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Google+ Registers 25 Million Visitors

hypnosec writes "Google Inc.'s new social networking platform Google+ is one of the first to boast of more than 25 million users in less than one month of the launch. Market research firm comScore in its latest report has revealed that Google+, which was launched to masses in late June, has managed more than 25 million visitors in a month and is recording around a million unique visits every day." I've been using G+ for awhile now, but since the grandparents will never leave Facebook, I'm still stuck with 2 systems.

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  1. Apps by Nos. · · Score: 1

    Question is, when will it be available for those of us on Google Apps. I really don't want to have to sign into google with two different accounts all the time.

    1. Re:Apps by nitehawk214 · · Score: 2

      2 different accounts? Try having a work address that is hosted by Gmail and a separate personal Gmail. Then try using any Google services such as youtube. Completely impossible unless you use 2 separate browsers.

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    2. Re:Apps by MetalliQaZ · · Score: 2

      2 different accounts? Try having a work address that is hosted by Gmail and a separate personal Gmail. Then try using any Google services such as youtube. Completely impossible unless you use 2 separate browsers.

      THIS. Why, why, why is it so difficult to manage accounts?

      I'm sure Google would say that they need to be able to manage each person with a single, dedicated account. However, that doesn't explain why they still offer their services to the anonymous masses, and it doesn't take into account your work situation. It also doesn't cover the "me and girlfriend use the same computer off-and-on all day long -- bouncing back and forth between accounts" problem.

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    3. Re:Apps by Splab · · Score: 1

      B.S!

      Yeah, it's a friggin pain in the butt, but by no means impossible with one browser. I have google apps for personal and company mail and I have a std. gmail account for youtube.

      It' is by all means possible, just annoying. (Just remember to enable multiple logins)

    4. Re:Apps by Jmc23 · · Score: 2

      It also doesn't cover the "me and girlfriend use the same computer off-and-on all day long -- bouncing back and forth between accounts" problem.

      Multi-users on one pc is the responsability of your OS and nowadays which OS doesn't provide this?

      I just hate the way they handle language settings.

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    5. Re:Apps by Bloodwine77 · · Score: 1

      You do not need two separate browsers if you use the multi-signon feature in your Google accounts. That gotcha is you can't have both open at the same time, but you can quickly switch between them.

      I have a Gmail-hosted work address and also a personal Gmail address.

      When in Gmail, click on your email address on the top Google bar and select "Account Settings" and on that page under the "Personal Settings" section you will see a "Multiple sign-in" option. Set this option to "On". Do the same for all Gmail accounts that you want to switch between.

      Then, when ever you are using Gmail you can click on your email address in the top Google bar and next to "Sign out" will be a link that says, "Switch Account". You use that to switch between your 2 or more Gmail accounts.

      It isn't as cumbersome as my wall of text above would have you believe, and the only real drawback is that you can't view more than one inbox at the same time like you could in the old Gmail (I used to have each Gmail account in separate Firefox tabs before Google changed to the new mechanism).

    6. Re:Apps by horza · · Score: 1

      Why oh why oh why is CookieSwap still not compatible with Firefox 4?

      Phillip.

    7. Re:Apps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Incognito, InPrivate, aka "Porn mode" isn't just for porn....

    8. Re:Apps by IAmGarethAdams · · Score: 1

      You can turn on "Multiple sign-in" from your account settings page to get this to work: http://www.google.com/support/accounts/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=181599

    9. Re:Apps by nitehawk214 · · Score: 1

      Multi-signon does not work if you have a @somethingnotgmail.com address hosted by gmail.

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    10. Re:Apps by Bloodwine77 · · Score: 1

      Yes it does, at least for me. My Gmail-hosted work address is @mycompanyname.com

      However, you have to log in to your @somethingnotgmail.com email account first, and THEN switch to your @gmail.com email address(es). So we're both right, in that you can do it, but Google really needs to improve the functionality to allow you to log in to @somethingnotgmail.com as one of your other email addresses when trying to switch. I also have noticed that when I log out of my @mycompanyname.com email address that Gmail now takes me to the generic @gmail.com login form, so I can not quickly log out and then back in which is lame.

      Theoretically it should be an easy fix. All they would have to do is allow you to enter your full whatever@notsomethinggmail.com in the Username field and use behind-the-scenes logic to log you in to right account. For completeness and consistency, the Username field would also accept whatever@gmail.com and just ignore the "@gmail.com" portion of the username and log you in to your regular, generic Gmail address. Why it doesn't already work like that is beyond me.

    11. Re:Apps by rotide · · Score: 1

      I've had success using separate browsers for work and non-work. Pop in chrome for non-work email. Cookies stay separate.

    12. Re:Apps by Dishevel · · Score: 1

      Multi-signon does not work if you have a @somethingnotgmail.com address hosted by gmail.

      It does, sort of.
      I administer a google apps someone@ourcompany.com account. I use my work account plus the admin account.
      I also have a personal gmail account.
      I can easily switch between accounts in a single browser.
      Not so easy is making google see my personal account when logging into google+.
      When both are logged in it almost always wants to use my @companyname.com account instead of my personal.
      So I use separate browsers in Mint and it seems to work much better.

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    13. Re:Apps by robmv · · Score: 1

      it works if the domain admin has started the Google accounts transition. It is planed that this will be done automatically soon. Take note that the domain admin can control what Google services you will be able to use with you domain account

    14. Re:Apps by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      Yes, I havn't used Google+ because I have a Google App account and I really don't want to have an other gmail account for the sake using G+.

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    15. Re:Apps by Richard_at_work · · Score: 2

      Thats completely wrong, I have three non-GMail domains hosted on separate Apps For Domains accounts, and my own Gmail account - all work perfectly fine under multi-signon. I have absolutely no problems at all switching between the sessions.

    16. Re:Apps by nitehawk214 · · Score: 2

      Thanks, I will check on this. I guess everyone else replying "it works fine, you are dumb", must have already gone through this.

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    17. Re:Apps by Bloodwine77 · · Score: 1

      They either added that functionality when they recently upgraded Gmail, or I somehow missed that functionality for all those years.

      I just tested it and you are right. I swear it didn't used to work, though.

    18. Re:Apps by Bloodwine77 · · Score: 1

      Well, it is worth being called an idiot if it means I no longer have to keep track of the mail.google.com/hosted/* URLs and I can just use the generic Gmail login URL for everything.

    19. Re:Apps by nathan+s · · Score: 1

      This. I use the incognito mode in Chrome to run my personal account and the main window to run my work account. Makes it pretty easy to use two at the same time, although incognito windows seem to share sessions so you can't run more than two just by opening extra incognito windows.

      Incognito is also useful in development, when you want to log in as some test user to a system and then clear the cookies but be able to stay logged in as an admin user at the same time. Pretty much any case where you might want two sets of cookies, it comes in handy...

    20. Re:Apps by ap7 · · Score: 1

      You can have both accounts open at the same time too. Just open the other email account from the 'Switch Account' dialog box in a new tab or window.

    21. Re:Apps by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      The lazy one that does not set up multiple user accounts.

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    22. Re:Apps by Rob+the+Bold · · Score: 1

      you're an idiot.

      You could save the time it takes to type this dozens of times a day if you made it your sig . . .

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    23. Re:Apps by CharlyFoxtrot · · Score: 2, Funny

      I have google apps for personal and company mail and I have a std.

      +1 unfortunate use of abbreviation

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    24. Re:Apps by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      No he couldn't. He creates a new account for every post, to avoid the fact that he is always modded down for being rude and behaving like an asshat and so has terrible karma in all of his accounts, so adding a sig wouldn't save any time. Still, he does a valuable service in proving that just because your real name (or, at least, someone's real name) is associated with an account does not mean that you will behave like a polite member of society and not a vitriol-spewing child.

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    25. Re:Apps by hedwards · · Score: 1

      Traditionally the way that's handled is with separate user accounts. If folks aren't willing to do that, I'm not sure how the computer is supposed to know which accounts to access.

    26. Re:Apps by Rob+the+Bold · · Score: 1

      ur mum's face couldn't.

      i did not create a new account for this post. you're an idiot. tell more lies. the fact is you're a liar. you lie. either you know you're lying, or your an idiot. the fact is either you know you're lying, or your an idiot.

      you provide an invaluable service in proving that just because a fake name is associate with an account does not mean that you won't be an idiot or a liar or both.

      cower in my shadow some more behind your chosen aviary based pseudonym, feeb.

      you're completely pathetic.

      I wonder if this could be done with a random insult generator combined with Elisa's evil twin . . .

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    27. Re:Apps by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      I think it uses a similar approach to Eliza. For example, posts containing 'He something' often get a reply starting with 'ur moms face something. There's also a recurring 'cower in my shadow some more behind your {part of speech detection algorithm result} based pseudonym, feeb.' Most of the rest of its posts are pretty simple pattern matching on the post that it replies to. It wouldn't take more than a hundred lines of Prolog to implement something with the same behaviour.

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    28. Re:Apps by nschubach · · Score: 1

      I've heard more than once that people do not want multiple user accounts because "so-and-so might be trying to hide something from me."
      That's how some people think. Of course, there's also people who think: "I have nothing to hide, we can share the same login." So you have that to account for.

      I'm not saying it's right, but given the option, people tend to avoid "splitting" their PC into two accounts.

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    29. Re:Apps by jigamo · · Score: 1

      If you're having trouble with multiple sign-ins, another option is to use the browser's private mode for a second session. I'm not sure how well this works in IE or Firefox, but in Chrome the private session is isolated from the main one and runs at the same time as the main session. I haven't tested this extensively, but it's allowed me to open both my Gmail and Google Apps accounts at the same time.

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    30. Re:Apps by Pentavirate · · Score: 1

      Put the same password on both accounts. Alternatively, my wife and I use the gmail imap access and Live Mail syncs both accounts at the same time.

    31. Re:Apps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why aren't you just using an email client? You could get both your personal and company email at the same time and automatically divided into separate folders.

    32. Re:Apps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It wouldn't take more than a hundred lines of Prolog to implement something with the same mental capacity

      FTFY

    33. Re:Apps by stilz2 · · Score: 1

      You can enable 'Multiple Sign-in' by going to http://www.google.com/accounts/

    34. Re:Apps by Zebedeu · · Score: 1

      I just hate the way they handle language settings.

      This. A thousand times this!
      Just stop with the geo-location bullshit and respect my browser configuration!

    35. Re:Apps by RobertM1968 · · Score: 1

      Wow, there's an option in Google Accounts Preferences that enables multiple accounts being open at once in the same window, in different tabs - and works with almost all Google Services. I use 2-3 Google accounts at once.

      The "wow" part is it's obvious, like other Google tools and capabilities, that Google is lacking in disseminating the info to everyone. Glad it's not just me (just found the feature last month).

    36. Re:Apps by hedwards · · Score: 1

      In that case they've got no right to bitch about things being intermingled. Personally I think those folks ought to be consulting with either a marriage counselor or a divorce attorney because that's a dysfunctional or possibly abusive marriage.

    37. Re:Apps by Splab · · Score: 1

      Touché.

  2. Another milestone not mentioned by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 1

    It is the only product to reach 25 million users while still be beta stage. Wait. Is gmail out of beta yet?

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    1. Re:Another milestone not mentioned by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      FarmVille reached this very quickly while in beta stage a long time ago :p

    2. Re:Another milestone not mentioned by HarrySquatter · · Score: 1

      Is gmail out of beta yet?

      Yeah. 2 years ago.

    3. Re:Another milestone not mentioned by rubycodez · · Score: 5, Funny

      ah, so it's a Release Candidate now

    4. Re:Another milestone not mentioned by bonch · · Score: 1

      No, it's not. By the way, it's telling that there are only a million unique daily visits, much less than the claimed number of registered users. Google Buzz also achieved millions of users in a very short time but lost momentum as the novelty wore off and people stopped using the service.

    5. Re:Another milestone not mentioned by blair1q · · Score: 1

      Facebook isn't out of beta yet.

    6. Re:Another milestone not mentioned by djh2400 · · Score: 1

      No, it's not.

      It is not clear to me whether you are referring to Gmail being out of beta or G+ being the "only product to reach 25M users while still in beta", but here's the source on Gmail being out of beta.

    7. Re:Another milestone not mentioned by RobertM1968 · · Score: 1

      No, it's not. By the way, it's telling that there are only a million unique daily visits, much less than the claimed number of registered users. Google Buzz also achieved millions of users in a very short time but lost momentum as the novelty wore off and people stopped using the service.

      That statistic does not seem to take into account mobile use (which is largely how I and others use G+).

  3. I don't use Gmail either. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was never sent an invite... Forever Alone.

    1. Re:I don't use Gmail either. by sakdoctor · · Score: 1

      I would send you an invite, but I'm so cool that I've already quit.
      Too mainstream you see.

  4. Facebook and Twitter integration by modmans2ndcoming · · Score: 1

    You can use "Start Google Plus" addon to chrome to allow you to view and interact with your Facebook and twitter stream in Google Plus, as well as post to those services when you post something to Google+.

    1. Re:Facebook and Twitter integration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Correction, you used to be able to. Now to get any of it to actually work you have to pay $3 a month.

    2. Re:Facebook and Twitter integration by JonahsDad · · Score: 1

      Correction, you used to be able to. Now to get any of it to actually work you have to pay $3 a month.

      Not true. The simple Facebook/Twitter stuff works just fine. Ok, worked just fine until the Google+ update yesterday that broke it.

    3. Re:Facebook and Twitter integration by Octorian · · Score: 2

      And as someone who often posts to Facebook/Twitter from places other than a desktop web browser (often Twitter first, with an FB app to pick it up), I find this a completely worthless solution. However, I have yet to hear of another option.

    4. Re:Facebook and Twitter integration by m.ducharme · · Score: 1

      And is again working fine. Beta update is available, approximately one hour until it hits the store.

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    5. Re:Facebook and Twitter integration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One other option would be to get a life.. Seriously, you need to post to Twitter, facebook and G+ that you just took a shit? You must hate that it that slashdot doesnt upload your Karma to your TwitFace+ wall.

    6. Re:Facebook and Twitter integration by Pieroxy · · Score: 1

      You must hate that it that slashdot doesnt upload your Karma to your TwitFace+ wall.

      What makes you think it doesn't ?

    7. Re:Facebook and Twitter integration by fermion · · Score: 1

      Which begs the question how many of these users are fake accounts created by Newt Gingrich's PR team.

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    8. Re:Facebook and Twitter integration by modmans2ndcoming · · Score: 1

      hootsuite.

      iphone/ipod and android app.

  5. Grandparrents by TyFoN · · Score: 4, Funny

    Do as I did, only post baby photos on g+ and lure with hangouts with the baby :)

    1. Re:Grandparrents by eln · · Score: 1

      Brilliant!

      Can you recommend a good baby rental agency?

    2. Re:Grandparrents by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do as I did, only post baby photos on g+ and lure with hangouts with the baby :)

      Crap. Now I have to have a baby? Can I use anybodies baby? Will a kitten work?

    3. Re:Grandparrents by hobbes75 · · Score: 1

      worked for me

    4. Re:Grandparrents by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      NAMBLA?

    5. Re:Grandparrents by GodfatherofSoul · · Score: 1

      OK, so where'd you steal the baby from?

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    6. Re:Grandparrents by aztracker1 · · Score: 2

      Nice idea.. Picassa integration alone is a huge +1

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  6. Stuck on two systems? Try Start Google+ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    The Start Google+ plugin links your g+ and Facebook accounts. What you post to g+ gets cross-posted to FaceBook, and it can integrate your FaceBook feed into your g+ stream. It's worked well for me so far.

  7. So...google apps folks? by grasshoppa · · Score: 1

    Still no profiles/google+ for us Apps folks.

    Seems somewhat wrong that paying customers get left in the lurch as often as we do.

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    1. Re:So...google apps folks? by Aeiri · · Score: 1

      It worked for me with a Google Apps account for the first week or two, then I got kicked off (not banned). I am really confused about that as the technology seem to work just fine.

    2. Re:So...google apps folks? by bberens · · Score: 1

      Consider it like using the long term support version of Redhat or Ubuntu. The people willing to accept all the risk get the new whizbang features. Once the kinks have been ironed out you'll get it too.

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    3. Re:So...google apps folks? by anjin-san+3 · · Score: 1

      It's still in pretty early beta. Perhaps Google feels paying customers deserve tested and mature products.

    4. Re:So...google apps folks? by vlm · · Score: 1

      Still no profiles/google+ for us Apps folks.

      Seems somewhat wrong that paying customers get left in the lurch as often as we do.

      You can keep us ipad and ipod touch users company. The app only installs on the iphone, although supposedly it works on anything you can ram it into.

      If you have osx 10.6 (which I do not) then you can install the iphone configurator utility and violently force it to install, at which point I've heard it works perfectly. If anyone has a suggestion that forces the G+ app onto an ipod touch or ipad, that doesn't require osx 10.6 or newer, then let me know.

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    5. Re:So...google apps folks? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Still no profiles/google+ for us Apps folks.

      What? I've sent invite to multiple people from my work to Apps addresses, and they had no problem using google+

    6. Re:So...google apps folks? by para_droid · · Score: 1

      There are two sorts of Google Apps accounts. If you had an old account and had never chosen to upgrade to the newer kind, it worked. However a couple of weeks ago Google forcibly upgraded everyone to the newer kind. Apparently it is still possible to login to the old account using a username like this: user%domain.com@gtempaccount.com but I haven't tried it.

    7. Re:So...google apps folks? by edmicman · · Score: 1

      This. I "host" email on Google Apps accounts for friends and family. Granted it's the free version but all the same, they aren't able to create Google profiles attached to the hosted accounts. They can make account profiles separate from the Google Apps domain accounts, but then they'll have to manage multiple accounts and it's a mess. Multiple people have said when I've sent invites that they don't want to mess with creating a new one, especially if *eventually* Google will allow them to use it with their existing Apps account. As soon as they turn that on I'll get a number of additional friends and family on there, but until then I'm stuck.

    8. Re:So...google apps folks? by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 2

      That's because Profiles are no longer available to Apps accounts. Convert and voila - profile goes poof. G+ is dependent on Profiles. Google says they're doing something special with Profiles for Apps users and will be available Soon. Suspect it might be related to G+ Organizational / Business accounts.

    9. Re:So...google apps folks? by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      Seems somewhat wrong that paying customers get left in the lurch as often as we do.

      Complain when the product is released to the general public and Apps users are still unable to use it. I'll bet that doesn't happen.

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  8. Bah... use a more readable Google+ Profile link! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I wish Google made these links more obvious, everyone on G+ so it's just security-through-obscurity to try to hide them, and they're oodles more readable than the 'huge pseudorandom number string' links most folks are using.

    Rob Malda's: https://profiles.google.com/rmalda
    Mine: https://profiles.google.com/wolfwings

    Yes, I'm too lazy to log in, cope. :)

  9. The Nice Thing About Social Networks... by Wook+Man · · Score: 0

    The network wouldn't be social if there was just one. It has to have someone to talk to so it doesn't get lonely.

    1. Re:The Nice Thing About Social Networks... by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      They're not very social networks though - none of them talk to each other. Google Talk and GMail are pretty social - they talk to loads of other networks - but Google+ and Facebook only talk to themselves.

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    2. Re:The Nice Thing About Social Networks... by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 1

      G+ also shows your Buzz feed. And Buzz lets you reshare any item from any RSS feed via Google Reader (with content appearing inline in Buzz feed, and hence also G+). I've seen people reshare LJ, BlogSpot and MSDN blogs that way, for example.

  10. Visitors != users by VGPowerlord · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This article seems to be confusing the number visitors with the number of registered users.

    The source they're citing says visitors.

    It's not much of a surprise that a new site by a popular brand would have a lot of people visiting their site in the first month.

    If they boasted that many registered accounts in that time, it'd be even more impressive but, guess what, they didn't.

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    1. Re:Visitors != users by Baloroth · · Score: 1

      The source actually says both users and visitors. I remember G+ had 10 million registered users a few weeks ago, so it could be 25 million users, but its much more likely visitors. Yeah, the article writer is sloppy. Probably no idea what he is talking about.

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    2. Re:Visitors != users by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Chill out. The only people that know the number of registered accounts is Google. You claiming otherwise makes you look daft for regurgitating a blog site.

    3. Re:Visitors != users by smellsofbikes · · Score: 1

      Nope, it's 25 million registered users not just visitors. The visitor count sounds like it's quite significantly higher but I haven't seen any specific numbers.

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    4. Re:Visitors != users by Rockstar+Rich+G · · Score: 2

      Absolutely correct, visitors != users. TFA jumps back and forth between the two terms, but the visitors # has to be incorrect - if they have 25M visitors and 20M+ accounts, that means less than 5M other people in the whole world have visited G+ this month without an account. Clearly wrong. Hell I count for 5 visitors myself and 1 account, having accessed G+ from 5 different IP's. Ironic though - without FB, Twitter, and the like, G+ wouldn't have the medium to spread as fast as it is spreading.

    5. Re:Visitors != users by VGPowerlord · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Nope, it's 25 million registered users not just visitors. The visitor count sounds like it's quite significantly higher but I haven't seen any specific numbers.

      ...and the source you linked to cites Reuters, and Reuters says users in the title and visitors in the body.

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    6. Re:Visitors != users by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Try to guess why those people were visiting the site? My guess is they were trying to register but didnt have an invite.

    7. Re:Visitors != users by VGPowerlord · · Score: 2

      Absolutely correct, visitors != users. TFA jumps back and forth between the two terms, but the visitors # has to be incorrect - if they have 25M visitors and 20M+ accounts, that means less than 5M other people in the whole world have visited G+ this month without an account. Clearly wrong. Hell I count for 5 visitors myself and 1 account, having accessed G+ from 5 different IP's. Ironic though - without FB, Twitter, and the like, G+ wouldn't have the medium to spread as fast as it is spreading.

      Except that comScore Media Matrix, the ultimate source for all this, measures the number of visitors to a site.

      So no, visitors is right, users is wrong.

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    8. Re:Visitors != users by nEoN+nOoDlE · · Score: 1

      seems like you want to diminish Google's achievement, for no real reason. Yeah, it's not registered users, but even if it was 25 million registered users, you'd still be able to claim "it's not much of a surprise that a new site by a popular brand would have a lot of [registered users] in the first month." Google can still claim to be the fastest growing social network that ever was, so it's still impressive.

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  11. take a picture by kawazuu · · Score: 1

    still waiting for 'take a picture'.

  12. Google+ and Twitter by Demoknight · · Score: 1

    Google+ seems to me to be more likely to compete with or duplicate posts from Twitter than Facebook. Facebook just has so much garbage on it I don't understand why anyone would be encouraged to use that site. Either way, I like the competition - it has the potential to cull advertisement whoring.

    My 2c.

    1. Re:Google+ and Twitter by alen · · Score: 0

      because normal non geek people like talking about BS like kids and sending stupid quizzes to each other

      and the privacy controls are much better on facebook than G+

    2. Re:Google+ and Twitter by geekoid · · Score: 1

      "and the privacy controls are much better on facebook than G+"

      No they aren't. Why do you even think that?

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    3. Re:Google+ and Twitter by alen · · Score: 1

      because on facebook i can exclude groups of users from viewing things i post or my profile. that means people i don't really know can be put into a sandbox group that gets minimal access.

      on G+ with no one on there and being able to "follow" the social media stars it becomes a pain in the a$$ to make a lot of circles and customize every part of your profile to be viewed by 20 circles for one another 30 circles for another. Google needs to let you have a circle of circles for this. so that i can say follow scoble but he won't see anything but my phone number which should only be view able to some circles

      FB has solved this problem with pages

    4. Re:Google+ and Twitter by iamhassi · · Score: 1

      Google+ seems to me to be more likely to compete with or duplicate posts from Twitter than Facebook. Facebook just has so much garbage on it I don't understand why anyone would be encouraged to use that site. Either way, I like the competition - it has the potential to cull advertisement whoring.

      My 2c.

      You want google to cull advertisement whoring? Think you're barking up the wrong tree, google lives off advertisements.

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    5. Re:Google+ and Twitter by bigstrat2003 · · Score: 1

      Everything you said (except meta-circles) is quite possible in G+. I don't see your point.

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  13. op woefully pines by nimbius · · Score: 1

    for the days when there was one unified "system." perish the thought of a competitive marketing plow to which one must yoke themselves in order to appear tech savvy and interactive.

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    1. Re:op woefully pines by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      Depends on what they mean by 'system'. The best way to encourage competing implementations is to have a standard protocol. Gmail is very popular, but would have been completely impossible in a world where AOL or Compuserve Mail was the standard. The existence of SMTP made it possible for hotmail and gmail to exist, and for people who don't want to opt into either to run their own servers. Similarly, lots of my friends like Google Talk. I run my own XMPP server. But because they're both using the same protocol, we can chat. We're on the same system - meaning the same IM network - just not on the same server. Facebook and Google+ are both proprietary systems, so there's no interoperability between them.

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  14. Mod Parent Up! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    +1 Fiendishly Evil

    1. Re:Mod Parent Up! by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      Shouldn't the subject line have read "Mod Grandparent Up!"?

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  15. OT: Google: Android's Archiles heal? by denis-The-menace · · Score: 1

    Don't get me wrong, I want an Android (Samsung G2 to be exact)
    but with Google killing accounts if you are "Bad"(tm), can you work an Android Phone without being logged into google?

    IOW: If I post something "Bad"(tm) on Google+ I don't want my phone to become less useful or useless. Can this be done?

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    1. Re:OT: Google: Android's Archiles heal? by Flyerman · · Score: 2

      Achilles heel.

    2. Re:OT: Google: Android's Archiles heal? by Pi1grim · · Score: 2

      Google only blocks you Plus account. Mail and whatnot is still intact, unless you were spamming. Google has already commented on that. So how about reading up on the issue before panicking?

    3. Re:OT: Google: Android's Archiles heal? by phoenixwade · · Score: 1

      Google only blocks you Plus account. Mail and whatnot is still intact, unless you were spamming. Google has already commented on that. So how about reading up on the issue before panicking?

      And reading slash dot is not a way to "read up on the issue?" what is the point then?

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    4. Re:OT: Google: Android's Archiles heal? by Toonol · · Score: 1

      Google only blocks you Plus account. Mail and whatnot is still intact, unless you were spamming.

      That is what they say, and multiple users have said that is not true. At this point, I'm not going to unquestioningly believe either side.

    5. Re:OT: Google: Android's Archiles heal? by Nirvelli · · Score: 1

      There are two common ways around this:

      One is two create a "dummy" Google Account that you use only to access things like the Android Market and Contact Sync.

      Alternatively you can skip using a Google Account altogether, and get your apps from something like the Amazon Appstore. You won't have an automatic backup of your app and contact data at that point, but from there you can always root the phone and then install something like Titanium Backup.

  16. Re:I signed up right away.... by modmans2ndcoming · · Score: 1

    Nice astroturf, FB Shill.

  17. Re:I signed up right away.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That you, Mark?

  18. comparable? by xiao_haozi · · Score: 1

    Really digging it so far... Just now sure how you can compare membership rates. College kid starting a site and letting it grow through exclusivity vs the internet's biggest presence sliding over users from their other services. Don't get me wrong, they are interesting metrics... just not that comparable in my mind.

    1. Re:comparable? by xiao_haozi · · Score: 1

      EDIT: I guess I should say, "the google vs facebook rate" comparisons.

  19. Re:I signed up right away.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    nah, google wave actually looked like a great thing.

    ok, if facebook had things like circles like google+ has, maybe i would have continued using that. but it doesn't and i am not missing facebook, not even a little.

  20. More networks = Fewer users by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 2

    Probably not in the short-term, the more (quantity) of popular competative networks there are the fewer TOTAL users to go between them- there may be. Part of facebook's draw was it's near-monopoly on "that type" of social network. Right now, "everyone" is on facebook- so the "pressure" to join facebook and be like the rest of the unwashed masses for some may be higher. The more people migrate and move to Google- the less pressure for those same people to join facebook. Since not "everyone" is on google- even if a lot of people are- the non uniformity of it means less pressure to join there. If half the people I know are on G and the other half are on FB- I'd be less inclined to join either- too much hassle for an anti-social nitwit with too little time to post on both- and the reward to post to just half my friends is... well half? The more major networking sites- the fewer the people they have which means the lesser the drive for non-inducted members to join. It may seem counter-intuitive but the best model Google and Facebook could have is to make their platforms open to each other- so posting in one posts to the other (if you have an account)- otherwise the total pool of available users will be less because there would be less incentive to join either one. As long as they block each other they are will be limiting their client base. If another major player enters the market it would fragment social networking completely. (and I'm not counting Twitter because it is a different niche). Full disclosure: I am not on any social network - I'm waiting for the invent of the anti-social network.

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    1. Re:More networks = Fewer users by lpaul55 · · Score: 1
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  21. Re:I signed up right away.... by xiao_haozi · · Score: 1

    Could be, but I don't believe even Wave ever had this much hype/excitement in the community or even membership.

  22. Re:I signed up right away.... by bberens · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Google+ (at least for the meantime) does not have "apps" posting to everyone's wall/stream, so I consider that a big benefit. Also the "circles" concept was simple enough for my 60 year old mother to understand, but facebook groups was not. Google+ is not totally inundated with spam (yet). Aside from things like sunk cost and the network affect (everyone you know is already on fb) there's not much good reason to use FB in my opinion. The ability to download all the data you'll post to G+ is an additional big plus for me, even though it doesn't necessarily mean anything to average joe.

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  23. Facebook could easily trip up Google+ by Bloodwine77 · · Score: 1

    I have both a Facebook account and G+ account, and more often than not I still use Facebook for the majority of my online interactions with friends and family. Most of my G+ circles are technical people (no family members, old school friends, or tech-illiterate friends yet).

    Facebook has Friends Lists, which are pretty much the same as Google Circles. All Facebook has to do is make it more streamlined and easy to share posts only with certain Lists. The functionality is already there, but you have to click a few menus deep and then type in the names of the Lists (yes, you actually have to type out the List names ... heh). If they made a dropdown box off of the share post control that allows you to click on which Lists to share a post with then bam ... G+ loses one of its biggest advantages).

    1. Re:Facebook could easily trip up Google+ by vlm · · Score: 1

      Most of my G+ circles are technical people (no family members, old school friends, or tech-illiterate friends yet).

      Same here... G+ circles would be a killer feature if there were any meatspace friends, family members, or coworkers on G+. Seems entirely populated by two groups:
      1) Techies
      2) Tech journalists

      That's about the only two circles you actually can use on G+.

      Also, you want a weird stat? I have observed G+ is about 50% atheist / agnostic / unaligned / lawful neutral or whatever you want to call it, and I only know of one evangelical christian on G+ out of about a hundred in my circles..

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    2. Re:Facebook could easily trip up Google+ by geekoid · · Score: 1

      Anecdote:
      I have people all over the spectrum in my circles. housewives, techies, geeks, executives, baseball team, pretty much every area of life.

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    3. Re:Facebook could easily trip up Google+ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're not a statistician...are you? What you're observation are that the majority of people you associate with are of like mind. Welcome to reality, dumb-ass.

    4. Re:Facebook could easily trip up Google+ by Crayon+Kid · · Score: 1

      All Facebook has to do is make it more streamlined[...]

      The question is, will they? And by that I mean, will they even care? Will the users?

      I'm skeptical. If Google+ were to prevail it would have by now. We would see reports counting tens of millions of registered users, not "visitors". If it hasn't so far, it probably won't gather enough momentum.

      And I'm not exactly sorry. Call it Facebook, Google, whatever, they're all the same. Their bread and butter is our private information and they are slowly throwing away all pretense they even try to protect it. Their latest statements re. eliminating anonymity are proof. If Google thinks that paying lip service to privacy and a different interface will make a difference, they might as well not even bother -- still Facebook in sheep's clothing.

      What we need is a FOSS engine, something cheap and flexible that any geek can deploy on their own website (or on public services a la GitHub), and his/her non-geek friends can start using very easily and hook up into a larger, grassroots, distributed social network. Something that no corporation will be able to mine or control.

      Frankly, I'm surprised no such solution has appeared so far. Oh, I don't doubt there may be plenty "social network" FOSS projects out there, but the only one that made any waves so far was Diaspora, and that was shortly before it died. ('Cause it did, right? A viable software project of any kind should put out a beta in 6 months from inception and have a working version in a year tops, and they're long overdue.)

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    5. Re:Facebook could easily trip up Google+ by lecoupdejarnac · · Score: 1

      For me a big disadvantage that facebook is unlikely to change is in its nomenclature. I like that G+ avoids the use of the word "Friends", and was never quite comfortable with facebook friend requests - always having to mull whether or not I knew someone well enough to accept their request.

      For G+ it is explicit that not everyone is your "friend". It is a much better design for people who think twice instead of blindly sending and accepting friend requests.

  24. Help me here - by M0j0_j0j0 · · Score: 1

    How many ladies you got on your G+ social network? I'll get you an analogy, social networks are like discos , they get famous for the dirty ladies. They are the most important dynamo in social eco systems.

    1. Re:Help me here - by rubycodez · · Score: 1

      who'd want one of those whore-bags for girlfriend or wife?, not the majority of men I know. That's a niche market, those who want the "public rag" type of woman

    2. Re:Help me here - by tooyoung · · Score: 1

      who'd want one of those whore-bags for girlfriend or wife?, not the majority of men I know. That's a niche market, those who want the "public rag" type of woman

      Good point - people only add wives/girlfriends to their friend lists.

    3. Re:Help me here - by rubycodez · · Score: 2

      haha, "friends" are another matter, but I'm specifically talking about the type of woman who so desires to be popular, she goes down on everything but the Titanic.

      Also, you remind me of 19th century toast, "to our wives and sweethearts.......may they never meet!"

  25. it's just a better twitter by alen · · Score: 1

    so far it's a friendfeed/twitter clone

    privacy controls are still better on facebook. a lot easier to control access to my profile info on facebook. G+ needs to have a way to exclude circles from viewing some profile info

    facebook is meant for friends. G+ seems to be the TV/celebrity model where you "follow" the internet oprah's and comment about everything they post.

    1. Re:it's just a better twitter by geekoid · · Score: 1

      Why do you think that? It makes no senses at all. Have you even used it?

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    2. Re:it's just a better twitter by Emetophobe · · Score: 3, Informative

      G+ needs to have a way to exclude circles from viewing some profile info

      You can already do that.

      1. Edit your profile.
      2. Click on the item that you want to edit, Occupation for example.
      3. Click custom
      4. Add circles or individuals to the list

      Now only people/circles that you added can see that specific profile data.

    3. Re:it's just a better twitter by Zappy · · Score: 1

      Hmm, almost I would like to show a different occupation, to follow your example, to different circles.

    4. Re:it's just a better twitter by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 4, Funny

      The killer feature would be differentiating relationship status ("married" / "single") depending on the circle ~

    5. Re:it's just a better twitter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He is an apple fanboi. So if he gets to put down google any way, he will, he does not need facts to do that. Check out his posting history.

      Alen - so do you fap on steve jobs' picture of apple logo?

  26. Integration / Banning by SydShamino · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Has Google fixed the policy to ban an account Google-wide if the G+ account is closed? I've had an invite but haven't joined as I don't want my other Google products (blog, photo depot) to be at risk if some jerk(s) or computer bug decides my real name isn't real enough.

    This seemed to make a big buzz a week or so back, then just die off, so I'm not sure if they fixed it or if, like most other social networking stuff, everyone just decided to live with the nasty policies.

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    1. Re:Integration / Banning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      They've responded multiple times that none of your other products would be effected. They're also working on resolving the nickname issue as well.

    2. Re:Integration / Banning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It was all FUD and ended up being a storm in a teacup. The suspension of google+ accounts over naming policies is still a bit of a PR disaster, but it only ever amounted to google+ accounts being suspended. All others services continued.

    3. Re:Integration / Banning by Mofassa · · Score: 2

      I believe Google responded stating that the Google+ violations were not banning site wide, this is outlined in their ToS as well.

    4. Re:Integration / Banning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It's not the policy. Period. This was covered even here on ./

    5. Re:Integration / Banning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      That is not the policy; G+ suspensions for common name only suspend from G+. This has always been the case.

      Telling G+ you're under 13 would suspend your entire account until a parent/guardian confirmed consent and verified their age. Additionally, there was a high-profile case of a site-wide suspension, but that was because the account was flagged for child porn.

    6. Re:Integration / Banning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would assume so as they have two options to close your account. You can close your social account, or your entire google account.

    7. Re:Integration / Banning by De+Lemming · · Score: 1

      Here is a post by a Google VP about these issues. The Google-wide account ban was a myth.

    8. Re:Integration / Banning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've already lost faith in Google after seeing all my linked accounts (including many paid android market purchases) get disabled a few weeks ago. Just 24 hours after signing up for Google+ and posting a few test posts under my usual nickname. Several requests later, no response and no official explaination.

    9. Re:Integration / Banning by NoSig · · Score: 1

      Your G+ account can be banned without your entire Google account (e.g. GMail) being closed. This would happen e.g. if you register with a name that isn't actually your name - your GMail account will still be available after that. Your G+ account will still be available too as soon as you put in your actual name. However, if they ban you for something more sinister like mass spamming, phishing or fraud, then they may ban your whole Google account because they want nothing more to do with you. They have the power to yank your whole account if you misbehave badly enough, and it is entirely up to them how to define "badly enough". That does seem reasonable for a free service.

    10. Re:Integration / Banning by iinlane · · Score: 1

      Now, when fear of losing my gmail data is out of the way, they have 25 million and one subscribers.

    11. Re:Integration / Banning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not true. I didn't have a problem with the nickname issue, but all your Google accounts are linked. If you are blocked on one they ALL are blocked. I've personally observed this.

      And I think you mean 'affected'.

    12. Re:Integration / Banning by SydShamino · · Score: 1

      Thanks to everyone who replied!

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  27. Mod Parent Up by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 1

    Google+ is and will be useless to Google Apps users like me until Google gets its stuff together.

    Please quit with the Google+ hype and get back to the labs!!!

    1. Re:Mod Parent Up by iamhassi · · Score: 1

      Thank you. /. is a bit bipolar on the google+ issue. One story it's "google+ sucks, they're _____" and the next story is "google+ rocks, they're ______". So which is it /., is google+ our new savior or not? I'm leaning towards not, lumping everything I do online into one company is a bit much, I sort of like my search engine not knowing who my real world friends are, etc. I can see it now: "you're talking to Tiffany on Google+. She is not listed as your wife. Would you like us to find you hotel deals using Google Search? For an extra $2 we can send a message as your wife's boss through Google+ asking her to come in on Saturday. If she calls to confirm we will reroute calls from her Android phone thru Google Voice and a computerized voice sounding exactly like your wife's boss will confirm."

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  28. Only to take my prefered IDs by cain · · Score: 1

    I don't plan on using it, but I registered a few accounts preemptively. I've got a few people in the world with the same name and when other search for it, I don't want them confusing the other person with me. I can use the Google+ accounts to link to my preferred on-line presence.

    1. Re:Only to take my prefered IDs by geekoid · · Score: 2

      You're an ass.

      I don't use it, but I'll be damn if someone else with the same name can use it.

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    2. Re:Only to take my prefered IDs by cain · · Score: 1

      I'm going to get sucked in eventually anyway (other people posting photos of me, etc). Might as well stake my claim so I can better control it once it happens. Best offense is a good defense, &c.

  29. Re:I signed up right away.... by HerculesMO · · Score: 1

    I don't have any apps on my FB either...

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  30. Changing view or merely the water ... by kgeiger · · Score: 2
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  31. "...the grandparents will never leave Facebook..." by John+Hasler · · Score: 5, Funny

    So much for Facebook. It's dead. It's for "old people".

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  32. -1 by Tei · · Score: 1

    Don't count me there, please. I deleted my profile as soon his policis about anonymity where public.

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  33. Off the Wall by psyclone241 · · Score: 1

    I signed up for + just because it wasn't FB! I wanted to be 'off the wall' so to speak. Google Apps, apps in general to be added to + would just turn it into FB. I hate most of the 'App Crap' on FB, though it is fun to tinker with development of little apps that many users will mindlessly download and use :-) I love almost everything Google related. I love my Android devices! I don't want another FB! That is where most of my friends and family are already. So far the only ones who have joined me on + are the Geeks, Super-Geeks, and otherwise Tech Savvy folks. So far, just about everything posted in +, has been related to either computers, programming, aquaponics, green technologies, sustainable tech, etc. Nerd stuff! I'm actually enjoying the separation. I still use FB, but I don't mind the separate worlds. Google+ is a refreshing change from FB.

  34. Re:Stuck on two systems? Try Start Google+ by Anonymous+Codger · · Score: 1

    Is anyone other than the anonymous coward familiar with this? Real or scam?

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  35. Re:I signed up right away.... by HerculesMO · · Score: 0

    Yea, I'm hawking Facebook even though my user number is lower than yours. Jeez, I should have just said "Microsoft sucks" and I'd get modded up like crazy.

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  36. I wonder. . . by shadowfaxcrx · · Score: 1

    Does this statistic count the signups of "fake" names that were banned?

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  37. Re:Stuck on two systems? Try Start Google+ by m.ducharme · · Score: 1

    Real. I'm using it right now. The guy who wrote it is pretty good at keeping on top of bug-fixes and whatnot. There are extensions for chrome, ff, and I think Safari, but the chrome one is naturally the most up-to-date.

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  38. Re:I signed up right away.... by grommit · · Score: 2

    The ease of circle management in G+ compared to facebook and not having to deal with the constantly moving target of facebook's UI is making me move away from facebook as quickly as my friends will join G+.

  39. Shows market for better Social Network by __aazsst3756 · · Score: 1

    This shows that there is a huge market for a better social network.

    The problem with Google building it is their sole interest lies in selling all the data. I really don't want my social network owned by the biggest marketing company in the world.

    Could someone here please build a new social network that respects privacy? I would move in a heartbeat.

    1. Re:Shows market for better Social Network by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 1

      This shows there was huge curiosity. I created a Google+ account to see what was there, but have no intention of moving from Facebook where everyone already is. Google+ has a slick interface, but no real deep improvement to where my entire circle of "normal" friends would ever go there. A social network is a natural monopoly. That's going to be a tough nut for Google to crack. (And Facebook's privacy features are fine, if people bother to use them).

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    2. Re:Shows market for better Social Network by GNious · · Score: 1
    3. Re:Shows market for better Social Network by Zebedeu · · Score: 1

      https://joindiaspora.com/

      They're taking their sweet time, though.

    4. Re:Shows market for better Social Network by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 1

      The problem with Google building it is their sole interest lies in selling all the data.

      Well, what do you think Facebook's interest is?

  40. I Google Minused by CheeseburgerBrown · · Score: 1

    I Google Minused because they said they were pretty sure my boss wasn't smart enough to elude circle security, so I should probably associate everything I post and say with my legal and professional name and after all what could go wrong why not?

    Also, because I was afeared that some of the stories about people outed for being nicknamed and ended up with lock-outs to their entire suite of Googlies were slightly true. If using my nick on Google+ meant jeopardising access to my control dealies for my Blog*spot public skirt-twisting or AdSense pimping, even temporarily while I argued with a Googlebot, I would be left helplessly rending my garments and shaking my fist at the cloud.

    So I took my toys and went home.

    1. Re:I Google Minused by iamhassi · · Score: 1

      Also, because I was afeared that some of the stories about people outed for being nicknamed and ended up with lock-outs to their entire suite of Googlies were slightly true. If using my nick on Google+ meant jeopardising access to my control dealies for my Blog*spot public skirt-twisting or AdSense pimping, even temporarily while I argued with a Googlebot, I would be left helplessly rending my garments and shaking my fist at the cloud.

      So I took my toys and went home.

      this. The cons outweigh the pros. Until I get some kind of guarantee that nothing I ever do on google+ hurts my other google services (blog, email, YouTube ad revenue, adsense, google voice, etc) I will not join google+. If Facebook bans me oh well, I don't lose half the Internet along with it. Google+ is just too big of a risk.

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    2. Re:I Google Minused by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      this. The cons outweigh the pros. Until I get some kind of guarantee that nothing I ever do on google+ hurts my other google services (blog, email, YouTube ad revenue, adsense, google voice, etc) I will not join google+. If Facebook bans me oh well, I don't lose half the Internet along with it. Google+ is just too big of a risk.

      Listen to Hassi, Google - the self-inflicted hole shot in the foot is turning gangrenous.

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    3. Re:I Google Minused by Pulzar · · Score: 1

      The cons outweigh the pros. Until I get some kind of guarantee that nothing I ever do on google+ hurts my other google services (blog, email, YouTube ad revenue, adsense, google voice, etc) I will not join google+.

      I don't know what kind of a guarantee are you looking for. The Google VP explicitly said that that can't happen, and their Terms of Service say it, too. It doesn't get much better than that -- you don't expect a personalized contract signed by Larry and Sergey, do you?

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  41. Re:I signed up right away.... by geekoid · · Score: 1

    What the hell does user number have to do with it?

    And it's extremely well thought out service.
    Clue: Just because you don't like it, and don't wish to use it doesn't mean it's poorly thought out. get over yourself.

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  42. No, you're not stuck by JockTroll · · Score: 1

    Your grandparents won't live forever. You'll be able to switch to 1 system only.

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  43. I'd love to try Google+: where's my invite? by Mr+Foobar · · Score: 1

    I've been using Google a long time, back even when it was nothing but a web search engine. When Google Mail first came out in its not so public form years ago, I managed to wrangle an invite from a friend of a friend, and I have happily used and enjoyed almost all the Google apps that have come out since. I log in to Google several times a day, constantly use Books, Earth, Maps, Docs, Blogger, and will miss Health big time. Chrome is my default browser. Google knows, or must know, how much I love their apps, I use them every day.

    So,.... where's my Google+ invite? Five, 10, 20 million people have already been invited and joined up, even a bunch of them now banned. Seems like a lot of celebs were given one. Even invites given to their competitors. A lot of you have been given invites, and many of you don't even use or like Google. Hate them, even. But you got one. I don't want one of yours, I want an invite from Google, where I should be getting one from. But what am I offered? This https://services.google.com/fb/forms/googleplus site for to sign up for only news about when Google+ may soon be ready, and maybe some day, just maybe someone within Google will condescend to pass along an invite to a poor unknown long time Google user, maybe after about half the fricking world have already been given an invite. No one I know has an invite, no one they know has an invite, either. Just where are all these invites coming from?

    Thanks, Google, for the consideration after all the love and support I've given you all these years. >:-(

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    1. Re:I'd love to try Google+: where's my invite? by j-beda · · Score: 1

      If you want an invite, I'll gladly send you one - what's your email address?

  44. New account creation denied... by unrtst · · Score: 1

    How are they reaching these numbers? Every time I got to http://plus.google.com/ it says:
    "Already invited? We've temporarily exceeded our capacity. Please try again soon."

    Lot's of early adopters - sure... but where are any new numbers coming from!?!? seriously, cause I'd like to check it out. Is there a backdoor?

    1. Re:New account creation denied... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, I saw that message for weeks and thus never bothered trying to get an invite. Then on the last slashdot article about it, I asked the same question as you. Someone sent me an invite and it actually let me in, despite what the website says if you go to it directly. You have to use the link in the invite.

      Post your info and someone here will surely send you an invite.

    2. Re:New account creation denied... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You just need an invite. Post an email address (a throwaway account is fine) and I'll send you an invite.

    3. Re:New account creation denied... by unrtst · · Score: 1

      Thank you for that! Silly me, I've been sitting on an invite, but every time I checked their site I saw that message, so I didn't bother with it.

  45. Google Authenticator... by Cutting_Crew · · Score: 1

    If you haven't done so already I would recommend the google 2 step authenticator. its the same mechanism as the blizzard authenticator. the problem is, just like with the browser issue(using the same machine trying to manage multiple gmail accounts), I cannot find a way to link up my google authenticator app(you download this as part of the 2-step process) for multiple gmail accounts. the google authenticator app needs a way to go back and forth between gmail accounts or somehow link up your various gmail accounts with the app so the 6 digit key is available no matter which gmail you are currently trying to log in to.

  46. Re:"...the grandparents will never leave Facebook. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    lol

  47. This just in: AptiQuant reports that... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Google+ users have higher IQs than Facebook users.

  48. Re:"...the grandparents will never leave Facebook. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But the elderly aren't real people.

  49. Re:I signed up right away.... by bberens · · Score: 1

    [somefamilymember] has sent you a bushel of hay on farmville!

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  50. Re:"...the grandparents will never leave Facebook. by dn15 · · Score: 2

    So much for Facebook. It's dead. It's for "old people".

    Just like email...

  51. Doesn't look launched to me by mysidia · · Score: 1

    A field trial is not a launch.

    I try to sign up and I get a page that says:

    Google+ is in limited Field Trial Right now, we're testing with a small number of people, but it won't be long before the Google+ project is ready for everyone. Leave us your email address and we'll make sure you're the first to know when we're ready to invite more people.

    So unless that's just Google's way of trying to tell me, "We here at Google don't really like you" etc....

    They haven't actually launched yet, and when they do, they could have many more signups. It kind of screws up the "25 million users in one month of launch" concept though.

    1. Re:Doesn't look launched to me by j-beda · · Score: 1

      I eventually got an invite that worked. I could try sending you one if you gave me your email address.

  52. Lemmings! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Which cliff will you and your privacy next be enticed to take a running jump of off?

  53. Re:"...the grandparents will never leave Facebook. by shreak · · Score: 1

    Facebook is for "Old" and "Young". Google+ won't allow you to sign up if you're under 18.

    That might be an artifact of "beta".

  54. Re:"...the grandparents will never leave Facebook. by blair1q · · Score: 1

    It always was.

    For several years, everyone q00l was on MySpace.

    Then Rupert bought it, and, well, there's less evil over on FB. At least, there was. Then the shift from MySpace gave it The Power, and with that came The Corruption.

    Google+ will be next. How it turns out depends on when Larry and Sergey stop don't-be-eviling.

    But, there are those who say that's already happened.

  55. Re:I signed up right away.... by iamhassi · · Score: 1

    What the hell does user number have to do with it?

    And it's extremely well thought out service. Clue: Just because you don't like it, and don't wish to use it doesn't mean it's poorly thought out. get over yourself.

    So if someone doesn't like Google+ they're flamebait and a FB shill?

    Microsoft sucks. Facebook sucks. Google+ has yet to prove itself

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  56. Re:"...the grandparents will never leave Facebook. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In Korea, only old people use Facebook.

    There, fixed it for ya.

  57. Re:"...the grandparents will never leave Facebook. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Facebook is now for grandparents who rarely say anything and (especially) for obnoxious teenagers who rarely have anything intelligent to say. Already the quality of conversation on G+ is better.

    More importantly Twitter will become a venue for self-absorbed advertisers who will soon lack an audience.

  58. Re:private mode by Zinho · · Score: 1

    I'm running FF5 and that doesn't work for me. If I launch private browsing mode it appears to close all current windows and opens a new one in private mode. The state of the other windows is still retained somewhat; switching back brings me back to the same pages I was on, but dynamic content like flash or embedded video gets reloaded to its default state. The private browsing window is completely destroyed in the process of switching back; the two modes, private and standard, don't display together. A quick search of the firefox online manual suggests that this behavior is by design.

    That's actually a solid win for Chrome in my book; I may have to finally try it out.

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  59. 25 mil subs by PPNSteve · · Score: 1

    but has 20 mil with suspended profiles net total: 5 million.

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  60. How? by cskrat · · Score: 1

    I've yet to visit plus.google.com and see anything other than the Keep Me Posted button. Am I visiting the wrong address? Is searching for Google+ in Google the wrong way to go about it?

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    1. Re:How? by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 1

      It is invite-only. Post your email (mangled as necessary, though I probably shouldn't be telling this on /.) and you'll get invited shortly.

    2. Re:How? by cskrat · · Score: 1

      I actually have my slashdot mangled address next to my uid. I'd welcome an invite if anyone has one to spare.

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    3. Re:How? by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 1

      You should have it now.

    4. Re:How? by cskrat · · Score: 1

      Thanks man, got it.

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  61. Google+ and #noemail by Paul+Fernhout · · Score: 1

    By me, about Paul Jones' interesting #noemail experiment, in the context of a 2008 IBM report on unified communications: http://ibiblio.org/pjones/blog/2008-ibm-predicts-five-future-trends-that-will-drive-unified-communications-read-more-ibm-predicts-5-future-trends-that-will-drive-unified-communications/comment-page-1/#comment-441613

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    That IBM report leaves out the idea that a "Social Semantic Desktop" will integrate all our communications (including email-like messages). It kind of fits under "interoperability" but is something beyond that. Ideally, something like my (essentially) peer-to-peer Thunderbird email client (but much better, as a social semantic desktop application) would be able to track all the content on all those systems for me.

    I accepted an invitation to Google+ to be in a web conference on "Discussions on the Future of the Economy", to talk about the effect technology is having on economics.

    So, am I any happier with a Google+ account? Not so far.

    It was fun to play around with the video chat for a few minutes with my wife and kid on another computer. Although now I see that event shows up in my "stream" but it is not clear who can see that; It just happened automatically. I don't think that is shared, but it just is not easily clear who can see it.

    Google+ is now just another stream of stuff that I have no local copy of. Anything I put on those servers is lost to me if they go down or I leave the service (unless I go to extra trouble to make a copy). I can't integrate it in with my existing email archive. There is already a lot of stuff in the stream from the people I've added to circles, but I have no easy way to navigate it other that a rather cumbersome and relatively slow web interface. Google now knows anything I search for in that stream.

    Google+ is now one more stream of pressure on me. It joins twitter, which I use mostly for microblogging (like links to slashdot posts). But for twitter, I can ignore it mostly as a site and let Thunderbird just keep up with for me using its RSS feed reader functionality for people I follow and I also get email from it otherwise I would never see what people sent me. I don't see how to get an RSS feed of Google+ stuff? Maybe it is there, but it is just one more adhoc learning curve. It looks like you can't do it, except with some third party application like "plusfeed" on appspot. Even with that, which I'm not going to bother to wrestle with right now, I am hostage to Google's good graces for access to the information others want to send me (reminds me of the current problem with high-priced science journals controlling the copyrights on tax-funded research):.

    Now Google knows part of my social network. I felt socially pressured to put a current picture of me up on the web, invading my privacy in a way email does not pressure me.

    Do I even know when the Logitech camera and microphone are working? Yes, they are supposed to have a red light go on, but to use Google+ chat I had to install opaque proprietary software that I have no idea what it did to my computer. Who audits that kind of stuff? Where do the streams even go when I know they are recording? When I was at IBM Research a decade ago, people were working on indexing video. Yesterday there was a Slashdot article about a DOD project to index videos looking for terrorists, how long is it before all that stuff is routinely screened if it is not already? Is Google going to tell us if it is?

    On the plus side, I added you to a circle and you reciprocated. Although I might have felt that had we sent an email back and forth. Why should you have been essentially pressured to make a public social decision about that? Did Google track everything you did to make that decision?

    Am I better off with Google+ over everyone usin

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    1. Re:Google+ and #noemail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly.

      This is the reason I didn't scramble with the other sheep to be part of their by-invite-only 'experiment', (or should we say, their incredibly effective market take-over strategy?).

      I dislike the feeling of being taken advantage of, manipulated, bought, sold and generally given an ear-tag with a number on it.

      Anybody who fell for this campaign is a giant sucker who deserves to be treated like cattle.

    2. Re:Google+ and #noemail by Paul+Fernhout · · Score: 1

      "I dislike the feeling of being taken advantage of, manipulated, bought, sold and generally given an ear-tag with a number on it. Anybody who fell for this campaign is a giant sucker who deserves to be treated like cattle."

      Thanks, AC. Although I guess that is the nature of social pressure as herd movements. Does anyone really want to get left totally alone or, alternatively, trampled?

      Your comment reminds me about the original "Prisoner" series, which used to be online over at AMC, but they seem to have taken it down? I only see stuff about the remake here now:
          http://www.amctv.com/shows/the-prisoner

      Also related (but spoilers as complete episode guides):
          http://www.theprisoneronline.com/

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  62. Tyre Kickers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There are lots of visitors. Lots of registered users. But most of them came in, played around, and didn't come back (or rarely log in).

  63. Re:"...the grandparents will never leave Facebook. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So much for Facebook. It's dead. It's for "old people".

    Just like email...

    Or Slashdot?

  64. Re:I signed up right away.... by modmans2ndcoming · · Score: 0

    sorry... apparently your just a dumb ass Luddite who was probably only happy when you had to type your BS into a terminal to boot up Linux.

  65. Re:Bah... use a more readable Google+ Profile link by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 1