Now I gotta ask you, what's the benefit to society of people surfing all day long? Nothin', that's what. Same goes for music.
It's entertainment. People watch sports as entertainment. People listen to music as entertainment. If you think entertainment has no value, well Then I suppose you're perfectly entitled to be the most boring person on Earth. most people seem something a bit more valuable in these things though. Even if it's not quantifiable.
Wow, this post sparked a long-ass debate. the big controversy here is your wording, I think:
I counsel my kids that it's usually their fault when they are the victims.
The operative word here is fault. It's never the victim's fault.
let me give you an example.
Summer camp. Conselors take your philosophy. So did all of my schoolteachers. In any case. my brother is being picked on by some kid who's roughly twice his size. By now he's learned not to go to authority figures like the counselors. They tell the bully to stop. Then they leave. Then the bully twists his arm again. Rinse and repeat. He's tried to get the kid to leave him alone himself. and he's not dumb enough to take on sasquatsch, physically, alone. so what does he do? He gets me. Going in to this I had no idea how I'd handle it. I tower over this kid by a solid factor of 2. I confront him. Call him out on what he's been doing. He admits to it, and calls my bluff, says, what am I gonna do? I won't do anything but get the conselors, and that's already been done. I twist some of the skin on his arm. Just a quick pinch. then I tell him to leave my brother alone. Final warning. 10 or 15 minutes later, one of the conselors aproach me. standard lecture, yadayada, I throw in a word or two to the effect of, "yeah, we tried that." In a couple of minutes, they're off my case. small price to pay; the kid never bothered my brother again.
That's perhaps the only time in my life I've done anything of that sort. Was it the right thing to do? Eh, it was better than anything else I could think of. I did feel bad about it, but I wasn't sure what else to do. the kid was right; we'd tried all the peaceful stuff and it hadn't worked. I acted pretty damn quickly though. the whole scenario struck a nerve; I'd been bullied myself before, tried everything I could think of, asked my parents for suggestions, tried them, same situtaions, over and over again. The one big thing the authortiy figures in my picture did wrong though; they kept trying the same shit over and over again, when it was clearly having no effect. I looked at that kid and I saw the couple of assholes who were like that to me. I would have torn the kid's head off if it were the only way my brother wouldn't have to deal with all of that for the rest of the summer.
In any case, I'm getting slightly of track. the point of this is, one has to be careful with this strategy of yours. it's not like I was a chronic victim; I was kinda a geeky kid. yeah, kids would tease me now and then, but most of the time I'd just brush it off. There were maybe two times where it realy got to me. The first, I did everything I could, and eventually what worked was the school year ending, and me not being in a class with that asshole again. The second time, the guy was not in the same physical condition I was, so I would take the same approach with him as I did with the kid above.
Let me ask you an honest question. What precisely have you done to teach your kids to stand up for themselves. Because I've been getting mixed messages my whole life - Violence is wrong, go take a time out for being beaten. When there has been no fight, just a beating. The schools and the camps have taught me that standing up for yourself gets you in worse trouble, and your method sounds exactly like yours. Now before you get started, I really am not a violent person, despite what this post shows. I've never been in a real fight, the idea of using my fists typically doesn't even occur to me. The rare times when I've done so have truly been as a last resort.
Fuck I don't even know where I'm going with this. I went in to this planning on saying something about how there's a world of difference between telling someone they are at fault, and helping them learn to prevent things, and how I hoped you didn't flat out blame your kids for some asshole picking on them. I honestly do want to know exactly what you've told your children to do. because my parents never quite c
RealNetworks will build the Windows Media support into its proprietary RealPlayer for Linux software, the company said. The support will not be in the open-source Helix Community project it launched to bring some RealNetworks technology to Linux.
The title of the article is wrong. Take out the words open source. RTFA people. (not to single you out.)
It should be noted that except for civ4 and call of duty 2, all the games on the first page are mac/win hybrids. There's no way of telling how many of those purchases were intended for use on an actual mac. The rest of your post was fine.
I feel like I should note that these days, the MBP is not exaclty the first notebook to go to for reliablity. generally speaking, yeah, Apple has a good track record, but with their current laptop line, they've been having some definite quality control issuses. my personal reccomendation would be to look elsewhere if you're planning on getting a notebook in the near future. Of course, you should look at how things have changed once you do decide to replace it.
Maybe in the macbooks, but it's certainly possible to keep them cool. My Dell XPS m1210 has a 2 ghz core duo, and while I haven't measured internal temps, it's qutie cool on my lap. Hell, it's basically the same temp as when the machine is off.
So, if some guy decides he's going to beat the crap out of you just because he can, do you walk away from that beating saying to yourself, "well, I have nothing to be upset about; he could have killed me."?
Certainly, you count your blessings, regardless of how corrupt our government is, yes, it could be much worse. But that doesn't mean you shut up and take it either. I don't think Bush is on the level of Hitler or Mussolini or Stalin, or whoever is running Cameroon - honestly I think he's just in way over his head, and can't handle the job - but I'm still not going keep my mouth shut when the level of corruption that we do have causes a blunder like Katrina or Iraq (regardless of what you thought of the idea of invading, it was poorly executed.)
granted, we may be the cause of our own demise, but that is differnet than deciding "we are unfit for this world, lets get rid of ourselves." If humanity goes extinct, it won't be because we wanted to, or thought we should.
Regardless of whether or not that's true, humanity as a whole will never accept it. If you think a species that will not put its own survival over everything else can come in to being, and last for very long, you really should have paid attention in biology class.
The will to live is just about the most important survival trait an organism can have. Humanity will never decide to die, regardless of how it affects the universe. (humans perhaps will, but that will only strengthen the adamacy of the species.)
comments like the GP's are the sort that have made me, as well as many other LD kids I'm sure, a little bit embarrassed to admit that we get accommodations. I have asperger's syndrome, which is not purely disadvantageous, it gives me great focus, incredible memory, and tends to throw in a slight boost to IQ. However, it qualifies me for extra time because it causes my clerical skills to be vastly inferior to my other mental functions. Whatever test they used to determine this had percentiles by category similar to the following:
... 99 99 98 99 14 99 98 99...
Sure, I could take classes where I could get by without accommodations, but on the occasions where I've done that, I've ended up sleeping in class, doing zero homework, never studying, showing up a minute or two late every day, and still getting straight A's. I learn nothing that way.
so instead, I take much more advanced classes, and get some extra time to take tests. The part that I suck at is filling in the bubbles on the SAT, flipping pages, etc. it adds up, and it's more or less never relevant to what's being tested.
Other people have other legitimate reasons to get extra time; dyslexia causes people to mix up letters, so being allowed time to make sure you've read something correctly is warranted, etc.
the only example I can think of where I agree that the extra time misrepresents a student's abilities is this one guy I know. he is afforded extra time because he has an uncontrollable compulsion to check things over far too many times. For any of you who think he may be faking it, he's not. he's quite bright, but he still asks unbelievable obvious questions in classes, and frequently makes an ass of himself doing so. I honestly believe he can't help himself. that said, I would imagine that the extra time likely affords him better grades than if he were required to finish in the regular amount of time, and was capable of pacing himself to do so. I'm not sure how you would remedy that, however, as it wouldn't be fair to just set him loose with his compulsion, either.
China cannot easily establish technical standards because (deservedly) no one trusts them.
...and because they're going against the rules of what defines an ISO standard. But focus on the matter at hand. Don't throw everything they've ever done wrong in their face when it isn't relavent. You cannot, for example, say that because I don't work out, I'm wrong when I say that you should. I may be a hypocrite, but that doesn't make my statement wrong. Argue against their point based on the issue at hand. Hey, I think that was the GP's point. Maybe you missed that.
Because you reply to no post in particular, and because there is variation of opinion on this topic one could argue that your predictable appeal is ad hominem as well.
Care to show me how? Before we get too thick into this, I'll throw this in, just in case you don't actually know what ad hominem means:
As true as that may be, and as much as I agree with both of you, I feel obligated to note the fallacy of the whole, "Well he did something worse!" argument. I imagine the claims are bullshit, but just because china has done worse doesn't mean intel gets a get out of jail free card.
good point, I definately oversimplified the situation, and there are a number of other posts here that point out little problems both with my answer and the question itself, which I've since read.
In any case, my point that the question isn't really all that profound I think still stands. Flawed is probably a better adjetive, the answer isn't that simple, but it's also not as difficult as it's made out to be. It can be answered if you define the question better so that we can filter out all the ambiguities like what constitutes a chicken, etc, and if we are given the data to do so.
the chicken and the egg problem has actually always gotten on my nerves, because it's held up as this unanswerable question, and I, as well as many other people I know, have long since figured out the answer. 3 seconds or so of thought from first being asked this question, once the brain is mostly developed, will give you the answer.
I imagine much of the difficulty people have answering this question is just because they are first introduced to it long before they have learned about evolution, and so the thought that something that isn't quite a chicken could give birth to something that is a chicken doesn't occur to them then, and then don't really give it a second look once they have learned what they need to know to figure it out. I'm just surprised it took this long for someone to say something loud enough for everyone who hadn't caught on to realize the truth.
Nor are you the only one missing the fact that there are plenty of other mp3 players out there that are cheaper, and in enough cases (especially when you're never going to want 30 gigs, or have no desire to watch video on a screen that small) better. the price point gap strategy works particularly well because a large chunk of people who buy apple products don't seem to realize that there are, in fact, good alternatives.
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actually, B was a modification of BCPL, not A (to my knowledge there was never a language called A.) BCPL was an enhancement of CPL.
This post got so much better when I realized you didn't come up with the acronym yourself.
That would fall under the convenience category.
Ok, you lost me at the end there:
It's entertainment. People watch sports as entertainment. People listen to music as entertainment. If you think entertainment has no value, well Then I suppose you're perfectly entitled to be the most boring person on Earth. most people seem something a bit more valuable in these things though. Even if it's not quantifiable.
...you do realize we're giving the oil companies money, not taxing them, right? They are far from "oblivion"
Wow, this post sparked a long-ass debate. the big controversy here is your wording, I think:
The operative word here is fault. It's never the victim's fault.
let me give you an example.
Summer camp. Conselors take your philosophy. So did all of my schoolteachers. In any case. my brother is being picked on by some kid who's roughly twice his size. By now he's learned not to go to authority figures like the counselors. They tell the bully to stop. Then they leave. Then the bully twists his arm again. Rinse and repeat. He's tried to get the kid to leave him alone himself. and he's not dumb enough to take on sasquatsch, physically, alone. so what does he do? He gets me. Going in to this I had no idea how I'd handle it. I tower over this kid by a solid factor of 2. I confront him. Call him out on what he's been doing. He admits to it, and calls my bluff, says, what am I gonna do? I won't do anything but get the conselors, and that's already been done. I twist some of the skin on his arm. Just a quick pinch. then I tell him to leave my brother alone. Final warning. 10 or 15 minutes later, one of the conselors aproach me. standard lecture, yadayada, I throw in a word or two to the effect of, "yeah, we tried that." In a couple of minutes, they're off my case. small price to pay; the kid never bothered my brother again.
That's perhaps the only time in my life I've done anything of that sort. Was it the right thing to do? Eh, it was better than anything else I could think of. I did feel bad about it, but I wasn't sure what else to do. the kid was right; we'd tried all the peaceful stuff and it hadn't worked. I acted pretty damn quickly though. the whole scenario struck a nerve; I'd been bullied myself before, tried everything I could think of, asked my parents for suggestions, tried them, same situtaions, over and over again. The one big thing the authortiy figures in my picture did wrong though; they kept trying the same shit over and over again, when it was clearly having no effect. I looked at that kid and I saw the couple of assholes who were like that to me. I would have torn the kid's head off if it were the only way my brother wouldn't have to deal with all of that for the rest of the summer.
In any case, I'm getting slightly of track. the point of this is, one has to be careful with this strategy of yours. it's not like I was a chronic victim; I was kinda a geeky kid. yeah, kids would tease me now and then, but most of the time I'd just brush it off. There were maybe two times where it realy got to me. The first, I did everything I could, and eventually what worked was the school year ending, and me not being in a class with that asshole again. The second time, the guy was not in the same physical condition I was, so I would take the same approach with him as I did with the kid above.
Let me ask you an honest question. What precisely have you done to teach your kids to stand up for themselves. Because I've been getting mixed messages my whole life - Violence is wrong, go take a time out for being beaten. When there has been no fight, just a beating. The schools and the camps have taught me that standing up for yourself gets you in worse trouble, and your method sounds exactly like yours. Now before you get started, I really am not a violent person, despite what this post shows. I've never been in a real fight, the idea of using my fists typically doesn't even occur to me. The rare times when I've done so have truly been as a last resort.
Fuck I don't even know where I'm going with this. I went in to this planning on saying something about how there's a world of difference between telling someone they are at fault, and helping them learn to prevent things, and how I hoped you didn't flat out blame your kids for some asshole picking on them. I honestly do want to know exactly what you've told your children to do. because my parents never quite c
More to the point, I have heard that the film and record industries use the same horrific system.
Well, from what I've heard, this is a bit more than first gen jitters, but as long as you know what you're getting yourself into :)
It should be noted that except for civ4 and call of duty 2, all the games on the first page are mac/win hybrids. There's no way of telling how many of those purchases were intended for use on an actual mac. The rest of your post was fine.
I feel like I should note that these days, the MBP is not exaclty the first notebook to go to for reliablity. generally speaking, yeah, Apple has a good track record, but with their current laptop line, they've been having some definite quality control issuses. my personal reccomendation would be to look elsewhere if you're planning on getting a notebook in the near future. Of course, you should look at how things have changed once you do decide to replace it.
Maybe in the macbooks, but it's certainly possible to keep them cool. My Dell XPS m1210 has a 2 ghz core duo, and while I haven't measured internal temps, it's qutie cool on my lap. Hell, it's basically the same temp as when the machine is off.
I seriously doubt that the parent thinks proprietary liscenses are better than than the GPL.
Mussolini was definately much worse than nixon, but to imply that that makes nixon acceptable is a logical fallacy.
(Disclaimer: I personally have no problem with the GPLv2. Still haven't decided about 3.)
So, if some guy decides he's going to beat the crap out of you just because he can, do you walk away from that beating saying to yourself, "well, I have nothing to be upset about; he could have killed me."?
Certainly, you count your blessings, regardless of how corrupt our government is, yes, it could be much worse. But that doesn't mean you shut up and take it either. I don't think Bush is on the level of Hitler or Mussolini or Stalin, or whoever is running Cameroon - honestly I think he's just in way over his head, and can't handle the job - but I'm still not going keep my mouth shut when the level of corruption that we do have causes a blunder like Katrina or Iraq (regardless of what you thought of the idea of invading, it was poorly executed.)
The text of the amendment:
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
this sheds some light on the original thought process. from wikipedia:
Antifederalists also feared creation of a standing army that could eventually endanger democracy and civil liberties as had happened recently in the American Colonies and Europe. Leading Antifederalists proposed an amendment to the Constitution to address this risk. A part of the Antifederalist belief was that if "the whole body of people are armed" they can defend against the risk of tyranny from a standing army. Counterpoint to this belief can be seen with Federalist Noah Webster who wrote that military force must be made strong enough to resist rebellion of the people but that it must also be subject to Congress which derives its source of power from the people:
in the past I've agreed with your sentiment. These days I'm less and less sure.
granted, we may be the cause of our own demise, but that is differnet than deciding "we are unfit for this world, lets get rid of ourselves." If humanity goes extinct, it won't be because we wanted to, or thought we should.
The will to live is just about the most important survival trait an organism can have. Humanity will never decide to die, regardless of how it affects the universe. (humans perhaps will, but that will only strengthen the adamacy of the species.)
comments like the GP's are the sort that have made me, as well as many other LD kids I'm sure, a little bit embarrassed to admit that we get accommodations. I have asperger's syndrome, which is not purely disadvantageous, it gives me great focus, incredible memory, and tends to throw in a slight boost to IQ. However, it qualifies me for extra time because it causes my clerical skills to be vastly inferior to my other mental functions. Whatever test they used to determine this had percentiles by category similar to the following:
Sure, I could take classes where I could get by without accommodations, but on the occasions where I've done that, I've ended up sleeping in class, doing zero homework, never studying, showing up a minute or two late every day, and still getting straight A's. I learn nothing that way.
so instead, I take much more advanced classes, and get some extra time to take tests. The part that I suck at is filling in the bubbles on the SAT, flipping pages, etc. it adds up, and it's more or less never relevant to what's being tested.
Other people have other legitimate reasons to get extra time; dyslexia causes people to mix up letters, so being allowed time to make sure you've read something correctly is warranted, etc.
the only example I can think of where I agree that the extra time misrepresents a student's abilities is this one guy I know. he is afforded extra time because he has an uncontrollable compulsion to check things over far too many times. For any of you who think he may be faking it, he's not. he's quite bright, but he still asks unbelievable obvious questions in classes, and frequently makes an ass of himself doing so. I honestly believe he can't help himself. that said, I would imagine that the extra time likely affords him better grades than if he were required to finish in the regular amount of time, and was capable of pacing himself to do so. I'm not sure how you would remedy that, however, as it wouldn't be fair to just set him loose with his compulsion, either.
I do however, agree as far as the drugs go.
Because you reply to no post in particular, and because there is variation of opinion on this topic one could argue that your predictable appeal is ad hominem as well.
Care to show me how? Before we get too thick into this, I'll throw this in, just in case you don't actually know what ad hominem means:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
He's not attacking a person, he's attacking an argument. That is precisely the opposite of ad hominem.
if this thing is hard for you to avoid doing, ask yourself, what would I think of this if "some person" said this.
As true as that may be, and as much as I agree with both of you, I feel obligated to note the fallacy of the whole, "Well he did something worse!" argument. I imagine the claims are bullshit, but just because china has done worse doesn't mean intel gets a get out of jail free card.
In any case, my point that the question isn't really all that profound I think still stands. Flawed is probably a better adjetive, the answer isn't that simple, but it's also not as difficult as it's made out to be. It can be answered if you define the question better so that we can filter out all the ambiguities like what constitutes a chicken, etc, and if we are given the data to do so.
the chicken and the egg problem has actually always gotten on my nerves, because it's held up as this unanswerable question, and I, as well as many other people I know, have long since figured out the answer. 3 seconds or so of thought from first being asked this question, once the brain is mostly developed, will give you the answer.
I imagine much of the difficulty people have answering this question is just because they are first introduced to it long before they have learned about evolution, and so the thought that something that isn't quite a chicken could give birth to something that is a chicken doesn't occur to them then, and then don't really give it a second look once they have learned what they need to know to figure it out. I'm just surprised it took this long for someone to say something loud enough for everyone who hadn't caught on to realize the truth.
I think it would be more accurate to leave out the sorry part. She also has to have known that she had VD, and that she would give it to you.
By the way, how much more does black plastic cost than white platic?
Nor are you the only one missing the fact that there are plenty of other mp3 players out there that are cheaper, and in enough cases (especially when you're never going to want 30 gigs, or have no desire to watch video on a screen that small) better. the price point gap strategy works particularly well because a large chunk of people who buy apple products don't seem to realize that there are, in fact, good alternatives.