When Microsoft pushed this update, it plain and outright broke a lot of our customers ability to even surf on the web. It was random for sure. I just kind of boil it down to MS just not getting it. Like releasing what I would consider a alpha release. They could ping out and get info back, etc. Just a support nightmare for a while, and yep.. we pointed them to MS support to fix their crap software, while recommending Firefox.
I can imagine what a ie8 release will bring... more headaches.
Exactly. Fear over reason. Asbestos isn't nearly so dangerous, if handled correctly, as to outweigh the benefits it provides. Yes when it was used carelessly (even if from ignorance at the time) and people were working daily in a cloud of the stuff without even a filter mask, it caused some nasty side effects.
Just tell this to the folks up in Libby, Montana. (google "asbestos libby mt") As they say, "shit happens" but when it personally effects YOU then things are a tad different.
I've also been using Linux forever, since the pre-1.0 days. As you said, as a server it is rock solid, but as a normal desktop computer it is somewhat less forgiving. On the other hand, I've been using kubuntu for the past couple years and it works well for me, and have had only a few issues with upgrading to LCD and a new nvidia card, and even that wasn't bad, since I'm familiar with xorg.conf. (a normal joe user would have gave up though) Another funny comparison is that I bought a iMac this year, what sold me was the bash prompt.;) Works good enough that the kids now use the linux box, and I retired the old pentium 120MHz Gateway, and use the iMac for my normal dev / all around system.
Issues that I consider non-forgiving to the new Linux average computer user would be: Watching dvd movies. (or burning) Tv card support still sucks for auto detection. Lack of drivers for new video cards. Lack of games compared to the Windows world.
Now, granted we can fault lack of open specs, etc to some of these issues, but to the normal computer user they just don't care. Shit should just work.
Fine with me. I'm sick of software getting released early with bugs. I've alpha tested software that's more stable than a certain OS that's came out lately. (cough.. Vista) And a personal plug towards APC, their software blows on OS X, hell apcupsd works fine.
Just checked it out also, and it works fairly well. It didn't pick out my favorite pizza joint out of the top selections. Voice recognition was good, although I didn't try out the hooker aspect, but it picked up on "automotive repair" and "cars". Not bad for a first look.
You know, 1984 this was required reading back in the late 70's when I was in high school. Matter of fact, a lot of the things I was taught are pretty much ignored now days. (such as the holocaust) Personally, I think the British people have put WAY to much trust in their government. And before I get bashed here, I didn't vote for the current government we have in the US, and totally disagree with most of "their" policies. I don't know ANYthing about UK government politics/policies btw.
You know, I've always considered myself as a geek type. I've built all of my PC's for about 15 years. When tax time rolled around this year I made the jump and bought a 20" iMac. I just love the damn thing, for a few reasons.
It's simple to use, the UI is straight forward, it has a welcome familiar terminal, etc. Being that I've used Linux since before 1.0 came out it also has a lot of tools I'm used to. Things I don't really like about Apple are the high prices, and the mouse sucks also. (I replaced it with a Logitech right away) Apple will get some more money from me next year, when I pick up another computer for the kids. Another thing I'd like to point out to people is that you CAN dig into the OS and install QT, Xcode and a ton of other familiar tools for Linux. This feature I personally thought was a positive prior to purchase.
Any politician who thinks he's going to get votes by making a myspace account deserves whatever he gets dished. Reminds me of the clueless professor from Real Genius who thought his students like it when he would "get down, verbally" with them.
First off, you're talking out of your ass. This man was shot down in the Vietnam war and a prisoner of war at the famous / infamous "Hanoi Hilton". This man broke both arms and a leg, was tortured and survived. He ejected from his plane back in 1967 and was released in 1974 I do believe. Quite a feat in my book. He might be labeled a bad political choice, but he deserves respect.
I'll go one better. Cut the fucking thing off the net until the user fixes the problem.
This is exactly what we do. The rule at our company is simple. 3 strike policy, and your out. If you send out a shitload of spam, etc we suspend the account. They then call in and bitch, we explain the situation and how they can resolve it by setting up a firewall, anti-virus software, etc. Or, refer them to a local computer tech to reinstall the OS, etc. If it happens again, strike 2. We inform them that they have one more chance to get it correct, or they are history.., no service again. Unfair? Nope. Our NOC watches this crap all the time. OS of choice for this crap is always Windows btw.
The certification test is offered to CompTIA members for $180. The fee for non-members is $225.
Wow, a person can't actually setup their wireless router/access point. Big frick'in surprise. And now you should pay an additional fee to have a cert that any well mannered geek should be skilled at to begin with.
I feel that this is more of a manufacture issue, doc/instruction wise. Come on, enough is enough. IF people actually had a clue. Wireless routers suck big time from some manufactures. Belkin won't even support 8MB down on some models. Then you have issues with them losing IP address's from the cable modem, doing a power cycle on the router and all is well. Linksys seems to be good at this one. (yep, I work tech support at a broadband company) Poof!
It's taken me at least a thousand hours,' he said. The case has an aluminum interior frame to support the computer workings. The outer frame is made of oak and maple.
Basically it just amounts to what people want to spend on something that goes with their lifestyle or decor. Kinda like driving a Honda vs a H1 Hummer. Give them a what for.., personal choice works. (kinda like white carpet.. why?);)
TO ALL THE KIDS WHO SURVIVED THE 1930's 40's, 50's, 60's and 70's !!
First, we survived being born to mothers who smoked and/or drank while they were pregnant.
They took aspirin, ate blue cheese dressing, tuna from a can, and didn't get tested for diabetes.
Then after that trauma, we were put to sleep on our tummies in baby cribs covered with bright colored lead-based paints.
We had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, doors or cabinets and when we rode our bikes, we had no helmets, not to mention, the risks we took hitchhiking.
As infants & children, we would ride in cars with no car seats, booster seats, seat belts or air bags.
Riding in the back of a pick up on a warm day was always a special treat.
We drank water from the garden hose and NOT from a bottle.
We shared one soft drink with four friends, from one bottle and NO ONE actually died from this. We ate cupcakes, white bread and real butter and drank koolade made with sugar, but we weren't overweight because,
WE WERE ALWAYS OUTSIDE PLAYING !
We would leave home in the morning and play all day, as long as we were back when the streetlights came on.
No one was able to reach us all day.
And we were O.K. We would spend hours building our go-carts out of scraps and then ride down the hill, only to find out we forgot the brakes. After running into the bushes a few times, we learned to solve the problem.
We did not have Playstations, Nintendo's, X-boxes, no video games at all, no 150 channels on cable, no video movies or DVD's, no surround-sound or CD's, no cell phones, no personal computers, no Internet or chat rooms.......
WE HAD FRIENDS and we went outside and found them!
We fell out of trees, got cut, broke bones and teeth
AND there were no lawsuits from these accidents.
We ate worms and mud pies made from dirt, and the worms did not live in us forever.
We were given BB guns for our 10th birthdays, made up games with sticks and tennis balls and, although we were told it would happen, we did not put out very many eyes.
We rode bikes or walked to a friend's house and knocked on the door or rang the bell, or just walked in and talked to them!
Little League had tryouts and not everyone made the team. Those who didn't had to learn to deal with disappointment.
Imagine that!! The idea of a parent bailing us out if we broke the law was unheard of.
I happen to work for a company (not Dell) that offers a discount for purchasing a Dell system up to $1500. They'll fork the bill, and I have 2 years to pay it back out of my paycheck.
Good deal? Yes, but then again I'm not going to take advantage of this program if I have to get a system with Vista installed. XP Pro, maybe. Personally, I'd rather have a Apple option.. it's more like home if I have at least a terminal option and that familiar bash prompt.
Same old Microsoft. They can't invent crap anymore, so when a company such as VMware comes out with something that works, is innovative, MS does what they do what they always do best..., restrict the competition. I hate MS just like most/. users, but just once I'd like to see them actually create something original. (yep.. and like that will happen anytime soon)
Really, this isn't any type of security measure at all. Humm, don't ya think they might have the data on this already? It's not like you move buildings around.
Things wont change that much, because most parents don't use that type software. Those that do, don't know how to use it, or don't feel they need to monitor their children. Typical Window's users.
As a parent, and a Linux user at home and Windows user I'd agree to a certain point. My kids want to use/see certain sites that I just don't agree with. My house, I pay the bills for internet, end of frickin story. I don't actually block sites, but I let them know which ones they should avoid.
Another thing, WTF are you grouping this as a "Typical Windows User"? Moron.
Cable companies are right now huge monstrosities, leaving no space for creativity because of their market shares. If other companies could produce boxes that could have new features, like maybe a TiVo in the box, consumers would have better options.
Now, another way to look at it from the Cable company. These "special" features that the box you buy. Why would they support these features? Would the software "at" the cable company work with features of say box, a b and c box? The software at these cable companies is specialized. I should know, I work in tech support at one. There is now way in hell that they will support a box they do not provide unless the manufacturer of said box releases the information required. Simple. The customer will get referred to the manufacturer. Another thing, say you spend $300 on a box and spill coffee in it. You buy a new one. If you had OUR box, it gets replaced, free. Same as the cable modem.. you're takes a crap, you buy another one, we will replace it free. I really don't see any cost savings here. Plus feature wise, you'll lose out.. at least as far as our VOD and such. (video on demand)
You can get movies that are only available on VHS. Or if you have a security system based on VHS recording and you actually get around to switching everything over to DVR. Or if your VHS player dies and you can not find a replacement.
That Logitech does NOT screw this one up. I've been thinking about purchasing one the these, but it absolutely has to be linux compatable. Logitech's record in the driver department has not been too steller as far as linux goes.
Earlier in the afternoon, Microsoft Senior Vice President for Research Rick Rashid spoke of a future fueled by the rise of "human-scale storage." Translation: Since nearly anyone should be able to afford terabytes of disk space by 2016--even today, one can purchase that capacity for less than $500--new possibilities arise for documenting the world around you.
Wow, someone gets a deep discount on drive space!;)
But could it have known how bad things would get? Could anyone? The review of XP that ran under this byline five years ago never even used the word "security."
That raises a scary thought: What's the ugly flaw in Windows Vista that people will be screaming about in 2010, but is escaping people's attention right now?
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When Microsoft pushed this update, it plain and outright broke a lot of our customers ability to even surf on the web. It was random for sure. I just kind of boil it down to MS just not getting it. Like releasing what I would consider a alpha release. They could ping out and get info back, etc. Just a support nightmare for a while, and yep.. we pointed them to MS support to fix their crap software, while recommending Firefox.
I can imagine what a ie8 release will bring... more headaches.
Exactly. Fear over reason. Asbestos isn't nearly so dangerous, if handled correctly, as to outweigh the benefits it provides. Yes when it was used carelessly (even if from ignorance at the time) and people were working daily in a cloud of the stuff without even a filter mask, it caused some nasty side effects.
Just tell this to the folks up in Libby, Montana. (google "asbestos libby mt") As they say, "shit happens" but when it personally effects YOU then things are a tad different.
I've also been using Linux forever, since the pre-1.0 days. As you said, as a server it is rock solid, but as a normal desktop computer it is somewhat less forgiving. On the other hand, I've been using kubuntu for the past couple years and it works well for me, and have had only a few issues with upgrading to LCD and a new nvidia card, and even that wasn't bad, since I'm familiar with xorg.conf. (a normal joe user would have gave up though) Another funny comparison is that I bought a iMac this year, what sold me was the bash prompt. ;) Works good enough that the kids now use the linux box, and I retired the old pentium 120MHz Gateway, and use the iMac for my normal dev / all around system.
Issues that I consider non-forgiving to the new Linux average computer user would be:
Watching dvd movies. (or burning)
Tv card support still sucks for auto detection.
Lack of drivers for new video cards.
Lack of games compared to the Windows world.
Now, granted we can fault lack of open specs, etc to some of these issues, but to the normal computer user they just don't care. Shit should just work.
Fine with me. I'm sick of software getting released early with bugs. I've alpha tested software that's more stable than a certain OS that's came out lately. (cough.. Vista) And a personal plug towards APC, their software blows on OS X, hell apcupsd works fine.
Just checked it out also, and it works fairly well. It didn't pick out my favorite pizza joint out of the top selections. Voice recognition was good, although I didn't try out the hooker aspect, but it picked up on "automotive repair" and "cars". Not bad for a first look.
You know, 1984 this was required reading back in the late 70's when I was in high school. Matter of fact, a lot of the things I was taught are pretty much ignored now days. (such as the holocaust) Personally, I think the British people have put WAY to much trust in their government. And before I get bashed here, I didn't vote for the current government we have in the US, and totally disagree with most of "their" policies. I don't know ANYthing about UK government politics/policies btw.
You know, I've always considered myself as a geek type. I've built all of my PC's for about 15 years. When tax time rolled around this year I made the jump and bought a 20" iMac. I just love the damn thing, for a few reasons.
It's simple to use, the UI is straight forward, it has a welcome familiar terminal, etc. Being that I've used Linux since before 1.0 came out it also has a lot of tools I'm used to. Things I don't really like about Apple are the high prices, and the mouse sucks also. (I replaced it with a Logitech right away) Apple will get some more money from me next year, when I pick up another computer for the kids. Another thing I'd like to point out to people is that you CAN dig into the OS and install QT, Xcode and a ton of other familiar tools for Linux. This feature I personally thought was a positive prior to purchase.
Any politician who thinks he's going to get votes by making a myspace account deserves whatever he gets dished. Reminds me of the clueless professor from Real Genius who thought his students like it when he would "get down, verbally" with them.
First off, you're talking out of your ass. This man was shot down in the Vietnam war and a prisoner of war at the famous / infamous "Hanoi Hilton". This man broke both arms and a leg, was tortured and survived. He ejected from his plane back in 1967 and was released in 1974 I do believe. Quite a feat in my book. He might be labeled a bad political choice, but he deserves respect.
He / She has a valid point, so mod the parent up!
I'll go one better. Cut the fucking thing off the net until the user fixes the problem.
This is exactly what we do. The rule at our company is simple. 3 strike policy, and your out. If you send out a shitload of spam, etc we suspend the account. They then call in and bitch, we explain the situation and how they can resolve it by setting up a firewall, anti-virus software, etc. Or, refer them to a local computer tech to reinstall the OS, etc. If it happens again, strike 2. We inform them that they have one more chance to get it correct, or they are history.., no service again. Unfair? Nope. Our NOC watches this crap all the time. OS of choice for this crap is always Windows btw.
The certification test is offered to CompTIA members for $180. The fee for non-members is $225.
Wow, a person can't actually setup their wireless router/access point. Big frick'in surprise. And now you should pay an additional fee to have a cert that any well mannered geek should be skilled at to begin with.
I feel that this is more of a manufacture issue, doc/instruction wise. Come on, enough is enough. IF people actually had a clue. Wireless routers suck big time from some manufactures. Belkin won't even support 8MB down on some models. Then you have issues with them losing IP address's from the cable modem, doing a power cycle on the router and all is well. Linksys seems to be good at this one. (yep, I work tech support at a broadband company) Poof!
It's taken me at least a thousand hours,' he said. The case has an aluminum interior frame to support the computer workings. The outer frame is made of oak and maple.
;)
Basically it just amounts to what people want to spend on something that goes with their lifestyle or decor. Kinda like driving a Honda vs a H1 Hummer. Give them a what for.., personal choice works. (kinda like white carpet.. why?)
In a nutshell:
TO ALL THE KIDS WHO SURVIVED THE 1930's 40's, 50's, 60's and 70's !!
First, we survived being born to mothers who smoked and/or drank while they were pregnant.
They took aspirin, ate blue cheese dressing, tuna from a can, and didn't get tested for diabetes.
Then after that trauma, we were put to sleep on our tummies in baby cribs covered with bright colored lead-based paints.
We had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, doors or cabinets and when we
rode our bikes, we had no helmets, not to mention, the risks we took hitchhiking.
As infants & children, we would ride in cars with no car seats, booster seats, seat belts or air bags.
Riding in the back of a pick up on a warm day was always a special treat.
We drank water from the garden hose and NOT from a bottle.
We shared one soft drink with four friends, from one bottle and
NO ONE actually died from this.
We ate cupcakes, white bread and real butter and drank koolade made with sugar, but we weren't overweight because,
WE WERE ALWAYS OUTSIDE PLAYING !
We would leave home in the morning and play all day, as long as we were back when the streetlights came on.
No one was able to reach us all day.
And we were O.K.
We would spend hours building our go-carts out of scraps and then ride down the hill, only to find out we forgot the brakes.
After running into the bushes a few times, we learned to solve the problem.
We did not have Playstations, Nintendo's, X-boxes, no video games at all, no 150 channels on cable, no video movies or DVD's, no surround-sound or CD's, no cell phones, no personal computers, no Internet or chat rooms.......
WE HAD FRIENDS and we went outside and found them!
We fell out of trees, got cut, broke bones and teeth
AND
there were no lawsuits from these accidents.
We ate worms and mud pies made from dirt, and the worms did not live in us forever.
We were given BB guns for our 10th birthdays, made up games with sticks and tennis balls and, although we were told it would happen, we did not put out very many eyes.
We rode bikes or walked to a friend's house and knocked on the door or rang the bell, or just walked in and talked to them!
Little League had tryouts and not everyone made the team. Those who didn't had to learn to deal with disappointment.
Imagine that!!
The idea of a parent bailing us out if we broke the law was unheard of.
They actually sided with the law!
---
About sums it up.
I happen to work for a company (not Dell) that offers a discount for purchasing a Dell system up to $1500. They'll fork the bill, and I have 2 years to pay it back out of my paycheck.
Good deal? Yes, but then again I'm not going to take advantage of this program if I have to get a system with Vista installed. XP Pro, maybe. Personally, I'd rather have a Apple option.. it's more like home if I have at least a terminal option and that familiar bash prompt.
Same old Microsoft. They can't invent crap anymore, so when a company such as VMware comes out with something that works, is innovative, MS does what they do what they always do best..., restrict the competition. I hate MS just like most /. users, but just once I'd like to see them actually create something original. (yep.. and like that will happen anytime soon)
Parent has a point. Mod up.
Bomb the blurred areas. Duh!
Really, this isn't any type of security measure at all. Humm, don't ya think they might have the data on this already? It's not like you move buildings around.
Things wont change that much, because most parents don't use that type software. Those that do, don't know how to use it, or don't feel they need to monitor their children. Typical Window's users.
As a parent, and a Linux user at home and Windows user I'd agree to a certain point. My kids want to use/see certain sites that I just don't agree with. My house, I pay the bills for internet, end of frickin story. I don't actually block sites, but I let them know which ones they should avoid.
Another thing, WTF are you grouping this as a "Typical Windows User"? Moron.
Cable companies are right now huge monstrosities, leaving no space for creativity because of their market shares. If other companies could produce boxes that could have new features, like maybe a TiVo in the box, consumers would have better options.
Now, another way to look at it from the Cable company. These "special" features that the box you buy. Why would they support these features? Would the software "at" the cable company work with features of say box, a b and c box? The software at these cable companies is specialized. I should know, I work in tech support at one. There is now way in hell that they will support a box they do not provide unless the manufacturer of said box releases the information required. Simple. The customer will get referred to the manufacturer. Another thing, say you spend $300 on a box and spill coffee in it. You buy a new one. If you had OUR box, it gets replaced, free. Same as the cable modem.. you're takes a crap, you buy another one, we will replace it free. I really don't see any cost savings here. Plus feature wise, you'll lose out.. at least as far as our VOD and such. (video on demand)
Mod the parent up. LMAO! ;)
(I guess you have to appreciate the BOFH series) And yes, I'm a former systems admin.
You can get movies that are only available on VHS. Or if you have a security system based on VHS recording and you actually get around to switching everything over to DVR. Or if your VHS player dies and you can not find a replacement.
I bid $300 and the bid was rejected. ? Got me, but something is fubar if the story is correct.
That Logitech does NOT screw this one up. I've been thinking about purchasing one the these, but it absolutely has to be linux compatable. Logitech's record in the driver department has not been too steller as far as linux goes.
Earlier in the afternoon, Microsoft Senior Vice President for Research Rick Rashid spoke of a future fueled by the rise of "human-scale storage." Translation: Since nearly anyone should be able to afford terabytes of disk space by 2016--even today, one can purchase that capacity for less than $500--new possibilities arise for documenting the world around you.
;)
Wow, someone gets a deep discount on drive space!
I particularly like this from the article:
But could it have known how bad things would get? Could anyone? The review of XP that ran under this byline five years ago never even used the word "security."
That raises a scary thought: What's the ugly flaw in Windows Vista that people will be screaming about in 2010, but is escaping people's attention right now?
A very interesting point.