they don't really explain why and don't let you get around it for 99% of the game, so you HAVE to kill everyone in order to survive, Crime Life you are taking on a rival gang, 187 you drive around in a race and shoot people. all four of these games take elements that made GTA so great and they more or less piss all over it and screw it up in every regard.
Now I'm not saying every game is original but come on, atleast try and make a good game out of it that has an interesting story aside from one that is impossible to even think would really happen (the only one that is plausable would be Crime life but even that is a stretch).
Def Jam is the only one I find good because it doesn't try to be anything it's not, It's an over the top fighting game featuring real rap artists. Plain and simple, it doesn't try to make us think this game is real, or any of it could actually happen (but in some cases some of it really could happen). It just gives us good gameplay with a good story that is actually understandable and doesn't consider us braindead retards with half a braincell.
I wish I could say I am glad this trend is coming to an end but unfortunatly it isn't, aslong as people see *Insert rap star here* they will rush out to buy it and game companies will rush out to make *Generic game featuring someone famous 37*, I think the only two games that don't feature real people are 25 to life & Crime Life (I don't count Def Jam cause as I said they advertise it as so, the only ones who don't go by their real names are Method Man, Redman & Snoop Dogg).
a short list of games that were worst then their previous games
Dead to Rights II
Devil May Cry 2
Xenosaga Episode II
Halo 2 (the offline story made no sence what so ever, Think The Matrix then Matrix Reloaded, it's almost as if they never planned for a sequal and just threw it in there cause they knew they could milk $50 out of everyone instead of just making an Online add-on disc for Halo)
there's a couple more on the PS2 but I can't think of them at the moment.
out of that list, Only 1, Gears of War.
If they alienate a large part of their customer base and enough people stop going and purchasing their products then they will change.
so thaty would mean an end to shitty games that rely souly on sex appeal to sell?
Then hell yes, get rid of the scantily clad women for good so these games can stop being made.
the very notion of them asking for a credit card number for any reason other than selling things is suspect
Yet for you to even think about getting on Xbox live you require a CREDIT CARD! to access a lot of things it requires some sort of authentication. Those Free AOL Demo discs, you know the ones, They say "NO CREDIT CARD REQUIRED!" yet what is the last step before you can even begin using it? that's right, you need to input your credit card number before it will even let you try it.
Them asking for your email is highly suspect because the only possible reason any company would ever want your email is to send you spam right?
actually, it seemed to work out pretty good for Kyles dad in that one episode of south park.
I'm suprised no one said it yet, the reason Majesco really left major games is simple
Second hand/Used game sales!
seriously though, I'm honestly suprised they aren't using that excusse right now cause it could be a very easy scapegoat.
so if I was to go out and buy a CORE 360, it would be able to play ALL of the games listed on the xbox list?
the other one was pointing out which games could be played when you first got the system, not what you can play right now (aslong as you have a broadband internet connection, Xbox Live & a HDD).
But bikini bottoms? No bikini bottoms?
thank Tecmo & Team Ninja for that little rule, the fire department had to shut their booth down twice because of fire code violations (aka guys who have never seen a real girl before were gathering around it so they could feel another guys boner poking them in the ass.)
well with silent hill & resident evil atleast there is something more then an updated roster.
Silent hill has a continuing story going so each one is different (either for better or worse) so it's not like you spend $50 for the exact same game you bought last year (but if we do go by this then gaming died back in 85 cause since then every game has been done)
With resident evil 4 they finnaly realized it was time for an upgrade, they had been using the same engine for the past 10 years and across 8 games (RE, RE2, RE3, RE: Code Veronica, REmake, RE0, RE Outbreak 1 & 2), now the engine was fine for last generation but when the PS2 & Gamecube came out it was time to drop that style of play but they kept at it till last year (or was it 2004?) before finnaly changing and that is what hurt the series the most.
I do agree on the sports games though, Madden 2000 was the same as 99 it wasn't untill 2003 that they overhauled the game and added A LOT to it, ever since though it's been the same as 2003 but 2006 on the 360 is actually the worst madden cause they took out features that have been in the game for decades which is truely sad.
So I take it piracy isn't as bad as they make it out to seem?
it's those rat bastard sons of bitches buying a used copy of a game that cannot be found in print anywheres cause the company stoped publishing it?
if it wasn't for Game Quest Direct taking a chance and re-printing these games people wouldn't have to spend $100 for a copy of Gitaroo Man or $150 for Rez simply because the original publisher "Wasn't making money off the game New" well do special orders, if someone wants a copy of the game print up an extra one while you are printing "Sameshit you bought last year with a new number on it!" so that person only has to pay $60 for the game (since they are getting a speical order) and you don't lose out on the "Second hand sale for a game you refuse to re-print even though people obviously want it"
but thank god, the pirates can breath a collective sigh of relief now knowing that what they do isn't what is hurting the industry and costing them money.
atleast, that's what I get when I read this whining.
4 years, like with the Xbox?
I live in the US so I wouldn't know but I know it isn't exactly advertised here.
at the rate things are going, it might be possible to do that...but not for atleast another 5-10 years.
there are some games that keep inching closer to the 100 player mark but none of them can manage to stay up long enough for it to fully work (either the games owner shuts it down cause it's a hacked server or the server just crashes from the load).
if anything consoles would be the first place that it could happen, since everyone would have the exact same setup (seeing as it would be an MMORPG everyone would have a HDD) so developers could make it for that one setup, then for the connection would be the only problem (but that's where the 5-10 year thing comes in).
your idea is interesting though, I know a war game would probably get the go ahead first (Battlefeild 3 possibly) but having a game where you really are a part of something would be great.
I used to play Star Wars Galaxies years ago (around the time the space ship expansion was coming out), I was on like week 2 or 3 of paying for it, killing my 300th rat thing when I realized I wasn't part of the universe in anyway what-so-ever, I wasn't making an impact, I wasn't getting any praise for what I was doing. It just seemed so boring, you had to level up fo weeks only to find out you had to level up even more before you got a mission of any importance (I joined the empire and it was always fetch quests with the occasional "Stop these people" quest) it just seemed pointless to fight the same damn thing, wait for hours on end to get a buff just so I could survive 10 feet out of the damn city, so I lost intrest in it and just gave up.
I moved on to City of Heros & City of villians cause I actually felt like I was a part of something, but had to quit it cause I just didn't have the time or money.