what about sending them to jail for hacking the same way the Justice Department likes to sentence other hackers??
MPAA: What? you want to send us to jail? *Pulls out checkbook* Here's $30 mill.
JD: Oh wait, YOU didn't do the hacking, that guy you hired did, we should be going after him. Sorry for wasting your time.
I wish slashdot had a sarcasm button so we could mark our own posts as Jokes.
no one seems to get them on here anymore, it's either you are serious or trying to start a flame war.
I mentioned Dell because they are essentially Microsofts bitch, they never supported anything other then Intel & Windows. Hell they still barely support linux and they just started offering AMD in a more widespread mannor.
Judging by the press for the Wii so far, it looks like they'll be doing both this round.
the press always goes gaga over a Nintendo console, everytime they unvail a new system or handheld they just woo over everything about it.
then it's released and they are bored with it and continually say "nintendo should leave the console market", E3 rolls around, Nintendo unvails a new system and their tune changes "This new system from nintendo is FANTASTIC! This is what they should or released last generation blah blah blah".
I'm getting a Wii before a PS3 (because of the damn price, honestly $600 is way to damn much) but I can already see the press changing when games stop showing up on the Wii and they will be singing their old tune of Nintendo should leave the console market, then a Nintendo made game will come out and bitch slap them into remember why they won't leave the console market.
I would wager that Microsoft will force third party software to support their new filetype.
you forgot to mention how they will say it's free to, then when enough big companies start using it regularly they will start demanding money from everyone for implamenting it in their programs.
Dell computers doesn't have drivers for a BETA OS? I'm shocked SHOCKED! How dare they not support something that isn't widely avalible for the public and could change at the drop of a hate for any reason!
Well that's it, I'll never buy a dell till that start supporting unreleased OS' that the public can't buy or use for another 7+ months!
everyone is suddenly thinking Sony is the only company in the history of corperations to act like they are better then everyone else.
Correct me if I am wrong but didn't Microsoft pull this off years ago (and still pulls it off today)? Didn't Apple act this way back in the 80's (and once again today)?
Nintendo did it with the SNES (going into the N64 they were acting like everyone would buy it simply because it was Nintendo), Sega did it going from the Genesis to the Saturn, Sony is doing it going from the PS2 to the PS3.
Give it a few more years and be amazed when we see "editorials" like this poping up again Complaining about Microsoft's price hiking on their latest system going from a previous one, simply because it sold better then any other system that generation.
I don't get why everyone is so suprised about this, Sony is riding high just as Sega was when they charged $400 for the Saturn, Just like when Nintendo charged $300 for the N64 (I couldn't find them anywheres around here for less) even though both their previous systems sold for $200, Sony released the PS1 for either $400 or $300 (depending where you looked, Toys 'R us charged $400 for it but everywheres else I looked it was only $300) then the PS2 was $300 because they were still trying to break into the gaming market, with the PS2 they got alittle more cocky because they had more third party's on their side then Sega or Nintendo.
Come 2000, Sega is gone, Sony is riding high and Nintendo is trying to reclaim it's crown, Microsoft comes out of nowheres with a system (just like Sony did 5 years prior) and it suprised people, They didn't really have the same support as Sony did 5 years prior but they had enough.
where did the change happen and when did I miss it? Microsoft announced $400 for a 20gb hdd version and everyone is all excited about it and doesn't think it's strange and they justify it instantly. Sony announces a $600 60gb hdd version and suddenly everyone shits their pants and can't understand why they are charging so much for it...what? A new processor is being used, a true next gen drive is in it, it can read just about every kind of card you can think of, yet no one can justify it, Yet when it comes to the 360 "oh yeah it's got that HDD that's why it's more" and that's it, that justifys the $100 higher over last generation?
What's going to be interesting is to see what Nintendo unltimatly sells the Wii at, everyone is automatically assuming it will be no more then $200, But what happens if they charge $250 or even $300 for it? will people act like they are over the PS3 or will they justify it quite nicely and act like it was to be expected?
Since Wii is supposed to be slightly more powerfull than the GameCube, who cares.
cause then all we are doing is rebuying a "Slightly more powerfull Gamecube" then a whole new system.
This (aside from the controller) will cost them third party's more then anything, sure the ones that actually bothered with the GC will have an easy time with the Wii but there are how many third party's that didn't release anything at all on the cube?
more then likely the awnser is yes. ,br>
someone probably though "COOL! I can get free games now!" did it incorrectly and could no longer boot regular 360 games, called up Microsoft and asked about it went through the normal questions and found out he would have to send the console in, realizing this he (cause let's face it, only a guy would be THIS stupid) mentioned that he tried to fix it himself and ended up taking the thing apart to try and fix it, they knew right away what he did and let him know thus he freaked out.
Personally, MS should of just put a recording for when people call "If you have opened your system for illegal modification we know who you are and where you live and we WILL be in contact with you", would make for some really funny moments.
(And I capitalize SONY because that's how the SONY logo is, not to try and be a dick, FYI)
ah ok, thank you for clearing that up, everytime I see someone mention sony it's always in the capital letters and going by the netiquett rules that means that you are either emphasizing something or shouting.
and I agree with you 100%, I hope I am dead wrong about Sony or Microsoft dominating next gen, I don't see Sony dominating next gen though not when you can get a very very good gaming PC for the same price (and if you are on a budget for christmas something that expensive is usually a family gift).
I honestly still don't get what the huge deal is over high definition either, I've seen HDTV running at the cable company when I pay the bill and it looks just like my TV at home, aside from the TV having the boxes on the left and right instead of at the top. I've seen the PLasma & LCD TV's displaying things at Walmart and Best buy, sure they aren't hooked up properly (only done through the RGB instead of actual digital signal) it makes me go Wow when I see how crisp the picture is but then I start thinking about what the TV would be used for, Video games (which is slowing down for me on a console) and general TV. I hardly watch any movies that would require me to have an HDTV and since they still cost way to much for a decent size, so you look at it and to get a "proper" TV for the PS3 you are looking at a minimum of $400 so a whole PS3 package is going to cost $1000 to get the "full true experiance".
as you said, that's just way to much for something so little. That's the reason I hope nintendo just dominates next gen, I plan on picking up a Wii before anything else simply because it looks really interesting and something my family can all play without problems (my mom and nephues play games but my mom hasn't played many cause you have to react way to fast and there's to many buttons, but the Wii solves that) and if it's true that it will launch for $200 then I will be picking it up around launch.
I guess I can't say the same thing about SONY. Between rootkits, lies, overpriced consoles, ripoffs of genuinely innovative technology, and just their brash arrogance in thinking that they can do whatever they hell they want and people will still purchase their crap because they're "SONY", I just start to get more irritated with them every time I see a SONY headline. I think they're in for a very rude awakening come the PS3 release.
I love comments like these cause their so easy to twist around,
I guess I can't say the same thing about MICROSOFT. Between DRM Schemes, lies, overpriced consoles, ripoffs of genuinely innovative technology, and just their brash arrogance in thinking that they can do whatever they hell they want and people will still purchase their crap because they're "MICROSOFT", I just start to get more irritated with them every time I see a MICROSOFT headline. I think they're in for a very rude awakening come the Xbox 360 release.
wasn't that fun children?
everyone is expecting Nintendo to be the leader come next generation once the Wii is released, people will sell their 360's skip the PS3 and go right for the Wii cause it's innovative. Guess what? It ain't going to happen.
I've been a huge fan of Nintendo since the NES days, I've bought every system (except for a Vitrual Boy) they have released played every game made by nintendo that was released in the USA but I realize they are in for the long haul, they have a better chance at second place then they did with the Gamecube but there isn't any way they could finish first. Everything is about graphics now, not innovation. Blood and gore is what mainstream want's not fun and quirky games of the past. Interesting story's take a back seat to bump mapping, anti-aliasing and all that other crap, the higher you can get that stuff to be the better your game is according to the mainstream gamer.
I really do wish Nintendo would just dominate next gen, just obliterate Microsoft & Sony when it comes to sales but it just won't happen because their controller is to different for third party's to get. so it will get about as much support as the gamecube did, that is untill that one special game comes out just like with the DS that shows off what you really can do with your games, then there will be a string of copy cat games before they just go back tot he way they were while nintendo continues to release the kickass games.
I do agree with the first comment though, Thank god Nintendo realizes that Episodic content is doomed to failure ($20 per instalation, you get a LONG game that has 9 installments you are paying $180 for a full game, only have to wait 18 months for), In game advertising can work depending on the game and the ad though (I just can't picture Mario collecting Nike shoes to "enhance his jumping ability", just like getting some adidas clothes in Final fantasy but it CAN work in FPS' and games like GTA & any sports game).
The only thing I want to know is how much those downloads are going to be for old games.
oh yeah they are profitable, because they don't go overboard with the technology.
Microsoft is using multipul processors and a top of the line graphics card both money losers.
Sony is just going for overkill on their system (and it wouldn't suprise me if they were STILL losing money even at $600)
Nintendo realizes that they don't have to go overboard with what is cutting edge at the time on PC's cause they apperantly know that it won't mean diddly in 2 years since everything on the PC will be 10x better, They don't want to make a Media center, they don't want to make a next gen format player, they just want to make a game console.
There, the fanboys happy now I said something posotive about Nintendo this time?
what get's me is the advertisers and TV execs think this is something brand new and has never been heard of before.
Correct me if I am wrong but haven't VCR's been around for quite a long time that allowed you to record TV?
Wasn't that it's big selling point to? That you could record TV if you couldn't catch the program in time and skip the commercials?
Why are they acting like DVR's are the worst thing to ever happen to TV? is it because they allow you to record TWO shows at once? (Unless you build one of those uber DVR's and record 6 or 8 shows at once, but if you are doing that you have problems) where as the VCR you could only record one show at a time.
you are right about making commercials people actually want to watch, I remember for a couple of years I looked forward to the Super Bowl, not because it was football but because that ment the new funny & interesting commercials were coming out, this pas SB though just bomed because they got to damn greedy (what was it 2.5million per 30 seconds this year?) so there were hardly any new or interesting commercials, just the same stuff we had seen all year long (there were some new ones thuogh but not as many as there used to be).
wasn't it not to long ago they were talking about making commercials Live or fit in with the show? why not do like you said, hire some real writters and make commercials in ways people would like to see. Make multipule demographic commercials for your product to get more people to buy it, sure it might cost a little more but atleast you will be reaching every demographic you can.
well that's just it, you can play it at basic mode, most people would like to have some sort of fancy effects for their game, that's where gaming PC comes in. I tried to play Oblivion on my PC but it wouldn't run (same with Quake 4 and fear) after upgrading only my GFX card and power supply (it was needed for the card) I can run any game with no problems (other then FEAR lags like crazy but that's cause it auto set everything to max but my ram is only 512mb), I'm enjoying playing games more on the PC once again cause I get to actually enjoy these games instead of waiting 10-15 minutes for a stage to load only to find out I can't play it at all.
I neve3r did get to play Farcry (it would instantly crash with my old card or have HUGE graphical glitches) so I didn't realize that it didn't allow save anywheres.
Nintendo has been on top of E3 everytime they release a new system, yet how well were the sales for the N64 & Gamecube again?
being on top at a public game show (don't try to deny it's for the press only) is like saying "Jaguar came out on top at the detroit auto show" sure they have some really nice looking cars but it doesn't mean they are going to be the leader in sales when they start selling those cars.
well for starters they are making their devkit cost only $2,000. if that doesn't make developers go "sure we will make a game for you" I don't know what will.
Especially since Microsoft's devkit costs around $50,000 - $100,000 (last I read) and the PS3 devkit is something like $16 million.
you forgot to factor in that Nintendo screwed sony over (thus the reason we even have playstation today and in doing so they screwed themselves over aswell.
Cartridge based games were running out, there was no point in them anymore, CD's were extremly cheap to get and press compared to them so developers wanted those, Nintendo couldn't offer them and stuck with Cartridges, Being that Nintendo was the only place you could get them from you had to pay more for them.
Sony was desperat to get developers on board so they did what was natural, they didn't enforce any rules & they didn't over charge on media, same with the PS2, now they have their own media so now it goes back to the N64/PS1 days only the roles are reversed, Nintendo FINNALY wised up and realised that developers don't care for propriatary formats where they can only get them from one source.
What I want to know is why are these games $60 on consoles yet $40 or $50 on the PC?
if there's no reason for the PS3 to cost $600 then why is Microsoft charging $400 for it's system?
Nintendo is rumored to go with a price point no higher then $250 (which would make it their most expensive console without a game to date) so obviously that means Microsoft & Sony can do with their systems being in the same price point correct?
Let's not forget that the Walkman, the very product that "put Sony on the map", was in fact stolen. It took over 20 years to settle the case. meanwhile Sony profited enormously.
hmm, why does that sound so familiar? oh wait I know, Microsoft did the exact samething! as does every company to ever "create" something.
Wow! Someone should invent a mass produced and mass marketed plastic disc that holds video and sound.
They tried that, but it turned out someone had a thinly vailed patent that somehow covered it so they couldn't make them anymore.
good news is they are trying something different that supposedly has a ton of space but it comes at the cost of fucking everyone over with what they already bought.
I understand Microsoft has a monoply, no problems there but what I don't get is how you summed everything up.
Microsoft doesn't force anyone to use the programs that are pre-installed on the system.
First thing I do after reinstalling windows is head to ATI and get my graphic card drivers (naturally) then I go and get the programs I want.
Sure Media player is there but I consider it bloated for what I use, so I go and grab media player classic cause it does what I want and it's not bloated. Infact the ONLY thing I use Media Player for is to get music on my MP3 player (cause I haven't found a program that works with it, never looked hard though).
For DVD's I use PowerDVD cause I like the way it looks (but then I only use it to test movies I make to make sure they turn out properly)
I use IE to head over to firefox and get that install it and use it as my default browser. I then grab Thunderbird and use it as my default email client, Simply because I never cared for Outlook (no clue why just never did).
Not once have I seen a window pop up saying I can't install them/I shouldn't install them because I already have a program on My PC that takes care of that.
Why don't they go after the 360 while they are at it? it's the only system to offer a wireless controller , Hard drive Headset and a couple other things out of the box (Remember this is right now) the PS2 & Gamecube don't offer this it's a monopoly cause they are including things that their competetors don't for free! they aren't FORCING anyone to use the stuff, they aren't FORCING anyone to buy it but when they do they get alittle something extra for free.
As much as I hate microsoft what they went after them for was pointless, They were trying to make it easier for the end user to just turn on the computer and have it work. If they didn't include Media player your average computer user wouldn't know how to play a video cause there is no player (as it is with the different codecs it makes it hard enough), so they want to go look for a player but suprise! they had to take IE out of the OS so you don't even have the web anymore, it was considered anti-competative and they were forced to take it out, so now what are you to do?
Just like when they first got taken to court and had to take Office out of Windows, who did this hurt more? Microsoft or the end user?
When I went from Windows 95 to windows ME (I know, one shitty OS to another shitty OS) I wondered what had happened to all the stuff that was in 95, Word was gone (which my mother used on a daily basis) yet I had no clue what to tell her, I went searching and found out they were forced to take it out cause it was anti-competative. I just couldn't (and still can't) wrap my mind around this, Were there really that many word proccesing programs out there that microsoft including one in their OS hurt buisness?
I didn't learn about OpenOffice till like 2003 and when I tried to use it it kept crashing and was way to bloated (it's better now though), I did find one program called ABIWord (I think that was it, their mascot was an Ant) but it crashed CONSTANTLY, my mother couldn't open a document for more then 5 minutes before it errored.
so in the end, the government forcing microsoft to split Office from Windows did basically nothing except cause my mom problems with the documents she had from windows 95, since she could no longer open them without Office.
Like a few people said above, they are only going after Microsoft because they are the most widely used OS. If it was Apple they would be going after them, if it was Linux they would be going after them.
Now what they should go after microsoft for is their tactic of signing a contract to publish a program, take the source code, finish it up, cancel the contract, claim ownership the program and either sue the crap out of the company they were going to help or just let them rot away.
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don't forget to trademark it in other languages aswell.
some company might get smart and say it's different cause it's in a different language.
what about sending them to jail for hacking the same way the Justice Department likes to sentence other hackers??
MPAA: What? you want to send us to jail? *Pulls out checkbook* Here's $30 mill.
JD: Oh wait, YOU didn't do the hacking, that guy you hired did, we should be going after him. Sorry for wasting your time.
That's how they won't go to jail.
I wish slashdot had a sarcasm button so we could mark our own posts as Jokes.
no one seems to get them on here anymore, it's either you are serious or trying to start a flame war.
I mentioned Dell because they are essentially Microsofts bitch, they never supported anything other then Intel & Windows. Hell they still barely support linux and they just started offering AMD in a more widespread mannor.
Judging by the press for the Wii so far, it looks like they'll be doing both this round.
the press always goes gaga over a Nintendo console, everytime they unvail a new system or handheld they just woo over everything about it.
then it's released and they are bored with it and continually say "nintendo should leave the console market", E3 rolls around, Nintendo unvails a new system and their tune changes "This new system from nintendo is FANTASTIC! This is what they should or released last generation blah blah blah".
I'm getting a Wii before a PS3 (because of the damn price, honestly $600 is way to damn much) but I can already see the press changing when games stop showing up on the Wii and they will be singing their old tune of Nintendo should leave the console market, then a Nintendo made game will come out and bitch slap them into remember why they won't leave the console market.
I would wager that Microsoft will force third party software to support their new filetype.
you forgot to mention how they will say it's free to, then when enough big companies start using it regularly they will start demanding money from everyone for implamenting it in their programs.
just like when JPEG got started, oh and MP3's.
4- generally bone headed their way through every press conference they have had without apologizing directly for any of their bad behavior.
Damn, guess that rules out getting a 360 aswell.
really?
Dell computers doesn't have drivers for a BETA OS? I'm shocked SHOCKED! How dare they not support something that isn't widely avalible for the public and could change at the drop of a hate for any reason!
Well that's it, I'll never buy a dell till that start supporting unreleased OS' that the public can't buy or use for another 7+ months!
*Hands a government official a breifcase with $500,000 inside* I see we have come to an agreement for you to stop pressuring us.
gotta love buisness in the good ol US of A.
that's the thing I always find funny.
everyone is suddenly thinking Sony is the only company in the history of corperations to act like they are better then everyone else.
Correct me if I am wrong but didn't Microsoft pull this off years ago (and still pulls it off today)? Didn't Apple act this way back in the 80's (and once again today)?
Nintendo did it with the SNES (going into the N64 they were acting like everyone would buy it simply because it was Nintendo), Sega did it going from the Genesis to the Saturn, Sony is doing it going from the PS2 to the PS3.
Give it a few more years and be amazed when we see "editorials" like this poping up again Complaining about Microsoft's price hiking on their latest system going from a previous one, simply because it sold better then any other system that generation.
I don't get why everyone is so suprised about this, Sony is riding high just as Sega was when they charged $400 for the Saturn, Just like when Nintendo charged $300 for the N64 (I couldn't find them anywheres around here for less) even though both their previous systems sold for $200, Sony released the PS1 for either $400 or $300 (depending where you looked, Toys 'R us charged $400 for it but everywheres else I looked it was only $300) then the PS2 was $300 because they were still trying to break into the gaming market, with the PS2 they got alittle more cocky because they had more third party's on their side then Sega or Nintendo.
Come 2000, Sega is gone, Sony is riding high and Nintendo is trying to reclaim it's crown, Microsoft comes out of nowheres with a system (just like Sony did 5 years prior) and it suprised people, They didn't really have the same support as Sony did 5 years prior but they had enough.
where did the change happen and when did I miss it? Microsoft announced $400 for a 20gb hdd version and everyone is all excited about it and doesn't think it's strange and they justify it instantly. Sony announces a $600 60gb hdd version and suddenly everyone shits their pants and can't understand why they are charging so much for it...what? A new processor is being used, a true next gen drive is in it, it can read just about every kind of card you can think of, yet no one can justify it, Yet when it comes to the 360 "oh yeah it's got that HDD that's why it's more" and that's it, that justifys the $100 higher over last generation?
What's going to be interesting is to see what Nintendo unltimatly sells the Wii at, everyone is automatically assuming it will be no more then $200, But what happens if they charge $250 or even $300 for it? will people act like they are over the PS3 or will they justify it quite nicely and act like it was to be expected?
Since Wii is supposed to be slightly more powerfull than the GameCube, who cares.
cause then all we are doing is rebuying a "Slightly more powerfull Gamecube" then a whole new system.
This (aside from the controller) will cost them third party's more then anything, sure the ones that actually bothered with the GC will have an easy time with the Wii but there are how many third party's that didn't release anything at all on the cube?
not quite, you are only off by about £375, $800.00 = £426.54
more then likely the awnser is yes.
,br> someone probably though "COOL! I can get free games now!" did it incorrectly and could no longer boot regular 360 games, called up Microsoft and asked about it went through the normal questions and found out he would have to send the console in, realizing this he (cause let's face it, only a guy would be THIS stupid) mentioned that he tried to fix it himself and ended up taking the thing apart to try and fix it, they knew right away what he did and let him know thus he freaked out.
Personally, MS should of just put a recording for when people call "If you have opened your system for illegal modification we know who you are and where you live and we WILL be in contact with you", would make for some really funny moments.
(And I capitalize SONY because that's how the SONY logo is, not to try and be a dick, FYI)
ah ok, thank you for clearing that up, everytime I see someone mention sony it's always in the capital letters and going by the netiquett rules that means that you are either emphasizing something or shouting.
and I agree with you 100%, I hope I am dead wrong about Sony or Microsoft dominating next gen, I don't see Sony dominating next gen though not when you can get a very very good gaming PC for the same price (and if you are on a budget for christmas something that expensive is usually a family gift).
I honestly still don't get what the huge deal is over high definition either, I've seen HDTV running at the cable company when I pay the bill and it looks just like my TV at home, aside from the TV having the boxes on the left and right instead of at the top. I've seen the PLasma & LCD TV's displaying things at Walmart and Best buy, sure they aren't hooked up properly (only done through the RGB instead of actual digital signal) it makes me go Wow when I see how crisp the picture is but then I start thinking about what the TV would be used for, Video games (which is slowing down for me on a console) and general TV. I hardly watch any movies that would require me to have an HDTV and since they still cost way to much for a decent size, so you look at it and to get a "proper" TV for the PS3 you are looking at a minimum of $400 so a whole PS3 package is going to cost $1000 to get the "full true experiance".
as you said, that's just way to much for something so little. That's the reason I hope nintendo just dominates next gen, I plan on picking up a Wii before anything else simply because it looks really interesting and something my family can all play without problems (my mom and nephues play games but my mom hasn't played many cause you have to react way to fast and there's to many buttons, but the Wii solves that) and if it's true that it will launch for $200 then I will be picking it up around launch.
I guess I can't say the same thing about SONY. Between rootkits, lies, overpriced consoles, ripoffs of genuinely innovative technology, and just their brash arrogance in thinking that they can do whatever they hell they want and people will still purchase their crap because they're "SONY", I just start to get more irritated with them every time I see a SONY headline. I think they're in for a very rude awakening come the PS3 release.
I love comments like these cause their so easy to twist around,
I guess I can't say the same thing about MICROSOFT. Between DRM Schemes, lies, overpriced consoles, ripoffs of genuinely innovative technology, and just their brash arrogance in thinking that they can do whatever they hell they want and people will still purchase their crap because they're "MICROSOFT", I just start to get more irritated with them every time I see a MICROSOFT headline. I think they're in for a very rude awakening come the Xbox 360 release.
wasn't that fun children?
everyone is expecting Nintendo to be the leader come next generation once the Wii is released, people will sell their 360's skip the PS3 and go right for the Wii cause it's innovative. Guess what? It ain't going to happen.
I've been a huge fan of Nintendo since the NES days, I've bought every system (except for a Vitrual Boy) they have released played every game made by nintendo that was released in the USA but I realize they are in for the long haul, they have a better chance at second place then they did with the Gamecube but there isn't any way they could finish first. Everything is about graphics now, not innovation. Blood and gore is what mainstream want's not fun and quirky games of the past. Interesting story's take a back seat to bump mapping, anti-aliasing and all that other crap, the higher you can get that stuff to be the better your game is according to the mainstream gamer.
I really do wish Nintendo would just dominate next gen, just obliterate Microsoft & Sony when it comes to sales but it just won't happen because their controller is to different for third party's to get. so it will get about as much support as the gamecube did, that is untill that one special game comes out just like with the DS that shows off what you really can do with your games, then there will be a string of copy cat games before they just go back tot he way they were while nintendo continues to release the kickass games.
I do agree with the first comment though, Thank god Nintendo realizes that Episodic content is doomed to failure ($20 per instalation, you get a LONG game that has 9 installments you are paying $180 for a full game, only have to wait 18 months for), In game advertising can work depending on the game and the ad though (I just can't picture Mario collecting Nike shoes to "enhance his jumping ability", just like getting some adidas clothes in Final fantasy but it CAN work in FPS' and games like GTA & any sports game).
The only thing I want to know is how much those downloads are going to be for old games.
oh yeah they are profitable, because they don't go overboard with the technology.
Microsoft is using multipul processors and a top of the line graphics card both money losers.
Sony is just going for overkill on their system (and it wouldn't suprise me if they were STILL losing money even at $600)
Nintendo realizes that they don't have to go overboard with what is cutting edge at the time on PC's cause they apperantly know that it won't mean diddly in 2 years since everything on the PC will be 10x better, They don't want to make a Media center, they don't want to make a next gen format player, they just want to make a game console.
There, the fanboys happy now I said something posotive about Nintendo this time?
what get's me is the advertisers and TV execs think this is something brand new and has never been heard of before.
Correct me if I am wrong but haven't VCR's been around for quite a long time that allowed you to record TV?
Wasn't that it's big selling point to? That you could record TV if you couldn't catch the program in time and skip the commercials?
Why are they acting like DVR's are the worst thing to ever happen to TV? is it because they allow you to record TWO shows at once? (Unless you build one of those uber DVR's and record 6 or 8 shows at once, but if you are doing that you have problems) where as the VCR you could only record one show at a time.
you are right about making commercials people actually want to watch, I remember for a couple of years I looked forward to the Super Bowl, not because it was football but because that ment the new funny & interesting commercials were coming out, this pas SB though just bomed because they got to damn greedy (what was it 2.5million per 30 seconds this year?) so there were hardly any new or interesting commercials, just the same stuff we had seen all year long (there were some new ones thuogh but not as many as there used to be).
wasn't it not to long ago they were talking about making commercials Live or fit in with the show? why not do like you said, hire some real writters and make commercials in ways people would like to see. Make multipule demographic commercials for your product to get more people to buy it, sure it might cost a little more but atleast you will be reaching every demographic you can.
well that's just it, you can play it at basic mode, most people would like to have some sort of fancy effects for their game, that's where gaming PC comes in. I tried to play Oblivion on my PC but it wouldn't run (same with Quake 4 and fear) after upgrading only my GFX card and power supply (it was needed for the card) I can run any game with no problems (other then FEAR lags like crazy but that's cause it auto set everything to max but my ram is only 512mb), I'm enjoying playing games more on the PC once again cause I get to actually enjoy these games instead of waiting 10-15 minutes for a stage to load only to find out I can't play it at all.
I neve3r did get to play Farcry (it would instantly crash with my old card or have HUGE graphical glitches) so I didn't realize that it didn't allow save anywheres.
are you dumb?
Nintendo has been on top of E3 everytime they release a new system, yet how well were the sales for the N64 & Gamecube again?
being on top at a public game show (don't try to deny it's for the press only) is like saying "Jaguar came out on top at the detroit auto show" sure they have some really nice looking cars but it doesn't mean they are going to be the leader in sales when they start selling those cars.
but what if the kid doesn't want a Wii they want a PS3?
you get a whiney screaming kid who no longer belives in santa because he didn't bring the right gift.
well for starters they are making their devkit cost only $2,000. if that doesn't make developers go "sure we will make a game for you" I don't know what will.
Especially since Microsoft's devkit costs around $50,000 - $100,000 (last I read) and the PS3 devkit is something like $16 million.
you forgot to factor in that Nintendo screwed sony over (thus the reason we even have playstation today and in doing so they screwed themselves over aswell.
Cartridge based games were running out, there was no point in them anymore, CD's were extremly cheap to get and press compared to them so developers wanted those, Nintendo couldn't offer them and stuck with Cartridges, Being that Nintendo was the only place you could get them from you had to pay more for them.
Sony was desperat to get developers on board so they did what was natural, they didn't enforce any rules & they didn't over charge on media, same with the PS2, now they have their own media so now it goes back to the N64/PS1 days only the roles are reversed, Nintendo FINNALY wised up and realised that developers don't care for propriatary formats where they can only get them from one source.
What I want to know is why are these games $60 on consoles yet $40 or $50 on the PC?
if there's no reason for the PS3 to cost $600 then why is Microsoft charging $400 for it's system?
Nintendo is rumored to go with a price point no higher then $250 (which would make it their most expensive console without a game to date) so obviously that means Microsoft & Sony can do with their systems being in the same price point correct?
Let's not forget that the Walkman, the very product that "put Sony on the map", was in fact stolen. It took over 20 years to settle the case. meanwhile Sony profited enormously.
hmm, why does that sound so familiar? oh wait I know, Microsoft did the exact samething! as does every company to ever "create" something.
Wow! Someone should invent a mass produced and mass marketed plastic disc that holds video and sound.
They tried that, but it turned out someone had a thinly vailed patent that somehow covered it so they couldn't make them anymore.
good news is they are trying something different that supposedly has a ton of space but it comes at the cost of fucking everyone over with what they already bought.
I understand Microsoft has a monoply, no problems there but what I don't get is how you summed everything up.
Microsoft doesn't force anyone to use the programs that are pre-installed on the system.
First thing I do after reinstalling windows is head to ATI and get my graphic card drivers (naturally) then I go and get the programs I want.
Sure Media player is there but I consider it bloated for what I use, so I go and grab media player classic cause it does what I want and it's not bloated. Infact the ONLY thing I use Media Player for is to get music on my MP3 player (cause I haven't found a program that works with it, never looked hard though).
For DVD's I use PowerDVD cause I like the way it looks (but then I only use it to test movies I make to make sure they turn out properly)
I use IE to head over to firefox and get that install it and use it as my default browser. I then grab Thunderbird and use it as my default email client, Simply because I never cared for Outlook (no clue why just never did).
Not once have I seen a window pop up saying I can't install them/I shouldn't install them because I already have a program on My PC that takes care of that.
Why don't they go after the 360 while they are at it? it's the only system to offer a wireless controller , Hard drive Headset and a couple other things out of the box (Remember this is right now) the PS2 & Gamecube don't offer this it's a monopoly cause they are including things that their competetors don't for free! they aren't FORCING anyone to use the stuff, they aren't FORCING anyone to buy it but when they do they get alittle something extra for free.
As much as I hate microsoft what they went after them for was pointless, They were trying to make it easier for the end user to just turn on the computer and have it work. If they didn't include Media player your average computer user wouldn't know how to play a video cause there is no player (as it is with the different codecs it makes it hard enough), so they want to go look for a player but suprise! they had to take IE out of the OS so you don't even have the web anymore, it was considered anti-competative and they were forced to take it out, so now what are you to do?
Just like when they first got taken to court and had to take Office out of Windows, who did this hurt more? Microsoft or the end user?
When I went from Windows 95 to windows ME (I know, one shitty OS to another shitty OS) I wondered what had happened to all the stuff that was in 95, Word was gone (which my mother used on a daily basis) yet I had no clue what to tell her, I went searching and found out they were forced to take it out cause it was anti-competative. I just couldn't (and still can't) wrap my mind around this, Were there really that many word proccesing programs out there that microsoft including one in their OS hurt buisness?
I didn't learn about OpenOffice till like 2003 and when I tried to use it it kept crashing and was way to bloated (it's better now though), I did find one program called ABIWord (I think that was it, their mascot was an Ant) but it crashed CONSTANTLY, my mother couldn't open a document for more then 5 minutes before it errored.
so in the end, the government forcing microsoft to split Office from Windows did basically nothing except cause my mom problems with the documents she had from windows 95, since she could no longer open them without Office.
Like a few people said above, they are only going after Microsoft because they are the most widely used OS. If it was Apple they would be going after them, if it was Linux they would be going after them.
Now what they should go after microsoft for is their tactic of signing a contract to publish a program, take the source code, finish it up, cancel the contract, claim ownership the program and either sue the crap out of the company they were going to help or just let them rot away.