I remember a similar problem with Microsoft CRM. The idea of Microsoft making a CRM product rocked hardcore to those in a Microsoft Office environment with Great Plains products abound. The execution was terrible, and now it's an embarassment.
People LOVED the idea of Microsoft CRM. Solaris people are going to LOVE the idea of Open Source Solaris. But does anyone really believe Sun is going to do this right? Moreover, what would be the right way to take an existing commercial server product, open it up, and find a way to make more money off of it?
Perhaps if this move is successful, Sun would start abandoning hardware, and move towards a more services-based company - like the transition IBM started 2 years ago?
Frankly, an Open Source Solaris stands a better chance at killing Solaris than it does Linux.
The author starts the article by declaring "Let me start by saying that I'm not a technical expert. Although this might be a handicap it could very well be a positive in looking at the issue of Sun versus Linux in the server business from a decision maker's point of view." He's basically lost most of his credibility there, because a good decision maker needs to bring in technical people to explain this.
Though I understand the PHB philosophy of needing a brand name on their *nix product, I don't understand what's wrong with Red Hat or Novell now?
Moreover, it's setting itself up for patent lawsuits once the usual suspects start going through the newly open sourced code. Not that it's an agreeable method, but it's a fact of life.
The points the author makes are weak:
o The Solaris software is of proven quality and at least equal or better then Linux and the open source model will assure that it stays up there.
An open source model assures it of nothing, unless they get good contributors....but:
o Because Sun by default is the only designated party managing the open source software, there will be no risk of a version bonanza with multiple incompatible versions.
No risk of a version bonanza with multiple incompatible versions? Does this individual not recall that this is the company who had put out Java 2 (1.2) and Java 5 (1.5) before a real version 2?
o Sun has a proven reputation in terms of quality of support. This should be at least as good or better then that of the Linux supporters.
Sun's support isn't bad no, but IBM's been an awesome proponent of Linux - including Red Hat's 3.0 offering. Big names do know Linux, and work with you on it. Not to mention that Google is an awesome knowledge base for Linux users. And how much does it cost to search google vs. a support incident with Sun?
I don't buy that this will affect Linux's growth in the server market any more than the stray bullet SCO lawsuits. Open Source Solaris will definitely invite more hobbyist interest, but I don't understand why any of this makes it a more viable server product.
The Cleveland job market isn't very good, but opportunities are out there for the right people. I left earlier this year for Columbus, where opportunities were both more plentiful and better paying. I spent 5 years in the Cleveland market before I left, and had probably twice as many phonecalls from Columbus.
Now, I'm back living up in Cuyahoga Falls as I now work for a cool consulting firm. I imagine we'll probably look elsewhere once my girlfriend, who incidentally will be starting at Kent State in the Spring, finishes up school.
Congrats on finishing your masters and finding an opportunity as quick as you did.
Yesterday, I started noticing a price drop on the EA Sports games on all platforms, including PC. I assume this has to do with the ESPN/Sega NBA/NFL/NHL 2K5 games all at $19.99 and selling well.
They've dropped their prices at the EA website for $29.99 in an attempt to sell more units. I also imagine the NHL lockout is affecting their sales as well.
I wonder if the lower prices/quality alternatives from ESPN and SEGA impacted EA's labor practices for this year's games?
Call it a hunch, but I don't think these guys can take the smaller profit margins and make it up in large volume like Dell can.
The Windows desktop OS, when part of an OEM deal, isn't terribly expensive for the reseller - though it can range from $25-85. If you've ever compared buying a system with Windows vs. Linux (same model, et al.) - they don't give you much of a price break because they're trying to keep their margins intact.
So, to answer your question - no, it's almost irrelevant. Especially given that they have to customize the OS to run on the machine.
Actually, the prices looked extremely reasonable enough that I'm considering a purchase. The LC2410 is only $1499. The 2430, the one in the review, is only $1699.
I'm rather impressed they can have prices this reasonable, "Windows tax" or not. A similar Dell Inspiron 5160 (a "desktop replacement" as well) configured with WinXP runs around the same price ($1640, though they are offering a free wireless card now).
You can pick apart ever part of every sentence I write, a lie is told knowingly, prove he lied and I'll eat my words. You can't know a mans thoughts. We are all fucking liers.
I could, couldn't I? Your statement of "We are all fucking liers (sic)" doesn't add anything to the credibility of what you're trying to say. It's not wrong, but it's not a trait I admire in a President.
You asked who could be president. One of the awesome things about this nation we love is that either of us could be president once we match the limited criteria. So, when you asked who amongst us could be president - I gave you the answer.
George W. Bush, certainly is not the best president that we have ever had but he is OUR GOD DAMN MOTHER FUCKING LEADER, SO LISTEN WITH A LITTLE BIT OF DIGNITY TO WHAT HE SAYS.
We did. He lied. Why millions of people look forward to doing it again is beyond me.
Who here can be president?
Those aged 35 or older, born as US citizens. Can't be a convicted felon.
The world brought the fight here!
No, the fight exists everywhere. The most prominent fight now is in Iraq. The largest is in Sudan.
Half your post was right. Getting into Canada is hard, but if you're that upset with how the nation is run - it's your best bet. That, or check out the EU. If you're unwilling to fight for what you want, either get new wants or a new country.
Oh, and Michael Jackson isn't a radical person hater. He just loves the children more than we'd care to hear about. He has plenty of respect for the world, as his fans are worldwide.
By now I realize I've fallen for a troll. At least I'm not wrong, though.
Yeah. I loved my DC. I had a similar number of games for it. I gave it up as part of a breakup with a girlfriend. I've been debating buying a new one for a while. I suppose at the $20-30 range, there's no reason not to.
Anyone have a mirror? There are lots of alternate sites that used to allow me to log on to my Paypal account before anytime they'd email me about account problems.
If I remember correctly, the Exchange compatibility is only there if Outlook Web Access is turned on.
It's still an amazing feature, and could be an Outlook replacement - but it doesn't make use of the more closely guarded RPCs/caching/etc. that an Outlook/Exchange combo uses.
I was hoping to see some large-scale enterprise scenarios where Linux simply did not work - scenarios where it might make sense to put in a Windows solution. Something of substance.
These examples are terrible, and don't even begin to suggest that the issue is a Linux one.
From the article: "When one of our guests went over the limit, it crashed the whole store. We then had to manually identify the erroneous credit card charges."
This doesn't sound like a Linux issue, it sounds like a boundary check problem. It's ridiculous to propose that this could be an OS function, and they don't back this claim up with any useful substance.
From the article: Case said he was surprised by how well the system worked, but Linux became an issue when Combe's Web applications needed a database, and the only option available to the company was one from Oracle Corp.
What function of Oracle made it more useful than MySQL in this case? It's certainly a valid DB for Web Applications - even if Oracle might scale better.
These are some pretty baseless arguements for switching to Windows. This is essentially a public shaming of these companies.
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I bet it worked until you shoved that tape of Natalie Portman covered in hot grits into it.
You're that guy who's friends with all those people I know in Cleveland, including my ex-fiancee. Small world.
Netcraft confirms.....VHS is dead.
Excuse the inaccuracy.
I was recalling an old press release to appease stockholders towards the end of the tech downfall - discussing the internal changes ahead, et al.
I didn't have the historical perspective.
I remember a similar problem with Microsoft CRM. The idea of Microsoft making a CRM product rocked hardcore to those in a Microsoft Office environment with Great Plains products abound. The execution was terrible, and now it's an embarassment.
People LOVED the idea of Microsoft CRM. Solaris people are going to LOVE the idea of Open Source Solaris. But does anyone really believe Sun is going to do this right? Moreover, what would be the right way to take an existing commercial server product, open it up, and find a way to make more money off of it?
Perhaps if this move is successful, Sun would start abandoning hardware, and move towards a more services-based company - like the transition IBM started 2 years ago?
Frankly, an Open Source Solaris stands a better chance at killing Solaris than it does Linux.
The author starts the article by declaring "Let me start by saying that I'm not a technical expert. Although this might be a handicap it could very well be a positive in looking at the issue of Sun versus Linux in the server business from a decision maker's point of view." He's basically lost most of his credibility there, because a good decision maker needs to bring in technical people to explain this.
Though I understand the PHB philosophy of needing a brand name on their *nix product, I don't understand what's wrong with Red Hat or Novell now?
Moreover, it's setting itself up for patent lawsuits once the usual suspects start going through the newly open sourced code. Not that it's an agreeable method, but it's a fact of life.
The points the author makes are weak:
o The Solaris software is of proven quality and at least equal or better then Linux and the open source model will assure that it stays up there.
An open source model assures it of nothing, unless they get good contributors....but:
o Because Sun by default is the only designated party managing the open source software, there will be no risk of a version bonanza with multiple incompatible versions.
No risk of a version bonanza with multiple incompatible versions? Does this individual not recall that this is the company who had put out Java 2 (1.2) and Java 5 (1.5) before a real version 2?
o Sun has a proven reputation in terms of quality of support. This should be at least as good or better then that of the Linux supporters.
Sun's support isn't bad no, but IBM's been an awesome proponent of Linux - including Red Hat's 3.0 offering. Big names do know Linux, and work with you on it. Not to mention that Google is an awesome knowledge base for Linux users. And how much does it cost to search google vs. a support incident with Sun?
I don't buy that this will affect Linux's growth in the server market any more than the stray bullet SCO lawsuits. Open Source Solaris will definitely invite more hobbyist interest, but I don't understand why any of this makes it a more viable server product.
You're absolutely fortunate.
The Cleveland job market isn't very good, but opportunities are out there for the right people. I left earlier this year for Columbus, where opportunities were both more plentiful and better paying. I spent 5 years in the Cleveland market before I left, and had probably twice as many phonecalls from Columbus.
Now, I'm back living up in Cuyahoga Falls as I now work for a cool consulting firm. I imagine we'll probably look elsewhere once my girlfriend, who incidentally will be starting at Kent State in the Spring, finishes up school.
Congrats on finishing your masters and finding an opportunity as quick as you did.
Yesterday, I started noticing a price drop on the EA Sports games on all platforms, including PC. I assume this has to do with the ESPN/Sega NBA/NFL/NHL 2K5 games all at $19.99 and selling well.
They've dropped their prices at the EA website for $29.99 in an attempt to sell more units. I also imagine the NHL lockout is affecting their sales as well.
I wonder if the lower prices/quality alternatives from ESPN and SEGA impacted EA's labor practices for this year's games?
Call it a hunch, but I don't think these guys can take the smaller profit margins and make it up in large volume like Dell can.
The Windows desktop OS, when part of an OEM deal, isn't terribly expensive for the reseller - though it can range from $25-85. If you've ever compared buying a system with Windows vs. Linux (same model, et al.) - they don't give you much of a price break because they're trying to keep their margins intact.
So, to answer your question - no, it's almost irrelevant. Especially given that they have to customize the OS to run on the machine.
Great, but does it run Windows XP?
*ducks*
Actually, the prices looked extremely reasonable enough that I'm considering a purchase. The LC2410 is only $1499. The 2430, the one in the review, is only $1699.
I'm rather impressed they can have prices this reasonable, "Windows tax" or not. A similar Dell Inspiron 5160 (a "desktop replacement" as well) configured with WinXP runs around the same price ($1640, though they are offering a free wireless card now).
GREATEST! TROLL! EVER!
You've provoked so many people by coming over as a complete idiot. It's almost as though Bush himself made this post!
Well played!
You can pick apart ever part of every sentence I write, a lie is told knowingly, prove he lied and I'll eat my words. You can't know a mans thoughts.
i ddleeast/03tube.html?pagewanted=1&ei=5090&en=2e1cd cc5b66e0332&ex=1254456000&partner=rssuserl and He chose to believe this because it worked for him.
We are all fucking liers.
I could, couldn't I? Your statement of "We are all fucking liers (sic)" doesn't add anything to the credibility of what you're trying to say. It's not wrong, but it's not a trait I admire in a President.
Start here for the lies, or "embraced inaccurate intelligence": http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/03/international/m
You asked who could be president. One of the awesome things about this nation we love is that either of us could be president once we match the limited criteria. So, when you asked who amongst us could be president - I gave you the answer.
George W. Bush, certainly is not the best president that we have ever had but he is OUR GOD DAMN MOTHER FUCKING LEADER, SO LISTEN WITH A LITTLE BIT OF DIGNITY TO WHAT HE SAYS.
We did. He lied. Why millions of people look forward to doing it again is beyond me.
Who here can be president?
Those aged 35 or older, born as US citizens. Can't be a convicted felon.
The world brought the fight here!
No, the fight exists everywhere. The most prominent fight now is in Iraq. The largest is in Sudan.
Half your post was right. Getting into Canada is hard, but if you're that upset with how the nation is run - it's your best bet. That, or check out the EU. If you're unwilling to fight for what you want, either get new wants or a new country.
Oh, and Michael Jackson isn't a radical person hater. He just loves the children more than we'd care to hear about. He has plenty of respect for the world, as his fans are worldwide.
By now I realize I've fallen for a troll. At least I'm not wrong, though.
They also just finished rewriting their constitution in OpenOffice, and are using GNUCash for the nation's budget.
how the administration has been in dealing with the rest of the world (i.e. basically ignoring them)
Bombing and Threatening != ignore.
After all, you're either with us, or you're with the terrorists.
(+1, Informative).
Sorry, that's the most modding I can do. The DC Emulation stuff looks pretty cool. Thanks!
Yeah. I loved my DC. I had a similar number of games for it. I gave it up as part of a breakup with a girlfriend. I've been debating buying a new one for a while. I suppose at the $20-30 range, there's no reason not to.
Not likely. The main reason for this the broadband adapter is frequently selling for well over $100 on eBay.
That's not to say I don't like your solution - the Dreamcast is a cool platform.
It looks like you're trying to reset your Rio Karma. Would you like to:
(o) Purchase the new Apple iPod mini?
(o) Buy a partially-Microsoft owned Apple iPod?
(o) Get an iPod?
Anyone have a mirror? There are lots of alternate sites that used to allow me to log on to my Paypal account before anytime they'd email me about account problems.
If I remember correctly, the Exchange compatibility is only there if Outlook Web Access is turned on.
It's still an amazing feature, and could be an Outlook replacement - but it doesn't make use of the more closely guarded RPCs/caching/etc. that an Outlook/Exchange combo uses.
It's a French car. It just surrenders.
Database problem! Vi beklager meget.....
Great, this is going to start another vi vs. emacs debate, isn't it?
The grammar we're seeing in Slashdot article summaries has become similar to the Cialis ads I see in my mailbox.
So has the summary content, frankly. There's been more to do with product sales and enhancements of a commercial basis than I've ever seen.
Though I don't think I'd give it up outright, Slashdot is becoming a harder read lately.
I was hoping to see some large-scale enterprise scenarios where Linux simply did not work - scenarios where it might make sense to put in a Windows solution. Something of substance.
These examples are terrible, and don't even begin to suggest that the issue is a Linux one.
From the article:
"When one of our guests went over the limit, it crashed the whole store. We then had to manually identify the erroneous credit card charges."
This doesn't sound like a Linux issue, it sounds like a boundary check problem. It's ridiculous to propose that this could be an OS function, and they don't back this claim up with any useful substance.
From the article:
Case said he was surprised by how well the system worked, but Linux became an issue when Combe's Web applications needed a database, and the only option available to the company was one from Oracle Corp.
What function of Oracle made it more useful than MySQL in this case? It's certainly a valid DB for Web Applications - even if Oracle might scale better.
These are some pretty baseless arguements for switching to Windows. This is essentially a public shaming of these companies.
The same fate befell Prodigy, GoNetworks, and anyone else who DARED compete with AOL. :-(
Actually:
Prodigy first bought by SBC, and then rolled into the "SBC Yahoo" service when Yahoo's MCI partnership soured.
Go was bought by Disney, and is a portal for all their owned companies (ABC, ESPN, et al.)
Besides that, Mindspring and Earthlink are one company. Not EVERYONE was bought by AOL.