Um, yes? Hence "without content providers, they don't exist".
No. Directly owned.
Um, yes? Hence "without content providers, they don't exist". Why is this hard? Company A owns Company B. Company A says "Do this or we have no reason to continue your existence." Company B refuses. Company B ceases to exist.
No. This is a shitty way of saying "It's not our fault -- it's those guys over there."
When, in fact, 'us' and 'those guys' are one in the same.
This is the Crux. Hulu said , "no more boxee" because some really really REALLY stupid executive at some content provider that Hulu does nto have the balls to name said they did not like it.
You do realize that without content providers, Hulu ceases to exist, right? Having the proverbial balls to stand up to them could only backfire, as the content provider will happily stop providing. This is the nature of the beast when someone is providing content that has perceived value. (If it did not have perceived value, people would not watch it.)
Only the incredibly low IQ people think that boxee was stealing anything. These same people think that Best buy employees are highly educated and know what they are talking about.
Insulting people is always a fine way to make your point, but frankly stealing (or not) is irrelevant to the discussion. Hulu has not accused anybody of stealing, they're just saying "you can't do this anymore", and taking steps to prevent it.
You do realize that Hulu is OWNED by the content providers, right?
I doubt Wii games are what the O.P. was talking about. I think he/she/it was talking about older systems.
For instance, how many people signed the online petition to have Nintendo translate Mother 3 and release it in the US? I believe well over 100,000 people signed it. Yet Nintendo refused to translate and release the game over here. So, fans of the series took matters into their own hands and translated the game themselves. If Nintendo would have released the game, they could have made a ton of money off of it, but instead, it is now being "pirated," instead.
NES not releasing a game into a specific market does not justify people pirating the game. And EVEN if this game was in the market it would still be pirated. So again, stop attempting to justify this fud. People pirate because they don't want to pay the cost of the game. Not playing Mother 3 will not cause you to die so get over it.
It also does not justify Nintendo counting unauthorized copies of said game as lost revenue as they never intended to sell it to these people in the first place.
I thought Bender's Game was one of the better Futurama works. I can't think of any single Futurama TV episode or any combination of three Futurama TV episodes that I would say is better than Bender's Game.
One word: Godfellas.
(although I enjoyed the DVD's for what they are- more Futurama.)
Well the sound isn't the problem here... but, I believe that sometimes snipers, special troops, etc. use subsonic rounds for reasons of stealth. A silencer doesn't do you very much good when the bullet sonic-booms on its way to the target.
Oh yeah.. 1000 meters is nothing for a sniper... and given your 1500 fps velocity, you'd have 2 seconds to move.
Don't take this the wrong way, but who are you, -or I for that matter- to say "you'd only sell hardware if that was your primary business". A smart company would strive to capitalize on any revenue stream that they are capable of capturing.
Apple has always sold their computers with an Apple-developed OS. Call them control-freaks, or whatever, but that's the way it's always been.
Just because the software Apple bundles with its machines is software that you'd actually like to run, doesn't mean that they are obligated to support your random combobulation of commodity hardware.
I've seen wiper-blades in a grocery store... But I still call it the grocery store.
I tried to do a quick search to dig up the values of OS X sales as a percentage of gross sales, but wasn't able to come up with any neatly-packaged summary. Suffice to say that of the nearly 8 billion they took in last quarter, I'd bet that OS X sales were a very small percentage (although, I can't really back that up).
Apple's primary business is to sell hardware, always has been. The fact that the are willing to sell a new copy of their superior (yeah, I said it) OS to their existing client base, people that own Apple hardware, thereby allowing them an upgrade path (hardware specification willing) to the latest OS. I'm sure it's seen as a "value-add" or at least a way to open a revenue stream from a customer that has already made a significant purchase and may or may-not be likely to spend money on a new machine when their old one will run the latest OS to what is possibly (to them) an acceptable level.
I'm thankful they originally designed their OS to run on their hardware. If not, who else would have done it? Microsoft? Xerox? Remember back then it was almost inconceivable that anyone would actually want a home computer.
Apple spoke out about DRM on music because there is no need to encrypt data (AAC or MP3 format) that is readily available in the clear (AIFF or WAV files on an audio CD).
I agree that as it applies to media, DRM is bad. And if you buy a copy of Mac OS you, if you can, should be able to install it on your toaster if you want to -- just don't expect Apple to support it.
I'm sure the HDCP thing, sucky as it is, is a foreshadow of the shape of things to come until the content distributors pull their heads out of their asses and realize that customers do not want. And that their paid product is inferior to the one that anybody with a little initiative can download for free.
The fact of the matter is that an Intel Mac offers you the _most_ choices of supported OS'es out there, bar none.
The DRM I was speaking of was the measures Apple takes to try to keep you from running OS X on a non-Apple machine. They do that of their own free volition, yet claim to dislike DRM. It's sheer hypocrisy.
Apple is a hardware company. Were you gone that day?
You get the OS X experience included in the cost of your Apple hardware.
Apple did not invent DRM and OS X is not copy-protected. You can copy it a zillion times and install it with no problems, activation, etc. to any supported Apple computer in existence an unlimited number of times.
osX86 is pretty-much so mature that a monkey could install it. If Apple really trying to keep you/hobbyists from enjoying OS X on a commodity-hardware box they would be finding and suing the groups that release, talk about, troubleshoot, etc osX86 out of existence.
I suspect that the first thing the DOJ would do, then, is to get a court order against all members of the Mongols pertaining to the use of the logo. Once the court order is there, they'd have potential reason to move on those seen wearing it.
Of course, this does nothing to stop the Mongols from simply using another insignia, one that does not directly reference the Mongol name. It would spread throughout the organization in weeks, if not days, and the whole exercise would lose its value.
Value?
This tactic is a slippery slope at it's worst. How about the police stop them when they see them perpetrating ACTUAL crimes.
What if president whomever trademarked the phrase "President Whomever Sucks", or "Impeach Whomever" and you could actually get arrested for wearing it?
Please please I need to know if tin foil causes cancer or not.
It's fairly well known that the body produces cancerous cells every day (in it's normal operations) -- they're usually taken out by your immune system.
At least that's what the radio station that plays in my teeth tells me.
Exactly what I was thinking. What happens 10 years down the line when I try to play a game or watch a Movie that has some funky DRM on it, but I can't because the company is out of business or has shutdown the DRM server.
This sounds like a horrid idea. Precisely why the "pirated" version is a better value (even if you had to pay for it).
On the Mac: FFmpegX (http://www.ffmpegx.com/) or VisualHub (http://www.techspansion.com/visualhub/) . Both shareware, both work very well. FFmpegX is more feature-laden, but a little more complicated. VisualHub is easier to use and will batch and join files automatically as well.
On the PC: Super (http://www.erightsoft.com/SUPER.html) is a freeware frontend for ffmpeg. Works pretty well.
I believe that people are getting incredibly stupid about all this EULA terms of service.
I mean, on the Apple forums I am seeing posts "Well, they turned my $800 dollar phone into a brick, but schucks, I guess I deserve it because it is in the EULA."
I mean people go BERZERK over Microsoft shutting down their systems after upgrades and their keys fail to match the hardware anymore so Vista doesn't boot.
Apple users are just happy and content they spent $800 bucks it would seem for a phone and the company just turned it off, with no recourse.
I can see it now: "Damn, stuck out in nowhere with a flat tire.....Darn...looks like my EULA is gone, so I will have to die out here in the heat. Darn, but I guess I deserve it."
Absolutely amazing. I wonder if the EULA comes with a agreement that your IQ must be reduced to a 2 year old?
The only person who is ever going to shut my phone or PC off is going to be me and when I and only I hit the off button.
Mac Customers=Stupid
-Hack Dude - You're a tool. Too hard for you to figure that out? Too Bad.
I'm sure the phone can be restored to operable status by putting the official released OS back on it. You'd almost think that a person with the word "Hack" in his/her username would consider this....
Hopefully (actually I don't really care) my flame-bait post can be modded +5 insightful as well.
Despite of its many shortcomings, OS 9 (and earlier) were still IMHO vastly better than the competition in terms of stability and user experience. Control panels and extensions could seriously f-up your day back then, but you could pretty easily tune your system with Extension Manager and get it to run smoothly and reliably.
Win98 and ME on the other hand....
I'm not sure (and note I am mainly a Mac user, although I do have a couple of Windows boxes, and have even built a "Hackintosh") that Apple's idea to try to position itself in the market as the machine for "creative types" was the original goal -- they may, when they were last circling the drain in the 90's, have just decided to play to their base.
I would agree that most people that are really into (insert whater creative thing you wish here) ____________ really don't care what they use as long as it works well for them. They probably also realize it's nice to not to have to bother with the day-to-day issues a Windows user has to deal with in terms of adware, spyware, viruses, WGA, driver issues, etc.
Fact is, that nearly all purchasing decisions are emotional. Once one has taken ownership of a given product the process of being able to "logically" justify your motivation begins. Ford vs Chevy, Apple vs Microsoft, Callaway vs Taylor Made, etc.
I like my Macs because they run well, they look cool, and I like their overall build quality. I also think that some of the perceived "fanboism" comes from the fact that (if you've been around computers long enough) that Apple people have been treated like second-class citizens in the workplace, in the marketplace, and by a lot of people the supposedly know their stuff about computers for many years. They may just be oversensitive about it.
Don't take this the wrong way because I do not intend this as a serious flame... but having tattoos, green hair, and looking like you fell face-first into a tackle-box doesn't make you different - it makes you *exactly the same* as everyone else who is trying to be different -just like you.
Donating your time, or the $300 bucks you were about to spend on your next ultra-meaningful tattoo to a local charity would be pretty different. Stopping to pick up litter on the street is pretty different, and so on.
Do, say, the 92 (no I'm not exaggerating) "security updates" my last fresh XP SP2 install wanted to do (and WGA was one of them) qualify as bug fixes?
Microsoft kinda has the drug dealer, or Tommy Hilfiger*, policy on piracy (or stealing in Hilfiger's case) -- it's OK as long as it serves to increase our marketshare. But once we have everybody hooked, then we'll start actually trying to force people into paying for our software. If the "pirate" only knows how to use Word to type up a whatever, he'll mostly likely buy a copy when all of his "free" options no longer are viable. Think of how many hot copies of Office were spawned from people "borrowing" one from their place of employment.
Think of how more intrusive the Windows/Office registration (and killswitch) process has become from Win95 to present.
*Tommy stores were known, BITD, to look the other way when the "cool urban types" were shoplifting their wares. They viewed it as advertising/brand identification creation. Once they were ghetto fabulous, the rest of the wanna-be's would purchase their stuff to, you know, - be.
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Um, yes? Hence "without content providers, they don't exist".
No. Directly owned.
Um, yes? Hence "without content providers, they don't exist". Why is this hard? Company A owns Company B. Company A says "Do this or we have no reason to continue your existence." Company B refuses. Company B ceases to exist.
No. This is a shitty way of saying "It's not our fault -- it's those guys over there."
When, in fact, 'us' and 'those guys' are one in the same.
Same pants, different pocket.
Um, yes? Hence "without content providers, they don't exist".
No. Directly owned.
This is the Crux. Hulu said , "no more boxee" because some really really REALLY stupid executive at some content provider that Hulu does nto have the balls to name said they did not like it.
You do realize that without content providers, Hulu ceases to exist, right? Having the proverbial balls to stand up to them could only backfire, as the content provider will happily stop providing. This is the nature of the beast when someone is providing content that has perceived value. (If it did not have perceived value, people would not watch it.)
Only the incredibly low IQ people think that boxee was stealing anything. These same people think that Best buy employees are highly educated and know what they are talking about.
Insulting people is always a fine way to make your point, but frankly stealing (or not) is irrelevant to the discussion. Hulu has not accused anybody of stealing, they're just saying "you can't do this anymore", and taking steps to prevent it.
You do realize that Hulu is OWNED by the content providers, right?
On a side note -- bringing consumer electronics into Brazil with you for "personal" use is a great way to finance a vacation!
I doubt Wii games are what the O.P. was talking about. I think he/she/it was talking about older systems.
For instance, how many people signed the online petition to have Nintendo translate Mother 3 and release it in the US? I believe well over 100,000 people signed it. Yet Nintendo refused to translate and release the game over here. So, fans of the series took matters into their own hands and translated the game themselves. If Nintendo would have released the game, they could have made a ton of money off of it, but instead, it is now being "pirated," instead.
NES not releasing a game into a specific market does not justify people pirating the game. And EVEN if this game was in the market it would still be pirated. So again, stop attempting to justify this fud. People pirate because they don't want to pay the cost of the game. Not playing Mother 3 will not cause you to die so get over it.
It also does not justify Nintendo counting unauthorized copies of said game as lost revenue as they never intended to sell it to these people in the first place.
I thought Bender's Game was one of the better Futurama works. I can't think of any single Futurama TV episode or any combination of three Futurama TV episodes that I would say is better than Bender's Game.
One word: Godfellas.
(although I enjoyed the DVD's for what they are- more Futurama.)
This is the wireless equivalent of "Let them eat cake."
A place where your cellphone doesn't work? Inconceivable.
Well the sound isn't the problem here... but, I believe that sometimes snipers, special troops, etc. use subsonic rounds for reasons of stealth. A silencer doesn't do you very much good when the bullet sonic-booms on its way to the target.
Oh yeah.. 1000 meters is nothing for a sniper... and given your 1500 fps velocity, you'd have 2 seconds to move.
Don't take this the wrong way, but who are you, -or I for that matter- to say "you'd only sell hardware if that was your primary business". A smart company would strive to capitalize on any revenue stream that they are capable of capturing.
Apple has always sold their computers with an Apple-developed OS. Call them control-freaks, or whatever, but that's the way it's always been.
Just because the software Apple bundles with its machines is software that you'd actually like to run, doesn't mean that they are obligated to support your random combobulation of commodity hardware.
I've seen wiper-blades in a grocery store... But I still call it the grocery store.
I tried to do a quick search to dig up the values of OS X sales as a percentage of gross sales, but wasn't able to come up with any neatly-packaged summary. Suffice to say that of the nearly 8 billion they took in last quarter, I'd bet that OS X sales were a very small percentage (although, I can't really back that up).
Apple's primary business is to sell hardware, always has been. The fact that the are willing to sell a new copy of their superior (yeah, I said it) OS to their existing client base, people that own Apple hardware, thereby allowing them an upgrade path (hardware specification willing) to the latest OS. I'm sure it's seen as a "value-add" or at least a way to open a revenue stream from a customer that has already made a significant purchase and may or may-not be likely to spend money on a new machine when their old one will run the latest OS to what is possibly (to them) an acceptable level.
I'm thankful they originally designed their OS to run on their hardware. If not, who else would have done it? Microsoft? Xerox? Remember back then it was almost inconceivable that anyone would actually want a home computer.
Apple spoke out about DRM on music because there is no need to encrypt data (AAC or MP3 format) that is readily available in the clear (AIFF or WAV files on an audio CD).
I agree that as it applies to media, DRM is bad. And if you buy a copy of Mac OS you, if you can, should be able to install it on your toaster if you want to -- just don't expect Apple to support it.
I'm sure the HDCP thing, sucky as it is, is a foreshadow of the shape of things to come until the content distributors pull their heads out of their asses and realize that customers do not want. And that their paid product is inferior to the one that anybody with a little initiative can download for free.
The fact of the matter is that an Intel Mac offers you the _most_ choices of supported OS'es out there, bar none.
Yes you can -- just not with cmd-shift-3 or 4..
Try this: (it's posted all over the place, this one came up first in google) http://highschoolblows.blogspot.com/2005/11/take-screenshot-of-dvd-player-in-os-x.html
The DRM I was speaking of was the measures Apple takes to try to keep you from running OS X on a non-Apple machine. They do that of their own free volition, yet claim to dislike DRM. It's sheer hypocrisy.
Apple is a hardware company. Were you gone that day?
You get the OS X experience included in the cost of your Apple hardware.
Apple did not invent DRM and OS X is not copy-protected. You can copy it a zillion times and install it with no problems, activation, etc. to any supported Apple computer in existence an unlimited number of times.
osX86 is pretty-much so mature that a monkey could install it. If Apple really trying to keep you/hobbyists from enjoying OS X on a commodity-hardware box they would be finding and suing the groups that release, talk about, troubleshoot, etc osX86 out of existence.
I suspect that the first thing the DOJ would do, then, is to get a court order against all members of the Mongols pertaining to the use of the logo. Once the court order is there, they'd have potential reason to move on those seen wearing it.
Of course, this does nothing to stop the Mongols from simply using another insignia, one that does not directly reference the Mongol name. It would spread throughout the organization in weeks, if not days, and the whole exercise would lose its value.
Value?
This tactic is a slippery slope at it's worst. How about the police stop them when they see them perpetrating ACTUAL crimes.
What if president whomever trademarked the phrase "President Whomever Sucks", or "Impeach Whomever" and you could actually get arrested for wearing it?
Chilling effect indeed.
Please please I need to know if tin foil causes cancer or not.
It's fairly well known that the body produces cancerous cells every day (in it's normal operations) -- they're usually taken out by your immune system.
At least that's what the radio station that plays in my teeth tells me.
or does "free range" sand not cause cancer?
*everything causes cancer. Including the human body / systems that run it.
This sounds like a horrid idea. Precisely why the "pirated" version is a better value (even if you had to pay for it).
On the Mac: FFmpegX (http://www.ffmpegx.com/) or VisualHub (http://www.techspansion.com/visualhub/) . Both shareware, both work very well. FFmpegX is more feature-laden, but a little more complicated. VisualHub is easier to use and will batch and join files automatically as well.
On the PC: Super (http://www.erightsoft.com/SUPER.html) is a freeware frontend for ffmpeg. Works pretty well.
I believe that people are getting incredibly stupid about all this EULA terms of service.
I mean, on the Apple forums I am seeing posts "Well, they turned my $800 dollar phone into a brick, but schucks, I guess I deserve it because it is in the EULA."
I mean people go BERZERK over Microsoft shutting down their systems after upgrades and their keys fail to match the hardware anymore so Vista doesn't boot.
Apple users are just happy and content they spent $800 bucks it would seem for a phone and the company just turned it off, with no recourse.
I can see it now: "Damn, stuck out in nowhere with a flat tire.....Darn...looks like my EULA is gone, so I will have to die out here in the heat. Darn, but I guess I deserve it."
Absolutely amazing. I wonder if the EULA comes with a agreement that your IQ must be reduced to a 2 year old?
The only person who is ever going to shut my phone or PC off is going to be me and when I and only I hit the off button.
Mac Customers=Stupid
-Hack Dude - You're a tool. Too hard for you to figure that out? Too Bad.
I'm sure the phone can be restored to operable status by putting the official released OS back on it. You'd almost think that a person with the word "Hack" in his/her username would consider this....
Hopefully (actually I don't really care) my flame-bait post can be modded +5 insightful as well.
Honestly, it was late, I was tired, and I'm cool with whatever. It's a (supposedly) self-correcting system. {[8)
You saw the part where I admitted I thought they looked cool, right? =)
Despite of its many shortcomings, OS 9 (and earlier) were still IMHO vastly better than the competition in terms of stability and user experience. Control panels and extensions could seriously f-up your day back then, but you could pretty easily tune your system with Extension Manager and get it to run smoothly and reliably. Win98 and ME on the other hand....
I'm not sure (and note I am mainly a Mac user, although I do have a couple of Windows boxes, and have even built a "Hackintosh") that Apple's idea to try to position itself in the market as the machine for "creative types" was the original goal -- they may, when they were last circling the drain in the 90's, have just decided to play to their base.
I would agree that most people that are really into (insert whater creative thing you wish here) ____________ really don't care what they use as long as it works well for them. They probably also realize it's nice to not to have to bother with the day-to-day issues a Windows user has to deal with in terms of adware, spyware, viruses, WGA, driver issues, etc.
Fact is, that nearly all purchasing decisions are emotional. Once one has taken ownership of a given product the process of being able to "logically" justify your motivation begins. Ford vs Chevy, Apple vs Microsoft, Callaway vs Taylor Made, etc.
I like my Macs because they run well, they look cool, and I like their overall build quality. I also think that some of the perceived "fanboism" comes from the fact that (if you've been around computers long enough) that Apple people have been treated like second-class citizens in the workplace, in the marketplace, and by a lot of people the supposedly know their stuff about computers for many years. They may just be oversensitive about it.
Don't take this the wrong way because I do not intend this as a serious flame... but having tattoos, green hair, and looking like you fell face-first into a tackle-box doesn't make you different - it makes you *exactly the same* as everyone else who is trying to be different -just like you.
Donating your time, or the $300 bucks you were about to spend on your next ultra-meaningful tattoo to a local charity would be pretty different. Stopping to pick up litter on the street is pretty different, and so on.
Do, say, the 92 (no I'm not exaggerating) "security updates" my last fresh XP SP2 install wanted to do (and WGA was one of them) qualify as bug fixes?
Microsoft kinda has the drug dealer, or Tommy Hilfiger*, policy on piracy (or stealing in Hilfiger's case) -- it's OK as long as it serves to increase our marketshare. But once we have everybody hooked, then we'll start actually trying to force people into paying for our software. If the "pirate" only knows how to use Word to type up a whatever, he'll mostly likely buy a copy when all of his "free" options no longer are viable. Think of how many hot copies of Office were spawned from people "borrowing" one from their place of employment.
Think of how more intrusive the Windows/Office registration (and killswitch) process has become from Win95 to present.
*Tommy stores were known, BITD, to look the other way when the "cool urban types" were shoplifting their wares. They viewed it as advertising/brand identification creation. Once they were ghetto fabulous, the rest of the wanna-be's would purchase their stuff to, you know, - be.
I wouldn't piss on a Sony laptop -if it were on fire. Especially after they made an attempt to rootkit your system.