It all looks that all this crap only helps make customer experience worse than it should be, it certainly does not stop pirates.
I guess I don't have to place any link to prove that Sims2 is getting pirated as heck and this is certainly not stopping the torrents to appear.
As much as CD protection got heavier these days, I can still go to the street and find the latest games ready for 2$us. (This country is quite special, few got the broadband to download CDs, and pirated software is an street product like a hotdog or candy:)
A rational question is to ask "why also Novell"? Yes, we all know Novell and MS are buddies and all so this is a reason to think MS is not behind this lawsuit.
Imho what's going to happen is that Novell will be VERY collaborative and willing to accept to pay royalties for this BS patent, the game will be make Red Hat play alone. The expected aftermath (for MS-Novell) would be to make Red Hat look like a rogue company that does not respect IP. And yes, thanks to Novell the case will be much harder to solve for Red Hat than before, probably Novell will rush in making a deal so there's precedent...
Laugh at the ridiculous theory all you want, I just hope Novell does not prove me right on this one. But if they do, then I hope nobody will argue to me whose side Novell is playing for.
Err, if I had important and private things in my email, I would... encrypt it. badda bing.
How do I know MS does not read hotmail accounts' email? I cannot confirm or deny that.
Also, I find it very convenient only this part of his totally insane and offensive speech has been commented on slashdot, shouldn't we care more about the straw attacks towards open source or his wish that all open source had a windows task?
It is strange but I think 0.81% even if it was a correct statistic, is not a little, how many desktop computers do you have out there? I think softpedia is mostly a site that takes advantage of free licenses to redistribute software, I've seen it happen with things kde-apps.org and freshmeat, they get added to softpedia...
Excuse me, but I didn't get the memo in which the word "open" implied the ability to read it.
To me, the word "open" means it is.. err... open as in... I can "enter" it, and in the context of software this would mean I can actually make enter the market making a new product out of it or that I can enter the developers group, or I can enter... you see the point already, don't you? . Thus "open source" does mean what OSI says it means.
The way I see it, if ISO approves OOXML it would lose significance, then whatever format is standard will not mean anything at all, thus it won't matter that OOXML is an standard...
Novell has apparentally signed an interoperability (mostly patents) deal with MS, yet it looks like it is more about Novell working with MS or something, I mean, see these declarations! "It is unlikely in reality MS adopts ODF" , shouldn't Novell be... asking the partner to help them, you only see Novell implementing OOXML and nothing else, why is this deal working in only one direction?
This is also a prime example of where OSS fails too. How many basic users would be able to even compile a version with the altered code, let alone alter the codes themselves?
1 for each 1000.
Then this guy just releases a binary package with the fix. The other 999 guys use it. Congratulations!
This is a threat to open source, since Novell may just add duhbious terms to the drivers' licenses. Or purpotedly add MS code to them so they are the only ones able to legally distribute them.
Some stuff before the Novell apologists come to bash me:
Thanks to Novell's deal, the only distro able to legally include moonlight is SUSE enterprise, you are right, not even OpenSUSE, and they say moonlight is open source, sure it is licensed open source but due to 'patent issues' only novell can distribute it, Don't believe me? It is something that both Miguel Icaza and a Novell guy called Bruce have publically accepted, hope a google
Novell is now actively being a predator spreading FUD and lies about other distros and faking numbers to show how their "superior windows integration" (which is null) is a competitive advantage.
Novell has accepted MS' proposal of effectively turning Linux into a windows program, so that people can easily migrate their Linux servers to MS' servers, they have accepted that only Linux is going to be virtualized, and 0 virtualization of windows on Linux, Yeah, this is the "open source supporter" Novell, turning Linux into a second class operating system.
Novell is actually the only company that will support OOXML, oddly enough not even MS would support it if it was approved as an standard, fun?
Denying that Novell's deal is a threat is like denying water is composed of Hydrogen , if you prefer Novell over Linux and open source, friging accept it, but we are growing tired of people that keep their blind Novell fanboyism and pretend they do not want to destroy Linux for their own convenience, they want to make their own propietary, MS dependent OS out of open source projects.
So, please try defending the deal now, where it is clear Novell is actively FUDing against other distros and Microsoft is succeeding in the embrace part of the strategy.
If you want Linux's success go anything but Novell, if you want Novell's success and eventual dead + MS keeping the desktop monopoly go Novell, please, I don't want the apologists to ever say again that the deal was good for Linux, I am tired of reading BS.
Perhaps knowing how to save money and prevent unnecessary spendings was what allowed they to become a multi-billion dollar company in the first place...
Am I the only one who was clueless about what the subject of the story was when he read the title?
Anyways, I think this is a terrible idea.
Instead it should go like this:
No subsided discounts on software that is bundled in computers
Computer distributors forced by law to have an OS-less alternative for each model.
But forcing them not to ever include the OS will just piss a lot of users off, even though they are lame windows users they do deserve some empathy I guess...
Would be fun since they are not really MS-specific so if this idea gets executed it will be a no for Dell's ubuntu PCs and more enjoyable it will also screw Apple pretty badly...
Yeah, although I would say MS just lost a huge legal battle to the EU for doing much less than what apple is doing right now with the iphone and most importantly the ipod, we are locked in a single music store, music manager, etc. It is monopoly abuse.
Dunno about you but if you use open source software and open documents all is right, but there's no reason to keep paying for a "windows tax" in that case, a lot of people prefer open source but get locked into these proprietary operating systems for no more reason than a single software/hardware company that likes to pick platforms for their customers. We can only beat this by promoting an open source operating system, in this regards Linux, and a possible GPLed OpenSolaris are required, there is not much worth in open source if you still need to pay some tax to use them (windows' licensing...)
If you want gentoo use gentoo , If you want debian use debian, please don't expect every distro to follow your own ideas of the perfect distro and for god's sake, don't even think that your idea of the perfect distro should be considered dogma.
I think that as much as the author blames ubuntu for complacency out of popularity, the things the author is complaining about are not specific to this release which kind of destroys the whole article, as if the guy didn't know the things he is complaining about are exactly the reason ubuntu is so popular.
I RTFA this is a summary:
Installation : "Is easy, but I want it to be hard, complicated and specific"
Boot: "Grub doesn't show up when there are no choices to make! OMG that's profanity"
Desktop: "But man, I like fedora fonts" Side note: he says icons are too small at high resolutions which is probably huge BS.
Add-remove: "Look, I'll complaint about a gnome feature and blame ubuntu for it"
Security: "After so many ages ubuntu used sudo, I'll complaint about gutsy using sudo. And I'll demonstrate how little I understand of it and how much I ignore about sudo actually making things more secure" And accessible root account makes your computer less secure, sure people could initially give administrator priviledges to everyone in the family (this is a desktop computer, damnit!) but once they learn about it is as easy to remove sudo priviledges, it is also very easy to exchange the sudo priviledges and all without really having to give someone the root password...
Debian: "I want ubuntu to be debian and friking restrictive ubuntu won't let me convert it into debian by adding a bunch of overcomplicated options, for some reason I think that not willing to complicate the user for no reason is 'windows thinking' and I actually think it is a bad thing because Linux must be hard and punish the user with a lot of choices even for trivial things, even though I complained before about how ubuntu offered 3 ways to install software, this is a clear contradiction but I'll include it in the article"
Conclussion "I'll complaint about software that is in alpha stage calling it unpolished. I'll call things that aren't new in gutsy as proof ubuntu is dropping in quality. I don't understand that ubuntu's objective is to be easy for everyone and not to be overcomplicated and flexible like the distribution I like more."
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Am I the only one that finds it very hard to care about this?
It all looks that all this crap only helps make customer experience worse than it should be, it certainly does not stop pirates.
I guess I don't have to place any link to prove that Sims2 is getting pirated as heck and this is certainly not stopping the torrents to appear.
As much as CD protection got heavier these days, I can still go to the street and find the latest games ready for 2$us. (This country is quite special, few got the broadband to download CDs, and pirated software is an street product like a hotdog or candy :)
It all appears MS is making up a new SCO.
A rational question is to ask "why also Novell"? Yes, we all know Novell and MS are buddies and all so this is a reason to think MS is not behind this lawsuit.
Imho what's going to happen is that Novell will be VERY collaborative and willing to accept to pay royalties for this BS patent, the game will be make Red Hat play alone. The expected aftermath (for MS-Novell) would be to make Red Hat look like a rogue company that does not respect IP. And yes, thanks to Novell the case will be much harder to solve for Red Hat than before, probably Novell will rush in making a deal so there's precedent...
Laugh at the ridiculous theory all you want, I just hope Novell does not prove me right on this one. But if they do, then I hope nobody will argue to me whose side Novell is playing for.
No nine inch nails or radiohead? Huh, yay!!!1. Where do I sign to live in a world without the music labels?
How exactly does this help open source?
Err, if I had important and private things in my email, I would... encrypt it. badda bing.
How do I know MS does not read hotmail accounts' email? I cannot confirm or deny that.
Also, I find it very convenient only this part of his totally insane and offensive speech has been commented on slashdot, shouldn't we care more about the straw attacks towards open source or his wish that all open source had a windows task?
It is strange but I think 0.81% even if it was a correct statistic, is not a little, how many desktop computers do you have out there? I think softpedia is mostly a site that takes advantage of free licenses to redistribute software, I've seen it happen with things kde-apps.org and freshmeat, they get added to softpedia...
How would that help? Oh yes, more money for the RIAA great.
To me, the word "open" means it is .. err ... open as in... I can "enter" it, and in the context of software this would mean I can actually make enter the market making a new product out of it or that I can enter the developers group, or I can enter... you see the point already, don't you? . Thus "open source" does mean what OSI says it means.
The way I see it, if ISO approves OOXML it would lose significance, then whatever format is standard will not mean anything at all, thus it won't matter that OOXML is an standard...
Novell has apparentally signed an interoperability (mostly patents) deal with MS, yet it looks like it is more about Novell working with MS or something, I mean, see these declarations! "It is unlikely in reality MS adopts ODF" , shouldn't Novell be... asking the partner to help them, you only see Novell implementing OOXML and nothing else, why is this deal working in only one direction?
Then this guy just releases a binary package with the fix. The other 999 guys use it. Congratulations!
This is iPhone genuine advantage in action! It is a good thing for customers!
This is a threat to open source, since Novell may just add duhbious terms to the drivers' licenses. Or purpotedly add MS code to them so they are the only ones able to legally distribute them.
Some stuff before the Novell apologists come to bash me:
- Thanks to Novell's deal, the only distro able to legally include moonlight is SUSE enterprise, you are right, not even OpenSUSE, and they say moonlight is open source, sure it is licensed open source but due to 'patent issues' only novell can distribute it, Don't believe me? It is something that both Miguel Icaza and a Novell guy called Bruce have publically accepted, hope a google
- Novell is now actively being a predator spreading FUD and lies about other distros and faking numbers to show how their "superior windows integration" (which is null) is a competitive advantage.
- Novell has accepted MS' proposal of effectively turning Linux into a windows program, so that people can easily migrate their Linux servers to MS' servers, they have accepted that only Linux is going to be virtualized, and 0 virtualization of windows on Linux, Yeah, this is the "open source supporter" Novell, turning Linux into a second class operating system.
- Novell is actually the only company that will support OOXML, oddly enough not even MS would support it if it was approved as an standard, fun?
Denying that Novell's deal is a threat is like denying water is composed of Hydrogen , if you prefer Novell over Linux and open source, friging accept it, but we are growing tired of people that keep their blind Novell fanboyism and pretend they do not want to destroy Linux for their own convenience, they want to make their own propietary, MS dependent OS out of open source projects.So, please try defending the deal now, where it is clear Novell is actively FUDing against other distros and Microsoft is succeeding in the embrace part of the strategy.
If you want Linux's success go anything but Novell, if you want Novell's success and eventual dead + MS keeping the desktop monopoly go Novell, please, I don't want the apologists to ever say again that the deal was good for Linux, I am tired of reading BS.
"No error estimate was provided", I am not sure if this poll actually has happened, also could it be the 300 were mostly Novell's or other sold outs?
GPLv3 is getting quite a big quantity of new projects licensed into it, specially for a license that is less than a year old...
Perhaps knowing how to save money and prevent unnecessary spendings was what allowed they to become a multi-billion dollar company in the first place...
Am I the only one who was clueless about what the subject of the story was when he read the title?
Anyways, I think this is a terrible idea.
Instead it should go like this:
But forcing them not to ever include the OS will just piss a lot of users off, even though they are lame windows users they do deserve some empathy I guess...
Would be fun since they are not really MS-specific so if this idea gets executed it will be a no for Dell's ubuntu PCs and more enjoyable it will also screw Apple pretty badly...
Yeah, although I would say MS just lost a huge legal battle to the EU for doing much less than what apple is doing right now with the iphone and most importantly the ipod, we are locked in a single music store, music manager, etc. It is monopoly abuse.
I prefer PHP, but this sounds too FUDish to support...
Dunno about you but if you use open source software and open documents all is right, but there's no reason to keep paying for a "windows tax" in that case, a lot of people prefer open source but get locked into these proprietary operating systems for no more reason than a single software/hardware company that likes to pick platforms for their customers. We can only beat this by promoting an open source operating system, in this regards Linux, and a possible GPLed OpenSolaris are required, there is not much worth in open source if you still need to pay some tax to use them (windows' licensing...)
If you want gentoo use gentoo , If you want debian use debian, please don't expect every distro to follow your own ideas of the perfect distro and for god's sake, don't even think that your idea of the perfect distro should be considered dogma.
I think that as much as the author blames ubuntu for complacency out of popularity, the things the author is complaining about are not specific to this release which kind of destroys the whole article, as if the guy didn't know the things he is complaining about are exactly the reason ubuntu is so popular.
I RTFA this is a summary:
Color me unimpressed by this article.
The only reason windows is good at gaming is of inept companies that target only that platform.
shouldn't apple try to beat XP instead?