To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;
So how does granting exclusive rights to dead people help promote science and useful arts? Do all of the scientists and artists have a secret contract with the government saying that they'll stop work immediately if their corpses don't get to own the works? I'm willing to concede a small period after death, just so the poor bastard's kids don't get stuck with three million copies of dead daddy's books that were just printed because daddy keeled over at the release party, but anything more than a few years is ridiculous, and the current rules, particularly after the Sonny Bono farce, are approaching the stupidity of Egyptian pharaohs having their servants and pets murderered and buried with them, along with all of their possessions.
"Fsck knows what's in those vitamin supplements..."
I'd venture that just about anyone who is literate can know what's in them, since it says right on the label. Hell, with a vitamin supplement, you know exactly how much of what in in each pill, unlike most products which just give you a general list of ingredients and touch on the highlights of the particulars.
I have to second the recommend for a Samsung. I have an ML-1210 that has been a rock solid performer, and was trivial to set up in Linux (Debian even, though only Redhat is mentioned by name in the docs). They make it very obvious that the cartridge included is strictly a starter rated at only 1,000 pages, and coincidentally I have just started to get blank lines indicating that the toner is running low, so I ran a demo page to get the page count: 1,243. And I don't even use the Toner Save feature. For laser printing with such great performance, my ML-1210 was a fucking steal at only $180. Highly recommended.
It is funny how people conveniently forget that there are morons abound in all walks of life, so some of them are likely to use drugs as well as be morons. I think its just that whole stupid blame game crap, like the hunt for someone to poiont the finger at after the Columbine shootings. Some folks just can't accept that natural born dumbasses walk among us.
That's the whole point of demographics. They take a shotgun approach to grabbing eyeballs based on the primary concerns of their key demo for that slot. If Oprah is on, they are busting out the ads for personal products for women. When Law & Order is on, the nicer toys, like cars, get advertised because NBC found that their audience for Law & Order is primarily made up of steady income adults.
Yeah, a particular ad isn't going to interest everyone like you said, but each ad is going to hit a hell of a lot of people simply because more people who would appreciate that product or service are (statistically/theoretically) watching. Unfortunately, given the huge variety of people within those demographics, most of the commercials will always suck to the majority of us.:) But its like spam; what they miss in targeting, they make up for in quantity.
I imagine that targeted advertising will soon be available so that customers can choose to receive targeted advertising in exchange for a discount on their service, arranged between the content providers and the cable/satallite/whatever transmitters. While many people quail over giving out personal information to a company, many others will jump all over it, because, believe it or not, many people simply aren't worried about a company having that information if they get compensation. Not to mention that the ads will be much easier to deal with, since most would be relevant to the watcher.
If only the neighbors would quit bitching about about all of the rockets and railgun slugs I keep lobbing through their living room windows.... Oh wait, that's right. I don't do that because ITS NOT A FUCKING VIDEO GAME, YOU DOLT. Its NOT FUN, it fucking sucks out there for many of us, which is why we immerse ourselves in video games, or TV shows, or books, or sitting around rubbing the cat with steel wool while shooting heroin into our eye sockets.
Reality fucking sucks due to the horrendous consequences or shitty physical limitations that prevent us from doing what we would like to do just for the hell of it, such as having a massive firefight up and down the local shopping mall, doing 120MPH in a Ferrari through an airport terminal, or busting out a badass fireball the size of a bus and lobbing it at a really pissed off dragon hovering over Times Square. If you can't accept that's just how it is for many of us then that is just too damned bad, but the whole self righteous "ooh, wow, reality man" kick has just gotten fucking old and stale. The rest of us who aren't walking about shitting happy little rainbows because we saw yet another stupid fucking tree in person will continue to try and find amusing distractions to give us brief moments of grim satisfaction.
Now why don't you wander along outside and go meet with those wonderful people that you're so enamoured with. You're gonna be pissed when you find out that a lot of them are just as bad as I am, and some are even worse. I'll stick to looking into imaginary worlds where the knife between my ribs only means that I have to respawn and start over rather than meaning that my wife and daughter get to start picking out clothes and flowers for the funeral. Your huge RPG can kiss my tired ass.
Moreover, why thaw them out at all? Seems as though it would be simpler and more efficient to find a method of interfacing the human brain with a computer and artificially stimulating the sensory structures to provide the corpsicle with any reality that you'd choose, ala The Matrix. You then need only figure out how to maintain a human brain through external means, which probably isn't that difficult once you've got the tech to do it, given that we already have inventions like the heart-lung machine to provide oxygen to the brain. They then take up less space and far fewer resources.
With an artificial reality and conciousness, a person can perform services that do not require physical labor, computer programming as an example, and enjoy any lifestyle that they wished. The cryo company can simply include that requirement as part of the contract with the patient and outsource the labor to make money. On a large enough scale, this will simply be the norm and death will only be threat to a fleeting few who suffer from catastrophic damage quickly, or who are unfortunate enough to be plugged into the NT server. *rimshot*
Seriously, I don't see why this would not be feasible, particularly once our technology progresses far enough to make all of these issues trivial. And it likely will over the next couple hundred years, given our current incredible rate of advance and the avoidance of any worldwide catastrophe. And as for our mortality being our driving force, I rather think that its the desire for something to do. Specifically, human beings either get really fucking bored or want to do something that they can brag to others about. The mortality actually inhibits many of us by causing us to disregard long-term objectives for the sake of short-term gain.
And on a more personal note, fuck the species, I want to live. I'm not going to be experiencing the first manned landing in another star system through your great-great-great-great-great-grandchild's eyes, so I have to do what I can to stick around and see it for myself, even if its only in a simulated environment modelled after the real world.
Then discovering anti-gravity? The discovery of usable anti-gravity would make even those huge Powerball winnings seem trivial. We're talking a discovery on the order of electricity or fire. It would completely revolutionize the world. Yeah, they might be pissing away their money on a futile effort, but the potential return is just far too important not to look into.
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Voices in Your Head
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Good job. Time to hit these pushy pricks where it hurts: in the bottom line. But the clerk was just doing her job, waaah. I don't give a shit. I didn't force these two-legged mules to get these particular jobs, nor did anyone else. There are plenty of jobs that even the dumbest individual can get that don't require one to hassle the shit out of people who have successfully mastered the ability to think for themselves. Fuck pushy register jockeys, telemarketers, spammers, dorr-to-door salesmen and all of the other jackoffs who think that I am incapable of determining what I want in life and so bug the shit out of me in order to let me know every fucking day.
Having worked in customer service for years before going to school, I've becoming one of the most patient and mellow customers in the world, but I have two strict limits: within the confines of my home and after I've said "no thanks". From that point, if you persist in bothering me, we're going to find out how quickly I can break you, because I have quite clearly indicated my disinterest yet you have chosen to persist, indicating that you clearly don't give a shit about how I feel, so I'm happy to reciprocate at that point.
And if these marketing scumbags starts beaming sounds into my ears, they'll have found a third limit, and I'm going to start delivering my size 12s into some transmitters. Damned if I'm going to deal with having advertising forced on me so that I can't turn it off or ignore it.
I don't know the technical particulars to the drive, but I'd guess that they'd have to make a way for all static data to be stored on the read-only head and have only dynamic data on the read-write head. Of course, they'd have to make both accessible to the web server in order to receive info from users, but it would help reduce the amount of damage that skript kiddies could do by ensuring that the entire site can't be taken out. Of course, regular backups and a decent admin provide the same level of security for a site. So this only really looks good for reducing the size of backups and for static websites that are only updated by the server admins.
But then, of course, I'm no expert with these drives and there may be other factors which I am overlooking.
Exactly. I'm beginning to think that the only reason that politicians, lawyers, and business executives wear those uncomfortable suits is to provide safeguards against their spontaneously flinging feces as one another.
Re:What are these people's problems?
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Most of his writing is actually pretty damn tame. I think most of the confusion on the curiosity of this aspect of his writing comes from those who didn't read Firefly; specifically, who didn't read the very lengthy, extraordinarily graphic scene involving a five year old girl who talks this dude into fucking her after he explains to her why her brother has been trying to insert objects into her ass or some damned thing, and after similar repeated encounters, although none described in the excruciating detail of their first sexual session, he is arrested and depicted in a very sympathetic manner even as he is sent to prison.
I am a very open minded person when it comes to sex; if people want piss all over each other before laying into one another with clubs, I don't care. But this scene in all of its detail is definitely one that I wish I could remove from long term memory if it were possible. While I certainly don't argue with Piers' right to think about sex with a five year old girl in such incredible detail and then put those thoughts on paper, I would definitely be reluctant to takes my eyes off of him while my daughter was around.
They paid more to get less. Simple economics escaped them, I'd not count on them getting simple language down either. But at least they now have computers that look like high school modern art projects gone horribly awry without all of those challenging buttons to trip them up on their mice.
Go ahead and toss me a "Troll" mod. This whole fucking thread was a troll, so the only point posting in it would be to share in the trolling since it was so transparent. Especially to those of us who have worked in the tech support trenches with users of both Macintosh and IBM compatible computers and have felt that unique sinking feeling when a haughty person calls up and five minutes into the call after several attempts to get basic info about the problem from them, they finally mention that they use a Mac as if you should have known right from the start.
Nothing like realizing that you're about to spend two hours teaching and reteaching basic computer concepts to someone who is going to continously claim that they know what they are doing and that their Mac is simply divine, even as they manage to somehow completely delete the Chooser in their quest to find that pesky icon labelled Hard Drive, with a couple dozen reboots for random bomb icons popping up along the way. They could have at least designed those damned errors so that they would always contain information regarding the issue before the computer freezes up. Fun stuff seeing a Mac lock up so hard that it didn't even have time to finish rendering the Reboot button, at least for the first couple times in one day, then its just irritating.
Its only $200, so compared to the price of most automatic weapons, silenced weapons, or other National Firearms Act (NFA) weapons, its really not that bad. The hard part might be getting your local sheriff to authorize your NFA permit, though, if he/she is a tightass about that sort of thing. Luckily, here in Orange County, we have Sheriff Kevin Beary, a diehard fan of 2nd Amendment rights, so I wouldn't rule out getting approval on a bazooka around here.:) In fact, a friend of mine has three full auto AK-47 assault rifles and a silencer for one of his 9mm pistols that are all legally owned, so its not really a big deal in many areas.
"Then again, you're an AC, so who the hell cares what you think?"
This from someone who identifies themself solely as "foobar104". All I see is one person who didn't want to bother making up fake registration info being insulted by an asshole who did want to. Shit, the only reason I bothered was so that I could track my own posts, otherwise I wouldn't have either. But since I'm still using a name just as fake as "Anonymous Coward" or "foobar104", I guess nobody should care what I have to say about different issues, either, so this won't make any difference to you.
Its worked for the war on drugs for over 70 years, may as well apply to video games as well. Interestingly, both relate to activities that old white guys don't like to admit to doing and also complain that they serve no purpose and rot the brain and so want to force everyone else to abide by their standards. With the way things relate in goofy ways, like the soda/pop/coke study with the 2000 election, I sometimes think that psychohistory is only one weird research project away.:)
Certainly does give the impression that the US isn't able to stand on its own merits in the eyes of its citizens, doesn't it? I've always found it disturbing that we need to teach our citizens how to appreciate their nation instead of just teaching them about it and letting them realize that its pretty cool. Whatever; I just remember hating having to stand up and play the little puppet in school, and resenting the US a little for it. The "under god" part did always stick in my craw, as well, like I was a substandard citizen for not believing it when I said it.
I was just thinking about the limits of sound cards the other day. What features are still in demand from them, considering they can play damn near any sound that we can possibly hear already, and do it directionally? Seems to me that there's really not much more to squeeze out of them, other than maybe making them faster for more advanced applications and cramming them full of memory so any of them can be used professionally. More speaker jacks might be nice, so you can have some really surround sound.
An online game where the lag isn't noticable. Well, maybe something like:
"Dude, I got my ping down to 45 and now those scene changes just fly!"
Honest question, no sarcasm. What was the friggin appeal? I tried "playing" Myst and damn near threw the CD out of my house after 20 minutes it was so damned boring. I kept kicking the cd-rom drive thinking that the disc was just sticking before I finally realized that they had intended for the game to be that bloody slow.
To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;
So how does granting exclusive rights to dead people help promote science and useful arts? Do all of the scientists and artists have a secret contract with the government saying that they'll stop work immediately if their corpses don't get to own the works? I'm willing to concede a small period after death, just so the poor bastard's kids don't get stuck with three million copies of dead daddy's books that were just printed because daddy keeled over at the release party, but anything more than a few years is ridiculous, and the current rules, particularly after the Sonny Bono farce, are approaching the stupidity of Egyptian pharaohs having their servants and pets murderered and buried with them, along with all of their possessions.
Birdshit off the windows, woohoo. Now where in the hell is my self cleaning bong?!?
"Fsck knows what's in those vitamin supplements..."
I'd venture that just about anyone who is literate can know what's in them, since it says right on the label. Hell, with a vitamin supplement, you know exactly how much of what in in each pill, unlike most products which just give you a general list of ingredients and touch on the highlights of the particulars.
Nah, don't bother. It gets boring always seeing "Excellent" on your profile page. I'm holding out for the upgrade to "Sweeeeet".
I have to second the recommend for a Samsung. I have an ML-1210 that has been a rock solid performer, and was trivial to set up in Linux (Debian even, though only Redhat is mentioned by name in the docs). They make it very obvious that the cartridge included is strictly a starter rated at only 1,000 pages, and coincidentally I have just started to get blank lines indicating that the toner is running low, so I ran a demo page to get the page count: 1,243. And I don't even use the Toner Save feature. For laser printing with such great performance, my ML-1210 was a fucking steal at only $180. Highly recommended.
It is funny how people conveniently forget that there are morons abound in all walks of life, so some of them are likely to use drugs as well as be morons. I think its just that whole stupid blame game crap, like the hunt for someone to poiont the finger at after the Columbine shootings. Some folks just can't accept that natural born dumbasses walk among us.
That's the whole point of demographics. They take a shotgun approach to grabbing eyeballs based on the primary concerns of their key demo for that slot. If Oprah is on, they are busting out the ads for personal products for women. When Law & Order is on, the nicer toys, like cars, get advertised because NBC found that their audience for Law & Order is primarily made up of steady income adults.
:) But its like spam; what they miss in targeting, they make up for in quantity.
Yeah, a particular ad isn't going to interest everyone like you said, but each ad is going to hit a hell of a lot of people simply because more people who would appreciate that product or service are (statistically/theoretically) watching. Unfortunately, given the huge variety of people within those demographics, most of the commercials will always suck to the majority of us.
I imagine that targeted advertising will soon be available so that customers can choose to receive targeted advertising in exchange for a discount on their service, arranged between the content providers and the cable/satallite/whatever transmitters. While many people quail over giving out personal information to a company, many others will jump all over it, because, believe it or not, many people simply aren't worried about a company having that information if they get compensation. Not to mention that the ads will be much easier to deal with, since most would be relevant to the watcher.
If only the neighbors would quit bitching about about all of the rockets and railgun slugs I keep lobbing through their living room windows.... Oh wait, that's right. I don't do that because ITS NOT A FUCKING VIDEO GAME, YOU DOLT. Its NOT FUN, it fucking sucks out there for many of us, which is why we immerse ourselves in video games, or TV shows, or books, or sitting around rubbing the cat with steel wool while shooting heroin into our eye sockets.
Reality fucking sucks due to the horrendous consequences or shitty physical limitations that prevent us from doing what we would like to do just for the hell of it, such as having a massive firefight up and down the local shopping mall, doing 120MPH in a Ferrari through an airport terminal, or busting out a badass fireball the size of a bus and lobbing it at a really pissed off dragon hovering over Times Square. If you can't accept that's just how it is for many of us then that is just too damned bad, but the whole self righteous "ooh, wow, reality man" kick has just gotten fucking old and stale. The rest of us who aren't walking about shitting happy little rainbows because we saw yet another stupid fucking tree in person will continue to try and find amusing distractions to give us brief moments of grim satisfaction.
Now why don't you wander along outside and go meet with those wonderful people that you're so enamoured with. You're gonna be pissed when you find out that a lot of them are just as bad as I am, and some are even worse. I'll stick to looking into imaginary worlds where the knife between my ribs only means that I have to respawn and start over rather than meaning that my wife and daughter get to start picking out clothes and flowers for the funeral. Your huge RPG can kiss my tired ass.
Moreover, why thaw them out at all? Seems as though it would be simpler and more efficient to find a method of interfacing the human brain with a computer and artificially stimulating the sensory structures to provide the corpsicle with any reality that you'd choose, ala The Matrix. You then need only figure out how to maintain a human brain through external means, which probably isn't that difficult once you've got the tech to do it, given that we already have inventions like the heart-lung machine to provide oxygen to the brain. They then take up less space and far fewer resources.
With an artificial reality and conciousness, a person can perform services that do not require physical labor, computer programming as an example, and enjoy any lifestyle that they wished. The cryo company can simply include that requirement as part of the contract with the patient and outsource the labor to make money. On a large enough scale, this will simply be the norm and death will only be threat to a fleeting few who suffer from catastrophic damage quickly, or who are unfortunate enough to be plugged into the NT server. *rimshot*
Seriously, I don't see why this would not be feasible, particularly once our technology progresses far enough to make all of these issues trivial. And it likely will over the next couple hundred years, given our current incredible rate of advance and the avoidance of any worldwide catastrophe. And as for our mortality being our driving force, I rather think that its the desire for something to do. Specifically, human beings either get really fucking bored or want to do something that they can brag to others about. The mortality actually inhibits many of us by causing us to disregard long-term objectives for the sake of short-term gain.
And on a more personal note, fuck the species, I want to live. I'm not going to be experiencing the first manned landing in another star system through your great-great-great-great-great-grandchild's eyes, so I have to do what I can to stick around and see it for myself, even if its only in a simulated environment modelled after the real world.
To corporate middle management, with the rest of them? ;)
Then discovering anti-gravity? The discovery of usable anti-gravity would make even those huge Powerball winnings seem trivial. We're talking a discovery on the order of electricity or fire. It would completely revolutionize the world. Yeah, they might be pissing away their money on a futile effort, but the potential return is just far too important not to look into.
Good job. Time to hit these pushy pricks where it hurts: in the bottom line. But the clerk was just doing her job, waaah. I don't give a shit. I didn't force these two-legged mules to get these particular jobs, nor did anyone else. There are plenty of jobs that even the dumbest individual can get that don't require one to hassle the shit out of people who have successfully mastered the ability to think for themselves. Fuck pushy register jockeys, telemarketers, spammers, dorr-to-door salesmen and all of the other jackoffs who think that I am incapable of determining what I want in life and so bug the shit out of me in order to let me know every fucking day.
Having worked in customer service for years before going to school, I've becoming one of the most patient and mellow customers in the world, but I have two strict limits: within the confines of my home and after I've said "no thanks". From that point, if you persist in bothering me, we're going to find out how quickly I can break you, because I have quite clearly indicated my disinterest yet you have chosen to persist, indicating that you clearly don't give a shit about how I feel, so I'm happy to reciprocate at that point.
And if these marketing scumbags starts beaming sounds into my ears, they'll have found a third limit, and I'm going to start delivering my size 12s into some transmitters. Damned if I'm going to deal with having advertising forced on me so that I can't turn it off or ignore it.
Look, we don't have any time for solutions that work. Just write your letter and shut the fuck up.
I don't know the technical particulars to the drive, but I'd guess that they'd have to make a way for all static data to be stored on the read-only head and have only dynamic data on the read-write head. Of course, they'd have to make both accessible to the web server in order to receive info from users, but it would help reduce the amount of damage that skript kiddies could do by ensuring that the entire site can't be taken out. Of course, regular backups and a decent admin provide the same level of security for a site. So this only really looks good for reducing the size of backups and for static websites that are only updated by the server admins.
But then, of course, I'm no expert with these drives and there may be other factors which I am overlooking.
But I bet the parser to read the log files being generated by the gigabyte are much prettier. :)
Exactly. I'm beginning to think that the only reason that politicians, lawyers, and business executives wear those uncomfortable suits is to provide safeguards against their spontaneously flinging feces as one another.
Most of his writing is actually pretty damn tame. I think most of the confusion on the curiosity of this aspect of his writing comes from those who didn't read Firefly; specifically, who didn't read the very lengthy, extraordinarily graphic scene involving a five year old girl who talks this dude into fucking her after he explains to her why her brother has been trying to insert objects into her ass or some damned thing, and after similar repeated encounters, although none described in the excruciating detail of their first sexual session, he is arrested and depicted in a very sympathetic manner even as he is sent to prison.
I am a very open minded person when it comes to sex; if people want piss all over each other before laying into one another with clubs, I don't care. But this scene in all of its detail is definitely one that I wish I could remove from long term memory if it were possible. While I certainly don't argue with Piers' right to think about sex with a five year old girl in such incredible detail and then put those thoughts on paper, I would definitely be reluctant to takes my eyes off of him while my daughter was around.
They paid more to get less. Simple economics escaped them, I'd not count on them getting simple language down either. But at least they now have computers that look like high school modern art projects gone horribly awry without all of those challenging buttons to trip them up on their mice.
Go ahead and toss me a "Troll" mod. This whole fucking thread was a troll, so the only point posting in it would be to share in the trolling since it was so transparent. Especially to those of us who have worked in the tech support trenches with users of both Macintosh and IBM compatible computers and have felt that unique sinking feeling when a haughty person calls up and five minutes into the call after several attempts to get basic info about the problem from them, they finally mention that they use a Mac as if you should have known right from the start.
Nothing like realizing that you're about to spend two hours teaching and reteaching basic computer concepts to someone who is going to continously claim that they know what they are doing and that their Mac is simply divine, even as they manage to somehow completely delete the Chooser in their quest to find that pesky icon labelled Hard Drive, with a couple dozen reboots for random bomb icons popping up along the way. They could have at least designed those damned errors so that they would always contain information regarding the issue before the computer freezes up. Fun stuff seeing a Mac lock up so hard that it didn't even have time to finish rendering the Reboot button, at least for the first couple times in one day, then its just irritating.
Its only $200, so compared to the price of most automatic weapons, silenced weapons, or other National Firearms Act (NFA) weapons, its really not that bad. The hard part might be getting your local sheriff to authorize your NFA permit, though, if he/she is a tightass about that sort of thing. Luckily, here in Orange County, we have Sheriff Kevin Beary, a diehard fan of 2nd Amendment rights, so I wouldn't rule out getting approval on a bazooka around here. :) In fact, a friend of mine has three full auto AK-47 assault rifles and a silencer for one of his 9mm pistols that are all legally owned, so its not really a big deal in many areas.
"Then again, you're an AC, so who the hell cares what you think?"
This from someone who identifies themself solely as "foobar104". All I see is one person who didn't want to bother making up fake registration info being insulted by an asshole who did want to. Shit, the only reason I bothered was so that I could track my own posts, otherwise I wouldn't have either. But since I'm still using a name just as fake as "Anonymous Coward" or "foobar104", I guess nobody should care what I have to say about different issues, either, so this won't make any difference to you.
The latest study is The Truth for Today.
:)
Its worked for the war on drugs for over 70 years, may as well apply to video games as well. Interestingly, both relate to activities that old white guys don't like to admit to doing and also complain that they serve no purpose and rot the brain and so want to force everyone else to abide by their standards. With the way things relate in goofy ways, like the soda/pop/coke study with the 2000 election, I sometimes think that psychohistory is only one weird research project away.
Certainly does give the impression that the US isn't able to stand on its own merits in the eyes of its citizens, doesn't it? I've always found it disturbing that we need to teach our citizens how to appreciate their nation instead of just teaching them about it and letting them realize that its pretty cool. Whatever; I just remember hating having to stand up and play the little puppet in school, and resenting the US a little for it. The "under god" part did always stick in my craw, as well, like I was a substandard citizen for not believing it when I said it.
We're supposed to be smart, not bright. ;) I guess all code and no play makes Slashy a slow boy.
I was just thinking about the limits of sound cards the other day. What features are still in demand from them, considering they can play damn near any sound that we can possibly hear already, and do it directionally? Seems to me that there's really not much more to squeeze out of them, other than maybe making them faster for more advanced applications and cramming them full of memory so any of them can be used professionally. More speaker jacks might be nice, so you can have some really surround sound.
An online game where the lag isn't noticable. Well, maybe something like:
"Dude, I got my ping down to 45 and now those scene changes just fly!"
Honest question, no sarcasm. What was the friggin appeal? I tried "playing" Myst and damn near threw the CD out of my house after 20 minutes it was so damned boring. I kept kicking the cd-rom drive thinking that the disc was just sticking before I finally realized that they had intended for the game to be that bloody slow.