No, the mechanic wouldn't stop you, new people become mechanics all the time.
People make their own version of star wars all the time, usually fan tributes or parodies. But, there are other laws to try and stop you from making your own exact version of the original film. (good luck at that anyway)
Finally, whatever word you want to put on it, it's still wrong.
Ok, I should have phrased it so that people should get paid for good work. Of course, if no one buys it because it's shoddy work then that is entirely the sellers problem (though stealing it is still wrong). But the excuse that "other people bought it so they still make money" is not a good excuse for stealing it. If everyone thought that way then no one would buy it, and they would quit making things.
And the analogy works. It is the same as stealing their time. They spent years working on it, just as the mechanic spent hours fixing your car. And as far as watching him and learning how to fix it. No one is stopping you, just as no one is stopping you from learning how to write and sell your own Movies/Songs/Games.
I don't understand how some people feel that others don't deserve to be paid for their work if it doesn't result in a physical product. Movies and Games take several years of many peoples time to make. You don't believe that time is worth anything? Sure they don't "lose" anything by you making a copy, but they don't make anything either. Thats the point, they invested years of their time to make the product, they should get something out of it.
except the physical DVD itself is worth about $0.25 that $15.00 - $20.00 that it cost is not for the physical disc, it's for the content on that disc, and for all the time and money that went into making it. Stealing a movie/song/game whatever, is the same as if you hired a mechanic to fix your car and the drove off and stiffed him for the payment. Sure, you didn't steal anything "physical" but you did steal the mans time, and that is just as valuable as something physical.
Drop.io is a good platform. It can be used for either personal storage or for sharing files. As far as I can tell it's secure (though I have not fully verified). The free version you can have up to 100mb per drop, or there are paid versions with more storage. And they do have a "dead mans switch" that you can set the time limit on (up to 1 year).
"I'm sorry but for me it is imperative that if they want to set this 3 year limit"
They are not setting a 3 year limit, they are saying that they guarantee that the game will be there for at least 3 years. As they said in the article there is a 99.9% chance that the game will be available much much longer than that but it is conceivable that they will not be able to keep it up after that. Once they get new servers, if the game still runs on those servers the game will continue to be available.
I do think though, that considering the possibility that the game "could" go away in 3 years that they should charge less than they do for the games. I would rather see a slightly higher monthly fee for the service and be able to play any game they have available.
And, because the lawyer only gets paid if they win, I would guess there would be a lot more lawyers willing to use more underhanded tactics than usual to get their point across.
I don't think it's about payed for XBL either. I don't think it would have too much to do with the consoles not being compatible either. Look at "Final Fantasy XI" it is on PS2, PC, and XBox 360, and they all play in the same world. Yes it may have taken a lot of work on the part of square, but it's not impossible.
I was moderating this topic, but I just had to comment on this, oh well.
Are you really serious? I mean, I suppose you might be right about it working from CD, but the whole unless you decide to install it part? What, do you expect that dell is just going to ship a live CD with each PC they sell, and say. "Here is your OS, you can't install it, and it runs kinda slow since it is running off the CD, and your video card isn't going to be very use full, but hey at least your not running windows."
I am just dumbfounded by the evangelism of the Linux fan base.
Due to it's dynamic arenas, if you wanted something in a town that had been taken over by the enemy, you could teleport to another instance and hope that it's player-controlled.
That is a terrible idea. It really defeats the purpose of having enemies be able to take over a town doesn't it?
And he was hanged by Iraqis, not Americans. Sure America captured and detained him and (arguably) tortured him, but it was Iraq that tried and hanged him. His own people not Americans.
I really don't think they are doing this to try and make more money. I really think they are just trying to kill XP. So they can make more money selling windows 7. Although, it's kind of stupid to do it now in my opinion, if they drive people off of XP before 7 is out those people will buy Vista, and then I really doubt they will buy 7 when it launches 6 months later.
From my perspective patents only serve to stifle progress
Except that without patents, if someone truly does invent something unique, they will have no chance at selling it, as a large company will just take the idea and out produce the small guy giving him no chance at success.
One of the best ways we as consumers can help fight DRM is to buy games from companies like Stardock. All of there resent releases have NO DRM. Galactic Civilizations and Sins of a Solar Empire are their big titles. Don't pirate these games. Stardock is trying to prove a point, that you don't need DRM to sell games. They believe that if you make games that people want to play, provide excellent customer service, and don't encumber them with DRM that they will sell more games, and it seems to be working. These games have no DRM at all (unless you consider typing in your product key to be intrusive DRM). There is no SecuRom, no install limits, not even a CD check. Also, they freely in the EULA give you the right to install the game on multiple computers as long as you own them and are the primary user. Most EULA's state that you are only allowed to install to one machine.
Cheers.
17-year-old defendant "had no idea at the time he hatched this plot that if he killed his parents, they would be dead forever."
I know it has been quoted already, but seriously? I mean come on. My 5 year old son understands the fact that death is forever. And he has been playing games since he was old enough to hold a controller. Hell, I taught him how to snipe the pilots out of helicopters in Mercenaries when he was two.
Also, why did the parents take the game away from the kid? My guess would be some kind of violent activity and they were taking his games away as punishment. The kid most likely had violent tendencies anyway.
Also, it seems that they are in Australian dollars. Looking at some of the prices they seemed off from the last time I opened newegg. $70.00 for 4 gigs of generic ddr2 800. I have found 4 gig kits for $20.00 and lower.
This patent seems legit to me. It is not a process patent on splitting the bill. It is a patent for a device at the patrons table where they could enter there credit card and choose how much they wish to pay. I am sure there is a patent for all those self checkout lines at every grocery store chain. This is the same thing except for restaurants and it allows multiple credit cards to be used toward paying the same bill.
You say that WoW is DRM free but it has just as much DRM as Spore, even more so really, because your account is authenticated every time you log in. For those of you that complain about Spores DRM; any MMO Sends much more info to the publisher than Spore ever will. Yes I know that they have to connect to the servers because of the nature of the game but never the less they are connecting. Also, people are so concerned with the "What if there activation servers go down" what do you think will happen should WoW's servers go down (not that they will any time soon.)
To answer the OP's question. Any games from Stardock are DRM free such as Sins of a Solar Empire, Or Galactic Civilizations II.
You should also check out this, it made me want to run out and buy more of there games just because of the way they do business.
So many people are complaining about the DRM in Spore. I was a little upset about it, but I wanted the game enough so I bought it anyway. I have not had any problems. I installed the game, put in my info, and was right in and playing no issues. So it requires an internet connection (once after install, not every time you run). Not a big deal for me, I wanted the online content anyway. Either way this is a great game and the DRM is not half as intrusive as people are making it out to be. Do I think it SHOULD be there? No. but it is and I don't feel that it is enough to stop me from enjoying it. Besides, I support Will Wright (the creator of the game) even if he is backed by EA (who is responsible for the DRM.)
My only issue is who keeps coming up with these names? "Snowl" really? Thats nearly as bas as "Cuil" I get the fact that they want to be original and stand out but I don't think using a word that makes me (and I would immagine others) not even want to look at it is the right approach. It sounds like some kind of animal. In an australian accent - "Here we are in the rain forrest tracking the deadly Snowl."
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No, the mechanic wouldn't stop you, new people become mechanics all the time. People make their own version of star wars all the time, usually fan tributes or parodies. But, there are other laws to try and stop you from making your own exact version of the original film. (good luck at that anyway) Finally, whatever word you want to put on it, it's still wrong.
Ok, I should have phrased it so that people should get paid for good work. Of course, if no one buys it because it's shoddy work then that is entirely the sellers problem (though stealing it is still wrong). But the excuse that "other people bought it so they still make money" is not a good excuse for stealing it. If everyone thought that way then no one would buy it, and they would quit making things. And the analogy works. It is the same as stealing their time. They spent years working on it, just as the mechanic spent hours fixing your car. And as far as watching him and learning how to fix it. No one is stopping you, just as no one is stopping you from learning how to write and sell your own Movies/Songs/Games.
I don't understand how some people feel that others don't deserve to be paid for their work if it doesn't result in a physical product. Movies and Games take several years of many peoples time to make. You don't believe that time is worth anything? Sure they don't "lose" anything by you making a copy, but they don't make anything either. Thats the point, they invested years of their time to make the product, they should get something out of it.
except the physical DVD itself is worth about $0.25 that $15.00 - $20.00 that it cost is not for the physical disc, it's for the content on that disc, and for all the time and money that went into making it. Stealing a movie/song/game whatever, is the same as if you hired a mechanic to fix your car and the drove off and stiffed him for the payment. Sure, you didn't steal anything "physical" but you did steal the mans time, and that is just as valuable as something physical.
Totally this. http://www.youtube.com/user/robcockerham#p/u/30/FB2_5euShD4/
Drop.io is a good platform. It can be used for either personal storage or for sharing files. As far as I can tell it's secure (though I have not fully verified). The free version you can have up to 100mb per drop, or there are paid versions with more storage. And they do have a "dead mans switch" that you can set the time limit on (up to 1 year).
"I'm sorry but for me it is imperative that if they want to set this 3 year limit" They are not setting a 3 year limit, they are saying that they guarantee that the game will be there for at least 3 years. As they said in the article there is a 99.9% chance that the game will be available much much longer than that but it is conceivable that they will not be able to keep it up after that. Once they get new servers, if the game still runs on those servers the game will continue to be available. I do think though, that considering the possibility that the game "could" go away in 3 years that they should charge less than they do for the games. I would rather see a slightly higher monthly fee for the service and be able to play any game they have available.
And, because the lawyer only gets paid if they win, I would guess there would be a lot more lawyers willing to use more underhanded tactics than usual to get their point across.
I don't think it's about payed for XBL either. I don't think it would have too much to do with the consoles not being compatible either. Look at "Final Fantasy XI" it is on PS2, PC, and XBox 360, and they all play in the same world. Yes it may have taken a lot of work on the part of square, but it's not impossible.
I was moderating this topic, but I just had to comment on this, oh well. Are you really serious? I mean, I suppose you might be right about it working from CD, but the whole unless you decide to install it part? What, do you expect that dell is just going to ship a live CD with each PC they sell, and say. "Here is your OS, you can't install it, and it runs kinda slow since it is running off the CD, and your video card isn't going to be very use full, but hey at least your not running windows." I am just dumbfounded by the evangelism of the Linux fan base.
Due to it's dynamic arenas, if you wanted something in a town that had been taken over by the enemy, you could teleport to another instance and hope that it's player-controlled.
That is a terrible idea. It really defeats the purpose of having enemies be able to take over a town doesn't it?
And he was hanged by Iraqis, not Americans. Sure America captured and detained him and (arguably) tortured him, but it was Iraq that tried and hanged him. His own people not Americans.
I really don't think they are doing this to try and make more money. I really think they are just trying to kill XP. So they can make more money selling windows 7. Although, it's kind of stupid to do it now in my opinion, if they drive people off of XP before 7 is out those people will buy Vista, and then I really doubt they will buy 7 when it launches 6 months later.
From my perspective patents only serve to stifle progress
Except that without patents, if someone truly does invent something unique, they will have no chance at selling it, as a large company will just take the idea and out produce the small guy giving him no chance at success.
One of the best ways we as consumers can help fight DRM is to buy games from companies like Stardock. All of there resent releases have NO DRM. Galactic Civilizations and Sins of a Solar Empire are their big titles. Don't pirate these games. Stardock is trying to prove a point, that you don't need DRM to sell games. They believe that if you make games that people want to play, provide excellent customer service, and don't encumber them with DRM that they will sell more games, and it seems to be working. These games have no DRM at all (unless you consider typing in your product key to be intrusive DRM). There is no SecuRom, no install limits, not even a CD check. Also, they freely in the EULA give you the right to install the game on multiple computers as long as you own them and are the primary user. Most EULA's state that you are only allowed to install to one machine. Cheers.
Wheres my mod points when I need the. Mod this dude up.
This has to be a spoof. . . If not, it's just sad. Really, Just sad.
17-year-old defendant "had no idea at the time he hatched this plot that if he killed his parents, they would be dead forever." I know it has been quoted already, but seriously? I mean come on. My 5 year old son understands the fact that death is forever. And he has been playing games since he was old enough to hold a controller. Hell, I taught him how to snipe the pilots out of helicopters in Mercenaries when he was two. Also, why did the parents take the game away from the kid? My guess would be some kind of violent activity and they were taking his games away as punishment. The kid most likely had violent tendencies anyway.
Also, it seems that they are in Australian dollars. Looking at some of the prices they seemed off from the last time I opened newegg. $70.00 for 4 gigs of generic ddr2 800. I have found 4 gig kits for $20.00 and lower.
This patent seems legit to me. It is not a process patent on splitting the bill. It is a patent for a device at the patrons table where they could enter there credit card and choose how much they wish to pay. I am sure there is a patent for all those self checkout lines at every grocery store chain. This is the same thing except for restaurants and it allows multiple credit cards to be used toward paying the same bill.
You say that WoW is DRM free but it has just as much DRM as Spore, even more so really, because your account is authenticated every time you log in. For those of you that complain about Spores DRM; any MMO Sends much more info to the publisher than Spore ever will. Yes I know that they have to connect to the servers because of the nature of the game but never the less they are connecting. Also, people are so concerned with the "What if there activation servers go down" what do you think will happen should WoW's servers go down (not that they will any time soon.)
To answer the OP's question. Any games from Stardock are DRM free such as Sins of a Solar Empire, Or Galactic Civilizations II.
You should also check out this, it made me want to run out and buy more of there games just because of the way they do business.
That is a pretty sweet idea actually.
So many people are complaining about the DRM in Spore. I was a little upset about it, but I wanted the game enough so I bought it anyway. I have not had any problems. I installed the game, put in my info, and was right in and playing no issues. So it requires an internet connection (once after install, not every time you run). Not a big deal for me, I wanted the online content anyway. Either way this is a great game and the DRM is not half as intrusive as people are making it out to be. Do I think it SHOULD be there? No. but it is and I don't feel that it is enough to stop me from enjoying it. Besides, I support Will Wright (the creator of the game) even if he is backed by EA (who is responsible for the DRM.)
Something between Lara Croft and Ivy? and yes, I am a 01100111 01100101 01100101 01101011.
My only issue is who keeps coming up with these names? "Snowl" really? Thats nearly as bas as "Cuil" I get the fact that they want to be original and stand out but I don't think using a word that makes me (and I would immagine others) not even want to look at it is the right approach. It sounds like some kind of animal. In an australian accent - "Here we are in the rain forrest tracking the deadly Snowl."