I probably dislike O'Reilly as much as you. But seriously dude, making a claim like this does not help your cause. Truly good debate ignores peoples' political affiliations and ideologies, and instead focuses on what they have to say.
And for the record, the political spectrum is a little more complex than a lightswitch that has settings of "liberal" and "conservative".
Wow, looks like inconveniencing the middle class is as bad an idea as I've heard. As I wrote this post, the size of the group went from about 79,500 to over 80,000. This is amazing.
Yeah, tell me about those crazy scientists. They always waste so much time and money on useless crap that's so far into the future it should be on The Jetsons, instead of right here right now. I mean, all those math nerds studying number theory never produced anything useful, right? And those physicists blabbing on about dark matter should probably be checked into a psych ward...
OK, so I'm sorry if the above sounds trollish and inflammatory. But the thing is, I always thought the whole point of science was to basically poke around outside of the current knowledge base and try and figure stuff out. Issuing an edict about "useless" science doesn't really make sense. Let me illustrate this with a bad analogy:
You are in a record store with a friend. Your friend wants to buy an album that's of some obscure genre that originated in Turkey. You ask why. She says that a friend of hers heard some of this music before, and thought it was really cool. You say this is a bad idea because she doesn't speak Turkish so she won't be able to really appreciate the music.
OK, go ahead and cut the analogy to shreds. But hopefully you understand what I'm trying to get at.
Hey guys, somebody better call up NASA and ESA real quick! They think they're going to build one of these fancy "space elevators", right? Well I'll have you know that some guy on the internet uncovered a fatal flaw in their plans. And he got modded informative! Alert your Congresscritters everyone, we don't want to be wasting time on an idea that's obviously flawed.
Um, I'm not sure exactly what you're getting at, but I also caught on to the News Corp aspect when reading the story. I suspect the real motive here is to build up a music arm of News Corp, as Murdoch currently has lots of holdings in TV, movies, books, and print media, but they don't have much of anything in the music business. If they can build up a business, there's always the chance they'll join the RIAA anyway.
I'm kind of getting sick of this. Every once in a while a story gets approved that is little more than some developer angsting away on his blog about some scene drama. It's not really "news", it's not stuff that matters much.
The irony here is that the blog post in question here is about the virtues of having leaders who can make arbitrary decisions. Apparently this doesn't apply to Slashdot.
I need to go back and play that one again. There's also Tecmo Super Bowl for the Genesis, and I don't remember if it was better. I do remember that it had more plays, though.
The "compromise" paragraph really kind of pisses me off. It asserts that "commercial" software development is somehow distinct from "open source", when this is obviously not the case. I guess the word proprietary probably wouldn't fly.
I want the FBI to be partially on a different page as the Military, as the local police.
The scary thing here is that the more centralized and "connected" these agencies become, the closer we get to tyranny. If the FBI, CIA, NSA, and local police become in effect one body, how is this different from the KGB or the SS? I think the answer here is "not much". Centralized power like that is very ripe for abuse, and if someone thinks it won't be abused, then I take it they have not been paying attention to things like NSA spying and Guantanamo.
I hope that the American Empire will dwindle in power before such things can become reality.
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And to make the circle complete, "Domain of Unknown Function" sounds a lot like the brains of people who drink Duff. Or something. But I totally agree there are a lot of them.
Infected, encryption, and copy protection are the words that I usually use. I then tell them that the point of this is to restrict what you can do with the stuff you've bought. Example:
Mom: "So what's the deal with itunes songs?"
Me: "Well, basically the songs are infected. They've been encrypted in a way that can only be read by itunes and ipod, and they do this to restrict how you can use your songs."
Ah yes, sweat, the great demarcation between "athletic" and "non-athletic" activities. I had forgotten about that one. Unfortunately, this metric will be obsolete in a few thousand years, once humans evolve beyond the need for sweat glands. What will you do then, huh?
I find it highly insulting that you claim to know my parents and my upbringing better than myself. And I'm sure my parents and extended family would not appreciate your comments, either. They all worked very hard to instill in their children the values of love and respect for all people.
Unfortunately, it appears there is still work to do in that area.
But in the end stopping/some/ piracy will result in more money in their pockets.
Really? Then why do you not reference any source that has reached this conclusion? Oh wait, that's probably because there are none. If copy protection was actually proven to significantly increase the profit on media, it would be used every single time. Unfortunately for you, no such proof exists.
Once again, you fail to understand what "open source company" means. Microsoft has incorporated BSD-licensed code into their stuff. Does this make Microsoft an open source company? Of course not. It is the same with Apple. Sure, they make use of some Free code, but the products they actually make money on are closed (or are hardware, etc).
Sure some of it is embellishment. But they aren't targeting you or I with these ads, they are targeting people who aren't accustomed to when a system needs a reboot or when/how the temp files should be flushed.
So basically what your argument boils down to is "if people don't understand something, it's OK to borderline lie to them, as long as we make an effort to give them the warm fuzzies". Sorry, but I'm not cool with that.
1. Copy/paste some features from a new release that don't change the world 2. Write snarky comments that don't put forth any real argument 3. ??? 4. Profit. Er, post.
And thanks for all the objective studies you linked to regarding memory usage of the final build of Firefox 2.0. Oh wait.
Can't we get people to try more compact cars to go with their compact bulbs?
This is the real American problem. People love their trucks and "sport" vehicles, yet most people don't really NEED huge vehicles like that. Instead of a giant SUV or van, get something like a Subaru or Pontiac Vibe. For a truck, get a small one like a Ford Ranger.
For 99% of everyday jobs, smaller vehicles are fine. The only time people really need big trucks and the like is if their job requires it.
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I probably dislike O'Reilly as much as you. But seriously dude, making a claim like this does not help your cause. Truly good debate ignores peoples' political affiliations and ideologies, and instead focuses on what they have to say.
And for the record, the political spectrum is a little more complex than a lightswitch that has settings of "liberal" and "conservative".
Wow, looks like inconveniencing the middle class is as bad an idea as I've heard. As I wrote this post, the size of the group went from about 79,500 to over 80,000. This is amazing.
really thick terrorists
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I think with these guys, they'd be thinking more about how unfair it is that they have to buy 2 seats.
Um, yeah. So, 144 virgins?
OK I'll stop.
The Republic of Ireland is an autonomous country, not part of the UK. Northern Ireland, however, is part of the UK.
Even if you do have a pee-pee, that doesn't mean you can't be a feminist.
Anyone can support ideas like "respect" and "equality".
Yeah, tell me about those crazy scientists. They always waste so much time and money on useless crap that's so far into the future it should be on The Jetsons, instead of right here right now. I mean, all those math nerds studying number theory never produced anything useful, right? And those physicists blabbing on about dark matter should probably be checked into a psych ward...
OK, so I'm sorry if the above sounds trollish and inflammatory. But the thing is, I always thought the whole point of science was to basically poke around outside of the current knowledge base and try and figure stuff out. Issuing an edict about "useless" science doesn't really make sense. Let me illustrate this with a bad analogy:
You are in a record store with a friend. Your friend wants to buy an album that's of some obscure genre that originated in Turkey. You ask why. She says that a friend of hers heard some of this music before, and thought it was really cool. You say this is a bad idea because she doesn't speak Turkish so she won't be able to really appreciate the music.
OK, go ahead and cut the analogy to shreds. But hopefully you understand what I'm trying to get at.
Hey guys, somebody better call up NASA and ESA real quick! They think they're going to build one of these fancy "space elevators", right? Well I'll have you know that some guy on the internet uncovered a fatal flaw in their plans. And he got modded informative! Alert your Congresscritters everyone, we don't want to be wasting time on an idea that's obviously flawed.
Um, I'm not sure exactly what you're getting at, but I also caught on to the News Corp aspect when reading the story. I suspect the real motive here is to build up a music arm of News Corp, as Murdoch currently has lots of holdings in TV, movies, books, and print media, but they don't have much of anything in the music business. If they can build up a business, there's always the chance they'll join the RIAA anyway.
I'm kind of getting sick of this. Every once in a while a story gets approved that is little more than some developer angsting away on his blog about some scene drama. It's not really "news", it's not stuff that matters much.
The irony here is that the blog post in question here is about the virtues of having leaders who can make arbitrary decisions. Apparently this doesn't apply to Slashdot.
Consider the following two phrases:
"open source company"
"company that does some stuff with open source"
You defined the latter.
My mom doesn't have an ipod, you insensitive clod!
I need to go back and play that one again. There's also Tecmo Super Bowl for the Genesis, and I don't remember if it was better. I do remember that it had more plays, though.
The "compromise" paragraph really kind of pisses me off. It asserts that "commercial" software development is somehow distinct from "open source", when this is obviously not the case. I guess the word proprietary probably wouldn't fly.
Sounds like a good analogy. They both suck, and they both have rabid fanbases that will eat up sequel after sequel.
OK, so I'm bitter. Sue me.
The scary thing here is that the more centralized and "connected" these agencies become, the closer we get to tyranny. If the FBI, CIA, NSA, and local police become in effect one body, how is this different from the KGB or the SS? I think the answer here is "not much". Centralized power like that is very ripe for abuse, and if someone thinks it won't be abused, then I take it they have not been paying attention to things like NSA spying and Guantanamo.
I hope that the American Empire will dwindle in power before such things can become reality.
And to make the circle complete, "Domain of Unknown Function" sounds a lot like the brains of people who drink Duff. Or something. But I totally agree there are a lot of them.
Infected, encryption, and copy protection are the words that I usually use. I then tell them that the point of this is to restrict what you can do with the stuff you've bought. Example:
Mom: "So what's the deal with itunes songs?"
Me: "Well, basically the songs are infected. They've been encrypted in a way that can only be read by itunes and ipod, and they do this to restrict how you can use your songs."
Ah yes, sweat, the great demarcation between "athletic" and "non-athletic" activities. I had forgotten about that one. Unfortunately, this metric will be obsolete in a few thousand years, once humans evolve beyond the need for sweat glands. What will you do then, huh?
I find it highly insulting that you claim to know my parents and my upbringing better than myself. And I'm sure my parents and extended family would not appreciate your comments, either. They all worked very hard to instill in their children the values of love and respect for all people.
Unfortunately, it appears there is still work to do in that area.
But in the end stopping /some/ piracy will result in more money in their pockets.
Really? Then why do you not reference any source that has reached this conclusion? Oh wait, that's probably because there are none. If copy protection was actually proven to significantly increase the profit on media, it would be used every single time. Unfortunately for you, no such proof exists.
Once again, you fail to understand what "open source company" means. Microsoft has incorporated BSD-licensed code into their stuff. Does this make Microsoft an open source company? Of course not. It is the same with Apple. Sure, they make use of some Free code, but the products they actually make money on are closed (or are hardware, etc).
Sure some of it is embellishment. But they aren't targeting you or I with these ads, they are targeting people who aren't accustomed to when a system needs a reboot or when/how the temp files should be flushed.
So basically what your argument boils down to is "if people don't understand something, it's OK to borderline lie to them, as long as we make an effort to give them the warm fuzzies". Sorry, but I'm not cool with that.
1. Copy/paste some features from a new release that don't change the world
2. Write snarky comments that don't put forth any real argument
3. ???
4. Profit. Er, post.
And thanks for all the objective studies you linked to regarding memory usage of the final build of Firefox 2.0. Oh wait.
Dammit Phantasy Star Universe, where are you?!?
Um, Japan?
Can't we get people to try more compact cars to go with their compact bulbs?
This is the real American problem. People love their trucks and "sport" vehicles, yet most people don't really NEED huge vehicles like that. Instead of a giant SUV or van, get something like a Subaru or Pontiac Vibe. For a truck, get a small one like a Ford Ranger.
For 99% of everyday jobs, smaller vehicles are fine. The only time people really need big trucks and the like is if their job requires it.