No, you broke it. Microsoft makes a mobile OS that they license to phone manufacturers. Google makes a mobile OS that they give away to phone manufacturers. Apple makes a single mobile phone that they provide the hardware and software for, but that they don't make available to others. It's very successful but it's not quite the same market niche.
No, it's Android that will slaughter Windows Phone 7, not iPhone. And can we please dispense with this "fixed that for you" meme? I meant exactly what I said, and I'm sure other people that get "corrected" mean what they say too.
I get this, but what I mean (and was unclear about) is that the survey appears to be a survey of only developers. Not a random selection of purchasers.
Why would most end users care about the App Store approval process? If you're surveying developers say that you're surveying developers. Oh wait, is it just that the Slashdot summary is wrong? Thought so.
Don't survey a subset of the users and then generalize that to all users. It's inherently unfair.
(no, I don't have an iPad and probably never will)
Yes, I see your point now. Some petition signers may be taking the tack that you espouse but I think history has shown that distrust of the voters in these matters is justified. In fact, wasn't the Washington vote the first time voters actually supported a gay "marriage" law? (or more specifically, failed to repeal one when given a chance.) I strongly suspect that your point of view on this is a minority one, and that most people signed the petition because they find the idea of gay marriage reprehensible.
My problem with all of this is the idea that we can let a majority vote decide what the rights of minorities should be. Sure petition the government all you want, as long as you're willing to be open about it. But at the end of the day sometimes we should just be told we're wrong, or leave it to the courts to decide.
I'd like to correct a slight mischaracterization in your comment. The petition was to repeal a law that had already been passed by the legislature that provided almost all of the benefits of marriage to gay citizens. In that context I think your friends' anger is at least understandable. As for bullying state voters, it comes down to having the courage of your convictions. I doubt you'll see violence arising from the release of the names but I do believe you will see boycotts. So what we have here is fear on the part of the signees that their livelihoods will be threatened. That's always a risk when you stand up for your deeply held beliefs. Deal with it.
TFA talks about additional ports and card slots. Are those defining characteristics? Whether they are or not, what they symbolize is an extension of the PC-centric model of computing that the iPad does not. Many people have said, and I agree, that the iPad is a computing appliance and not a true computer. That's actually its greatest strength. In the sense that Apple has created a market for tablet devices these potential competitors are misreading that market if we see a slew of Windows 7 tablet computers come out of this. Android tablets may or may not be another story. If the market is for a simple computing appliance these vendors would do well to try to do as little as possible, not what it seems they're trying to do.
Never forget that the market for these devices isn't the just technorati. It's Homer Simpson and friends.
Is it any surprise that white children pick the darker skinned and declare them to be "ugly"? And in light of earlier comments in this thread: correlation or causation?
That's one perspective. But I think you're misreading Apple. Apple doesn't care, and has never cared, about being the largest vendor in any particular space. They only care about being the "best" -- where they get to define what "best" means. Remember when they launched the iPhone and they claimed to want 1% of the smartphone space, which at the time represented perhaps 10% of the mobile phone market? They achieved that goal and then some. Other vendors had to respond to Apple and what Apple was doing. They still are. So success for Apple is to have the lead in mindshare and to make money hand over fist. They're doing that without dominating the market and I suspect they will continue in spite of Android's sales win for this quarter.
If Apple ends up with a minority share of the market they won't care one bit as long as their share is the most profitable portion of that market.
Exactly this. Of course, if the investigation shows it was an attack Wall Street could never admit it. Lack of confidence in the system would be every bit as destructive as the attack itself.
So you're saying the "magic" is really the Higgs boson? Something so abhorrent to nature it moves backwards in time to prevent its own discovery. Yeah, that pretty much sums up the netbook exactly...
An oil pipeline spill in Alaska a few years ago. A refinery explosion and fire in Texas last year. Now this. Somewhere along the line BP procedures need to be questioned because it appears that something is wrong with they way the conduct their operations.
I realize BP says they will pay for this. But watch the actions of their lawyers closely, and the bank accounts of your congressmen even closer.
Microsoft conspicuously said today that IE9 will only support H.264 for HTML5 video. Add in Apple and you have the two largest consumer OS vendors backing the same codec. I suspect they do know something the public doesn't, even if they themselves will not be a party to this patent challenge.
Theora will just end up becoming collateral damage in the coming war all of the large vendors are about to wage with Google. Follow the breadcrumbs and that's where you eventually end up.
War in Iraq or return to the moon? You had the choice and you chose poorly. Don't pretend that this is just the new guy's problem or that spending money on health care is the issue. If America is broke (and it is, as well as being broken) you have to be more circumspect about where you spend your limited funds. Constellation failed on the last guy's watch because the vision for creating it and the funds for building it were limited from the outset.
See here: http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d09844.pdf
Apple hasn't forgotten the lesson they learned from IBM and others. Allowing developers to use proprietary tools like Adobe's Flash suite makes them dependent on Adobe's development cycle and not their own. Apple claims to have just released 1500 new API's for iPhone OS. How long will it take for Adobe to support them with their development tools? About as long is it takes to get a version of Flash for OSX that doesn't use 99% of the CPU? Or as long as it takes IBM to release a 3 GHz G5?
Not all issues surrounding control are negative. Sometimes it's just about controlling your own destiny and place in the market.
Because it can be the same app. If I release a free, ad supported version of an app that doesn't have all of the bells and whistles (i.e. a "lite" version) you get to discover how awesome my app is, and I get to make money from advertising. Then you decide that you actually need some of those bells and whistles. You then pay my asking price for the full app. The ads go away, because the full version doesn't have them.
The free version allowed you to discover my app. I got to make some money off of my work, and some people are happy with this level of service. For the people that need more, I get to make a reasonable return on my work from just the sale price of the app. And they aren't annoyed by advertising.
Seems to me this is a good deal for the developer and the customer. You may still be correct, but I'd wager that a developer would rather make money on their work than not make money, if they have the choice.
Perhaps, but without the blood and severed limbs I'm more likely to allow my kids to play it. I say good for them for transforming their arms into ploughshares.
That a phone that caters to developers is NOT a phone that the rest of the world has much interest in using. I love the flexibility promised by Android, but if smartphones are going to take over the world I would not want my grandmother to have to deal with fragmentation and software complexity. Android phones and the iPhone occupy two different market niches. This is a good thing for both developers and consumers.
it's just another brick in the wall.
I can't believe these tactics and tools are the will of the people of the UK. I sincerely hope that if it is not they rein in their government--while they still can.
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No, you broke it. Microsoft makes a mobile OS that they license to phone manufacturers. Google makes a mobile OS that they give away to phone manufacturers. Apple makes a single mobile phone that they provide the hardware and software for, but that they don't make available to others. It's very successful but it's not quite the same market niche.
No, it's Android that will slaughter Windows Phone 7, not iPhone. And can we please dispense with this "fixed that for you" meme? I meant exactly what I said, and I'm sure other people that get "corrected" mean what they say too.
That would be Windows Phone 7. Thanks to Android it's likely to meet a similar fate.
I get this, but what I mean (and was unclear about) is that the survey appears to be a survey of only developers. Not a random selection of purchasers.
Why would most end users care about the App Store approval process? If you're surveying developers say that you're surveying developers. Oh wait, is it just that the Slashdot summary is wrong? Thought so.
Don't survey a subset of the users and then generalize that to all users. It's inherently unfair.
(no, I don't have an iPad and probably never will)
When will she digivolve to Ultimate? And what will her new powers be?
Yes, I see your point now. Some petition signers may be taking the tack that you espouse but I think history has shown that distrust of the voters in these matters is justified. In fact, wasn't the Washington vote the first time voters actually supported a gay "marriage" law? (or more specifically, failed to repeal one when given a chance.) I strongly suspect that your point of view on this is a minority one, and that most people signed the petition because they find the idea of gay marriage reprehensible.
My problem with all of this is the idea that we can let a majority vote decide what the rights of minorities should be. Sure petition the government all you want, as long as you're willing to be open about it. But at the end of the day sometimes we should just be told we're wrong, or leave it to the courts to decide.
I'd like to correct a slight mischaracterization in your comment. The petition was to repeal a law that had already been passed by the legislature that provided almost all of the benefits of marriage to gay citizens. In that context I think your friends' anger is at least understandable. As for bullying state voters, it comes down to having the courage of your convictions. I doubt you'll see violence arising from the release of the names but I do believe you will see boycotts. So what we have here is fear on the part of the signees that their livelihoods will be threatened. That's always a risk when you stand up for your deeply held beliefs. Deal with it.
If only I had mod points... This is no more annoying than the singing that goes on in other countries. Or the rioting and drunken hooliganism.
TFA talks about additional ports and card slots. Are those defining characteristics? Whether they are or not, what they symbolize is an extension of the PC-centric model of computing that the iPad does not. Many people have said, and I agree, that the iPad is a computing appliance and not a true computer. That's actually its greatest strength. In the sense that Apple has created a market for tablet devices these potential competitors are misreading that market if we see a slew of Windows 7 tablet computers come out of this. Android tablets may or may not be another story. If the market is for a simple computing appliance these vendors would do well to try to do as little as possible, not what it seems they're trying to do.
Never forget that the market for these devices isn't the just technorati. It's Homer Simpson and friends.
I read this /. post shortly after reading a story on CNN.com about young children and race. http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/05/18/doll.study.parents/index.html?hpt=C2
Is it any surprise that white children pick the darker skinned and declare them to be "ugly"? And in light of earlier comments in this thread: correlation or causation?
That's one perspective. But I think you're misreading Apple. Apple doesn't care, and has never cared, about being the largest vendor in any particular space. They only care about being the "best" -- where they get to define what "best" means. Remember when they launched the iPhone and they claimed to want 1% of the smartphone space, which at the time represented perhaps 10% of the mobile phone market? They achieved that goal and then some. Other vendors had to respond to Apple and what Apple was doing. They still are. So success for Apple is to have the lead in mindshare and to make money hand over fist. They're doing that without dominating the market and I suspect they will continue in spite of Android's sales win for this quarter.
If Apple ends up with a minority share of the market they won't care one bit as long as their share is the most profitable portion of that market.
Exactly this. Of course, if the investigation shows it was an attack Wall Street could never admit it. Lack of confidence in the system would be every bit as destructive as the attack itself.
So you're saying the "magic" is really the Higgs boson? Something so abhorrent to nature it moves backwards in time to prevent its own discovery. Yeah, that pretty much sums up the netbook exactly...
An oil pipeline spill in Alaska a few years ago. A refinery explosion and fire in Texas last year. Now this. Somewhere along the line BP procedures need to be questioned because it appears that something is wrong with they way the conduct their operations.
I realize BP says they will pay for this. But watch the actions of their lawyers closely, and the bank accounts of your congressmen even closer.
Microsoft conspicuously said today that IE9 will only support H.264 for HTML5 video. Add in Apple and you have the two largest consumer OS vendors backing the same codec. I suspect they do know something the public doesn't, even if they themselves will not be a party to this patent challenge.
Theora will just end up becoming collateral damage in the coming war all of the large vendors are about to wage with Google. Follow the breadcrumbs and that's where you eventually end up.
Chances are the technology will resurface in a web-based iTunes client one day soon. What are the dates for WWDC again?
War in Iraq or return to the moon? You had the choice and you chose poorly. Don't pretend that this is just the new guy's problem or that spending money on health care is the issue. If America is broke (and it is, as well as being broken) you have to be more circumspect about where you spend your limited funds. Constellation failed on the last guy's watch because the vision for creating it and the funds for building it were limited from the outset. See here: http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d09844.pdf
Apple hasn't forgotten the lesson they learned from IBM and others. Allowing developers to use proprietary tools like Adobe's Flash suite makes them dependent on Adobe's development cycle and not their own. Apple claims to have just released 1500 new API's for iPhone OS. How long will it take for Adobe to support them with their development tools? About as long is it takes to get a version of Flash for OSX that doesn't use 99% of the CPU? Or as long as it takes IBM to release a 3 GHz G5?
Not all issues surrounding control are negative. Sometimes it's just about controlling your own destiny and place in the market.
Because it can be the same app. If I release a free, ad supported version of an app that doesn't have all of the bells and whistles (i.e. a "lite" version) you get to discover how awesome my app is, and I get to make money from advertising. Then you decide that you actually need some of those bells and whistles. You then pay my asking price for the full app. The ads go away, because the full version doesn't have them.
The free version allowed you to discover my app. I got to make some money off of my work, and some people are happy with this level of service. For the people that need more, I get to make a reasonable return on my work from just the sale price of the app. And they aren't annoyed by advertising.
Seems to me this is a good deal for the developer and the customer. You may still be correct, but I'd wager that a developer would rather make money on their work than not make money, if they have the choice.
Perhaps, but without the blood and severed limbs I'm more likely to allow my kids to play it. I say good for them for transforming their arms into ploughshares.
$15 a month in the US. The iPad is primarily a wi-fi device, or so it seems to me. Why would anyone pay for the unlimited data plan?
Better than the child outliving the parent. That's how zombies are made...
That a phone that caters to developers is NOT a phone that the rest of the world has much interest in using. I love the flexibility promised by Android, but if smartphones are going to take over the world I would not want my grandmother to have to deal with fragmentation and software complexity. Android phones and the iPhone occupy two different market niches. This is a good thing for both developers and consumers.
it's just another brick in the wall. I can't believe these tactics and tools are the will of the people of the UK. I sincerely hope that if it is not they rein in their government--while they still can.
Is that your six gun in your pocket or did you just shoot first?