This story seemed familiar...because it is from Aug 22, 2006.
It is also somewhat obvious for the technically minded Slashdot user.
mainly though, it is a REPEAT.http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/08 /22/1526248?
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Please consider celebrating in the traditional fashion by eating a MORNINGSTAR HOT DOG.
To review the relevent commandments:
III - A Discordian is Required during his early Illumination to Go Off Alone & Partake Joyously of a Hot Dog on a Friday; this Devotive Ceremony to Remonstrate against the popular Paganisms of the Day: of Catholic Christendom (no meat on Friday), of Judaism (no meat of Pork), of Hindic Peoples (no meat of Beef), of Buddhists (no meat of animal), and of Discordians (no Hot Dog Buns).
IV - A Discordian shall Partake of No Hot Dog Buns, for Such was the Solace of Our Goddess when She was Confronted with The Original Snub.
I find that a Morningstar Farms dog goes great, and for Friday's celebration one should really be performing a devotion againt "popular" paganism-- even your own!.
GP: Maybe you are just crazy.
M2: Indeed! But do not reject these teaching as false because I am crazy. The reason that I am crazy is because they are true.
GP: Is Eris true?
M2: Everything is true.
GP: Even false things?
M2: Even false things are true.
GP: How can that be?
M2: I don't know man, I didn't do it.
GP: Why do you deal with so many negatives?
M2: To dissolve them.
GP: Will you develop that point?
M2: No.
*fnord*
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You don't have to grow your own produce, just as most programmers don't solder their own motherboards or develop their own RAM chips.
But even if the syntax becomes easier, the LOGIC is still needed, or you will end up with illogical programs that do even LESS of what you want, or crash (more than usual).
Using the metaphor of food, even if you don't grow your own food you need to understand the difference between the vegetable and the stem, the difference between the part you throw away and the part you eat. Unless you are forever going to pay "food programmers" to give you pre-made items that suit someone else's tastes, then you need to learn a little of the "magic" required to program simple meals. You may use a cookbook, but nowadays many packages of pre-made food must tell the user to remove from box before placing in the oven! If you told an "uneducated" homemaker from 100 years ago that it was unreasonable to understand these things without a "food programming" degree, they would laugh at the fools the future is producing-- because "standard" teaching from their family and community would include such knowledge.
If you were to find someone with an early car 50-60 years ago, chances are they would know how to change a tire, and probably even how to patch the tube on the side of the road (despite the fact that only those with money would have had a car at that point-- self-reliance was still important).
Now my VWs are pretty simple cars. I had someone point out that my fan belt was worn and wouldn't make it home. I agreed, and started opening my hood and getting a wrench and belt out. My friend asked in amazement what I was doing, and I said I was going to change it. Five minutes later, a new belt was on (one of the easiest jobs in an old VW granted), and everything was fine. Now I was at a house, and I have AAA, but they would have taken 5 minutes to get the directions to there even! (and more like 1 hour to arrive anytime I've ever called). I may call AAA for a flat tire out of laziness, or broken axle certainly, but laziness says it is more convenient for me to change something small like a fan belt versus the hassle of staying ignorant and relying on a slow repair truck.
In my view, the cost of ignorance is greater than the cost of learning. Unless outweighed by apathy= just take whatever you are given.(then you don't need an OS for you)
"We are not seeking validation from the court of public opinion. What we need is validation from the academic world," he said. Once that has been achieved, then the public can know.
It really sounds to me like they want outside verification, and are willing to pay for it themselves. Shouldn't we let that take place before we fry them in oil?
Exactly!
And the beauty of frying them in oil is that it provides Virtually Free fuel/biodeisel from the oil!/p?
glad to see that other people caught this too! They would have done better by putting a steel plate over the drive and running over the plate (or board, something that does NOT give under pressure too much) If they could have concentrated all of one wheel's force, they could have at least gotten closer to 1/4 of the weight--which brings up another problem = a New Beetle weighs MORE than 2000 lbs (but MUCH less than 8000lbs)
An "original" Beetle weighs under 2000lbs, my '68 is around 1800 or 1900. The 2006 New Beetle cabriolet automatic weighs 3258lbs.
So if they stood a New Beetle (which is definitely what is shown in the picture) on one tire, it would be MUCH more than 2000lbs, but if they concentrated all of one wheel's force while evenly on all four, it would STILL only be around 800lbs.
Infoport --- Better know your VWs before advertising thumb drives around here!;-)
-- phone companies have been giving over records and access to logs to the NSA, if not access stream of converstion itself, and acc. to the agencies, they routinely SHARE all secret intelligence information that they can with each other-- FBI, DEA, etc. It doesn't really matter WHAT the first agency used as a justification once info is SHARED with another agency either.
A few things that should be noted: the Grateful Dead do NOT give away ALL of their "product".
But, giving away some of their products gives THEM much exposure and helps others see that what they have to offer shows skill and has variation each and every time. From this they are able to build greater customer base and support and from that sell more of their other products.
For instance,
you still usually have to pay to see a concert. RESULT: they were the top grossing band in 1990 with almost DOUBLE the 2nd place grosser (I'm sure they did ok in other years too)
You are not allowed to copy and sell COMMERCIAL releases, but are allowed to copy and give away concert recordings. RESULT: happy fans police themselves and each other, and stop any illegal sales through community pressure and free concert tapes.
They sell t-shirts, bears, stickers, coffee cups, license plates, etc, and protect their logos.
they also speak up on issues and are listened to, etc because fans like how they act
etc etc
With unhappy people, they may copy and distribute product out of SPITE, but with happy loving fans they only do what allowed out of happiness with group, and help police themselves out of happiness too. THIS is what the Grateful Dead have achieved (now some may find a few fans distributing stuff they shouldn't but it is the small minority)
To address the quality point, the Dead allow people to bring in equipment and mike stands, usually up to 6ft or 12ft. People spend thousands on equipment. Files are made using LOSSLESS formats (not mp3), and some copies are even distributed with 5.1 sound-- these are NOT low quality copies!!!
while our first instinct is to not trust the Borg, I think that Borg's and Clarke's warnings need to be heeded because Bob Kane has already provided script for economic terrorism(reprinted in '89): expect that before long people will be dying from poisoning through shampoos, deodorants, toothpaste, etc used in combination. The common element will be that they will all have giant grins on their faces.
What can we do about this? put a signal in the sky and hope for help (NOT an "amber alert" mind you)
OR maybe running scared or scaring others isn't the most productive solution. NOT creating problems in other countries might help...
On more issue: many spammers are not "in the system".
Our system has no control over those who are outside the system, spamming from an offshore account (or even one in another country that isn't willing and cooperative to help with our law enforcement.) Even when we do have cooperation from other places, we are then relying upon other governments which were NOT elected by us, potentially using methods which we do not condone-- how about fighting fire with napalm? (ex. use of torture to extract information, lack of same Constitutional rights and protections, different level of overview of law enforcement practices).
One interesting note from the WikiPedia article (couldn't find it elsewhere right now), is that the frog does not make any poison of its own but instead gets poison from insects which it eats. Seemed like an interesting tie-in for a P2P project.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dendrobates_azureus
No, that is how a PERFECT system would work.
What ACTUALLY happensis that you have law enforcement that is PAID to do a job, and is also picked from applicants who often feel personally about their work. This makes the law enforcement act for what they feel is best, in much the same way that others might, except for the fact that law enforcement is "official".
This leads towards enforcement of laws in ways that use loopholes in one law as tools to find other transgressions, or to use interpretation and hope that it is not challenged or is supported by the courts. The courts also interpret laws, sometimes in ways that are later CHANGED by other courts.
In addition to these ways of using to laws by your own flavor of enforcement, law enforcement also has the ability to selectively enforce laws that might be stopped if those laws were enforced upon all.
Also in addition, there is the matter of the less honest law enforcement, who breaks or misuses the law, who breaks the law for corrupt purposes, etc.
At a higher level, we do not live in a democratic society-- we live in a representative democracy, NOT A true democracy, plus the entrencement of the two party system gives more than a democratic enfluence upon what sort of representative we have. Those reprentatives are then able to pursue whatever flavor of government they REALLY believe, regardless of campaign personae. Many lawmakers portray themselves as religious moral characters with strong beliefs, and their lawmaking uses those religious and non-democratic principles as one of their "strengths" -- leaving We the People in a society ruled by many laws that the community governed does not hold dear.
On a related note, our elected officials are NOT necessarily representative of the comunity, due to low voter turnout, influence of the entrenched candidates, the HUGE money required to campaign, and the nuisance of couting votes so that the candidate with the most might win (think Election 2000). Plus, most law enforcement officials are NOT elected, they are hired or appointed.
I would agree that their could be issues with Okopipi, but to say that law enforcement is the perfect system is just misguided-- that is why we MUST HAVE so many checks and balances, although the effort of being required to use those checks and balances makes many peopole "just settle so it will go away" (also very true in civil law cases).
It seems that you are really disagreeing with who holds the fire and not with the idea of fighting fire with fire, unless you think that getting all those replies to your spam would be cruel and unusual?
You DID link to it-- I actually followed that link, but I was confused beforehand since it seemed like I had read it before.
I don't think everyone will follow the links though or realize that it is a rewrite (which I thought was FUNNY btw). In fact, I also replied to another emailer who wondered how you posted such a long email so quickly.http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid= 186474&cid=15395710
also, I only included the Tom Lehrer quote in that reply because it seemed funny...it did seem like you were linking to the original author, just not in a way clear to the casual user (the less-casual user FOLLOWS LINKS!) No disrespect meant, just wanted to clear up a confusion I saw myself and others having.
Rather, you are ahead if you know where to get the text of an inappropriate Nike SHOE order from 5 1/2 years ago.
This is actually a re-write of an old email regarding just Nike shoes.
The author of the re-write does link to the original, but you have to click links or you may not realize it.
See my other reply: http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=186474&c id=15395619 (slashdot.org)
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This humorous post SHOULD SAY that
"Below is a SIMULATED email correspondence with customer service representatives at iPOD iD..."
It is actually a reworded version of an OLD emil from 2001, which can be found at http://www.shey.net/niked.html
The re-write author links to this in the text "not really", but it still seems "not really" clear that this is NOT recent email with Nike-- THAT is how he got this out on the Slashdot article so quickly.
To be fair, he DOES say "with apologies to Jonah H. Peretti", who is the person who had the original correspondence with Nike 5 1/2 years ago.
Well, that depends. Let's say you are in a country whose constitution states that "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures shall not be violated". If you are a police officer, you would say that's *more* restriction, if you are an average citizen, you would say that's *less* restriction.
And if you are a Head of State, you would say that's no restriction AT ALL-- just a matter of the safety of Our Country, Executive Priviledge, National Security and State secr-*fnord*FNORD*FNORD*.
Hey, the people with nothing to hide will feel secure in their persons anyway even if we search, right?
(but seriously, as much as I would like a better Gentoo that doesn't have issues with setup of ATI drivers, you gotta stick to principles, or the BAD examples will also prevail. If ATI would open their drivers, maybe the TV stuff on my ATI cards would ALSO be of use to me)
But my father pointed out that years ago, you didn't need a social security card until you first got a job. Now, in order to claim your children on taxes, you have to get them a social security number. But you wouldn't use that number for anything else... so for 16 to 18 years, there's a largely unmonitored SSN available for fraudulent use. Even this wouldn't be a major problem... except for all of the other stuff your SSN is now used for.
Not quite true-- you didn't have to get a SSN to claim children for your tax exemptions, but if they had any income themselves, such as an account or stocks given as gifts or college-fund, then you would get a SSN so that you didn't have to claim the income yourself. (the children would often not have enough income to pay any taxes at all, and stocks wouldn't be taxed until they were sold for capital gains).
The main point is still valid: it became a registered but mostly unused and unmonitored SSN.
Here is a more complete version of the Ben Franklin quote:
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
ATTRIBUTION: BENJAMIN FRANKLIN, Pennsylvania Assembly: Reply to the Governor, November 11, 1755.--The Papers of Benjamin Franklin, ed. Leonard W. Labaree, vol. 6, p. 242 (1963).
This quotation, slightly altered, is inscribed on a plaque in the stairwell of the pedestal of the Statue of Liberty: "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
http://www.bartleby.com/73/1056.html
Of course most people have heard this simplified version:
"Those who would trade liberty for security deserve neither."
Benjamin Franklin
(1706-1790) U.S. inventor and statesman - published Poor Richard's Almanac; developed the open stove (1740), the lightning rod (1752) and the bifocal lens (1760).
http://www.dontquoteme.com/search/quote_display.js p?quoteID=667&gameID=1
And most Americans can be lead like sheep into giving it all up, which is why the terrorists have won-- this is NOT the country of Freedom that our Forefathers envisioned. Terrorists ARE destroying our country.
The main problem? You don't have to hunt for AlQuaeda, CITIZENS are doing most of the destruction of Democracy.
"We have seen the enemy and he is us." --Pogo comic, Walt Kelly
But I would seriously expect the products at Wal-mart and the small business guy not to compare well. Big-box stores like Wal-mart, Home Depot, etc, are known for playing games with margins.
AMEN! And boxed parts are likely to appear in stores if this works. If computer parts companies who aim for enthusiast are smart, they WILL hold out against the WalMart-cheapening of their products. There would quickly be advice on the 'Net pointing out which sound cards, or video cards or speakers used low quality parts under the brand's high quality name, so enthusiasts could avoid them. The use of low quality base parts (like no-name MB/RAM/power supplies/etc) in barebones computers is pretty common, so maybe they are safe there, but thhat seems like it would lead to more boxed parts next to the computers eventually.
There was this Slashdot article http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/03/28/223524 6 about a man taking his products OUT of WalMart to avoid the cheapening of his high quality lawn equipment (the cheapening of the brand, and the price gap/struggle in WalMart lawn centers without knowledgeable staff to enable the high-quality products to shine)
WalMart is also known to leverage additional censorship upon movies and music sold there, leading to those works being issued in WalMart-censored and everybody-else versions. (ex.the comic-book-animated movie Spawn.http://imdb.com/title/tt0118475/alternatever sions There was also a live action version with John Leguizamo)
There are very few computer parts that I wouldn't worry about getting a YET CHEAPER part than whatever the manufacturer manages to create for their margin vs. my brand expectation. As it is, those who care have to read a lot of benchmarks and tests to put something together a la carte that will be stable under pressue.
Maybe case screws? Floppy drives? Air in a can?
I would worry about the advice employees give too, except that the big computer chains usually give out their share of ignorant advice via their staff.
http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/04/ 25/1352257
John and Suzie Q Public who go in for advice before purchase will probably be screwed. But hey, choice is always better.;-)
I was thinking of setting up a honeypot within my router (using a flavor/branch of OpenWRT on the router), but I'm starting to think that I'm really not doing so bad after all. Sure I get spam, but I guess I'm not receiving "family size" spam deliveries.
Funny that you should mention wireless routers...I found a USE for STORE EMPLOYEES!
I had the same experience trying to buy wireless routers going from Circuit City to Best Buy. Nobody could open the boxes to let me find which model number one was, and the floor employees were a nuisance who could only read the text on the boxes (and not seem to understand the words they read, but give me bad info while I tried to concentrate).
BUT I was looking for the right model of WRT54GS, and I finally found a use for the employees --helping me read serial numbers off boxes until I found the "good" model (I have a serial# range list from LinkSysInfo http://www.linksysinfo.org/modules.php?name=Conten t&pa=showpage&pid=6 )
Actually, I called first and made clear that I was only interested in particular serial# ranges, and had them put one aside for me-- but they were NOT able to do that either! Once I went into the store and started combing through boxes, I decided that they could help read numbers with me. SUCCESS!
In summary, store employees are useful for reading SMALL bits of numbers or text verbatim -- if you need to read a tiny bit off of three dozen+ boxes, they're the right tool!
But don't ask your parrot to do your spellchecking, and don't ask the BestBuy/Circuit City/etc employees what electronics work together.
BTW, at Circuit City, most were also unable to find their store circular and referred me to the one person at customer service (with a line). At CompUSA (and others) they often can't tell me correctly when a product is on another row/end of row -- they look at the shelves the same as me, as if they have never been there before. Even worse, CompUSA often has 3-4 different prices (shelf/register/circular/box) and the employees only have guesses/fables to explain why or resolve it.
I have to agree with rainman, that generalization is hasty. The Lowe's near me all employ (at least some) very qualified people, and I am in an urban area. In particular the main plumbing person used to be a licensed plumber, just like your experience.
In fact, I believe that Lowe's likes to brag about their qualified staff, in advertisements and such. I have found people in other areas of Lowe's to have some knowledge and skills also (like cutting thick glass/plexiglass/etc and not cracking it and starting over).
BUT, Best Buy/CompUSA/Circuit City...better off asking the customers usually. The most the employees can usually do is read the shelf label.
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I welcome our masterfully succinct authors!
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This story seemed familiar...because it is from Aug 22, 2006.8 /22/1526248?
It is also somewhat obvious for the technically minded Slashdot user.
mainly though, it is a REPEAT.http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/0
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I find that a Morningstar Farms dog goes great, and for Friday's celebration one should really be performing a devotion againt "popular" paganism-- even your own! .
*fnord*
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You don't have to grow your own produce, just as most programmers don't solder their own motherboards or develop their own RAM chips.
But even if the syntax becomes easier, the LOGIC is still needed, or you will end up with illogical programs that do even LESS of what you want, or crash (more than usual).
Using the metaphor of food, even if you don't grow your own food you need to understand the difference between the vegetable and the stem, the difference between the part you throw away and the part you eat. Unless you are forever going to pay "food programmers" to give you pre-made items that suit someone else's tastes, then you need to learn a little of the "magic" required to program simple meals. You may use a cookbook, but nowadays many packages of pre-made food must tell the user to remove from box before placing in the oven! If you told an "uneducated" homemaker from 100 years ago that it was unreasonable to understand these things without a "food programming" degree, they would laugh at the fools the future is producing-- because "standard" teaching from their family and community would include such knowledge.
If you were to find someone with an early car 50-60 years ago, chances are they would know how to change a tire, and probably even how to patch the tube on the side of the road (despite the fact that only those with money would have had a car at that point-- self-reliance was still important).
Now my VWs are pretty simple cars. I had someone point out that my fan belt was worn and wouldn't make it home. I agreed, and started opening my hood and getting a wrench and belt out. My friend asked in amazement what I was doing, and I said I was going to change it. Five minutes later, a new belt was on (one of the easiest jobs in an old VW granted), and everything was fine. Now I was at a house, and I have AAA, but they would have taken 5 minutes to get the directions to there even! (and more like 1 hour to arrive anytime I've ever called). I may call AAA for a flat tire out of laziness, or broken axle certainly, but laziness says it is more convenient for me to change something small like a fan belt versus the hassle of staying ignorant and relying on a slow repair truck.
In my view, the cost of ignorance is greater than the cost of learning. Unless outweighed by apathy= just take whatever you are given.(then you don't need an OS for you)
"But your honor, they didn't fine the big corporation who did that to Julia Roberts!
and she is pretty!"
*sigh*
stealing manuvers from Erin Brockovich now?
Exactly!
And the beauty of frying them in oil is that it provides Virtually Free fuel/biodeisel from the oil!/p?
glad to see that other people caught this too!
;-)
They would have done better by putting a steel plate over the drive and running over the plate (or board, something that does NOT give under pressure too much)
If they could have concentrated all of one wheel's force, they could have at least gotten closer to 1/4 of the weight--which brings up another problem = a New Beetle weighs MORE than 2000 lbs (but MUCH less than 8000lbs)
An "original" Beetle weighs under 2000lbs, my '68 is around 1800 or 1900.
The 2006 New Beetle cabriolet automatic weighs 3258lbs.
So if they stood a New Beetle (which is definitely what is shown in the picture) on one tire, it would be MUCH more than 2000lbs, but if they concentrated all of one wheel's force while evenly on all four, it would STILL only be around 800lbs.
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Better know your VWs before advertising thumb drives around here!
SURPRISE! The DHS & NSA (& CIA, FBI, DEA) already have your phone numbers!
Read the previous Slashdot articleshttp://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/05/11/1
http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/06/20/1
http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/06/02/1
-- phone companies have been giving over records and access to logs to the NSA, if not access stream of converstion itself, and acc. to the agencies, they routinely SHARE all secret intelligence information that they can with each other-- FBI, DEA, etc. It doesn't really matter WHAT the first agency used as a justification once info is SHARED with another agency either.
InfoportA few things that should be noted: the Grateful Dead do NOT give away ALL of their "product". But, giving away some of their products gives THEM much exposure and helps others see that what they have to offer shows skill and has variation each and every time. From this they are able to build greater customer base and support and from that sell more of their other products.
For instance,
With unhappy people, they may copy and distribute product out of SPITE, but with happy loving fans they only do what allowed out of happiness with group, and help police themselves out of happiness too. THIS is what the Grateful Dead have achieved (now some may find a few fans distributing stuff they shouldn't but it is the small minority)
To address the quality point, the Dead allow people to bring in equipment and mike stands, usually up to 6ft or 12ft. People spend thousands on equipment. Files are made using LOSSLESS formats (not mp3), and some copies are even distributed with 5.1 sound-- these are NOT low quality copies!!!
InfoPort
What can we do about this? put a signal in the sky and hope for help (NOT an "amber alert" mind you)
OR maybe running scared or scaring others isn't the most productive solution. NOT creating problems in other countries might help...
Our system has no control over those who are outside the system, spamming from an offshore account (or even one in another country that isn't willing and cooperative to help with our law enforcement.) Even when we do have cooperation from other places, we are then relying upon other governments which were NOT elected by us, potentially using methods which we do not condone-- how about fighting fire with napalm? (ex. use of torture to extract information, lack of same Constitutional rights and protections, different level of overview of law enforcement practices).
http://www.atlantabotanicalgarden.org/conservatio
One interesting note from the WikiPedia article (couldn't find it elsewhere right now), is that the frog does not make any poison of its own but instead gets poison from insects which it eats. Seemed like an interesting tie-in for a P2P project.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dendrobates_azureus
This leads towards enforcement of laws in ways that use loopholes in one law as tools to find other transgressions, or to use interpretation and hope that it is not challenged or is supported by the courts. The courts also interpret laws, sometimes in ways that are later CHANGED by other courts.
In addition to these ways of using to laws by your own flavor of enforcement, law enforcement also has the ability to selectively enforce laws that might be stopped if those laws were enforced upon all.
Also in addition, there is the matter of the less honest law enforcement, who breaks or misuses the law, who breaks the law for corrupt purposes, etc.
At a higher level, we do not live in a democratic society-- we live in a representative democracy, NOT A true democracy, plus the entrencement of the two party system gives more than a democratic enfluence upon what sort of representative we have. Those reprentatives are then able to pursue whatever flavor of government they REALLY believe, regardless of campaign personae. Many lawmakers portray themselves as religious moral characters with strong beliefs, and their lawmaking uses those religious and non-democratic principles as one of their "strengths" -- leaving We the People in a society ruled by many laws that the community governed does not hold dear.
On a related note, our elected officials are NOT necessarily representative of the comunity, due to low voter turnout, influence of the entrenched candidates, the HUGE money required to campaign, and the nuisance of couting votes so that the candidate with the most might win (think Election 2000). Plus, most law enforcement officials are NOT elected, they are hired or appointed.
I would agree that their could be issues with Okopipi, but to say that law enforcement is the perfect system is just misguided-- that is why we MUST HAVE so many checks and balances, although the effort of being required to use those checks and balances makes many peopole "just settle so it will go away" (also very true in civil law cases).
It seems that you are really disagreeing with who holds the fire and not with the idea of fighting fire with fire, unless you think that getting all those replies to your spam would be cruel and unusual?
You DID link to it-- I actually followed that link, but I was confused beforehand since it seemed like I had read it before.= 186474&cid=15395710
I don't think everyone will follow the links though or realize that it is a rewrite (which I thought was FUNNY btw). In fact, I also replied to another emailer who wondered how you posted such a long email so quickly.http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid
also, I only included the Tom Lehrer quote in that reply because it seemed funny...it did seem like you were linking to the original author, just not in a way clear to the casual user (the less-casual user FOLLOWS LINKS!) No disrespect meant, just wanted to clear up a confusion I saw myself and others having.
Rather, you are ahead if you know where to get the text of an inappropriate Nike SHOE order from 5 1/2 years ago.c id=15395619 (slashdot.org)
This is actually a re-write of an old email regarding just Nike shoes.
The author of the re-write does link to the original, but you have to click links or you may not realize it.
See my other reply: http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=186474&
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"Plagarize...let no one's work evade you eyes. Remember why the good Lord made your eyes, so plagarize plagarize plagar..but be sure to always call it 'Research'" - Tom Lehrer "Lobachevsky"
This humorous post SHOULD SAY that
"Below is a SIMULATED email correspondence with customer service representatives at iPOD iD..."
It is actually a reworded version of an OLD emil from 2001, which can be found at http://www.shey.net/niked.html The re-write author links to this in the text "not really", but it still seems "not really" clear that this is NOT recent email with Nike-- THAT is how he got this out on the Slashdot article so quickly.
To be fair, he DOES say "with apologies to Jonah H. Peretti", who is the person who had the original correspondence with Nike 5 1/2 years ago.
At last! A way for me to NOT pay for the time when my OS crashes!
This also enables Microsoft to rename the BSOD to "Free Time"
(either that or to wake people up to the fact that they PAY for BSOD already-- will they pay by the hour for it?)
And if you are a Head of State, you would say that's no restriction AT ALL-- just a matter of the safety of Our Country, Executive Priviledge, National Security and State secr-*fnord*FNORD*FNORD*.
Hey, the people with nothing to hide will feel secure in their persons anyway even if we search, right?(but seriously, as much as I would like a better Gentoo that doesn't have issues with setup of ATI drivers, you gotta stick to principles, or the BAD examples will also prevail. If ATI would open their drivers, maybe the TV stuff on my ATI cards would ALSO be of use to me)
Not quite true-- you didn't have to get a SSN to claim children for your tax exemptions, but if they had any income themselves, such as an account or stocks given as gifts or college-fund, then you would get a SSN so that you didn't have to claim the income yourself. (the children would often not have enough income to pay any taxes at all, and stocks wouldn't be taxed until they were sold for capital gains).
The main point is still valid: it became a registered but mostly unused and unmonitored SSN.
Here is a more complete version of the Ben Franklin quote:
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"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." ATTRIBUTION: BENJAMIN FRANKLIN, Pennsylvania Assembly: Reply to the Governor, November 11, 1755.--The Papers of Benjamin Franklin, ed. Leonard W. Labaree, vol. 6, p. 242 (1963).
This quotation, slightly altered, is inscribed on a plaque in the stairwell of the pedestal of the Statue of Liberty: "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." http://www.bartleby.com/73/1056.html
Of course most people have heard this simplified version: "Those who would trade liberty for security deserve neither." Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790) U.S. inventor and statesman - published Poor Richard's Almanac; developed the open stove (1740), the lightning rod (1752) and the bifocal lens (1760). http://www.dontquoteme.com/search/quote_display.j
And most Americans can be lead like sheep into giving it all up, which is why the terrorists have won-- this is NOT the country of Freedom that our Forefathers envisioned. Terrorists ARE destroying our country. The main problem? You don't have to hunt for AlQuaeda, CITIZENS are doing most of the destruction of Democracy.
"We have seen the enemy and he is us." --Pogo comic, Walt Kelly
AMEN! And boxed parts are likely to appear in stores if this works. If computer parts companies who aim for enthusiast are smart, they WILL hold out against the WalMart-cheapening of their products. There would quickly be advice on the 'Net pointing out which sound cards, or video cards or speakers used low quality parts under the brand's high quality name, so enthusiasts could avoid them. The use of low quality base parts (like no-name MB/RAM/power supplies/etc) in barebones computers is pretty common, so maybe they are safe there, but thhat seems like it would lead to more boxed parts next to the computers eventually.
There was this Slashdot article http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/03/28/223524 6 about a man taking his products OUT of WalMart to avoid the cheapening of his high quality lawn equipment (the cheapening of the brand, and the price gap/struggle in WalMart lawn centers without knowledgeable staff to enable the high-quality products to shine)
WalMart is also known to leverage additional censorship upon movies and music sold there, leading to those works being issued in WalMart-censored and everybody-else versions. (ex.the comic-book-animated movie Spawn.http://imdb.com/title/tt0118475/alternatever sions There was also a live action version with John Leguizamo)
There are very few computer parts that I wouldn't worry about getting a YET CHEAPER part than whatever the manufacturer manages to create for their margin vs. my brand expectation. As it is, those who care have to read a lot of benchmarks and tests to put something together a la carte that will be stable under pressue.
Maybe case screws? Floppy drives? Air in a can?
I would worry about the advice employees give too, except that the big computer chains usually give out their share of ignorant advice via their staff. http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/04Until that Cloak of Invisibility surfaces,
I just want a Cloak of Evading Meetings (and Pointless Questions)
Apparently a big stack of papers on your desk, or carrying a notepad and looking concerned doesn't quite do it anymore.
(For those RPG players who need a number)
Cloak of Evading Meetings gives a +40% chance to Completing Projects, and a +25% chance to Leaving On Time.
*sigh*
I was thinking of setting up a honeypot within my router (using a flavor/branch of OpenWRT on the router), but I'm starting to think that I'm really not doing so bad after all.
Sure I get spam, but I guess I'm not receiving "family size" spam deliveries.
Funny that you should mention wireless routers...I found a USE for STORE EMPLOYEES!
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I had the same experience trying to buy wireless routers going from Circuit City to Best Buy. Nobody could open the boxes to let me find which model number one was, and the floor employees were a nuisance who could only read the text on the boxes (and not seem to understand the words they read, but give me bad info while I tried to concentrate).
BUT I was looking for the right model of WRT54GS, and I finally found a use for the employees --helping me read serial numbers off boxes until I found the "good" model (I have a serial# range list from LinkSysInfo http://www.linksysinfo.org/modules.php?name=Conte
Actually, I called first and made clear that I was only interested in particular serial# ranges, and had them put one aside for me-- but they were NOT able to do that either! Once I went into the store and started combing through boxes, I decided that they could help read numbers with me. SUCCESS!
In summary, store employees are useful for reading SMALL bits of numbers or text verbatim -- if you need to read a tiny bit off of three dozen+ boxes, they're the right tool!
But don't ask your parrot to do your spellchecking, and don't ask the BestBuy/Circuit City/etc employees what electronics work together.
BTW, at Circuit City, most were also unable to find their store circular and referred me to the one person at customer service (with a line). At CompUSA (and others) they often can't tell me correctly when a product is on another row/end of row -- they look at the shelves the same as me, as if they have never been there before. Even worse, CompUSA often has 3-4 different prices (shelf/register/circular/box) and the employees only have guesses/fables to explain why or resolve it.
I have to agree with rainman, that generalization is hasty.
The Lowe's near me all employ (at least some) very qualified people, and I am in an urban area. In particular the main plumbing person used to be a licensed plumber, just like your experience.
In fact, I believe that Lowe's likes to brag about their qualified staff, in advertisements and such.
I have found people in other areas of Lowe's to have some knowledge and skills also (like cutting thick glass/plexiglass/etc and not cracking it and starting over).
BUT, Best Buy/CompUSA/Circuit City...better off asking the customers usually. The most the employees can usually do is read the shelf label.
William