Isn't it great that the greatest threats governments have now is their citizens, maybe if they started treating them with respect and like normal decent human beings, then the governments wouldn't need to be afraid.
Couldn't they have just contacted any of the neumerous Nerdcore rappers out there, and been done with it. I know G4 used YTCracker and MC Frontalot in some of their spots.
If he has all of these complaints, he shouldn't have wanted to blow things up. More pollution would have been created by the clean-up and re-building had he blown the building up.
I think these crazy people need to think before they engage in their crazy plots. That way, we might listen to them.
I am sure they are not all stupid. I should not have phrased it like that. However, the ones that are in the spotlight, especially Sharon Angle, are quite stupid.
I do appoligze for my broad stroke.
I know that they do not want to kill everybody. They are, however, some of the most useless people in America. Their honesty about how they want the media to only report their stories how they want them to be reported.
Yes we need to take back our country, instead of letting it be for the big corporations, but we need to be civilized, and educated about it.
Maybe if they actually had ideas, rather than catch phrases everybody wouldn't automatically assume they are stupid.
That is what I was saying. We shouldn't have to resort to violence to change our government like our forefathers had too. We need to educate voters and seek to get the language of all proposed bills to be simpler, as well as posting in full the contents of bills at least 2 weeks before they are set to be voted on, so people can tell their reps how they want them to vote.
This is why we need to switch to a one thing per bill way of doing things. So many things are added to bills to try and hide stuff. Why does the government need to hide information from it's citizens.
We need to get everybody in Washington out, and start fresh, but lets do it right, and not use "second ammendment rights" like the crazy tea-party wants.
They only cite documents going back to 1998. There has to be prior examples of this happening is there?
Also, software pattents are getting ridiculous now a days. What is next, are they going to patent moving a cursor on-screen to select the option to shutdown?
Isn't this the whole point of net neutrality, so that all traffic is considered equal. Puting mechanics in place to have pioritization is the whole reason we want neutrality in the frist place. Sounds like AT&T wants to be able to extort money from smaller businesses.
Then should the Chinese and Koreans be allowed to play WoW, they spend vastly more time playing WoW per session then the average American? Hell, they are paid to play that long, paid very low wages, but paid none the less.
NAME:
Sony Computer Entertainment America, Inc.
BBB MEMBER:
NO
CONTACT:
Ms. Cynthia Woodman
ADDRESS:
919 E Hillsdale Blvd 2nd Floor
Foster City, CA 94404-4247
PHONE:
800 345-7669
FAX:
650 655-7350
Complaint - The Playstation 3 console was advertised and is continued to advertise it ability to install Linux and an "Other O/S". In a recent firmware update to the Playstation 3, this feature was removed from consoles after purchase, if the update is applied. If a user decided to not apply the update, they are forbidden from logging into the "Playstation Network". In the "Playstation Network", users can spend money on games, if the player does not log into the "Playstation Network" they cannot access content they have paid for.
This leaves users with the choice of using an advertised feature they paid for, or using content they paid for. There is no option to do both.
Response - We understand that this complaint concerns the PlayStation®3 ("PS3") System Software Update Version 3.21 released on April 1, 2010. Among other things, Update Version 3.21, if downloaded by a user, would delete the "install Other OS" option previously available on some PS3 systems. To protect the intellectual property of the content offered on the PS3 system, as well as to provide a more secure system for those users who are enjoying games and other entertainment content on the PS3 system, the "install Other OS" feature was deleted to address security vulnerability. The update is optional and users can continue to use the "install Other OS" feature, but if a user chooses not to upgrade the system, some other features will no longer be available, including online access to the PlayStation® Network and the ability to play PS3 format software or Blu-Ray Disc videos that require System Software Version 3.21 or later. Update Version 3.21 is authorized by and consistent with the Terms of Service and User Agreement for the PlayStation® Network, as well as the System Software License Agreement for the PS3 System. We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused.
My response to their response - They are using a non-enforceable End User License Agreement, also known as a Contracts of Adhesion, to assert they have the right to dictate how I use a piece of electronics that I legally purchased. Said License Agreement is only made known after purchase. They also assert the right to do anything they wish to said electronics.
As I've stated previously. Class Action suites are not going to hurt Sony in the long run, and will only serve to make lawyers richer. Make a complaint to the Better Business Bureau, then contact your State Attorney General.
Explain to them you paid $600 to Sony Computer Entertainment of America for a machine that was advertised with the ability to install an alternative operating system, play games, and access an online marketplace. Then a few years later, they gave you the option to either continue to use the alternate operating system, or to play games and access the online marketplace, but NOT both at the same time. Then explain that they still advertise the ability to do all 3 at the same time, but in reality you cannot, and you weren't given a refund for loosing out on features you paid for at the time of sale.
Many State Attorney Generals will eat this kind of thing up, they were elected by people, so if they don't listen to people, their career will be over. Also, it will get their name in the public light in other states once media outlets pick up on the story.
Here is my sample BBB complaint.
"The Playstation 3 console was advertised and is continued to advertise it ability to install Linux and an "Other O/S". In a recent firmware update to the Playstation 3, this feature was removed from consoles after purchase, if the update is applied. If a user decided to not apply the update, they are forbidden from logging into the "Playstation Network". In the "Playstation Network", users can spend money on games, if the player does not log into the "Playstation Network" they cannot access content they have paid for. This leaves users with the choice of using an advertised feature they paid for, or using content they paid for. There is no option to do both."
I listed my desired resolution as
"I am looking for Sony Computer Entertainment of America to either reinstate the "Other O/S" feature, or provide a partial refund for the features removed."
I'm sorry then, I must have understood it incorrectly. What is it called when I pay for a service, and the service provider decided to removed the service, and not compensate me?
It is time for PS3 owners to take SCEA to court over Theft of Services and also over their EULA being a contract of adhesion
This has to be illegal, but a class action suite won't do anything, every PS3 owner in America needs to take SECA to small claims court and slowly bleed them.
I always though it was because that it is simply faster and easier to let the body scab over the wound then to try to let the internal structure regenerate. So the human body developed the scabbing ability so that humans who did get injured could quickly escape whatever injured them.
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Isn't it great that the greatest threats governments have now is their citizens, maybe if they started treating them with respect and like normal decent human beings, then the governments wouldn't need to be afraid.
You do know they make it mostly easy to remove 90% of what you just complained about. http://www.ehow.com/how_2042739_remove-emblems-from-cars.html
I thought stickers on computers where like the stickers on cars, the more you have, the faster you go?
Couldn't they have just contacted any of the neumerous Nerdcore rappers out there, and been done with it. I know G4 used YTCracker and MC Frontalot in some of their spots.
If he has all of these complaints, he shouldn't have wanted to blow things up. More pollution would have been created by the clean-up and re-building had he blown the building up. I think these crazy people need to think before they engage in their crazy plots. That way, we might listen to them.
I am sure they are not all stupid. I should not have phrased it like that. However, the ones that are in the spotlight, especially Sharon Angle, are quite stupid. I do appoligze for my broad stroke.
I know that they do not want to kill everybody. They are, however, some of the most useless people in America. Their honesty about how they want the media to only report their stories how they want them to be reported. Yes we need to take back our country, instead of letting it be for the big corporations, but we need to be civilized, and educated about it. Maybe if they actually had ideas, rather than catch phrases everybody wouldn't automatically assume they are stupid.
That is what I was saying. We shouldn't have to resort to violence to change our government like our forefathers had too. We need to educate voters and seek to get the language of all proposed bills to be simpler, as well as posting in full the contents of bills at least 2 weeks before they are set to be voted on, so people can tell their reps how they want them to vote.
This is why we need to switch to a one thing per bill way of doing things. So many things are added to bills to try and hide stuff. Why does the government need to hide information from it's citizens. We need to get everybody in Washington out, and start fresh, but lets do it right, and not use "second ammendment rights" like the crazy tea-party wants.
People like to hear about negative things happening to people not like them. This has gone on forever, is it even worth an idle story?
They only cite documents going back to 1998. There has to be prior examples of this happening is there? Also, software pattents are getting ridiculous now a days. What is next, are they going to patent moving a cursor on-screen to select the option to shutdown?
Isn't this the whole point of net neutrality, so that all traffic is considered equal. Puting mechanics in place to have pioritization is the whole reason we want neutrality in the frist place. Sounds like AT&T wants to be able to extort money from smaller businesses.
It appears they did. Good on Garmin for being Proactive.
Where there any instances of anybody getting hurt by these at risk batteries, or is this a proactive recall. The article didn't say.
Yes, yes I did. Now I feel like an even bigger idiot. Thank you.
I for one Welcome our new motion sensing Chiense overlords. Did I do that right?
Then should the Chinese and Koreans be allowed to play WoW, they spend vastly more time playing WoW per session then the average American? Hell, they are paid to play that long, paid very low wages, but paid none the less.
NAME:
Sony Computer Entertainment America, Inc.
BBB MEMBER:
NO
CONTACT:
Ms. Cynthia Woodman
ADDRESS:
919 E Hillsdale Blvd 2nd Floor
Foster City, CA 94404-4247
PHONE:
800 345-7669
FAX:
650 655-7350
Complaint - The Playstation 3 console was advertised and is continued to advertise it ability to install Linux and an "Other O/S". In a recent firmware update to the Playstation 3, this feature was removed from consoles after purchase, if the update is applied. If a user decided to not apply the update, they are forbidden from logging into the "Playstation Network". In the "Playstation Network", users can spend money on games, if the player does not log into the "Playstation Network" they cannot access content they have paid for.
This leaves users with the choice of using an advertised feature they paid for, or using content they paid for. There is no option to do both.
Response - We understand that this complaint concerns the PlayStation®3 ("PS3") System Software Update Version 3.21 released on April 1, 2010. Among other things, Update Version 3.21, if downloaded by a user, would delete the "install Other OS" option previously available on some PS3 systems. To protect the intellectual property of the content offered on the PS3 system, as well as to provide a more secure system for those users who are enjoying games and other entertainment content on the PS3 system, the "install Other OS" feature was deleted to address security vulnerability. The update is optional and users can continue to use the "install Other OS" feature, but if a user chooses not to upgrade the system, some other features will no longer be available, including online access to the PlayStation® Network and the ability to play PS3 format software or Blu-Ray Disc videos that require System Software Version 3.21 or later. Update Version 3.21 is authorized by and consistent with the Terms of Service and User Agreement for the PlayStation® Network, as well as the System Software License Agreement for the PS3 System. We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused.
My response to their response - They are using a non-enforceable End User License Agreement, also known as a Contracts of Adhesion, to assert they have the right to dictate how I use a piece of electronics that I legally purchased. Said License Agreement is only made known after purchase. They also assert the right to do anything they wish to said electronics.
http://www.scei.co.jp/ps3-eula/ps3_eula_en.html
Waiting for their counter-response
As I've stated previously. Class Action suites are not going to hurt Sony in the long run, and will only serve to make lawyers richer. Make a complaint to the Better Business Bureau, then contact your State Attorney General.
Explain to them you paid $600 to Sony Computer Entertainment of America for a machine that was advertised with the ability to install an alternative operating system, play games, and access an online marketplace. Then a few years later, they gave you the option to either continue to use the alternate operating system, or to play games and access the online marketplace, but NOT both at the same time. Then explain that they still advertise the ability to do all 3 at the same time, but in reality you cannot, and you weren't given a refund for loosing out on features you paid for at the time of sale.
Many State Attorney Generals will eat this kind of thing up, they were elected by people, so if they don't listen to people, their career will be over. Also, it will get their name in the public light in other states once media outlets pick up on the story.
Here is my sample BBB complaint.
"The Playstation 3 console was advertised and is continued to advertise it ability to install Linux and an "Other O/S". In a recent firmware update to the Playstation 3, this feature was removed from consoles after purchase, if the update is applied. If a user decided to not apply the update, they are forbidden from logging into the "Playstation Network". In the "Playstation Network", users can spend money on games, if the player does not log into the "Playstation Network" they cannot access content they have paid for. This leaves users with the choice of using an advertised feature they paid for, or using content they paid for. There is no option to do both."
I listed my desired resolution as "I am looking for Sony Computer Entertainment of America to either reinstate the "Other O/S" feature, or provide a partial refund for the features removed."
Not according to the wikipedia page
I'm sorry then, I must have understood it incorrectly. What is it called when I pay for a service, and the service provider decided to removed the service, and not compensate me?
It is time for PS3 owners to take SCEA to court over Theft of Services and also over their EULA being a contract of adhesion This has to be illegal, but a class action suite won't do anything, every PS3 owner in America needs to take SECA to small claims court and slowly bleed them.
I for one welcome our Wheat threatening fungi overlords
I always though it was because that it is simply faster and easier to let the body scab over the wound then to try to let the internal structure regenerate. So the human body developed the scabbing ability so that humans who did get injured could quickly escape whatever injured them.
What is to stop people from buying stuff on vacation?
No, the Air Force doesn't use master, it is Superintendent.