I can't figure out if this is supposed to be funny or not? Of course I can run a phone line to a neighbor--hell, if I wanted to I could share a phone line with ALL my neighbors. It's OK!
For that matter, I do think it's OK to run Fiber all over my neighborhood too as long as I don't hook it into my comcast modem.
>I think the target demographic for these films >has changed a little since the original trilogy.
No it hasn't, we've just grown out of it. It's always been targetted at pre-teens and young teens, just because a bunch of geeks want to think that it's targetted at an older generation so as to not feel bad about watching it doesn't make it so.
That's a limitation of the USB Bus, the things are just slow. I bought a 10gig external USB drive, but never use it because of that.
On the other hand, there is a faster version of the USB bus out now, maybe they'll start upgrading and make these things truly useful.
(If you're just trying to bring home things you downloaded at work, it's a great idea since you're probably not downloading much faster than you could write)
A few years ago I came across a post on/. relating to something called "Programmers Stone", A set of documents helping programmers understand why they are different from most of the people they have to deal with.
It turned into a set of papers on Autism, ADD and Geeks and how they think differently from those who aren't.
Overall, this is a fantastic set of papers and I don't think you'll find better insight into these issues anywhere. If you are ADD, have a child who is ADD or possibly Autistic or you are just a programmer who would like to understand why his boss seems inconsistant at times--I can't recommend these papers more highly.
Don't use a car to be cool. I've never had a car stolen, I just don't buy cars for status. I don't have fancy locks or anything (well, my jeep came with one of those FOB things, I just put it into Valet mode and haven't touched it since, maybe I'll enable it if I ever go to TJ...)
If you bought a car where the key costs more than $6 to copy, you're part of the problem. Trade it in and buy a Saturn. If you're really afraid of it being stolen because of your area--mount a custom killswitch somewhere. Problem solved.
It's funny how often I've come across C++ programmers who said things like this before they used Java.
After using java for a month or so, it's really fun to hear them piss and moan about having to go back to C/C++
Generally, the first thing that starts to convince the hardcore C/C++ hackers that java isn't just a glorified C++ Clone is when they start to use the Reflection package.
The libraries can be a bit daunting at first, I can understand why you were overwhelmed, But if you start here:
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.3/docs/api/index.html
and study one package at a time (in order of interest) it really isn't bad. It's just that most of those things in C/C++ that you'd have to buy or create externally are already built into Java's default class library.
This is actually a huge advantage, by the way, since all the packages are integrated with each other and operate consistantly.
I used C/C++ for quite a few years before moving to Java, and after the first few weeks of Java I never looked back. I'm working for an all-java company now, and couldn't imagine moving back to C++ (I'd use C if it were necessary).
Now, by the way. You are evaluating how "Java Programmers" use names by something from your wife's class. Do you really think this is fair? Our company policy is the shortest descriptive name you can come up with... period.
Also, javac has become AMAZINGLY adept at telling you exactally where an error is, and is right so often that when it isn't I'm completely shocked. In fact, the only time I can remember that this happened, I was using one of the open-source java compilers, not javac.
I would think the trick would be mining raw materials and doing all the processing in space for use in space projects. IE: Decrease the ammount of material we're putting into space.
Secondly, if you DID want the materials on earth, I would think it would be nearly free to bring it back. For small ammounts you could just load up the shuttle (It usually leaves cargo in space anyway, must have some extra weight allowance). For large ammounts just mold it into a large, hollow cone or sphere shaped nugget so the atmosphere will slow it down--After it's going slow enough, deploy a huge parachute and drop it into the drink. Retrieve at your leisure.
On top of that excellent point, I'd just love to know what percentage actually goes to ANY artist and what happens to get eaten by the RIAA along the way.
My guess would be something like a 35%/65% artist/RIAA ratio. Anyone know how we could find out?
This holographic approach suggests a method of web encryption using multiple hop paths and ping times to create a message which can only be decoded when received at a specific target node!"
Two problems with this statement--
#1: anyone listening at the source ISP (Like carnivore?) would get everything, and
#2: The paths would tend to converge, you could TRY to use different routes, but they'd all converge on one of the cross-country links more likely than not.
If we wanted to do this in a GUI it would be trivial. The problem is, nobody wants to do it. Most things that we would have used text processing tools and piping for is now built into one program or another (Excel & Word can probably do 90% of what used to be done with piping and unix text utilities).
When you're working with a GUI, all of a sudden you're thinking in terms of folders and objects. You're thinking about how to solve your task and not how to get your data into format x so it can be pushed into program y.
If you really want the equivilent of piping, just make it. Write a little program that allows you to connect unix programs with lines, and then dump a document in the top. I'm sure this has been done, but of course nobody uses it because it really doesn't solve todays problems.
The article stated that issues LIKE file extensions--small things that are so standard and obvious that nobody concerns themselves with them--are the things that help MS retain their monopoly status.
To everyone who said "This is no big deal", or "It can be fixed this way"--I have trouble believeing you actually read the article. He essentially said that this was one of many SMALL easily fixed little things that add up to a big problem.
It looks like it was sending significant messages between two machines, but it looked more connection oriented.
First of all, there were only two machines involved, I'm not sure if the stuff they demoed was designed to work with more than two, but it didn't look like it.
Secondly, it all looked like you connected to another machine then sent the message to the other user. I don't think they had the concept of addressing another user at another machine and letting the system do the transport work.
Whenever I see arguments about Nuclear power, it always looks like a religous issue to me. For some reason, there are people who think that it's completely insane not to have nuclear power, and that there is no reasonable alternative possible.
I'd really like to know where this comes from. Regardless of if it's true or not, it's certianly an issue that is not black and white (ask any of the portlanders that had to pay to shut down the Trojan plant a few years ago how they feel about it--it was the power companies decision too..not any environmental concerns)
So why is this question so bloody important to some people? What do they expect to gain either personally or as a country--even if they are right and the whole world agrees with them?
And yet the question is as important to them as the evolution issue is to Christians.
Although our collective stock options aren't what they used to be, I think it would be interesting to allow a single group (like the EFF) to be our proxy agent in all votes.
This is a fairly significant power that most of us aren't using. If this voting was done in a block, we would not only significantly effect industry but we could also use that influence change government (Sometimes it seems like all they listen to is industry anyway)
The other way involves setting up a new political party--one where the politicans would place all issues on the net (in a forum like/.) for discussion and voting. This would not supplant the current republic but work within it.
Politicans would become figureheads--placeholders for our votes.
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If you think that the mistakes you mentioned are as easy to make in other languages, then you really haven't tried many other languages.
Both of your examples are impossible in java (and any other reasonable language) and are pretty much exactally the reason that C is problematic.
By the way, I love C for certian purposes, it's just that your message was so--well if it was bait I fell for it.
I can't figure out if this is supposed to be funny or not? Of course I can run a phone line to a neighbor--hell, if I wanted to I could share a phone line with ALL my neighbors. It's OK!
For that matter, I do think it's OK to run Fiber all over my neighborhood too as long as I don't hook it into my comcast modem.
There is a satellite system that will do it, both ways (up and down), not the old one where you need the phone.
And it's about $60/month. Big initial investment though ($600-1000) which is why it's probably not advertised more.
I forget what it's called--ask your local satelite installer.
>I think the target demographic for these films >has changed a little since the original trilogy.
No it hasn't, we've just grown out of it. It's always been targetted at pre-teens and young teens, just because a bunch of geeks want to think that it's targetted at an older generation so as to not feel bad about watching it doesn't make it so.
That's a limitation of the USB Bus, the things are just slow. I bought a 10gig external USB drive, but never use it because of that.
On the other hand, there is a faster version of the USB bus out now, maybe they'll start upgrading and make these things truly useful.
(If you're just trying to bring home things you downloaded at work, it's a great idea since you're probably not downloading much faster than you could write)
Most PDA's seem to be around 8 meg for $100. Even if you ignore the overhead, that's 125 PDAs, or $12,500 to replace one $900 keychain.
A few years ago I came across a post on /. relating to something called "Programmers Stone", A set of documents helping programmers understand why they are different from most of the people they have to deal with.
It turned into a set of papers on Autism, ADD and Geeks and how they think differently from those who aren't.
Overall, this is a fantastic set of papers and I don't think you'll find better insight into these issues anywhere. If you are ADD, have a child who is ADD or possibly Autistic or you are just a programmer who would like to understand why his boss seems inconsistant at times--I can't recommend these papers more highly.
http://www.reciprocality.org/Reciprocality/
Don't use a car to be cool. I've never had a car stolen, I just don't buy cars for status. I don't have fancy locks or anything (well, my jeep came with one of those FOB things, I just put it into Valet mode and haven't touched it since, maybe I'll enable it if I ever go to TJ...)
If you bought a car where the key costs more than $6 to copy, you're part of the problem. Trade it in and buy a Saturn. If you're really afraid of it being stolen because of your area--mount a custom killswitch somewhere. Problem solved.
It's funny how often I've come across C++ programmers who said things like this before they used Java.
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After using java for a month or so, it's really fun to hear them piss and moan about having to go back to C/C++
Generally, the first thing that starts to convince the hardcore C/C++ hackers that java isn't just a glorified C++ Clone is when they start to use the Reflection package.
The libraries can be a bit daunting at first, I can understand why you were overwhelmed, But if you start here:
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.3/docs/api/index.htm
and study one package at a time (in order of interest) it really isn't bad. It's just that most of those things in C/C++ that you'd have to buy or create externally are already built into Java's default class library.
This is actually a huge advantage, by the way, since all the packages are integrated with each other and operate consistantly.
I used C/C++ for quite a few years before moving to Java, and after the first few weeks of Java I never looked back. I'm working for an all-java company now, and couldn't imagine moving back to C++ (I'd use C if it were necessary).
Now, by the way. You are evaluating how "Java Programmers" use names by something from your wife's class. Do you really think this is fair? Our company policy is the shortest descriptive name you can come up with... period.
Also, javac has become AMAZINGLY adept at telling you exactally where an error is, and is right so often that when it isn't I'm completely shocked. In fact, the only time I can remember that this happened, I was using one of the open-source java compilers, not javac.
and you've got the ultimate Battle Bot! Of course, I doubt it could win as much as it makes at it's current job...
I would think the trick would be mining raw materials and doing all the processing in space for use in space projects. IE: Decrease the ammount of material we're putting into space.
Secondly, if you DID want the materials on earth, I would think it would be nearly free to bring it back. For small ammounts you could just load up the shuttle (It usually leaves cargo in space anyway, must have some extra weight allowance). For large ammounts just mold it into a large, hollow cone or sphere shaped nugget so the atmosphere will slow it down--After it's going slow enough, deploy a huge parachute and drop it into the drink. Retrieve at your leisure.
On top of that excellent point, I'd just love to know what percentage actually goes to ANY artist and what happens to get eaten by the RIAA along the way.
My guess would be something like a 35%/65% artist/RIAA ratio. Anyone know how we could find out?
As a younger coder, if you have problems reading FORTRAN code, then that's absolutely the best thing you could be doing with your time.
You should be able to read any reasonable language(except, perhaps APL), developing that talent can't be a waste of time.
This holographic approach suggests a method of web encryption using multiple hop paths and ping times to create a message which can only be decoded when received at a specific target node!"
Two problems with this statement--
#1: anyone listening at the source ISP (Like carnivore?) would get everything, and
#2: The paths would tend to converge, you could TRY to use different routes, but they'd all converge on one of the cross-country links more likely than not.
I just bought a camera on sale at Frys for $20--no rebate either, it was $30 off a $50 camera. It also included cabling and software.
How is $16 for something you essentially rent better?
Hmm, What an awesom idea--what would it take to make a viral lego robot? Is anyone working on this yet?
Piping generally connected text.
If we wanted to do this in a GUI it would be trivial. The problem is, nobody wants to do it. Most things that we would have used text processing tools and piping for is now built into one program or another (Excel & Word can probably do 90% of what used to be done with piping and unix text utilities).
When you're working with a GUI, all of a sudden you're thinking in terms of folders and objects. You're thinking about how to solve your task and not how to get your data into format x so it can be pushed into program y.
If you really want the equivilent of piping, just make it. Write a little program that allows you to connect unix programs with lines, and then dump a document in the top. I'm sure this has been done, but of course nobody uses it because it really doesn't solve todays problems.
The article stated that issues LIKE file extensions--small things that are so standard and obvious that nobody concerns themselves with them--are the things that help MS retain their monopoly status.
To everyone who said "This is no big deal", or "It can be fixed this way"--I have trouble believeing you actually read the article. He essentially said that this was one of many SMALL easily fixed little things that add up to a big problem.
Does anyone actually disagree with this?
E:FC and Star Trek couldn't have been in the same universe unless he wrote E:FC just after the first StarTrek series completed.
It's been clear in the ST universe for a long time that Vulcans were the first who contacted humanity.
And why the hell would we be flying around in something as clunky as the Enterprise if we'd seen those awesom little speedsters in E:FC?
It looks like it was sending significant messages between two machines, but it looked more connection oriented.
First of all, there were only two machines involved, I'm not sure if the stuff they demoed was designed to work with more than two, but it didn't look like it.
Secondly, it all looked like you connected to another machine then sent the message to the other user. I don't think they had the concept of addressing another user at another machine and letting the system do the transport work.
Actually C is all about making the C compilier as simple as possible. For the most part, the terseness is a result of this.
Actually, the trinary operator is extremely useful and can clean up code if used right. Also, it exists in Java.
I truly don't care about the issues. I do, but it's a completely different matter. What I asked was, why is the issue so critical to some?
I would add more, but it was all in my original post.
Whenever I see arguments about Nuclear power, it always looks like a religous issue to me. For some reason, there are people who think that it's completely insane not to have nuclear power, and that there is no reasonable alternative possible.
I'd really like to know where this comes from. Regardless of if it's true or not, it's certianly an issue that is not black and white (ask any of the portlanders that had to pay to shut down the Trojan plant a few years ago how they feel about it--it was the power companies decision too..not any environmental concerns)
So why is this question so bloody important to some people? What do they expect to gain either personally or as a country--even if they are right and the whole world agrees with them?
And yet the question is as important to them as the evolution issue is to Christians.
Although our collective stock options aren't what they used to be, I think it would be interesting to allow a single group (like the EFF) to be our proxy agent in all votes.
/.) for discussion and voting. This would not supplant the current republic but work within it.
This is a fairly significant power that most of us aren't using. If this voting was done in a block, we would not only significantly effect industry but we could also use that influence change government (Sometimes it seems like all they listen to is industry anyway)
The other way involves setting up a new political party--one where the politicans would place all issues on the net (in a forum like
Politicans would become figureheads--placeholders for our votes.