Profits are for big guys. If you manage to beat them at their own game you must be prepared to spend significant amount of your own proceedings on legal fees. It is still better that legal system in China - you bribe the wrong guy and you get portion of led into your head.
we do not draw line anywhere - the gov does it for us. The problem with this is that even if there are only good guys in the given gov that we have then still the possibility exists that evil guys get 'accidentally' elected and decide to stay. fighting the enemy that knows all is extremely difficult. This of course is not an argument against surveillance in general but something that should be considered on regular basis by citizens. We can already see that citizens are put under pressure, their views are not considered and friendly remonstrants are beaten up by the police and this not in NK but places like Italy (Genua 2001) or recently in Germany (Stuttgart 2010). How do you fight a state that has everything under control? Well you do not as it is too pointless.
As said - not an argument against CCTV but there is a problem there and not only there that the technology opened up and that should be resolved somehow. I do not know how but recognizing t hat there is a problem is the first step.
rehabilitation is only one aspect of justice system. There are others - making punishment as close to unavoidable as possible for instance makes future criminals think twice. This mechanism works quite well actually. Look at NK or Iran or any other great warrior for human rights etc for an example.
well whether the accused actually did something wrong is sadly rather irrelevant. The burden of the proof is on the accused which means heavy legal costs and unknown chance of winning. Better to settle down on some 'small' (well comparing with possible legal costs and also possible fine that could result from lost case) fine and hope this is not going to happen again. This is the choice majority will make. If minority of daring ones starts growing few cases that find their way into courts maybe enough to keep that in check. It is no-win situation for the accused. I guess the only thing that we citizens can do is by lubricants, bend if asked too and hope the unpleasant part does not last too long.
Well chances are then that judges award damages that are far beyond what French state can afford to pay which means they get nothing - better to go against single citizens - this makes (almost) everybody happy and part of the food chain:)
cut access means no money paid I can imagine? Could this mean that false accusations which are inevitable will cause ISPs to fight against this law due to lost business??? OTOH the way it works in Germany right now is that the whole burden of the proof is on the accused site with lawyers of the might recording industry being able to chose friendly courts all over the country thus increasing their own chances and costs for the opponents. I wonder where this ends?
I think you are patently wrong. I lived for number of years in soviet controlled countries (yes I am that old) and one thing I know for sure is that anything can be bought. If bribe is high enough you may even change the sequence into melody of 'stairway to heaven' or whatever suits you best.
and yet again a 'practical'/.-er - so how many of SUVs are actually driving with this many persons? I do not think anybody wants to strip anybody of their SUVs however silly possession of these vehicles is but the fact is the public transportation systems are in some cases better than individual ones.So what is your argument? That you would have to stand other human beings around you then - and HOW TERRIBLE possibly walk some small distances by foot!!! OMG you are going to die!!!
150/h??? That makes it more than twice per minute and you actually inhale all this and can do something? Well I was almost certain that Santa is dead and superman was a myth and there are no superhumans no more but obviously I was seriously mistaken as there are some and they are all on twitter.
I find it interesting how the twitter works and how human interactions look like there, all the same I see no reason why I should waste time there when I am already wasting time here and at work, club, pub etc. From what I see here I am not alone. But of course you are free to waste your time the way that makes most fun for you but please do not tell us that it makes your work easier and provides information that is not available anywhere, provides for world peace and cures cancer. At some point I may start having doubts if all the claims can really be true.
I think you are exaggerating a bit - I mean o terror - book reading, there is nothing worse than this. Especially the younger generation could simply charge you with unusual and cruel punishment thing....
Well there is a huge difference between no sound/sound and no color/color, 2d/3d on the other hand does not appeal to me this much as it does not add muchnew value but costs considerable more. OC I realize there is not much that you could do against it - it will be done anyway but I stopped going to the BSwood movies long time ago and I do not see how one more D is going to change that.
I would not use such a word other than as AC. Who knows they may misinterpret what you wanted to say and put you in jail together with all others......
if the guy is actually looking for a job and I do not see it from his post.
In any case I would imagine that having an ass for a boss is just a must otherwise we would not enjoy our get together with friends and colleagues so much:)
In any case the competition with young and younger from the great countries of India and China etc gets our jobs away only to the extent we let them. In corporation I work for currently there is constant drive to do things more cheaply. What we noticed however is that the 'cheap' countries are cheaper per hour but skills needed for the job are often lacking then and this makes projects more expensive (esp. if you have to do things twice) than as if they were done in expensive countries. The problem is not drive to do things inexpensively but constant quest to do things cheaply instead of doing things right. This 'strangely' increases costs. It is of course OT but I though I bring it up to enlighten a day.
the friendly operator will tell in perfect language of your choice how the page look like rendered by specified browser. If you are willing to pay extra they will send you a fax with display snapshot.
we may also need to state what 'use' means - I 'use' it because I was silly enough to make an account. I was annoyed enough not to frequent this site because of issues as in FA and because if I want to mail with my friends I do it with mail, if I want to talk with them I do it off line, etc etc. There was only one exception when I found it useful as I could keep contact with an old friend but that was offset by negative experiences of which one overwhelms all the others: software quality. Maybe because I worked in QA for years or maybe this is a flaw in my character (and reason I spent so many years in QA...) but when I see crappy till not usable interfaces I get annoyed. The bottom line: FB is in my eyes a waste of time. At/. at least we have working (most of the time) interfaces. I think popularity of FB says something about society and it is not a nice thing at all.....
How decadent Americans really are - so they have a problem with infrastructure that is falling apart and instead of fixing it they write software to predict where it happens (so that they can install a web come and get million hits on you tube ????). OTOH maybe it is not a decadence but a sign showing the real state of the country? Or is this a commie crime to try to fix infrastructure that serves all?
I wonder why this is not a problem in Germany? I mean I live here a dozen years now and I have heard about a lots of unexploded munitions from WWII but the problem with thick cast iron plates flying randomly over the frequented streets is not known to me. Obviously on the way to become undeveloped world we Europeans are again lagging behind US.
while I agree with your view I do not think US wants or can stop anybody anymore than they did stop commies from developing nukes etc. I would like them to be able to but I do not think that is doable. I only hope that Russians and Chinese have enough brains to stop supporting the maniacs in NK and Iran but alas I know it better than that to believe this will be done.
you mean there is an industry in UK except financial 'industry' ? That is indeed puzzling. More puzzling than the fact that computer scientist cannot find jobs - that meets with my expectations....
maybe but to truly detect the CCTV system must not only cover all areas but all citizens have to be easily recognizable by the system and their location easy to store and retrieve.
you are not aware of things like: diabetes or illnesses that people are born with
you ignored the fact that insurance companies make your arse ache every time you talk to them because they are either unregulated or they control the regulators
I tried t o keep the list concise but I guess you get the idea or? I accept of course that it is a question of opinion whether any country needs a system wide solution for the problem? There are things like health care where only the state can control the actors on the market as you as a patient have no power at all and need a fast solution usually so you are weak and your opponents are strong partially with your and your fellow citizens money... I am a simple engineer (not of the software variety though) and I see a system that failed or rather many different ones that failed in all different ways yet nobody tries to repair them instead abuse is thrown around ('evil socialists!' cry some, 'evil capitalists!' the other).
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The line is fuzzy only because it is smeared with big amounts of money.
Profits are for big guys. If you manage to beat them at their own game you must be prepared to spend significant amount of your own proceedings on legal fees. It is still better that legal system in China - you bribe the wrong guy and you get portion of led into your head.
As said - not an argument against CCTV but there is a problem there and not only there that the technology opened up and that should be resolved somehow. I do not know how but recognizing t hat there is a problem is the first step.
Just where did you get this idea that isolation is only about rehabilitation? It has always the deterrence effect even if not always strong enough.
rehabilitation is only one aspect of justice system. There are others - making punishment as close to unavoidable as possible for instance makes future criminals think twice. This mechanism works quite well actually. Look at NK or Iran or any other great warrior for human rights etc for an example.
well whether the accused actually did something wrong is sadly rather irrelevant. The burden of the proof is on the accused which means heavy legal costs and unknown chance of winning. Better to settle down on some 'small' (well comparing with possible legal costs and also possible fine that could result from lost case) fine and hope this is not going to happen again. This is the choice majority will make. If minority of daring ones starts growing few cases that find their way into courts maybe enough to keep that in check. It is no-win situation for the accused. I guess the only thing that we citizens can do is by lubricants, bend if asked too and hope the unpleasant part does not last too long.
Well chances are then that judges award damages that are far beyond what French state can afford to pay which means they get nothing - better to go against single citizens - this makes (almost) everybody happy and part of the food chain :)
cut access means no money paid I can imagine? Could this mean that false accusations which are inevitable will cause ISPs to fight against this law due to lost business??? OTOH the way it works in Germany right now is that the whole burden of the proof is on the accused site with lawyers of the might recording industry being able to chose friendly courts all over the country thus increasing their own chances and costs for the opponents. I wonder where this ends?
why cannot we bomb the guy out of existence? Ohh wait - have we not tried to do just this for few last years? Ohhhhh.....
I think you are patently wrong. I lived for number of years in soviet controlled countries (yes I am that old) and one thing I know for sure is that anything can be bought. If bribe is high enough you may even change the sequence into melody of 'stairway to heaven' or whatever suits you best.
and yet again a 'practical' /.-er - so how many of SUVs are actually driving with this many persons? I do not think anybody wants to strip anybody of their SUVs however silly possession of these vehicles is but the fact is the public transportation systems are in some cases better than individual ones.So what is your argument? That you would have to stand other human beings around you then - and HOW TERRIBLE possibly walk some small distances by foot!!! OMG you are going to die!!!
I find it interesting how the twitter works and how human interactions look like there, all the same I see no reason why I should waste time there when I am already wasting time here and at work, club, pub etc. From what I see here I am not alone. But of course you are free to waste your time the way that makes most fun for you but please do not tell us that it makes your work easier and provides information that is not available anywhere, provides for world peace and cures cancer. At some point I may start having doubts if all the claims can really be true.
I think you are exaggerating a bit - I mean o terror - book reading, there is nothing worse than this. Especially the younger generation could simply charge you with unusual and cruel punishment thing....
Well there is a huge difference between no sound/sound and no color/color, 2d/3d on the other hand does not appeal to me this much as it does not add muchnew value but costs considerable more. OC I realize there is not much that you could do against it - it will be done anyway but I stopped going to the BSwood movies long time ago and I do not see how one more D is going to change that.
they are all imposters anyway
I would not use such a word other than as AC. Who knows they may misinterpret what you wanted to say and put you in jail together with all others......
In any case I would imagine that having an ass for a boss is just a must otherwise we would not enjoy our get together with friends and colleagues so much :)
In any case the competition with young and younger from the great countries of India and China etc gets our jobs away only to the extent we let them. In corporation I work for currently there is constant drive to do things more cheaply. What we noticed however is that the 'cheap' countries are cheaper per hour but skills needed for the job are often lacking then and this makes projects more expensive (esp. if you have to do things twice) than as if they were done in expensive countries. The problem is not drive to do things inexpensively but constant quest to do things cheaply instead of doing things right. This 'strangely' increases costs. It is of course OT but I though I bring it up to enlighten a day.
the friendly operator will tell in perfect language of your choice how the page look like rendered by specified browser. If you are willing to pay extra they will send you a fax with display snapshot.
I think this is one of the few interesting posts in this thread indeed! Give'm more mod points folks!!!!
we may also need to state what 'use' means - I 'use' it because I was silly enough to make an account. I was annoyed enough not to frequent this site because of issues as in FA and because if I want to mail with my friends I do it with mail, if I want to talk with them I do it off line, etc etc. There was only one exception when I found it useful as I could keep contact with an old friend but that was offset by negative experiences of which one overwhelms all the others: software quality. Maybe because I worked in QA for years or maybe this is a flaw in my character (and reason I spent so many years in QA...) but when I see crappy till not usable interfaces I get annoyed. The bottom line: FB is in my eyes a waste of time. At /. at least we have working (most of the time) interfaces. I think popularity of FB says something about society and it is not a nice thing at all.....
I wonder why this is not a problem in Germany? I mean I live here a dozen years now and I have heard about a lots of unexploded munitions from WWII but the problem with thick cast iron plates flying randomly over the frequented streets is not known to me. Obviously on the way to become undeveloped world we Europeans are again lagging behind US.
while I agree with your view I do not think US wants or can stop anybody anymore than they did stop commies from developing nukes etc. I would like them to be able to but I do not think that is doable. I only hope that Russians and Chinese have enough brains to stop supporting the maniacs in NK and Iran but alas I know it better than that to believe this will be done.
you mean there is an industry in UK except financial 'industry' ? That is indeed puzzling. More puzzling than the fact that computer scientist cannot find jobs - that meets with my expectations....
maybe but to truly detect the CCTV system must not only cover all areas but all citizens have to be easily recognizable by the system and their location easy to store and retrieve.
I tried t o keep the list concise but I guess you get the idea or? I accept of course that it is a question of opinion whether any country needs a system wide solution for the problem? There are things like health care where only the state can control the actors on the market as you as a patient have no power at all and need a fast solution usually so you are weak and your opponents are strong partially with your and your fellow citizens money... I am a simple engineer (not of the software variety though) and I see a system that failed or rather many different ones that failed in all different ways yet nobody tries to repair them instead abuse is thrown around ('evil socialists!' cry some, 'evil capitalists!' the other).