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You know, I used to think that the idea behind.NET supporting all these languages was interesting, but now that I've actually used it, I can't see what the big deal is; especially since the development environment to program for.NET is different for each of the different languages. Sure, you can hook a smattering of languages together, but who on Earth really does that? I have never worked for a company that says "write in whatever language you want to, we code to.NET so it doesn't matter!" What a nightmare that scenario would be. Most companies force standardization on one or two languages and then hire people with appropriate experience.
What I find much more useful, and therefore of a much higher "cool" factor, is Borlands new C++BuilderX. Now that is a damn fine looking development tool. I can't wait to try it out.
C++BuilderX allows a C++ or C developer to pick from several compilers (Borland, MS, GCC, Forte, etc.), it will compile to Windows, Linux and Solaris, and it supports the EXACT SAME development/debugging environment regardless of which combination of compiler/OS you choose. It also lets you seemlessly interface with a variety of version control systems. To me, that seems much more useful than having a bunch of different environments that will compile a bunch of different languages to one VM.
Actually, it isn't $1,500. It's around 150,000 yen, which at today's exchange rate is about $1,300.00. However, in Japan, a 10,000 yen bill (which is worth around $85.00 -- $90.00), spends like a $20.00 bill in the U.S.; meaning that you can buy the same amount with a $20 in the U.S. as you can with an "ichi man" bill (10,000) in Japan.
Therefore, if you consider not the face value of the currency, but rather the percieved cost to your wallet in comparison with other things you could buy in Japan, then this PVR's cost is equivalant to being about $300.00 in the U.S.
I have never been to Europe, so I don't really know what the outcome of this will be, but if it were the US it wouldn't matter. The government would just postpone legislation until a future date, where they would go ahead and do whatever the hell they wanted to do in the first place.
I agree that flourescent bulbs are great for most people, but I can see the them cycling and they make me nauseous. It's like staring into a mild strobe light all the time (I have the same problem with CRT monitors too).
If LEDs don't have this problem, then they would be a better solution for me.
This type of thing is exactly the reason I have de-microsoftized my personal computers. I am sick of the stupid way Microsoft tries to make everything they own into this elite club for Windows/Microsoft users only; the moldy puds that they are.
The friends I use IMs to communicate with mostly use AIM or Yahoo. I think I only have 2 friends that use Microsoft's messenger, so I really don't care that much since it will impact me little. However, I still think Microsoft doing this is like Panasonic creating a phone that only accepts calls from other Panasonic phones. It's completely stupid.
BTW, if anyone knows of any decent, modern bands in the spirit of great 60's and 70's rock, I'd be damn grateful. Major label or indie, I don't care.
If you are talking about "rock" in the sense of Pink Floyd, Yes, ELP, etc. then I would probably listen to bands like: Spock's Beard
Dream Theater
Liquid Tension
If you mean the Beatles, Stones, Elvis, etc. then I would probably:
Find new music to listen to.
Of course, I have no idea what any of the rest of you would do.
Victoria's Secret got in trouble in my state for doing this. They sent out catalogs to the wealthy areas of town, which contained higher prices than the catalogs they sent out to the monitarily challenged sections of town.
Seriously, I go to work and pop open Slashdot to begin the day with a dose of nerd news, and by the time I've finished all the articles and replied where I felt it necessary, its time to go home. I never get anything done.
After reading the "bugs aren't miskakes" post and all the replies and sub replies to it, I wanted to toss in my 2 yen.
I disagree with the "bugs aren't mistakes" poster, because they obviously are; however, I do agree completely with his/her discription of the software development process (that you write software until the bugs/fixes reach a certain level and then sell).
If you don't follow this software development cycle, you will never sell your software because software always will have at least a few bugs in it. So, the options are to perfect your software and go out of business, or do as the first poster suggested.
Also, I don't understand why bricks and other building practices are being used in counterpoint to creating software when they are clearly the same. I worked for my dad's construction company for a number of years and I can tell you there is no such thing as a perfectly plumb building, perfectly laid cement, a perfect paint job, perfectly laid bricks or anything else. Mistakes and slight imperfections are a part of every facet of human existence; the best we can hope for is "good enough". Software is not different in this regard than any other profession.
So, in conclusion, my opinion on the subject is that developers will never write perfect code, and that the focus should be, just as it is with contruction, to get your code "close enough"; not perfect.
But the odds are not that you will be beat to death by a single person. More likely, you will be beat to death by 20 or so high school kids out looking for kicks; or cut up via knives by the same group of kids.
Another fun way to go, that happened last year, was two women were tied up, placed in barrels of gasoline and lit on fire. The guy who did it claimed that their screams drove him nuts and he couldn't get them out of his head.
Having your throat cut or being beat to death by a bat are also fun ways Japanese people commit murder. Of course, you could just be shot with a gun too since there are many of them in the country.
You don't even have to look at murders to see the violence over there. For instance, a high school girl was mad at another girl for stealing her boyfriend, so she and a few of her friends held down the one they were mad at and shoved a bunch of crushed glass up her vagina.
I could go on, but won't. The point is guns don't cause violence; people are violent by nature. If you make guns illegal, then you place guns in the hands of criminals and provide no way for innocent citizens to protect themselves. If you think there are no guns in Japan, you are sadly mistaken.
If a criminal suspects a victim may have a gun, he/she is less likely to commit the intended crime. If the criminal knows the victim doesn't have a gun, then there's really no reason not to commit the crime.
I've posted this before on Slashdot, but SCO uses Windows 2000 servers and desktops internally instead of their own products (well, last I heard the developers were still running OpenLinux, but they are the only ones). This happened about the same time they began calling themselves SCO.
Look at countries like Japan. No, not crime free. But from what I understand, there is less violent crime.
I have lived in Japan for many years and you are completely wrong about "less violent" crime. People are killed there quite frequently in some extremely violent fashions. In fact, violent crime, and crime in general, is up significantly during the last 10 years. So much for your no guns == no crime theory.
Eliminating guns does not lessen crime. All you have to do is study any country that has outlawed guns within the last 50 years to determine that fact.
However, it is not a natural evolution of your language. Apparently "email" was the natural evolution of your language, but the French Language Police didn't like an English word creeping into their beloved French so they, artificially, created "courriel".
That, my friend, is not the evolution of your language.
What I would suggest, instead of artificially creating new French terms, is that the French government create a French only internet so French people can keep their French blinders on and keep up the facade that France is still a relevant, trend setting nation.
The people are irrational though, and the argument against them is sound. What are you going to do, make gun control laws that are "new and improved" or "extra strength"?
I completely agree. Just having a Napster-like service where you have to pay a fee per-song will probably not work. I like having all of my songs on a hard drive so I can listen to them while I work, make long playlists, etc. However, I would never pay on a per-song basis because there is no percieved value in one.mp3 file to me.
On the other hand, if you had a subscription service where somebody could download whatever they wanted for a small monthly or yearly fee (less that $10.00 per month), and include the other improvements mentioned in the parent post, then you might have something that people would be willing to pay for.
I think a setup like garageband would be a great way to start.
One way to get me to pay would be to offer the files in.ogg format too.
The old DOS library C-Worthy provided shadowing on old DOS applications (other libraries provided this as well). Before that God equipped every thing on the Earth with a nice shadow to keep everything from blending together. It's not like Windows, Mac, KDE, Gnome, etc invented shadows.
I view the sharing of music now days as a form of political protesting.
Regarding the music industry, there is a lot to protest about in my opinion. Prices are too high, quality is questionable, and the RIAA are out of control. What better place to protest and get your points across than downloading music from the internet?
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You know, I used to think that the idea behind .NET supporting all these languages was interesting, but now that I've actually used it, I can't see what the big deal is; especially since the development environment to program for .NET is different for each of the different languages. Sure, you can hook a smattering of languages together, but who on Earth really does that? I have never worked for a company that says "write in whatever language you want to, we code to .NET so it doesn't matter!" What a nightmare that scenario would be. Most companies force standardization on one or two languages and then hire people with appropriate experience.
What I find much more useful, and therefore of a much higher "cool" factor, is Borlands new C++BuilderX. Now that is a damn fine looking development tool. I can't wait to try it out.
C++BuilderX allows a C++ or C developer to pick from several compilers (Borland, MS, GCC, Forte, etc.), it will compile to Windows, Linux and Solaris, and it supports the EXACT SAME development/debugging environment regardless of which combination of compiler/OS you choose. It also lets you seemlessly interface with a variety of version control systems. To me, that seems much more useful than having a bunch of different environments that will compile a bunch of different languages to one VM.
...but we all know that is just a legal innuendo for dropping your pants so they can notarize your butt with the big boot of "justice".
Actually, it isn't $1,500. It's around 150,000 yen, which at today's exchange rate is about $1,300.00. However, in Japan, a 10,000 yen bill (which is worth around $85.00 -- $90.00), spends like a $20.00 bill in the U.S.; meaning that you can buy the same amount with a $20 in the U.S. as you can with an "ichi man" bill (10,000) in Japan.
Therefore, if you consider not the face value of the currency, but rather the percieved cost to your wallet in comparison with other things you could buy in Japan, then this PVR's cost is equivalant to being about $300.00 in the U.S.
I have never been to Europe, so I don't really know what the outcome of this will be, but if it were the US it wouldn't matter. The government would just postpone legislation until a future date, where they would go ahead and do whatever the hell they wanted to do in the first place.
I agree that flourescent bulbs are great for most people, but I can see the them cycling and they make me nauseous. It's like staring into a mild strobe light all the time (I have the same problem with CRT monitors too).
If LEDs don't have this problem, then they would be a better solution for me.
I would mod you up if I had any points.
I think an MS search would look like any other kind of anal sex on the internet.
Thank you. You're a mensch.
This type of thing is exactly the reason I have de-microsoftized my personal computers. I am sick of the stupid way Microsoft tries to make everything they own into this elite club for Windows/Microsoft users only; the moldy puds that they are.
The friends I use IMs to communicate with mostly use AIM or Yahoo. I think I only have 2 friends that use Microsoft's messenger, so I really don't care that much since it will impact me little. However, I still think Microsoft doing this is like Panasonic creating a phone that only accepts calls from other Panasonic phones. It's completely stupid.
Who the hell is Howard Dean, and why on Earth should I care?
You're right. I left off "Experiment". I've never had a mistype that big before. I must be going senile.
BTW, if anyone knows of any decent, modern bands in the spirit of great 60's and 70's rock, I'd be damn grateful. Major label or indie, I don't care.
If you are talking about "rock" in the sense of Pink Floyd, Yes, ELP, etc. then I would probably listen to bands like:
Spock's Beard
Dream Theater
Liquid Tension
If you mean the Beatles, Stones, Elvis, etc. then I would probably:
Find new music to listen to.
Of course, I have no idea what any of the rest of you would do.
Victoria's Secret got in trouble in my state for doing this. They sent out catalogs to the wealthy areas of town, which contained higher prices than the catalogs they sent out to the monitarily challenged sections of town.
It caused a big whinge fest a few years ago.
Seriously, I go to work and pop open Slashdot to begin the day with a dose of nerd news, and by the time I've finished all the articles and replied where I felt it necessary, its time to go home. I never get anything done.
After reading the "bugs aren't miskakes" post and all the replies and sub replies to it, I wanted to toss in my 2 yen.
I disagree with the "bugs aren't mistakes" poster, because they obviously are; however, I do agree completely with his/her discription of the software development process (that you write software until the bugs/fixes reach a certain level and then sell).
If you don't follow this software development cycle, you will never sell your software because software always will have at least a few bugs in it. So, the options are to perfect your software and go out of business, or do as the first poster suggested.
Also, I don't understand why bricks and other building practices are being used in counterpoint to creating software when they are clearly the same. I worked for my dad's construction company for a number of years and I can tell you there is no such thing as a perfectly plumb building, perfectly laid cement, a perfect paint job, perfectly laid bricks or anything else. Mistakes and slight imperfections are a part of every facet of human existence; the best we can hope for is "good enough". Software is not different in this regard than any other profession.
So, in conclusion, my opinion on the subject is that developers will never write perfect code, and that the focus should be, just as it is with contruction, to get your code "close enough"; not perfect.
But the odds are not that you will be beat to death by a single person. More likely, you will be beat to death by 20 or so high school kids out looking for kicks; or cut up via knives by the same group of kids.
Another fun way to go, that happened last year, was two women were tied up, placed in barrels of gasoline and lit on fire. The guy who did it claimed that their screams drove him nuts and he couldn't get them out of his head.
Having your throat cut or being beat to death by a bat are also fun ways Japanese people commit murder. Of course, you could just be shot with a gun too since there are many of them in the country.
You don't even have to look at murders to see the violence over there. For instance, a high school girl was mad at another girl for stealing her boyfriend, so she and a few of her friends held down the one they were mad at and shoved a bunch of crushed glass up her vagina.
I could go on, but won't. The point is guns don't cause violence; people are violent by nature. If you make guns illegal, then you place guns in the hands of criminals and provide no way for innocent citizens to protect themselves. If you think there are no guns in Japan, you are sadly mistaken.
If a criminal suspects a victim may have a gun, he/she is less likely to commit the intended crime. If the criminal knows the victim doesn't have a gun, then there's really no reason not to commit the crime.
Oh, I thought the secret was an intense marathon of desktop Kegel exercises. Your advice sounds easier.
I've posted this before on Slashdot, but SCO uses Windows 2000 servers and desktops internally instead of their own products (well, last I heard the developers were still running OpenLinux, but they are the only ones). This happened about the same time they began calling themselves SCO.
Look at countries like Japan. No, not crime free. But from what I understand, there is less violent crime.
I have lived in Japan for many years and you are completely wrong about "less violent" crime. People are killed there quite frequently in some extremely violent fashions. In fact, violent crime, and crime in general, is up significantly during the last 10 years. So much for your no guns == no crime theory.
Eliminating guns does not lessen crime. All you have to do is study any country that has outlawed guns within the last 50 years to determine that fact.
However, it is not a natural evolution of your language. Apparently "email" was the natural evolution of your language, but the French Language Police didn't like an English word creeping into their beloved French so they, artificially, created "courriel".
That, my friend, is not the evolution of your language.
What I would suggest, instead of artificially creating new French terms, is that the French government create a French only internet so French people can keep their French blinders on and keep up the facade that France is still a relevant, trend setting nation.
The people are irrational though, and the argument against them is sound. What are you going to do, make gun control laws that are "new and improved" or "extra strength"?
I completely agree. Just having a Napster-like service where you have to pay a fee per-song will probably not work. I like having all of my songs on a hard drive so I can listen to them while I work, make long playlists, etc. However, I would never pay on a per-song basis because there is no percieved value in one .mp3 file to me.
.ogg format too.
On the other hand, if you had a subscription service where somebody could download whatever they wanted for a small monthly or yearly fee (less that $10.00 per month), and include the other improvements mentioned in the parent post, then you might have something that people would be willing to pay for.
I think a setup like garageband would be a great way to start.
One way to get me to pay would be to offer the files in
The old DOS library C-Worthy provided shadowing on old DOS applications (other libraries provided this as well). Before that God equipped every thing on the Earth with a nice shadow to keep everything from blending together. It's not like Windows, Mac, KDE, Gnome, etc invented shadows.
I view the sharing of music now days as a form of political protesting.
Regarding the music industry, there is a lot to protest about in my opinion. Prices are too high, quality is questionable, and the RIAA are out of control. What better place to protest and get your points across than downloading music from the internet?
So can WordPerfect now sue Microsoft for stealing its Shadow-Cursors, etc.? That seems kind of dumb to me.