Yes, you do seem to be operating under a misconception. Many internships are not paid. Or you could say the pay is the experience. It might be that most I/T internships are paid, but maybe that is changing now.
That will just lead to the same brain-dead, knee-jerk posts. By having a delay, people may actually read the story and compose a thoughtful post for when commenting opens up.
Standard argument in favor of price discrimination
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(This is something I saw recently in a presentation that I thought was interesting.)
Alan is willing to write a report about something, say electronic money, if he can make $1500 on it.
Betty is willing to pay $1000 for the report.
Charlie is willing to pay $700 for the report.
If Alan were to charge $700, both people would buy the report, but he wouldn't make his $1500 so he wouldn't produce it.
How about instead, he charges:
Betty $950
Charlie $650
Now both customers get a price break from what they were willing to pay, and Alan gets an additional $100. And something of value was created that otherwise might not have been. So is this a good thing?
Let's not forget the Nose Blowing maneuver, where you hope for some loose nuggets that will rattle around and make a convincing sound as they come out.
Gardner Dozois, the editor of Asimov's SF magazine, puts out a collection every year. There is also the L. Ron Hubbard "Writer's of the Future." I know some people will object because of his name, but it's a great contest and the judges are all big names in SF, and you really get your cutting edge new writers.
It does not matter what content inspection approach you try. They all suffer from the fact that as the number of people who have access to your filter grows so does the incentive to test against the filter and shape their content to get through.
But they don't have access to my filter. My filter is unique with regard to the messages I've labeled as "good" or "bad."
I'm not saying that Bayesian filtering is the ultimate solution, but if widely deployed and used it could be harmful enough to spammers to reduce their activity.
The MIT conference is likely to be a failure because the organizers are only presenting the tried and failed filtering approaches of the past. Those approaches are now well understood, they can mitigate the problem but can never do more than that. Filters suffer from reverse network effects, the more widely used they are the greater the incentive to program arround them.
I think they will talk a lot about using Bayes, which I don't think has been widely tried with respect to email filtering.
Spammers are already trying work arounds to get past statistical filtering, but I don't know if they'll be as successful.
Spam with images? They'll have to embed them in html which is itself a red flag.
Like Paul Graham said in that article, the spammers can't hide their message very well.
Is this "published" just because he put it up on his website and told people about it, or will it actually be published in a journal somewhere?
Yes, putting something on the web constitutes publication.
Now whether it is of value is another matter altogether, and something you have to evaluate for any published material, whether on the web, in a journal, or elsewhere.
How much is cell phone service in the UK? I pay $15 a month in the US. That's for only 60 minutes during the week and 250 on weekends, but I never come close to using up my minutes. (And if you're talking about it as a replacement for payphone dependence, that should be more than enough.)
Can't speak for reliability differences. My service is reliable enough for me, but I don't have any basis for comparison.
Yeah! I seem to remember in one episode they were having all kinds of fights over the phone so they installed a pay phone.
Didn't Mr. Brady have some kind of business call where he kept running out of money? And he was horribly embarrassed and mad maybe, but when he explained it the business partner understood and everything was happy? (Good thing the phone didn't queer the deal:-)
What, if a story isn't packed with a blow-by-blow technical orgy, it doesn't have any "real information?" This story has lots of good stuff. Thanks for the link.
When I read about new toolbar customization I got excited, but I still don't see where you can add and remove icons from the navigation toolbar. I like to keep things as compact as possible, so the default back, forward, reload, and stop buttons inline with address box are just fine, but I'd also like the home button up there. It seems like this would be an easy thing to copy from Internet Explorer.
I always said no also, but the thing is, it creates minor awkwardness. I'd just like to do the simple transaction without rebuffing their data mining efforts.
Sounds similar to my setup. I have a 60GB drive on my 2nd floor workstation and another on a server in the basement. I keep these in synch as necessary. I backup my main data to CDRW every week (put in home safe), and bring CDRs to a safe deposit box every 6 months. (CDRWs every two months.) Oh, and most nights I copy the files that have changed since the weekly backup to a daily zip disk (one for each day).
I feel pretty safe with this setup. As discussed in other threads, if my data gets totally wiped out somehow, I'll probably have bigger things to worry about.
I haven't done any surveys on this, but I think anyone over the age of 12 knows about the real Calvin and Hobbes, not the Calvin portrayed on those idiotic decals.
"Yep. The world didn't turn color until sometime in the 1930's, and it was pretty grainy color for a while, too"
Shulman wrote an article about this in a recent Tech Review. You can read part of it at http://www.technologyreview.com/articles/shulman10 902.asp. (It's premium content so you need to be a subscriber to read the whole thing.) Good stuff.
No. They advertise that you get 40 hours. You get 40 hours. You might own the "reserve" space, but you don't have much ground for complaining that you can't use it. (And no, I don't approve of this whole business of recording special programs without your consent and not letting you delete them, but that's a separate issue than whining about the reserve space.)
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Yes, you do seem to be operating under a misconception. Many internships are not paid. Or you could say the pay is the experience. It might be that most I/T internships are paid, but maybe that is changing now.
Please don't allow posting in the window! Let people read the article and think about it first.
That will just lead to the same brain-dead, knee-jerk posts. By having a delay, people may actually read the story and compose a thoughtful post for when commenting opens up.
Alan is willing to write a report about something, say electronic money, if he can make $1500 on it.
Betty is willing to pay $1000 for the report.
Charlie is willing to pay $700 for the report.
If Alan were to charge $700, both people would buy the report, but he wouldn't make his $1500 so he wouldn't produce it.
How about instead, he charges:
Betty $950
Charlie $650
Now both customers get a price break from what they were willing to pay, and Alan gets an additional $100. And something of value was created that otherwise might not have been. So is this a good thing?
LOL, man! Has Barry written columns like this?
Let's not forget the Nose Blowing maneuver, where you hope for some loose nuggets that will rattle around and make a convincing sound as they come out.
Gardner Dozois, the editor of Asimov's SF magazine, puts out a collection every year. There is also the L. Ron Hubbard "Writer's of the Future." I know some people will object because of his name, but it's a great contest and the judges are all big names in SF, and you really get your cutting edge new writers.
I think the key is that the spammer's messages are so similar. They're all trying to sell you something, and they have to use that language.
If they had done something original, we wouldn't be talking about it on slashdot right now. The fact that it's Trek related draws the attention.
We only have one chance [unless people can prove otherwise],
We may have another chance even if no one can prove it.
Or did you mean that you'd change that opinion if someone could prove otherwise?
It does not matter what content inspection approach you try. They all suffer from the fact that as the number of people who have access to your filter grows so does the incentive to test against the filter and shape their content to get through.
But they don't have access to my filter. My filter is unique with regard to the messages I've labeled as "good" or "bad."
I'm not saying that Bayesian filtering is the ultimate solution, but if widely deployed and used it could be harmful enough to spammers to reduce their activity.
The MIT conference is likely to be a failure because the organizers are only presenting the tried and failed filtering approaches of the past. Those approaches are now well understood, they can mitigate the problem but can never do more than that. Filters suffer from reverse network effects, the more widely used they are the greater the incentive to program arround them.
I think they will talk a lot about using Bayes, which I don't think has been widely tried with respect to email filtering.
Spammers are already trying work arounds to get past statistical filtering, but I don't know if they'll be as successful.
Spam with images? They'll have to embed them in html which is itself a red flag.
Like Paul Graham said in that article, the spammers can't hide their message very well.
Is this "published" just because he put it up on his website and told people about it, or will it actually be published in a journal somewhere?
Yes, putting something on the web constitutes publication.
Now whether it is of value is another matter altogether, and something you have to evaluate for any published material, whether on the web, in a journal, or elsewhere.
How much is cell phone service in the UK? I pay $15 a month in the US. That's for only 60 minutes during the week and 250 on weekends, but I never come close to using up my minutes. (And if you're talking about it as a replacement for payphone dependence, that should be more than enough.)
Can't speak for reliability differences. My service is reliable enough for me, but I don't have any basis for comparison.
Yeah! I seem to remember in one episode they were having all kinds of fights over the phone so they installed a pay phone.
:-)
Didn't Mr. Brady have some kind of business call where he kept running out of money? And he was horribly embarrassed and mad maybe, but when he explained it the business partner understood and everything was happy? (Good thing the phone didn't queer the deal
Easier for me to remember a good one: Star Trek II, Wrath of Kahn.
Keep it coming...I can take it.
I dunno. Seems like you're pretty sensitive about it, taking the time to vent about it and all.
What, if a story isn't packed with a blow-by-blow technical orgy, it doesn't have any "real information?" This story has lots of good stuff. Thanks for the link.
When I read about new toolbar customization I got excited, but I still don't see where you can add and remove icons from the navigation toolbar. I like to keep things as compact as possible, so the default back, forward, reload, and stop buttons inline with address box are just fine, but I'd also like the home button up there. It seems like this would be an easy thing to copy from Internet Explorer.
I always said no also, but the thing is, it creates minor awkwardness. I'd just like to do the simple transaction without rebuffing their data mining efforts.
Sounds similar to my setup. I have a 60GB drive on my 2nd floor workstation and another on a server in the basement. I keep these in synch as necessary. I backup my main data to CDRW every week (put in home safe), and bring CDRs to a safe deposit box every 6 months. (CDRWs every two months.) Oh, and most nights I copy the files that have changed since the weekly backup to a daily zip disk (one for each day).
I feel pretty safe with this setup. As discussed in other threads, if my data gets totally wiped out somehow, I'll probably have bigger things to worry about.
I haven't done any surveys on this, but I think anyone over the age of 12 knows about the real Calvin and Hobbes, not the Calvin portrayed on those idiotic decals.
"Yep. The world didn't turn color until sometime in the 1930's, and it was pretty grainy color for a while, too"
Why do I hear Clark Griswald saying this?
Still, pretty funny.
Shulman wrote an article about this in a recent Tech Review. You can read part of it at http://www.technologyreview.com/articles/shulman10 902.asp. (It's premium content so you need to be a subscriber to read the whole thing.) Good stuff.
Maybe even Bob Sacamano.
So I shouldn't mind if a million pieces of spam arrive in my inbox, because I'm not forced to read them.
No. They advertise that you get 40 hours. You get 40 hours. You might own the "reserve" space, but you don't have much ground for complaining that you can't use it. (And no, I don't approve of this whole business of recording special programs without your consent and not letting you delete them, but that's a separate issue than whining about the reserve space.)