Yeah seriously, I can't believe people are complaining about "hitting the streets" it's like they actually thought the potatoes are physically punching the street. Maybe there should be separate headlines for non-native speakers.
There actually is a key problem with your analogy. As televisions get bigger, the difference in resolution gets more noticeable. While it is arguable how useful HDTV is on a relatively small television, it would be hard to find someone with decent vision who didn't see a noticeable difference on a 60" television. As large HDTV's get more widespread and cheaper, people will see a very good reason to adopt the new format.
I like Slayer and Radiohead, but I can't be blasting Reign in Blood when my girlfriend's over. I would be upset if I bought an expensive boombox that could only play one or the other.
Right now for the price of the LG dual format player I can buy a premium Xbox 360, HD-DVD drive add-on, and a premium 60gb PS3. Think about how much more functionality I would get. I think that in general, a combo player should be much cheaper than buying two separate devices and right now it isn't. Maybe some people with HDTV's from 10 years ago that have only one HD input would really value something like this, but I think for most people it just isn't practical. I think that player also has some problems with higher level HD-DVD functions, but I'm not certain. Anyway, I think that there is a very good chance that the format war will be over by the time this overpriced piece of garbage gets a 700 dollar price cut. Also it is probable that by the time they're selling it for the "acceptable" price of 500 bucks the price of standalone players will also have decreased.
I know this article came out today, but I think the figures they are using are sort of stale. I mean it has been confirmed that they sold 200,000 on launch day in the US. I thought that the PS3 had sold, not shipped, close to 1 million PS3's to the US and 500k to Japan. There was a report that came out a week or two ago saying that they had shipped 2 million of them worldwide.
The first guy asserted that the player would tell Sony what you are watching. I said no. The link you're pointing to says no. So why does your link say yes? you have to sign on to the internet for downloading stuff that isn't on the disc, surfing the web, and some managed copy thing that doesn't currently exist. Right now basic means in HD. Maybe in the future your definition of basic will be correct.
I don't know anything about HD-DVD, but the new Blu Ray's are supposed to be way more durable than current DVD's. Panasonic plans to release a 100GB disc that will last up to 100 years.
1. They are both far from affordable right now, and will both be cheap in the future.
2. It is bad practice to argue price for HD-DVD vs. Blu Ray, and then ignore it for HD-DVD vs. the internet. I still think that anyone who knows about the format war also knows how to get free porn from the internet.
3. This is a silly argument. If higher capacities don't matter, why are the newest Blu-Ray's being released on 50GB discs? Did Sony just decide that they wanted to force this dual-layer technology into the homes of unsuspecting consumers? Also, what about people who want to store large amounts of data? Won't they care about capacity? What about television programs? More capacity means more special features, more audio tracks, more of everything without having to get off the couch and put in a different disc.
Okay, I'm getting really sick of people saying that HD-DVD has a little less storage than Blu Ray. Right now Blu Ray has 50GB discs and HD-DVD has 30 GB discs at the most. If this is what you call "a little more storage capacity" then your definition of a little is different than mine. HD-DVD does have a 45 GB prototype in the works, but Blu Ray has a 100GB and a 200GB prototype, so for the foreseeable future, Blu-Ray is going to have a vast storage advantage over HD-DVD. Also Panasonic's new 100 GB Blu Ray is super durable. Check out this article:
HD-DVD's are as durable as DVD's. As far as the porn industry thing goes, one format is exclusively used by the porn industry, the other is exclusively used by Disney, which do you think will win? Anyone who has any idea about the format war knows how to get his porn for free from the internet.
Umm no. I think both formats have the same DRM and I haven't heard anything about requiring an internet connection. You're thinking of Divx or something.
I don't know where you're getting your information from, but I remember reading that TDK made a 100GB Blu Ray last year. Blu Ray has currently has 50gb discs, the first was Click. So HD-DVD might be able to pull within 5 GB of Blu Ray if they actually release this triple layer disc, current players can read it, and Blu Ray doesn't expand their discs.
Worsening U.S. Economy? I know that the housing market isn't doing so hot, but I thought that the Dow was at record levels throughout the holiday season. I think you're reading a little too much into the relationship between your prediction for the U.S. housing market and the amount of people willing to buy a PS3. Many things are happening in the economy. The Dow is going up, oil is going down, house prices are plummeting. You don't hear people saying things like, "I'm spending way less money on gasoline this monthy, and I expect the trend to continue in the future, perhaps I can purchase a fancy next-gen game system." The people that are currently buying a PS3 right now, with very few games out, are probably not worrying about the value of their home when they make the purchase. Sure, if the U.S. economy takes a nose dive people probably won't be as likely to drop 600 bucks on a videogame console, but to make a prediction that the economy will nosedive while the Dow is at a record level based only on the housing market seems a little narrow.
I don't think that anyone expected them to be close to breaking even 2 months after launch. As the manufacturer gets more efficient, the system can be made more cheaply. Your numbers also assume that the console buyer does not buy any peripherals, blu ray discs, or online content.
Indeed, and the Bone games just got a Director's Cut patch that makes the game look a little better, and might include some other stuff too. Episodic content is great for small developers because it provides a constant stream of income. There are certain genres of gaming that have a small, rabid fanbase, that large developers are not willing to touch with a ten foot pole i.e. the point and click adventure. I hope the Telltale guys can get their hands on some other Lucasarts properties and start churning out sequels to Monkey Island, Day of the Tentacle, Loom, or Grim Fandango.
"I feel like someone who just puked their hands and rubbed it all over my body. This is absolutly rediculous." Hey buddy, at least some of those "MORONS" who are suing can form a sentence. I laughed so hard when I read your post that I almost puked my hands.
Actually in logicland many people would argue that manufacturers should be held liable for damages caused by defective products even if they issue a recall. Let us say for example, that I manufacture a product that gives everyone cancer. Should I be able to issue a product recall and tell those people that their injuries no longer matter? A recall does not insulate the manufacturer from liability for previous damages. Sure there are plenty other arguments that nintendo can make to defend this lawsuit, but this is not one of them because it doesn't make any sense.
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and by claim, i mean tape.
I don't have any specific knowledge, but I'll take a crack at it. The claim isn't testimony, it's evidence.
Yeah seriously, I can't believe people are complaining about "hitting the streets" it's like they actually thought the potatoes are physically punching the street. Maybe there should be separate headlines for non-native speakers.
There actually is a key problem with your analogy. As televisions get bigger, the difference in resolution gets more noticeable. While it is arguable how useful HDTV is on a relatively small television, it would be hard to find someone with decent vision who didn't see a noticeable difference on a 60" television. As large HDTV's get more widespread and cheaper, people will see a very good reason to adopt the new format.
Yeah I don't know a ton about this stuff, but I think it's going to be a long time before developers get a really good handle on the cell processor.
Yeah seriously, that really gets my goat, like those idiots who call all cotton swabs Q-tips.
I like Slayer and Radiohead, but I can't be blasting Reign in Blood when my girlfriend's over. I would be upset if I bought an expensive boombox that could only play one or the other.
Damn, good call, I almost forgot about that one. If they'd make a sequel to that one and Xenogears, I think I'd crap my pants.
Right now for the price of the LG dual format player I can buy a premium Xbox 360, HD-DVD drive add-on, and a premium 60gb PS3. Think about how much more functionality I would get. I think that in general, a combo player should be much cheaper than buying two separate devices and right now it isn't. Maybe some people with HDTV's from 10 years ago that have only one HD input would really value something like this, but I think for most people it just isn't practical. I think that player also has some problems with higher level HD-DVD functions, but I'm not certain. Anyway, I think that there is a very good chance that the format war will be over by the time this overpriced piece of garbage gets a 700 dollar price cut. Also it is probable that by the time they're selling it for the "acceptable" price of 500 bucks the price of standalone players will also have decreased.
I know this article came out today, but I think the figures they are using are sort of stale. I mean it has been confirmed that they sold 200,000 on launch day in the US. I thought that the PS3 had sold, not shipped, close to 1 million PS3's to the US and 500k to Japan. There was a report that came out a week or two ago saying that they had shipped 2 million of them worldwide.
The first guy asserted that the player would tell Sony what you are watching. I said no. The link you're pointing to says no. So why does your link say yes? you have to sign on to the internet for downloading stuff that isn't on the disc, surfing the web, and some managed copy thing that doesn't currently exist. Right now basic means in HD. Maybe in the future your definition of basic will be correct.
I don't know anything about HD-DVD, but the new Blu Ray's are supposed to be way more durable than current DVD's. Panasonic plans to release a 100GB disc that will last up to 100 years.
1. They are both far from affordable right now, and will both be cheap in the future. 2. It is bad practice to argue price for HD-DVD vs. Blu Ray, and then ignore it for HD-DVD vs. the internet. I still think that anyone who knows about the format war also knows how to get free porn from the internet. 3. This is a silly argument. If higher capacities don't matter, why are the newest Blu-Ray's being released on 50GB discs? Did Sony just decide that they wanted to force this dual-layer technology into the homes of unsuspecting consumers? Also, what about people who want to store large amounts of data? Won't they care about capacity? What about television programs? More capacity means more special features, more audio tracks, more of everything without having to get off the couch and put in a different disc.
I wonder why they didn't use the 17GB layers all along.
Okay, I'm getting really sick of people saying that HD-DVD has a little less storage than Blu Ray. Right now Blu Ray has 50GB discs and HD-DVD has 30 GB discs at the most. If this is what you call "a little more storage capacity" then your definition of a little is different than mine. HD-DVD does have a 45 GB prototype in the works, but Blu Ray has a 100GB and a 200GB prototype, so for the foreseeable future, Blu-Ray is going to have a vast storage advantage over HD-DVD. Also Panasonic's new 100 GB Blu Ray is super durable. Check out this article: HD-DVD's are as durable as DVD's. As far as the porn industry thing goes, one format is exclusively used by the porn industry, the other is exclusively used by Disney, which do you think will win? Anyone who has any idea about the format war knows how to get his porn for free from the internet.
Umm no. I think both formats have the same DRM and I haven't heard anything about requiring an internet connection. You're thinking of Divx or something.
I heard that TDK has a prototype 200GB blu ray.
I don't know where you're getting your information from, but I remember reading that TDK made a 100GB Blu Ray last year. Blu Ray has currently has 50gb discs, the first was Click. So HD-DVD might be able to pull within 5 GB of Blu Ray if they actually release this triple layer disc, current players can read it, and Blu Ray doesn't expand their discs.
Worsening U.S. Economy? I know that the housing market isn't doing so hot, but I thought that the Dow was at record levels throughout the holiday season. I think you're reading a little too much into the relationship between your prediction for the U.S. housing market and the amount of people willing to buy a PS3. Many things are happening in the economy. The Dow is going up, oil is going down, house prices are plummeting. You don't hear people saying things like, "I'm spending way less money on gasoline this monthy, and I expect the trend to continue in the future, perhaps I can purchase a fancy next-gen game system." The people that are currently buying a PS3 right now, with very few games out, are probably not worrying about the value of their home when they make the purchase. Sure, if the U.S. economy takes a nose dive people probably won't be as likely to drop 600 bucks on a videogame console, but to make a prediction that the economy will nosedive while the Dow is at a record level based only on the housing market seems a little narrow.
I don't think that anyone expected them to be close to breaking even 2 months after launch. As the manufacturer gets more efficient, the system can be made more cheaply. Your numbers also assume that the console buyer does not buy any peripherals, blu ray discs, or online content.
I thought that the HDMI and large harddrive were not confirmed. I read the story on engadget. Does anyone have a link to official info?
Indeed, and the Bone games just got a Director's Cut patch that makes the game look a little better, and might include some other stuff too. Episodic content is great for small developers because it provides a constant stream of income. There are certain genres of gaming that have a small, rabid fanbase, that large developers are not willing to touch with a ten foot pole i.e. the point and click adventure. I hope the Telltale guys can get their hands on some other Lucasarts properties and start churning out sequels to Monkey Island, Day of the Tentacle, Loom, or Grim Fandango.
I wouldn't put it past their marketing firm.
"I feel like someone who just puked their hands and rubbed it all over my body. This is absolutly rediculous." Hey buddy, at least some of those "MORONS" who are suing can form a sentence. I laughed so hard when I read your post that I almost puked my hands.
Actually in logicland many people would argue that manufacturers should be held liable for damages caused by defective products even if they issue a recall. Let us say for example, that I manufacture a product that gives everyone cancer. Should I be able to issue a product recall and tell those people that their injuries no longer matter? A recall does not insulate the manufacturer from liability for previous damages. Sure there are plenty other arguments that nintendo can make to defend this lawsuit, but this is not one of them because it doesn't make any sense.