Yeah, I think it goes down the with vfat patient (and enforcing the patent) as being overall "silly" moves on their part. Pulling out of such things causes their grip on standardization to lessen and people will start to think "whats the point to support an ms product if it doesn't get supported else where?" with recent successes from competing os' now coming into the desktop pc playing field you'd think that they'd want to keep people using native versions of their application sets and file types to entice people to go back to ms as being standard and common place.
I think this is the start of the common usage of ms specific products to become less important with such things as file formats, fs types, etc and will just open the door for new contenders in the future.
Overall a good move in the scheme of things because it means that it gives other people the chance to come up with innovative systems.
For a short period, at least, the effects of sleep inertia may be as bad as or worse than being legally drunk," said researcher Kenneth Wright of the University of Colorado.
Is this one of these scientific tests that involve lots of alcohol and plenty of sleeping?
Yeah, granted i can understand your point though about the ft/meters issue, its a bit old and dry now but I dare say most of it is humor invoked rather then critical judgment.
Flaming Linus Tovalds and his crew at their caliber isn't fair (i believe) because if you really have a look at how much work and for how long they've been working on Linux you'd understand the dedication of time/effort/skill that has been applied to it's development.
As for comparing it too whats out there as other kernels, Linux has a focus and vision as its unique because _NO OTHER_ os does quite as much as Linux in the respects of portability and compatibility.
Of course this leads to some of its downfalls and weaknesses but not even mighty Microsoft can compete with its broad nature of compatibility (granted its difficult to achieve in a fair few situations) but the fuckin thing has nearly 30 megs of source, which enables it to work with just about any piece of hardware on the market on pretty much any cpu you can possibly want, including your freaking game console, mobile phone, or ipod.
Just because someone is from "NASA" doesn't mean they are they are "better" and because someone (a few people) at "NASA" has an opinion means that it has a huge impact on the issue.
At the end of the day money walks and bullshit talks; govt or private sectors it doesn't really matter. This single principal keeps the planet spinning and thats the real physics behind most of these sorts of issues.
Mars Climate Observer mission (as well as NASA's other projects) have a lot more on the ball than Linus & crew does.
I've met a few astrophysists in my time, and one thing is certain. They know shit about linux, even ones who know how to program know shit about linux.
But because they've gone an dedicated their lives to an academic presuit and then taken up a profession in that presuit they are now experts on every form of science and technology? yes?
Unless the particular experts field is in software development and design for space travel and i'd say only a few astrophysists would be, even the ones dedicated to programming the spaceships computers or whatever i doubt would be sitting there all day going through kernel code to match its affectiveness against other os's?
The argument isnt weather linux is "good" or "bad" the argument is that linux is a portable os which a huge driver base that is supposed to work on any platform, whereas these NASA folk require very specific needs and can rely on top dallor technology to see them through. Linux which is breaking new grounds each and everyday should be commended for fact NASA has even stoped to even consider its viability. Heck, given a few more years where will this all end up?
One of the issues with this is because some usb flash devices, especially mobile phones have presets and data already on them. If they provided them unformatted it would be a huge step backwards in the industry, further to that it will mean doors fling open for another contender.
Ext2/3 would be a good choice but last time i looked getting these fs' to work under window was slow and painful (not saying its changed now).
We still have ISO format to use, plus there are dozens of other platform fs types that can be used. The fact that MS has done this has "detracted" the standard nature and board use of their fs product, in my view its an over all step back for them because its left an incomparability in the mix.
Heck, i just purchased a sony mobile phone with 256 megs of flash space on it, it was a fat1632M fs, what happens there? is sony (who hates ms) going to just bend over and pay royalties, errr no? they'll just gladly step to one side and watch as ms unstandardizes themselfs with the rest of the market.
Yeap, seems pretty much the case anywhere you go here in Oz, not sure if i've found any kickass hindu developers coming out of the woodwork though as a direct results (or any other race for that matter).
Heck Australia is founded on multiculturalism and for the most of it there are lots of multicultrual professionals especially in the health industry, but as for IT its just a huge basin for suckass developers and people are starting to realise its better to just go off and employ indian resident developers to do the job (screw getting them over here its cheaper to pay them over there).
Dood, no disrespect (not caring that i'll be rated offtopic) but I believe in allot of things and i'm not saying what you claim is false but one thing i've also learned in my own experiences its sometimes best just to keep your mouth shut and let the world go by, that way you seem to be liked a whole lot more by everyone else around you and you never have to worry about being reported to your local psychiatric facility for a brain scan to make sure your not certifiable.
Okay yeah it sounds nasty but then again, the development for the inner self should just stay with the inner self...
Okay the xbox is a nice gray little unit that is much "slimmer' then its predecessor but the only ugly attribute of the system was the big bulky power supply, so what do they do? build an encased cooling system that makes it even more bulker and uglyer....
It still amazes me that the British Empire uses the technique of honoring bravery of their Knights and Lords in todays society to honor people who now run multimillion dallor industry and come up with ideas like the iPod.
What does this mean to us? Nerds are as cool and as handsome as ye'old days knights in shinning armor....
Actually, until you bring in the hardened Linux stuff, Windows actually has *better* default security capabilities than Linux.
Yeah sorry i cant quite swallow that, its much harder to trick linux vm to get it do stuff that otherwise is much simpler to achieve in windows. Granted over the past 2 years microsoft has taken this a bit more seriously and it has improved allot but it isnt comparable to linux for alot of reasons.
Windows 2003 Server is much neater then previous versions and you switch on what you need. With Linux this is totally distro depandant, you still get the fluffy brand distros that enable everything under the sun but if you use a serious distribution say debian that you have to select the type of environment you want the box to be (workstation or server) then install the packages you only need then this isnt the case at all.
At the end of the day though you cant compare the two really in the security world, theres too many variables to consider with linux (kernel makes and versions and patchlevels) and distributions with various application sets whereas with windows is either on or off.
What support is there in Unix operating systems for running common library code with only the privileges it needs? As far as I know Linux has no simple way to run a dynamically-linked library (.so file) in its own address space or without permitting it to make system calls. So when the next exploit is found in a common Linux library - and it will be found - the situation will be just as embarassing.
They are out there for example the bluetooth exploit in linux but the thing is though that linux also has systrace and systems that can be easily put in-place to stop these issues easily. Whereas MS doesnt. Its been over 48hrs and they still can't produce a patch.
The issue isnt "it can happen to linux so we shouldnt jinx ourselves" the real issue is "ms has problems writing patches that retain backward compatability"
If it can be embedded into webpage cant it also be embedded in actual emails? Its true that loads of email apps stop images from being viewed but there are a fair few that dont.
This true but this also breads two things which are apparent these days, cybercrime is now a profitable business and the kids these days are getting smarter much younger age (contact to pcs is just so promienent).
I dont know about weather or not cybercrime has become worse or better and i'm satisfied beliving it could be directly proportional to the increase of use of the internet in 05 but one thing i do know is that we arent teaching safe programming methods to freshly trained developers and as a directly result compromising a system has stayed pretty much the same way for the last decade.
The bar in system compromise hasnt really been lifted as much as it should and getting people to develop more stricter programming practices is definitly an important issue that needs to be raised but again this all comes down to cost.
Youve raised a wonderful point which doesnt get spoken about on/. nearly enough and the intents of these people vary quite considerablly.
One thing you have to understand that being a cracker like this guy can be considered a profession. I.E pharming DNS, phishing Passwords, and virii distribution, all these things are turning into an actual industry and there is big money to be made.
Crackers never play fair and why should they, they are afterall a part of an _underground_ community.
I dont mean to promote the behaviour but there is always cause for an effect and it usually isnt dimenta.
I see lots of really unsavory criticism from allot of ppl on this particular issue (yeah i know not out of the ordinary for this place) but is seems to me that:
a) the site has been slashdotted and we really cant read anything about the app other then the artical (please don't try to prove me wrong by showing cached/mirrored versions of the site because i simply don't care); and b) no one has used it yet and given a decent review on the extension (if you have it maybe you can shed some light on it)
So i copyright and trademark a new term, its called UTFP or Use The Fscking Program.
1983: Develops Hodgkin's disease and leaves Microsoft. Makes full recovery
Ya think that when writing an artical where a portion of the audience are going to be geeks and/or programmers they wouldnt use words like "develops" to describe what happened to him, rather "contracting" a virus would sound more appropriate. It makes him sound like he wrote the Hodgkin's virus in his multi-zillion dallor basement.
Perhaps, Insted of "Makes full recovery" it should read "Was able to restore Paul Allen from tape backup"
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Yeah, I think it goes down the with vfat patient (and enforcing the patent) as being overall "silly" moves on their part. Pulling out of such things causes their grip on standardization to lessen and people will start to think "whats the point to support an ms product if it doesn't get supported else where?" with recent successes from competing os' now coming into the desktop pc playing field you'd think that they'd want to keep people using native versions of their application sets and file types to entice people to go back to ms as being standard and common place.
I think this is the start of the common usage of ms specific products to become less important with such things as file formats, fs types, etc and will just open the door for new contenders in the future.
Overall a good move in the scheme of things because it means that it gives other people the chance to come up with innovative systems.
Newer mysql supports sub queries.
For a short period, at least, the effects of sleep inertia may be as bad as or worse than being legally drunk," said researcher Kenneth Wright of the University of Colorado.
Is this one of these scientific tests that involve lots of alcohol and plenty of sleeping?
Yeah, granted i can understand your point though about the ft/meters issue, its a bit old and dry now but I dare say most of it is humor invoked rather then critical judgment.
Flaming Linus Tovalds and his crew at their caliber isn't fair (i believe) because if you really have a look at how much work and for how long they've been working on Linux you'd understand the dedication of time/effort/skill that has been applied to it's development.
As for comparing it too whats out there as other kernels, Linux has a focus and vision as its unique because _NO OTHER_ os does quite as much as Linux in the respects of portability and compatibility.
Of course this leads to some of its downfalls and weaknesses but not even mighty Microsoft can compete with its broad nature of compatibility (granted its difficult to achieve in a fair few situations) but the fuckin thing has nearly 30 megs of source, which enables it to work with just about any piece of hardware on the market on pretty much any cpu you can possibly want, including your freaking game console, mobile phone, or ipod.
Just because someone is from "NASA" doesn't mean they are they are "better" and because someone (a few people) at "NASA" has an opinion means that it has a huge impact on the issue.
At the end of the day money walks and bullshit talks; govt or private sectors it doesn't really matter. This single principal keeps the planet spinning and thats the real physics behind most of these sorts of issues.
Mars Climate Observer mission (as well as NASA's other projects) have a lot more on the ball than Linus & crew does.
I've met a few astrophysists in my time, and one thing is certain. They know shit about linux, even ones who know how to program know shit about linux.
But because they've gone an dedicated their lives to an academic presuit and then taken up a profession in that presuit they are now experts on every form of science and technology? yes?
Unless the particular experts field is in software development and design for space travel and i'd say only a few astrophysists would be, even the ones dedicated to programming the spaceships computers or whatever i doubt would be sitting there all day going through kernel code to match its affectiveness against other os's?
The argument isnt weather linux is "good" or "bad" the argument is that linux is a portable os which a huge driver base that is supposed to work on any platform, whereas these NASA folk require very specific needs and can rely on top dallor technology to see them through. Linux which is breaking new grounds each and everyday should be commended for fact NASA has even stoped to even consider its viability. Heck, given a few more years where will this all end up?
One of the issues with this is because some usb flash devices, especially mobile phones have presets and data already on them. If they provided them unformatted it would be a huge step backwards in the industry, further to that it will mean doors fling open for another contender.
Ext2/3 would be a good choice but last time i looked getting these fs' to work under window was slow and painful (not saying its changed now).
We still have ISO format to use, plus there are dozens of other platform fs types that can be used. The fact that MS has done this has "detracted" the standard nature and board use of their fs product, in my view its an over all step back for them because its left an incomparability in the mix.
Heck, i just purchased a sony mobile phone with 256 megs of flash space on it, it was a fat1632M fs, what happens there? is sony (who hates ms) going to just bend over and pay royalties, errr no? they'll just gladly step to one side and watch as ms unstandardizes themselfs with the rest of the market.
Yeap, seems pretty much the case anywhere you go here in Oz, not sure if i've found any kickass hindu developers coming out of the woodwork though as a direct results (or any other race for that matter).
Heck Australia is founded on multiculturalism and for the most of it there are lots of multicultrual professionals especially in the health industry, but as for IT its just a huge basin for suckass developers and people are starting to realise its better to just go off and employ indian resident developers to do the job (screw getting them over here its cheaper to pay them over there).
Wasnt microsoft trying to make the xbox slim and less bulkier then the xbox 1?
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So then -
a) Watercooling the processor with its own little fridge like system and
b) Having the power supply jump 2x the size (see http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/12/31
Man its going to be a pain in the ass to cart this unit over to your mates place for a weekend gaming session.
Dood, no disrespect (not caring that i'll be rated offtopic) but I believe in allot of things and i'm not saying what you claim is false but one thing i've also learned in my own experiences its sometimes best just to keep your mouth shut and let the world go by, that way you seem to be liked a whole lot more by everyone else around you and you never have to worry about being reported to your local psychiatric facility for a brain scan to make sure your not certifiable.
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Okay yeah it sounds nasty but then again, the development for the inner self should just stay with the inner self
Its now a dupe folks its a simply a follow up from the CmdrTaco's artical, they just didnt know it was a follow up until after it was written :)
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Now back on topic, this is cool and interesting, next thing we'll hear is that Tom Cruises Scientology crew is actually on to something
A scary world we live in indeed.
Okay the xbox is a nice gray little unit that is much "slimmer' then its predecessor but the only ugly attribute of the system was the big bulky power supply, so what do they do? build an encased cooling system that makes it even more bulker and uglyer ....
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Makes sense to me
see http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=172592&thresho ld=0&commentsort=0&tid=3&mode=thread&pid=14369571# 14369578
It still amazes me that the British Empire uses the technique of honoring bravery of their Knights and Lords in todays society to honor people who now run multimillion dallor industry and come up with ideas like the iPod.
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What does this mean to us? Nerds are as cool and as handsome as ye'old days knights in shinning armor
You forgot the most important one "Firefox: the wrath of microsoft" and lets not forget "Firefox: the undiscovered exploit"
Actually, until you bring in the hardened Linux stuff, Windows actually has *better* default security capabilities than Linux.
Yeah sorry i cant quite swallow that, its much harder to trick linux vm to get it do stuff that otherwise is much simpler to achieve in windows. Granted over the past 2 years microsoft has taken this a bit more seriously and it has improved allot but it isnt comparable to linux for alot of reasons.
Windows 2003 Server is much neater then previous versions and you switch on what you need. With Linux this is totally distro depandant, you still get the fluffy brand distros that enable everything under the sun but if you use a serious distribution say debian that you have to select the type of environment you want the box to be (workstation or server) then install the packages you only need then this isnt the case at all.
At the end of the day though you cant compare the two really in the security world, theres too many variables to consider with linux (kernel makes and versions and patchlevels) and distributions with various application sets whereas with windows is either on or off.
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yes i know i need to slow down cowboy!
I'm waiting for the theatrical version to hit broadway "fathom of the firefox"
What support is there in Unix operating systems for running common library code with only the privileges it needs? As far as I know Linux has no simple way to run a dynamically-linked library (.so file) in its own address space or without permitting it to make system calls. So when the next exploit is found in a common Linux library - and it will be found - the situation will be just as embarassing.
They are out there for example the bluetooth exploit in linux but the thing is though that linux also has systrace and systems that can be easily put in-place to stop these issues easily. Whereas MS doesnt. Its been over 48hrs and they still can't produce a patch.
The issue isnt "it can happen to linux so we shouldnt jinx ourselves" the real issue is "ms has problems writing patches that retain backward compatability"
If it can be embedded into webpage cant it also be embedded in actual emails? Its true that loads of email apps stop images from being viewed but there are a fair few that dont.
This true but this also breads two things which are apparent these days, cybercrime is now a profitable business and the kids these days are getting smarter much younger age (contact to pcs is just so promienent).
I dont know about weather or not cybercrime has become worse or better and i'm satisfied beliving it could be directly proportional to the increase of use of the internet in 05 but one thing i do know is that we arent teaching safe programming methods to freshly trained developers and as a directly result compromising a system has stayed pretty much the same way for the last decade.
The bar in system compromise hasnt really been lifted as much as it should and getting people to develop more stricter programming practices is definitly an important issue that needs to be raised but again this all comes down to cost.
Youve raised a wonderful point which doesnt get spoken about on /. nearly enough and the intents of these people vary quite considerablly.
One thing you have to understand that being a cracker like this guy can be considered a profession. I.E pharming DNS, phishing Passwords, and virii distribution, all these things are turning into an actual industry and there is big money to be made.
Crackers never play fair and why should they, they are afterall a part of an _underground_ community.
I dont mean to promote the behaviour but there is always cause for an effect and it usually isnt dimenta.
I see lots of really unsavory criticism from allot of ppl on this particular issue (yeah i know not out of the ordinary for this place) but is seems to me that:
a) the site has been slashdotted and we really cant read anything about the app other then the artical (please don't try to prove me wrong by showing cached/mirrored versions of the site because i simply don't care); and
b) no one has used it yet and given a decent review on the extension (if you have it maybe you can shed some light on it)
So i copyright and trademark a new term, its called UTFP or Use The Fscking Program.
Good day and Adieus.
Doesnt account for the fact the site was written in Dreamweaver and not Frontpage.
.... nasty
Badly mind you, the footer is full of 's
1983: Develops Hodgkin's disease and leaves Microsoft. Makes full recovery
Ya think that when writing an artical where a portion of the audience are going to be geeks and/or programmers they wouldnt use words like "develops" to describe what happened to him, rather "contracting" a virus would sound more appropriate. It makes him sound like he wrote the Hodgkin's virus in his multi-zillion dallor basement.
Perhaps, Insted of "Makes full recovery" it should read "Was able to restore Paul Allen from tape backup"