These laws seem to presuppose that the robot will have a human-like mind that is capable of understanding concepts like "injure", "inaction", "human being" and "harm". Asimov was being optimistic about the ease of making an AI that was even capable of understanding these ideas, let alone applying them to the real world.
Even still, at some point we have to make a decision about what these things can and cannot do. I realise that the kind of AI you (mostly Asimov) are talking about is a very, very long way off, but we must try and get the basics correct. Which is what I think Asimov was eluding to. Otherwise the 'norm' may get out of control later (and no, I wasn't implying a superior race of killbots with a preset kill limit).
What a load of crap. Numerical analysis and subsequent algorithms are nowhere near than capacity. This is a dream and is a very, very long way off. Baaa!
Come on, chin up. I'm sure there were plenty of people that knew about the China agenda and a lot more. Probably knew this stuff before the Chinese did. Personally, I believe it is the fault of the journalists and media companies in not keeping their populations up2date. They do love to report the alarmist view. But don't worry, ours are just as bad, if not worse.
So, the United States of America is currently having to re-evaluate global positioning tactics. There is still more than your fair share of intellectual property being generated. You just have a president that isn't exactly helping national pride, or that pride emanating worldwide.
Still way ahead of what Australia could ever dream... *sigh*
What's shocking about the Chinese effort is that most folks tend to underestimate them in the progress they've made in their space program
Not shocking, nor were the Chinese ever underestimated from Australia's point of view. Our stock market has been mirroring China's more than the US markets for quite a while (read strongly in the past 3 years) now. Our current wealth has been generated by supplying them with raw materials, with a very high demand (they consume faster than we can supply) for the last 10 years. Our universities have had agreements in place for well over ten years now.
This is why it's called 'Human Colonisation', not just that of a handful of countries. Instead of Australia contributing military dollars (cough, splutter), it should be a contribution to the Colonisation project.
I'm not saying that Australia could contribute that much in respect to manufacturing (know-how, experience, etc.), but our effort could be very cheap raw materials. It'd be a start. A good one, me thinks.
To respond correctly, you have to know something about most Australians. We are criminals. Our fathers were criminals. Our grandfathers were criminals. Wait...
int IsCriminal(int generation){
if (generation == 1)
return 1;
else
return IsCriminal(generation--);
}
Lucky bastard. I lived in a unit 2.5km from Brisbane CBD and could not even get a phone line. Optus - no. Telstra - no. Perhaps I should have made the journey west.
Little boy Johnny is running scared about the upcoming election and is making a two-bit effort to 'fix' his last ten years of office. This tight-wad is only spending money because the other guy has made it a major priority to upgrade *every* household in Australia with fibre to the node. This announcement will hurt Australia's future Internet connectivity. This quick hack will bring our Internet to a bare basic level and nobody will attempt to fix it for another decade. Essentially this means that Australia will continue to live in the dark ages. Infrastructure on a national scale, like this, requires a budget similar to that of roads and shit.
Smells strangely like the same that happened to our health system.
Boo, Howard. Shame on you, you dumb-shit, Coonan. Stop pretending you know what you're talking about. "Gigabit power" - dumb-arse.
Parallelizing collision detection for instance is most likely a complete nightmare - imagine trying to decide how to split up objects so that all possible collisions take place in the same space, and yet still split up the space into equal sized units without ignoring any potential intersections.
Use token ring parallelism for this task. Block parallelism does not bode well for this type of interdependency.
But games, etc can really benefit from this. Just stick AI on 1 core, terrain on another, etc etc.
I don't develop games at all, but wouldn't that introduce a disk IO problem? Unless you had a monolith (perhaps polylith?) of system memory, the bottleneck will be the hard disks.
hmmmm.... Let me apply your formula here. Australia has a density of 2.6/km^2 with 19.2% on 'broadband' (quotes used as I don't believe that 512Kb/s is broadband - which is what by far the majority of the population with broadband is on).
19.2/2.6 = 7.385
Does this mean that we are way ahead of the US/SK/UK? I think not.
I understand the point you were trying to make but statistics is a *very* tricky subject.
I totally agree. I have the same setup with my MBP. It is a solution that works perfectly for me. I had been a Windows user for years and I'm not sure if it is true but Windows does appear to be much faster on this machine. And my normal Windows machine is a dual zeon. Plenty enough grunt.
I really like the idea of Parallels, especially with the 3D stuff now working, but I know somebody who had parallels running Windows XP and then Parallels crashed. This caused a hard disk corruption. The MacBook Pro was brand new and since we (Australia) have to send machines to the US for the warranty, it was months before it was back in his hot little hand. The sellers didn't want to touch the thing even though it was just out of the box. Unfortunately, this is why we no longer buy Mac Pros for our visualisation lab. I dearly love the machines but the ship to the US thing for the warranty makes them a terrible investment.
I think I'll steer completely free of Parallels and stick to a bootcamp ->reFit setup.
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Even still, at some point we have to make a decision about what these things can and cannot do. I realise that the kind of AI you (mostly Asimov) are talking about is a very, very long way off, but we must try and get the basics correct. Which is what I think Asimov was eluding to. Otherwise the 'norm' may get out of control later (and no, I wasn't implying a superior race of killbots with a preset kill limit).
1. A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
2. A robot must obey orders given to it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
3. A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.
Isn't this a violation? Oh, wait. It was human programming.
What about the rest of the house?
Thank god for that! So it wasn't my girlfriend shoving things into my arse at night then. Damn, will have to visit the florist this afternoon.
So, we can scratch this one from the poll then?
What a load of crap. Numerical analysis and subsequent algorithms are nowhere near than capacity. This is a dream and is a very, very long way off. Baaa!
Come on, chin up. I'm sure there were plenty of people that knew about the China agenda and a lot more. Probably knew this stuff before the Chinese did. Personally, I believe it is the fault of the journalists and media companies in not keeping their populations up2date. They do love to report the alarmist view. But don't worry, ours are just as bad, if not worse.
... *sigh*
So, the United States of America is currently having to re-evaluate global positioning tactics. There is still more than your fair share of intellectual property being generated. You just have a president that isn't exactly helping national pride, or that pride emanating worldwide.
Still way ahead of what Australia could ever dream
Not shocking, nor were the Chinese ever underestimated from Australia's point of view. Our stock market has been mirroring China's more than the US markets for quite a while (read strongly in the past 3 years) now. Our current wealth has been generated by supplying them with raw materials, with a very high demand (they consume faster than we can supply) for the last 10 years. Our universities have had agreements in place for well over ten years now.
At what point did it become shocking?
Relax. It is just a poll. Polls don't mean anything because their "sample" is from just outside the door of the company performing the poll.
I'm all like, hangin' ten on the information super-highway, man.
This is why it's called 'Human Colonisation', not just that of a handful of countries. Instead of Australia contributing military dollars (cough, splutter), it should be a contribution to the Colonisation project.
I'm not saying that Australia could contribute that much in respect to manufacturing (know-how, experience, etc.), but our effort could be very cheap raw materials. It'd be a start. A good one, me thinks.
To respond correctly, you have to know something about most Australians. We are criminals. Our fathers were criminals. Our grandfathers were criminals. Wait ...
int IsCriminal(int generation){
if (generation == 1)
return 1;
else
return IsCriminal(generation--);
}
The government is in on it as well.
Lucky bastard. I lived in a unit 2.5km from Brisbane CBD and could not even get a phone line. Optus - no. Telstra - no. Perhaps I should have made the journey west.
I totally agree. I used to live in a unit 2.5km from Brisbane CBD and I could not even get the phone connected !!!???? WTF?
Little boy Johnny is running scared about the upcoming election and is making a two-bit effort to 'fix' his last ten years of office. This tight-wad is only spending money because the other guy has made it a major priority to upgrade *every* household in Australia with fibre to the node. This announcement will hurt Australia's future Internet connectivity. This quick hack will bring our Internet to a bare basic level and nobody will attempt to fix it for another decade. Essentially this means that Australia will continue to live in the dark ages. Infrastructure on a national scale, like this, requires a budget similar to that of roads and shit.
Smells strangely like the same that happened to our health system.
Boo, Howard. Shame on you, you dumb-shit, Coonan. Stop pretending you know what you're talking about. "Gigabit power" - dumb-arse.
You still have your fair share of champions. Champions find a way to overcome obstacles to achieve their objectives. Champions also attract followers.
They'll just have to do it as the rest of them have.
Parallelizing collision detection for instance is most likely a complete nightmare - imagine trying to decide how to split up objects so that all possible collisions take place in the same space, and yet still split up the space into equal sized units without ignoring any potential intersections.
Use token ring parallelism for this task. Block parallelism does not bode well for this type of interdependency.
But games, etc can really benefit from this. Just stick AI on 1 core, terrain on another, etc etc.
I don't develop games at all, but wouldn't that introduce a disk IO problem? Unless you had a monolith (perhaps polylith?) of system memory, the bottleneck will be the hard disks.
hmmmm .... Let me apply your formula here. Australia has a density of 2.6/km^2 with 19.2% on 'broadband' (quotes used as I don't believe that 512Kb/s is broadband - which is what by far the majority of the population with broadband is on).
19.2/2.6 = 7.385
Does this mean that we are way ahead of the US/SK/UK? I think not.
I understand the point you were trying to make but statistics is a *very* tricky subject.
I play CNC3 at high quality and it has a decent frame rate on my MBP. What part of them is no good for gaming?
That was probably the funniest thing I've read in a very long time.
I totally agree. I have the same setup with my MBP. It is a solution that works perfectly for me. I had been a Windows user for years and I'm not sure if it is true but Windows does appear to be much faster on this machine. And my normal Windows machine is a dual zeon. Plenty enough grunt.
I really like the idea of Parallels, especially with the 3D stuff now working, but I know somebody who had parallels running Windows XP and then Parallels crashed. This caused a hard disk corruption. The MacBook Pro was brand new and since we (Australia) have to send machines to the US for the warranty, it was months before it was back in his hot little hand. The sellers didn't want to touch the thing even though it was just out of the box. Unfortunately, this is why we no longer buy Mac Pros for our visualisation lab. I dearly love the machines but the ship to the US thing for the warranty makes them a terrible investment.
I think I'll steer completely free of Parallels and stick to a bootcamp ->reFit setup.
>> *mostly* always
>LOL.
Whoops! Probably should of hit the preview button first. I know it tells me, but dammit, I so wrongly think I'm right. [hits 'Submit']
But the Buddhist swastika is *mostly* always clockwise whereas the Nazi Germany swastika is always counter-clockwise.
"In July 1941 with World War II looming, ..." - ????!!!!!!!
Up until 1941, the world, minus America, were just playing silly buggers.