Looking at that microsoft comparison page, its amazing how most of the Linux features and such that they chose to dog on, are the ones that were implemented in order to be compatible with M$ operating systems...
and they compare web servers on `SIMILAR' hardware... I'd love to see the test on identical hardware...
not only that, but I saw quite a few stretches and clever wording and outright lies. Kinda like "redhat has only 3 certified raid controllers" "windows has hundreds of drivers for raid-related hardware". there were a lot more, I'm waiting for the inevitable rebuttal article.
a couple more: "Netmax offers Internet Server Management Suite software for remote Web- based and multiple device management for $139 per-server." ever heard of SSH? webmin? they're talking about how easy it is to remotely administer windows (with expensive add-ons). I mean....come on. this is unix we're talking about!
the "nvidia GPL" story. hey! if you don't want to tangle with the GPL, then WRITE YOUR OWN CODE!
"Linux offers support for ASP but it is non-native and requires an add-on program to Apache or some other Web server deployed on Linux." I really wasn't aware that ASP is the only technology you can use for server-side CGI.....I'm going to have to rethink some things (and I'm really wondering how my website is running...)
"No support for SSO, thus requiring end users to use at least two logon names and passwords--one for Windows and one for Linux/UNIX." I don't know how many times my roommate has told me about setting up a linux cluster to authenticate to an NT domain with samba.
anyway, post anymore that you see. I know they're there...
I tried the binary and was quite surprised just how easy it was to get into. You can slow down by moving your mouse to the right and speed up by moving it to the left. And that works rather intuïtively, I like it.
It's pretty cool.... A problem I see right off is not being able to make capital letters, and put apostrophes/commas/etc. into your words and sentences. At least, I couldn't figure out how...
seriously though, I hope they're donating beaucoup bucks to the python software foundation & GNU. it seems like they're doing mission critical stuff with this software, I'm sure they can afford to cough up some change...
I run mine in a screen session; it restarts every few hours by a cron job because of its tendency to crap out. any time I hear/think of something I want, I ssh in, type 'screen -r 2880', CTRL-A N to the next screen, and run fdb and am. By the time I get up in the morning, my new cds are waiting for me at MÆS. my only problem is needing a bigger hard drive or three:)
remember when sony released their "enhanced" POSE that had their proprietary hardware built in, and didn't release the source? Since POSE is GPL,/. was all huffy and up-in-arms about that... Well check out the link to the source on this guy's page....oh wait...that's not a link....
These machines are obviously an affordable, functional, and useful personal computing package for the 'alternative' (or perhaps just plain thrifty) user. Perhaps Red Hat or another distribution vendor should strike up a deal with Wal-Mart to bundle copies of Linux with the machines? It's been done before with not a huge amount of success, but Wal-Mart is a pretty powerful distribution mechanism, and the product already exists minus one inexpensive and 'easy-to-include' component.
well, since Mandrake already has a distribution agreement with WalMart, and since it's about 3x more user friendly than any other Linux distro, they would probably go with Mandrake in this case. But yeah, it would be an Excellent Thing.
yeah right, and the US's stockpile of nuclear arms was made simply to 'protect us' from the evil communists. we were planning for our 'defense' weren't we?
well, since we didn't use them (IE take the 'offensive'), that means that they were saved in case of attack (which is 'defense').
no compiler on any platform will compile all of the boost and loki libraries, not even gcc on linux.
ok, what is this Loki? I read "Loki" in the interview, and instantly was extremely confused. and it looks like it has 2 mentions on/., but no explanation.
Sorry but just how this is a valid excuse for charging so damned much for an Oracle license?
I'm just saying that oracle is a really nice database, and therefore they can charge what they want, and companies will buy it. and I'm sure the money they've spent on development is staggering. it's just capitalism, if you think oracle is overpriced (which it probably is), go with db2, or better yet, postgres.
Were you expecting that a classroom full of college students were going to reinvent Oracle RDBMS over the course of a single semester?
umm...no. where did I say that? I just said the class helps you see how intricate a database really is.
The state of California just bought over a quarter of a million Oracle seats. How many of those databases are probably storing cookie recipes? I don't mind paying Oracle for those things that require Oracle software, but it is ridiculous to think that you need Oracle for everything
hmm, none? they're not even using the licenses. anyway, I wasn't saying anything about cali buying all the licenses, just responding to the "oracle is technically inferior" poster.
However, according to the GT code, even discussing problems outside of class is cheating.
ok do you go here? didn't think so. now where did you pull this from? discussing problems outside of class isn't cheating. you can talk about concepts and strategies all you want. it's discussing implementation details that's cheating, as well it should be. the first two cs classes are for learning how to do things for yourself. practically every other class from there on out is working in groups or with partners.
Atlanta lacks facilities quite common in University towns one-eighth the size.
sorry, but atlanta's not a university town. have you ever been to athens? that is a university town. atlanta is a metropolis with quite a few schools located in or around it. I'm not quite sure what your expectations are...
Similarly, GA Tech is the M.I.T. of the South. It doesn't matter whether they do things to support this. What matters is that enough people believe it. I doubt it even occurs to any of the faculty or administration that teaching well and effectively is important.
hmmm, between this and the "gt weenie" I'd say you didn't go here. therefore, you're simply a troll that probably went to pawtucket state community college and couldn't last a week here. I've had a couple of bad professors who were bad simply because they were boring or too complex, and one bad grad student that just couldn't teach. otherwise, barring our english department, all my other professors have been great.
How do you think Oracle et al make these huge amounts of cash. Is it via technical excellence or flogging to muppets on the golf course.
So, who's more "technically excellent" than oracle? I'm not saying anything about the company, and I'd rather use Postgres for just about anything...but really...who has a better RDBMS than oracle, disregarding cost?
There's a lot that goes into a database; they're huge, complex creatures. try georgia tech's CS4420, "Database System Implementation". a semester of group work, and what do you have to show for it at the end? an integer-only database which can only run poorly-optimized extremely limited SELECT statements. it lends a whole new perspective of companies that sell databases. you almost start to understand why oracle charges $60,000 per processor.
I go to Georgia Tech. Yes, the student was accused of cheating. Yes, this is because he was caught cheating. Yes, the article states this, and then goes on to tell how it's "not that bad." Whoever wrote this summary of the article needs to brush up on their reading comprehension skills.
As for what happened to the student....He had a substantial amount of code (probably around 30 lines) that was verbatim with another student. As the article says, he should have not turned it in and lost the 2% instead of cheating. He can't handle responsibility for his actions so he and his dad pitch a fit and blame it on the college of computing.
Tech may not be the top CS school, but I think our program is pretty good, and their strictness when it comes to cheating only adds credence to the degree you get when you graduate from the Computer Science department. The strictness is not a reason to avoid this school, but a reason to come here.
Holy Schmolinson, that is a beautiful window manager.
if you're talking about the titlebars...yeah, that's the "Glow" decoration. the buttons do a nice color pulse-type thing.
I'm about done compiling kde3 final, just have kdeaddons and kdevelop left, basically. I also found mosfet's liquid theme, which I couldn't find before. here's a new screenshot.
anyway, kde3 is fantastic. it's not perfect, kicker crashed on me once already. but...yeah. I still love it.
oh another nice thing is it's keyboard handling. when my girlfriend comes over all she has to do is click on the "dvo" icon and the keyboard globally changes to qwerty layout. KMenuEdit has nice keybinding features...I set the shortcut of opening Konq on my home directory to Win-E, since I've been hitting that to open up explorer for so long.
I'll stop rambling now. if you appreciate a nice-looking full-featured desktop, and you have a decent machine, snag kde3. (mine runs great on a 1400 athlon w/ 640mb ram).
The transparency is nice, but I don't have it enabled.
notice the nice icons
I like the image/text previews in konq
the "dvo" icon in the tray is for keyboard layout switching
notice the weather applet in the panel...it's fantastic
decent sound schemes
hover your mouse over an mp3, it starts playing
notice the arrow on the Gaim and Gimp entries in the taskbar for popping up a window list.
anyway, a lot of these features aren't new to KDE 2.2 users, but 3.0 is a lot more polished, and I really think it's substantially quicker.
Long live Links [sourceforge.net]! (Not Lynx [browser.org])
Seriously if you've never used Links, you don't know how cool (let alone useful) texted based web browsing can be.
I use links sometimes, but I really think lynx is better. the way links tries to render tables on an 80 character console is ridiculous, the method lynx uses is a lot more useful, I think.
These tests were performed with KDE 2.2.1, XFree 4.1, Linux 2.4.8. Not the most up to date configuration, but neither is NT. The sad fact is you CAN'T GET A DECENT GUI THAT USES X TO RUN WELL ON OLDER HARDWARE IN LINUX.
if you wanna compare usability/functionality with NT4, go with KDE1, XFree3, and a 2.2 kernel.
I'm sick and tired of everybody complaining about how slow kde2 is, and they're trying to run it on a machine with as much power as a low-end TI graphing calculator. put blackbox on low-powered machines, and save kde2 for the nice desktops.
I'm using KDE3 beta3 on a 1400 athlon w/ 640megs of ram, and it is extremely snappy. I ran it for a few days, without ever shutting down multiple konsoles, evolution, mozilla, mozilla mail, gaim with 8 concurrent sign-ons, and konqueror, and it ran perfectly. I booted into windows and just tried using it with a few mozilla windows, trillian, emacs, and windows pic viewer...and it was awful. the speed decrease was inexcusable.
anyway, just another on the long list of pissing wars. I'm tired.
It is built off Blackbox 0.61.1 with some "enhancements". I really like using the tabs between windows.
I just heard about it last night, but never before that, I don't think. I mighta read about it once while perusing a blackbox site.
I may give it a try after kde3....but if it's "enhancements" slow it down, no way. that's what's so great about blackbox, it looks great and is extremely quick. but yeah...you obviously know that.
You seem to be implying that gtk is faster than QT, which from my experience (anecdotal as it is) is most certainly not true. You obviously have GTK if you're running gaim...
I like qt more....I think it's designed better...but I do think gtk may be a bit faster. even if it doesn't run faster, I'll tell you this- it sure compiles faster (at least the apps do). I usually run outta memory trying to compile C++ programs on that machine, but gaim I can compile in a reasonable amount of time. and since I have a weird setup (redhat 7.2 with xfree 3), I basically have to compile everything I use.
Slashdot Mirror
hint: try the link on IE
fun stuff to forward to coworkers in a windows-only shop...
ok you say player, the article says player...but all I'm seeing on the site is a server.
the unix player link takes me to the old regular realplayer for unix page....
and they compare web servers on `SIMILAR' hardware... I'd love to see the test on identical hardware...
not only that, but I saw quite a few stretches and clever wording and outright lies. Kinda like "redhat has only 3 certified raid controllers" "windows has hundreds of drivers for raid-related hardware". there were a lot more, I'm waiting for the inevitable rebuttal article.
a couple more: "Netmax offers Internet Server Management Suite software for remote Web- based and multiple device management for $139 per-server." ever heard of SSH? webmin? they're talking about how easy it is to remotely administer windows (with expensive add-ons). I mean....come on. this is unix we're talking about!
the "nvidia GPL" story. hey! if you don't want to tangle with the GPL, then WRITE YOUR OWN CODE!
"Linux offers support for ASP but it is non-native and requires an add-on program to Apache or some other Web server deployed on Linux." I really wasn't aware that ASP is the only technology you can use for server-side CGI.....I'm going to have to rethink some things (and I'm really wondering how my website is running...)
"No support for SSO, thus requiring end users to use at least two logon names and passwords--one for Windows and one for Linux/UNIX." I don't know how many times my roommate has told me about setting up a linux cluster to authenticate to an NT domain with samba.
anyway, post anymore that you see. I know they're there...
It's pretty cool.... A problem I see right off is not being able to make capital letters, and put apostrophes/commas/etc. into your words and sentences. At least, I couldn't figure out how...
and here's a much better one, as long as you're running KDE. passwords work, has an optional confirmation box, and even supports Tight encoding!
of course, I predicted this would happen:)
seriously though, I hope they're donating beaucoup bucks to the python software foundation & GNU. it seems like they're doing mission critical stuff with this software, I'm sure they can afford to cough up some change...
I never said it was easy. It's just higly effective, and pretty efficient. if you want easy then run windows...
I run mine in a screen session; it restarts every few hours by a cron job because of its tendency to crap out. any time I hear/think of something I want, I ssh in, type 'screen -r 2880', CTRL-A N to the next screen, and run fdb and am. By the time I get up in the morning, my new cds are waiting for me at MÆS. my only problem is needing a bigger hard drive or three:)
remember when sony released their "enhanced" POSE that had their proprietary hardware built in, and didn't release the source? Since POSE is GPL, /. was all huffy and up-in-arms about that...
Well check out the link to the source on this guy's page....oh wait...that's not a link....
well, since Mandrake already has a distribution agreement with WalMart, and since it's about 3x more user friendly than any other Linux distro, they would probably go with Mandrake in this case. But yeah, it would be an Excellent Thing.
not if you're, say, compiling C++.
well, since we didn't use them (IE take the 'offensive'), that means that they were saved in case of attack (which is 'defense').
retard
ok, what is this Loki? I read "Loki" in the interview, and instantly was extremely confused. and it looks like it has 2 mentions on /., but no explanation.
am I missing something obvious?
I'm just saying that oracle is a really nice database, and therefore they can charge what they want, and companies will buy it. and I'm sure the money they've spent on development is staggering. it's just capitalism, if you think oracle is overpriced (which it probably is), go with db2, or better yet, postgres.
Were you expecting that a classroom full of college students were going to reinvent Oracle RDBMS over the course of a single semester?
umm...no. where did I say that? I just said the class helps you see how intricate a database really is.
hmm, none? they're not even using the licenses. anyway, I wasn't saying anything about cali buying all the licenses, just responding to the "oracle is technically inferior" poster.
ok do you go here? didn't think so. now where did you pull this from? discussing problems outside of class isn't cheating. you can talk about concepts and strategies all you want. it's discussing implementation details that's cheating, as well it should be. the first two cs classes are for learning how to do things for yourself. practically every other class from there on out is working in groups or with partners.
Atlanta lacks facilities quite common in University towns one-eighth the size.
sorry, but atlanta's not a university town. have you ever been to athens? that is a university town. atlanta is a metropolis with quite a few schools located in or around it. I'm not quite sure what your expectations are...
Similarly, GA Tech is the M.I.T. of the South. It doesn't matter whether they do things to support this. What matters is that enough people believe it. I doubt it even occurs to any of the faculty or administration that teaching well and effectively is important.
hmmm, between this and the "gt weenie" I'd say you didn't go here. therefore, you're simply a troll that probably went to pawtucket state community college and couldn't last a week here. I've had a couple of bad professors who were bad simply because they were boring or too complex, and one bad grad student that just couldn't teach. otherwise, barring our english department, all my other professors have been great.
So, who's more "technically excellent" than oracle? I'm not saying anything about the company, and I'd rather use Postgres for just about anything...but really...who has a better RDBMS than oracle, disregarding cost?
There's a lot that goes into a database; they're huge, complex creatures. try georgia tech's CS4420, "Database System Implementation". a semester of group work, and what do you have to show for it at the end? an integer-only database which can only run poorly-optimized extremely limited SELECT statements. it lends a whole new perspective of companies that sell databases. you almost start to understand why oracle charges $60,000 per processor.
I go to Georgia Tech. Yes, the student was accused of cheating. Yes, this is because he was caught cheating. Yes, the article states this, and then goes on to tell how it's "not that bad." Whoever wrote this summary of the article needs to brush up on their reading comprehension skills.
As for what happened to the student....He had a substantial amount of code (probably around 30 lines) that was verbatim with another student. As the article says, he should have not turned it in and lost the 2% instead of cheating. He can't handle responsibility for his actions so he and his dad pitch a fit and blame it on the college of computing.
Tech may not be the top CS school, but I think our program is pretty good, and their strictness when it comes to cheating only adds credence to the degree you get when you graduate from the Computer Science department. The strictness is not a reason to avoid this school, but a reason to come here.
if you're talking about the titlebars...yeah, that's the "Glow" decoration. the buttons do a nice color pulse-type thing.
I'm about done compiling kde3 final, just have kdeaddons and kdevelop left, basically. I also found mosfet's liquid theme, which I couldn't find before. here's a new screenshot.
anyway, kde3 is fantastic. it's not perfect, kicker crashed on me once already. but...yeah. I still love it.
oh another nice thing is it's keyboard handling. when my girlfriend comes over all she has to do is click on the "dvo" icon and the keyboard globally changes to qwerty layout. KMenuEdit has nice keybinding features...I set the shortcut of opening Konq on my home directory to Win-E, since I've been hitting that to open up explorer for so long.
I'll stop rambling now. if you appreciate a nice-looking full-featured desktop, and you have a decent machine, snag kde3. (mine runs great on a 1400 athlon w/ 640mb ram).
The transparency is nice, but I don't have it enabled.
notice the nice icons
I like the image/text previews in konq
the "dvo" icon in the tray is for keyboard layout switching
notice the weather applet in the panel...it's fantastic
decent sound schemes
hover your mouse over an mp3, it starts playing
notice the arrow on the Gaim and Gimp entries in the taskbar for popping up a window list.
anyway, a lot of these features aren't new to KDE 2.2 users, but 3.0 is a lot more polished, and I really think it's substantially quicker.
Seriously if you've never used Links, you don't know how cool (let alone useful) texted based web browsing can be.
I use links sometimes, but I really think lynx is better. the way links tries to render tables on an 80 character console is ridiculous, the method lynx uses is a lot more useful, I think.
if you wanna compare usability/functionality with NT4, go with KDE1, XFree3, and a 2.2 kernel.
I'm sick and tired of everybody complaining about how slow kde2 is, and they're trying to run it on a machine with as much power as a low-end TI graphing calculator. put blackbox on low-powered machines, and save kde2 for the nice desktops.
I'm using KDE3 beta3 on a 1400 athlon w/ 640megs of ram, and it is extremely snappy. I ran it for a few days, without ever shutting down multiple konsoles, evolution, mozilla, mozilla mail, gaim with 8 concurrent sign-ons, and konqueror, and it ran perfectly. I booted into windows and just tried using it with a few mozilla windows, trillian, emacs, and windows pic viewer...and it was awful. the speed decrease was inexcusable.
anyway, just another on the long list of pissing wars. I'm tired.
It is built off Blackbox 0.61.1 with some "enhancements". I really like using the tabs between windows.
I just heard about it last night, but never before that, I don't think. I mighta read about it once while perusing a blackbox site.
I may give it a try after kde3....but if it's "enhancements" slow it down, no way. that's what's so great about blackbox, it looks great and is extremely quick. but yeah...you obviously know that.
I like qt more....I think it's designed better...but I do think gtk may be a bit faster. even if it doesn't run faster, I'll tell you this- it sure compiles faster (at least the apps do). I usually run outta memory trying to compile C++ programs on that machine, but gaim I can compile in a reasonable amount of time. and since I have a weird setup (redhat 7.2 with xfree 3), I basically have to compile everything I use.