They've realised their mistake alright, but they still haven't fixed it completely yet. I literally took this screenshot right now for the purpose of this post (and I realise that I'm giving away a lot of extra info in it)
As well as the usual, I think if I were from New York I wouldn't be too happy about the idea of some law firm simply deciding that I, as a member of the public, had had emotional distress inflicted upon me.
Okay, judging by your inability to punctuate properly, your use of the phrase "me thinks" and your inability to digest a simple point, you're not the sharpest tool in the box. So here's an explanation you might understand.
Summary implies that Java is important, and that bundling it will benefit me:
It looks like the days of downloading Java every time you re-install a Linux box may be at an end.
I say that I don't find the issue cited in the summary to be a problem:
I've never installed Java on a Linux box......never come across the need to.
and hint that I'd like to know why it is:
I'm open to being convinced that it's useful
Moron comes along and focuses entirely on the title of my post, simultaneously missing its meaning completely:
If you really don't care, why are you posting here? Me thinks secretly you must care a lot.
I post a final explanation to hopefully shut said moron up (this bit is new!):
It's pretty fucking obvious that I'm interested in Java's usefulness, so stop pretending that I said I'm not. What I don't care about is the main story, the license change, as in this part "Reports are trickling in that Sun plans to alter the Java license "
Why did it take the makers so long to shake up the can? Industry executives blame an over-emphasis on cost cutting and a series of mergers throughout the past two decades, which kept the industry's focus on integrating companies, not tweaking their products. "The business model for cans has been, for some years, 'increase production and reduce cost,' " said Ben Miyares, vice president of industry relations at the Packaging Machinery Manufacturers Institute, a trade group. "If you were thinking of innovating, the response, almost universally, was 'only if it does not cost more.' "
Ladies and gentlemen... err.. I mean.. Gentlemen! I give you your explanation!
I know it's been said before, but it's still shocking that it isn't seen as the main issue. Seriously, I don't give a shit about the quality of the service compared to Skype. If Toyota started selling petrol, the issue wouldn't be the quality of the petrol, it'd be "OMG TOYOTA IS SELLING PETROL". This is little different. Similarly, if Hitachi created its own TV channel, I wouldn't be asking how good the programs were, I'd be mentally noting not to buy any Hitachi equipment.
This is a huge conflict of interests for AOL (as is their coming MySpace competitor), and this sort of thing is exactly what's fuelling the "tiered internet" bullshit. Start calling these things as they appear or you'll never catch them in time.
Wow, what an interesting and insightful remark that isn't in the least bit unoriginal, redundant or hackneyed by overuse in the dozens of preceding discussions.
Then again, the subject itself is getting pretty old. Maybe there's nothing left to do but to rehash the same old boring crap?
Developers for the likes of Red Hat get paid for writing GPL software. Distro vendors make their money reselling GPL software. Open Source is commercial, not some ideological Star Trek project to free us from money. You don't help it by comparing it to religion.
Not everything has to be looked at in terms of OMG ZEALOTS. This has fuck all to do with Linux or XP, and everything to do with people trying to be careful with their money.
has more than one syllable, sounds like an acutal product name instead of a squeal, and has some 'character' to it
Most of the examples you give don't return false if you take all the conditions into account like a good little parser. And anyway, many of those are nonstandard abbreviations.
HAHA, stupid PlayStation owners. Everyone knows that movies are screened indoors.
But seriously, why the troll spin on that? Contrasting an affinity for gadgets with a predisposition to "going outside" is pretty inflammatory, given the target audience (us), and I'm hard pressed to believe that it was accidental.
This is the most insightful post in the entire page. A much smarter use of time than my rant. It won't be getting modded up, because of the recent influx of self-important Windows converts, who now hold considerable influence both on Slashdot and in the wider community.
Unfortunately, most of us (yes, us: I'm one of these new converts) haven't made the mental transition from a user-oriented environment to a developer-oriented environment. Many still insist on making these little demands, as if they were customers in a supermarket.
The saddest part is that it's similar to standing in the dairy products aisle and complaining loudly that this store doesn't stock meat. Distros like OpenSUSE are easy to configure and use. For the most part they don't even require any configuration, except for the five minutes spent sidestepping the effects of the greed of the likes of the mp3 patent holders and the MPAA.
Yeah, it seems to be quite subjective. God only knows how...
I had a Yahoo account which I deliberately seeded around things like guestbooks, and most of the spam it receives beats the filters. My normal GMail account gets similar amounts of spam, and a few per week beat the filter. Back when I used Hotmail, only the spam sent by the big names like Amazon and Ebay got through - very suspicious. It was my suspicions that MS was being paid off that finally drove me to GMail, which correctly identifies those same messages as spam.
Is it really that hard to count to zero? Stop lying fanboy, it's embarassing to watch.
Sorry, dear coward, I'll give it a go for your benefit. The specific example of lspci*, I've probably done about half a dozen times, maybe less. Other things, like using a working Linux partition to retrieve network drivers for Windows, are much more common.
It's funny, people always post anonymously when they think they're being really clever and cruel, and that they're going to destroy you psychologically with their cutting remarks. No really, it's funny just how pitiful it is.
* Since posting that comment I've learned that Windows does know the hardware information, somewhere in the registry, so I won't be doing this trick any more
Part of the fraud problem is the simplicity in the client display. If Outlook Express and Thunderbird sometimes said "Hey wait a minute there's more to this...", instead of rigidly sticking to displaying an address, the problem would be mostly avoided.
A blog entry about Linux being too hard to use? What the hell is this? It's not even well written. At a glance it just looks like a mass of the word FOSS over and over.
When the FOSS community finally releases a FOSS OS that is as easy to install and use as any proprietary OS, users will have no trouble moving to this FOSS OS since the programs they know and love will run on it.
This doesn't even make any sense. How the fuck does the second part follow from the first part?
Users who use and run FOSS programs on Windows do not have to concern themselves with driver issues and other technical mumbo-jumbo.
This is complete bullshit. I can't count the number of times I've had to have people do weird shit like boot a LiveCD just to run lspci, because Windows doesn't support any of their hardware, and can't even retrieve the vendor information hardcoded into it so as they can find their own drivers.
A normal user wants everything to work out-of-the-box. This is especially true in developing countries where a computer costs more than a month's salary.
More bullshit. If you don't have the money, you'll either put the work into learning how to use it as you would with a car, or you'll pirate a copy of Windows, and put the exact same amount of work into learning.
No more blog entries please.
And anyway, there is already a "FOSS OS that is as easy to install and use as any proprietary OS", it's called OpenSUSE. It's the easiest thing I've ever used in my life, though it was bloaty and I eventually got sick of it and came back to Slackware.
Actually it will. Yes/maybe/no tags are incredibly useful, in fact. Want to find out what Slashdotters believe in? Search for articles tagged "yes". For what they don't believe in, search for "no". And for things they don't agree on, search for "yes" and "no".
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They've realised their mistake alright, but they still haven't fixed it completely yet. I literally took this screenshot right now for the purpose of this post (and I realise that I'm giving away a lot of extra info in it)
As well as the usual, I think if I were from New York I wouldn't be too happy about the idea of some law firm simply deciding that I, as a member of the public, had had emotional distress inflicted upon me.
Summary implies that Java is important, and that bundling it will benefit me:
I say that I don't find the issue cited in the summary to be a problem:and hint that I'd like to know why it is:Moron comes along and focuses entirely on the title of my post, simultaneously missing its meaning completely:I post a final explanation to hopefully shut said moron up (this bit is new!):I'm open to being convinced that it's useful, but so far I haven't needed it at all.
Ladies and gentlemen... err.. I mean.. Gentlemen! I give you your explanation!
I know it's been said before, but it's still shocking that it isn't seen as the main issue. Seriously, I don't give a shit about the quality of the service compared to Skype. If Toyota started selling petrol, the issue wouldn't be the quality of the petrol, it'd be "OMG TOYOTA IS SELLING PETROL". This is little different. Similarly, if Hitachi created its own TV channel, I wouldn't be asking how good the programs were, I'd be mentally noting not to buy any Hitachi equipment.
This is a huge conflict of interests for AOL (as is their coming MySpace competitor), and this sort of thing is exactly what's fuelling the "tiered internet" bullshit. Start calling these things as they appear or you'll never catch them in time.
Then again, the subject itself is getting pretty old. Maybe there's nothing left to do but to rehash the same old boring crap?
Developers for the likes of Red Hat get paid for writing GPL software. Distro vendors make their money reselling GPL software. Open Source is commercial, not some ideological Star Trek project to free us from money. You don't help it by comparing it to religion.
Whoa! I'm not reading that crap. Summarise it in one word.
If he bothers you again, somehow get him to visit this site. Last time I tested it in IE, it BSODed the computer. Now that's what I call a DOS!
50 hours per week is a lot?
I don't think they are.
Not everything has to be looked at in terms of OMG ZEALOTS. This has fuck all to do with Linux or XP, and everything to do with people trying to be careful with their money.
But seriously, why the troll spin on that? Contrasting an affinity for gadgets with a predisposition to "going outside" is pretty inflammatory, given the target audience (us), and I'm hard pressed to believe that it was accidental.
Unfortunately, most of us (yes, us: I'm one of these new converts) haven't made the mental transition from a user-oriented environment to a developer-oriented environment. Many still insist on making these little demands, as if they were customers in a supermarket.
The saddest part is that it's similar to standing in the dairy products aisle and complaining loudly that this store doesn't stock meat. Distros like OpenSUSE are easy to configure and use. For the most part they don't even require any configuration, except for the five minutes spent sidestepping the effects of the greed of the likes of the mp3 patent holders and the MPAA.
I had a Yahoo account which I deliberately seeded around things like guestbooks, and most of the spam it receives beats the filters. My normal GMail account gets similar amounts of spam, and a few per week beat the filter. Back when I used Hotmail, only the spam sent by the big names like Amazon and Ebay got through - very suspicious. It was my suspicions that MS was being paid off that finally drove me to GMail, which correctly identifies those same messages as spam.
Doesn't this piss you off? Doesn't it make you want to declare War on Spam, in the time-honoured fashion of the Bush Administration(TM)?
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It's funny, people always post anonymously when they think they're being really clever and cruel, and that they're going to destroy you psychologically with their cutting remarks. No really, it's funny just how pitiful it is.
* Since posting that comment I've learned that Windows does know the hardware information, somewhere in the registry, so I won't be doing this trick any more
Fortunately anti-phishing is becoming a buzzword.
No more blog entries please.
And anyway, there is already a "FOSS OS that is as easy to install and use as any proprietary OS", it's called OpenSUSE. It's the easiest thing I've ever used in my life, though it was bloaty and I eventually got sick of it and came back to Slackware.
Actually it will. Yes/maybe/no tags are incredibly useful, in fact. Want to find out what Slashdotters believe in? Search for articles tagged "yes". For what they don't believe in, search for "no". And for things they don't agree on, search for "yes" and "no".
Your definition of Open Source was too liberal to begin with. Even the Linux kernel is developed in the way you've just described.