I think gp meant also humans when s/he said 'other animals' and in this case we need no worry - in emergency we nuke the oceans or pee into them bypassing pee processing plants. I actually think that peeing is even better solution than nuking but that of course depends on individual preference.
Interesting - I am just wondering where this will go. At this moment the issues associated with quality of software and responsibility for damage done in case software has done unexpected is not protected at all unless said software is made on order where contracts usually regulate what happens when mishap occurs. At least some sort of best practice rules or certification that allows to sell to say hospitals etc. could be feasible.
I wonder also if such regulation should not require use of open standards of communication, open file formats etc. How widely such warranty requirement should go is another issue.
What wonders me too is what impact this could have on outsourcing and off-shoring of any activity to 'cheap' countries that is so prevalent last few years - looks like good prospects for QA specialists.
You mean there is a warranty on software products that is not actually meaningless and it comes from MS??? That would also mean MS is innovative on its own instead of buying technology it can abuse later on - I can only say wow things have changed while I did not look.
being an old fart I listen to deep purple, black sabbath, LD and such but also rollins band, or any good mather earth shaking listening sound, from time t o time I seed last.fm with isis & shellac and the like. I wash it occasionally with beer but then I stop working. Coding is anyway the smallest part but of course the only one that is visible at the end in the sense that all the hours that you spend on tools, design thoughts, prototyping etc are not there when product actually does its thing.
Just to put things straight - you think that it is in human capacity to know things for sure, to know things are absolutely safe etc??? Even this drilling in Basel - how certain that is that the quake would not have happened anyway even without this drilling exercise??? Human desire for explanation is insatiable of course as is our pattern searching need and that sometimes overwhelms our capacity in actually looking at these patterns and explanations with critical eye i.e. taken into account all limitations that they come with. I would say technology gets improved, reasons and explanations are provided and quakes happen anyway. You may however look at this in the following way: longer it takes between the quakes bigger they are as the tension and amassed energy ready to be released is bigger. From this perspective maybe they should have started their drilling already dozen of years ago?
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I suppose engineering approach i.e based on merits would not work here and the reason is simple: this is one of t he two remaining guilds in modern world (the other one being lawyers) and thus any change has t o come from within. If the change is perceived as a cost and burned or even threat then it is not going to happen. Unless that is the system collapses under its weight of its own fat.
If you knew Cobol at this hilarious time then you do not have to work anymore unless of course you were silly enough to work as a salary man instead of consulting for good money.
If you are right there may be a cascade of converters to run and lucrative converters market full of consultants. If things go really ugly the more conversions are done more skills will be needed to find out why converted code malfunctions. These skills could possibly even include cobol just in case one has to look at original to find out ow did it work when it did:)
Fascinating - you drew comparison between queen of England whose role is mostly to read the speeches of prime minister and look nicly on the pictures and whose country has actual (albeit not very respected of late) democracy with this sorry excuse for democracy Iran actually is? What I find even more funny somebody at/. actually thought this sort of comparison is informative??? Halo - this could be interesting but informative????
I find this whole excitement is bit overblown as whoever wins nothing will change: Iran will still pursue its nuclear dream,it will still support Hezbollah and mullahs will continue to have a say in almost anything.
Smilar applies to telco equipment - there is no telco infrastructure operator that does not have this capability which for a good reason is called legal requirement or legal interception. People generally but geeks are specially affected by this misconception that tools are either the only solution or the main root of evil whereas the problem lies in what authorities do with those tools. The said features of telecom networks are used mainly to combat criminality. They can also be used to fight movements that want to have more freedom, clean air or watch kiddies pr0n (whatever actual definition of that is). What really matters is whether citizens like you and me care to know and fight the authorities and criminals abusing these and other tools for purposes that do not serve the society at large. In some cases such stand up and speak up attitude can be very dangerous - but that is nature of freedom: one has to fight it every day and with a bit of luck the only bad consequence is lost free time, once you stop doing it in hope the freedom is achieved exactly at this point a danger starts. But I guess Iranians are not there yet.
As a side note : at times there are even voices claiming that human rights are not universal - that is of course true - obviously there are people with interests that are in direct conflict with such ideas like democracy etc.The question is - can for instance people in Iran achieve better Islamic Republic with Revolutionary guards and big Mullahs on top of political structure and at the same time enjoy what they deem worth enjoying, do what they perceive worth doing etc - I suppose there is a balance somewhere but I do not think people's wish to do what they please as long as they do not physically disturb others are compatible with current system in Iran and small reforms would not help here either.
why it has to be dichotomy? I think there is place for both worlds even if some think not (owners of polaroid did not even consider selling right even if there were buyers interested in keeping production). As for digital world being definetly lost I think that is a nonsense - I have digital photos of my wedding, of my growing children etc. and they are great because we could select dozens from hundreds (or rather hundreds from thousands) - but they are all on paper now. The hand made wedding book is filled up with a properly made copies and children photos are printed in a dozen of issues each year by a company doing it in small series on basis of digital photos. While I think there is this strange disparity between your worst nightmare traces left forever in internet where you cannot even delete them and your precious photos lost because medium failure (whether physical or only due to unavailable format decoders etc) I think digital revolution has brought massive advantage in making photos while paper (or plastic) copies still remain - how nice, even funny as predictions of some silly fanatics of the 'new' failed to see the obvious i.e. that people want values and have no interest in technology itself:photo however made is a valuable artifact and it (almost) does not matter how it is made.
One can see it also from another angle - they obviously can afford such 'appalling complexity' and obscure structures and pay the consequences or otherwise they would have fixed it already. I have impression that if the money source dries out the payroll system problem may get resolved in no time together with some other problems (none of them really having to do with technology and software) this university obviously has.
There is no magic there - energy comes from somewhere. Unless this whole exercise is done when vehicles break (speed bumpers?) then it is just a tax on those driving there. It may be small but it does not mean it is not there.
Maybe the security really should cost more. I do not mean throwing money at the problem in hope it goes away but any reasonable security system will costs money - for audits and for implementation of findings etc. Maybe exactly that was a problem - TFA does not say exactly why they sue - maybe they know the auditors failed to inform them about something or they just want to fork the costs of the security breach and its repair.
sounds like description of majority of financial institutions to me. However 'not producing anything' is not necessarily a bad thing - services work that way and as long as there are customers willing to pay for the service it is fine. The problem is if one branch of economy bubbles out of proportions and creates inbalances which make the economy crash - lawyers and wizards of finance are two such examples in western world.
I think the important issue from GP post is that GM is merely a side effect of more general problem US (and to less extent UK) economy has - they let the finance industry grow without any limits and it did grow to the point that it was more reasonable to invest in snake oil eeeee virtual financial products 'decoupled' from reality then into something real. The consequence as could have been expected was the demise of other industries and growing of bubbles wherever virtual wealth tried to become real exactly as if finance were affected by malicious cancer. Now we have a problem apparently the biggest economy in the world is seriously sick. The finance part of it albeit sick too is still considered better place to invest money than local finance industry in china for instance. I wonder what happens when inevitable change in perception occurs.
You mean the only reason a country should not outsource all of its industry abroad and live off of financial wizardry is that it is difficult to buy tanks from enemy when one needs them?
A basic tool for creating a model is this or at least it should be - it would be cheaper that way.
Me also thinks that a swim test could do some good too - who can walk on the water can also earn handsomely in the world of finance if not then well - life is full or risks I see no reason why is it only the tax payer that has to carry the risk for them.
That statement about profitability is most likely wrong. Not because the whole operation is profitable but because the subsidy is indirect. At least in Europe it seems to be - the costs of nuclear waste disposal and especially transport of said waste include costs of massive security operations. The problem is also with left overs after the power plant stops active operation. One must not forget also all the costs associated with preparations for the worst case scenario (this of course is partially offset by the fact that you have to prepare yourself for attack by nuclear armed nutcases of any sort).
Just to avoid misunderstanding - I am not against fission or fusion reactors and research done to make them work but I do not think that current policies to subsidize the operations in a rather hidden way are no good.
While for/.ers living in seclusion of parents' house basement may be true the rest of your theory (about seeking companionship) is probably less applicable. The article specifically underlines certain way 'computer gaming' in particular makes you addictive. Granted that you have to be at least interested in games in the first place but what happens next is another thing. Psychologist I saw once in tely claimed that by ensuring small steps (levels) and getting rewards after passing each is the best way to achieve addiction especially if really unpredictable and unpleasant things like death or prosecution are excluded from virtual world (in this sense you can start your 'life' anew if things go terrible wrong). That seems to be the same as what TFA claims.
no you do not IDE to do that or to put it differently - Emacs is an IDE - it allows to edit, compile and in some cases debug code of (almost) arbitrary size and structure. One can even consider vi as a part of IDE with command line compilers and other tools. You may not consider such environment as integrated but that is your perspective - others have different one.
if you watch the news it is still easier to find somebody to bring the briefcase with explosives (or a truck of it for a good measure) and engage the ignition than to build and operate the drone.
Could this mean that Hezbollah is losing the war over souls or are t he drones not infallible enough?
That is indeed true at least to some extent. One may think that open (that is usually synonymous to democratic but it is not the same) societies have always advantage over authoritarian ones but that is not the case - Chile under Pinochet is one such example - they were able to raise from misery into some sort of stability (if there is such a thing) under heavy handed government. Economical progress was much worse in biggest democracy of them all - India. The same could be seen in eastern Europe after the IIWW - there too regimes succeeded originally only to stagnate and fail at the end.
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I think gp meant also humans when s/he said 'other animals' and in this case we need no worry - in emergency we nuke the oceans or pee into them bypassing pee processing plants. I actually think that peeing is even better solution than nuking but that of course depends on individual preference.
I wonder also if such regulation should not require use of open standards of communication, open file formats etc. How widely such warranty requirement should go is another issue.
What wonders me too is what impact this could have on outsourcing and off-shoring of any activity to 'cheap' countries that is so prevalent last few years - looks like good prospects for QA specialists.
How is parent's post a troll's work? Can a moderator modify this - at least informative for the link?
You mean there is a warranty on software products that is not actually meaningless and it comes from MS??? That would also mean MS is innovative on its own instead of buying technology it can abuse later on - I can only say wow things have changed while I did not look.
being an old fart I listen to deep purple, black sabbath, LD and such but also rollins band, or any good mather earth shaking listening sound, from time t o time I seed last.fm with isis & shellac and the like. I wash it occasionally with beer but then I stop working. Coding is anyway the smallest part but of course the only one that is visible at the end in the sense that all the hours that you spend on tools, design thoughts, prototyping etc are not there when product actually does its thing.
Just to put things straight - you think that it is in human capacity to know things for sure, to know things are absolutely safe etc??? Even this drilling in Basel - how certain that is that the quake would not have happened anyway even without this drilling exercise??? Human desire for explanation is insatiable of course as is our pattern searching need and that sometimes overwhelms our capacity in actually looking at these patterns and explanations with critical eye i.e. taken into account all limitations that they come with. I would say technology gets improved, reasons and explanations are provided and quakes happen anyway. You may however look at this in the following way: longer it takes between the quakes bigger they are as the tension and amassed energy ready to be released is bigger. From this perspective maybe they should have started their drilling already dozen of years ago?
I suppose engineering approach i.e based on merits would not work here and the reason is simple: this is one of t he two remaining guilds in modern world (the other one being lawyers) and thus any change has t o come from within. If the change is perceived as a cost and burned or even threat then it is not going to happen. Unless that is the system collapses under its weight of its own fat.
If you knew Cobol at this hilarious time then you do not have to work anymore unless of course you were silly enough to work as a salary man instead of consulting for good money.
If you are right there may be a cascade of converters to run and lucrative converters market full of consultants. If things go really ugly the more conversions are done more skills will be needed to find out why converted code malfunctions. These skills could possibly even include cobol just in case one has to look at original to find out ow did it work when it did:)
I find this whole excitement is bit overblown as whoever wins nothing will change: Iran will still pursue its nuclear dream,it will still support Hezbollah and mullahs will continue to have a say in almost anything.
As a side note : at times there are even voices claiming that human rights are not universal - that is of course true - obviously there are people with interests that are in direct conflict with such ideas like democracy etc.The question is - can for instance people in Iran achieve better Islamic Republic with Revolutionary guards and big Mullahs on top of political structure and at the same time enjoy what they deem worth enjoying, do what they perceive worth doing etc - I suppose there is a balance somewhere but I do not think people's wish to do what they please as long as they do not physically disturb others are compatible with current system in Iran and small reforms would not help here either.
why it has to be dichotomy? I think there is place for both worlds even if some think not (owners of polaroid did not even consider selling right even if there were buyers interested in keeping production). As for digital world being definetly lost I think that is a nonsense - I have digital photos of my wedding, of my growing children etc. and they are great because we could select dozens from hundreds (or rather hundreds from thousands) - but they are all on paper now. The hand made wedding book is filled up with a properly made copies and children photos are printed in a dozen of issues each year by a company doing it in small series on basis of digital photos. While I think there is this strange disparity between your worst nightmare traces left forever in internet where you cannot even delete them and your precious photos lost because medium failure (whether physical or only due to unavailable format decoders etc) I think digital revolution has brought massive advantage in making photos while paper (or plastic) copies still remain - how nice, even funny as predictions of some silly fanatics of the 'new' failed to see the obvious i.e. that people want values and have no interest in technology itself:photo however made is a valuable artifact and it (almost) does not matter how it is made.
One can see it also from another angle - they obviously can afford such 'appalling complexity' and obscure structures and pay the consequences or otherwise they would have fixed it already. I have impression that if the money source dries out the payroll system problem may get resolved in no time together with some other problems (none of them really having to do with technology and software) this university obviously has.
There is no magic there - energy comes from somewhere. Unless this whole exercise is done when vehicles break (speed bumpers?) then it is just a tax on those driving there. It may be small but it does not mean it is not there.
Maybe the security really should cost more. I do not mean throwing money at the problem in hope it goes away but any reasonable security system will costs money - for audits and for implementation of findings etc. Maybe exactly that was a problem - TFA does not say exactly why they sue - maybe they know the auditors failed to inform them about something or they just want to fork the costs of the security breach and its repair.
sounds like description of majority of financial institutions to me. However 'not producing anything' is not necessarily a bad thing - services work that way and as long as there are customers willing to pay for the service it is fine. The problem is if one branch of economy bubbles out of proportions and creates inbalances which make the economy crash - lawyers and wizards of finance are two such examples in western world.
I think the important issue from GP post is that GM is merely a side effect of more general problem US (and to less extent UK) economy has - they let the finance industry grow without any limits and it did grow to the point that it was more reasonable to invest in snake oil eeeee virtual financial products 'decoupled' from reality then into something real. The consequence as could have been expected was the demise of other industries and growing of bubbles wherever virtual wealth tried to become real exactly as if finance were affected by malicious cancer. Now we have a problem apparently the biggest economy in the world is seriously sick. The finance part of it albeit sick too is still considered better place to invest money than local finance industry in china for instance. I wonder what happens when inevitable change in perception occurs.
You mean the only reason a country should not outsource all of its industry abroad and live off of financial wizardry is that it is difficult to buy tanks from enemy when one needs them?
Me also thinks that a swim test could do some good too - who can walk on the water can also earn handsomely in the world of finance if not then well - life is full or risks I see no reason why is it only the tax payer that has to carry the risk for them.
That statement about profitability is most likely wrong. Not because the whole operation is profitable but because the subsidy is indirect. At least in Europe it seems to be - the costs of nuclear waste disposal and especially transport of said waste include costs of massive security operations. The problem is also with left overs after the power plant stops active operation. One must not forget also all the costs associated with preparations for the worst case scenario (this of course is partially offset by the fact that you have to prepare yourself for attack by nuclear armed nutcases of any sort). Just to avoid misunderstanding - I am not against fission or fusion reactors and research done to make them work but I do not think that current policies to subsidize the operations in a rather hidden way are no good.
While for /.ers living in seclusion of parents' house basement may be true the rest of your theory (about seeking companionship) is probably less applicable. The article specifically underlines certain way 'computer gaming' in particular makes you addictive. Granted that you have to be at least interested in games in the first place but what happens next is another thing. Psychologist I saw once in tely claimed that by ensuring small steps (levels) and getting rewards after passing each is the best way to achieve addiction especially if really unpredictable and unpleasant things like death or prosecution are excluded from virtual world (in this sense you can start your 'life' anew if things go terrible wrong). That seems to be the same as what TFA claims.
no you do not IDE to do that or to put it differently - Emacs is an IDE - it allows to edit, compile and in some cases debug code of (almost) arbitrary size and structure. One can even consider vi as a part of IDE with command line compilers and other tools. You may not consider such environment as integrated but that is your perspective - others have different one.
give the parent mod points for he is speaking the words of wisdom!
Could this mean that Hezbollah is losing the war over souls or are t he drones not infallible enough?
That is indeed true at least to some extent. One may think that open (that is usually synonymous to democratic but it is not the same) societies have always advantage over authoritarian ones but that is not the case - Chile under Pinochet is one such example - they were able to raise from misery into some sort of stability (if there is such a thing) under heavy handed government. Economical progress was much worse in biggest democracy of them all - India. The same could be seen in eastern Europe after the IIWW - there too regimes succeeded originally only to stagnate and fail at the end.