pffft A central theme of Michael Moore's controversial documentary (if you can call it a documentary) "Fahrenheit 9/11" (and the connection you refer to.) is a bare allegation that Saudi Arabian interests provided $1.4 billion to firms connected to the family and friends of President George W. Bush.
However, as a special Newsweek investigative report notes, there is really less - not more - than meets the eye re the dramatic Moore claim: # Nearly 90 percent of that claimed amount, $1.18 billion, comes from contracts in the early to mid-1990's that the Saudi Arabian government awarded to a U.S. defense contractor, BDM, for training the country's military and National Guard. The "Bush" connection: The firm at the time was owned by the Carlyle Group, a private-equity firm whose Asian-affiliate advisory board once included the president's father, George H.W. Bush.
# But, points out Newsweek, former president Bush didn't join the Carlyle advisory board until April, 1998 -- five months after Carlyle had already sold BDM to another defense firm.
# As for the sitting president's own Carlyle link, his service on the board ended when he quit to run for Texas governor -- a few months before the first of the Saudi contracts to the unrelated BDM firm was awarded.
# The Carlyle Group is hardly a "Bush Inc," noted Newsweek - but rather features a roster of bipartisan Washington power figures. "Its founding and still managing partner is Howard Rubenstein, a former top domestic policy advisor to Jimmy Carter. Among the firm's senior advisors is Thomas "Mack" McLarty, Bill Clinton's former White House chief of staff, and Arthur Levitt, Clinton's former chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission. One of its other managing partners is William Cannard, Clinton's chairman of the Federal Communications Commission."
# According to the report, the movie neglects to offer any evidence that Bush White House intervened in any way to bolster the interests of the Carlyle Group. In fact, the one major Bush administration decision that most directly affected the company's interest was the cancellation of a $11 billion program for the Crusader rocket artillery system. The Crusader was manufactured by United Defense, which had been wholly owned by Carlyle until it spun the company off in a public offering in October, 2001. Carlyle still owned 47 percent of the shares in the defense company at the time that Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld canceled the Crusader program the following year.
# As to Moore's dealings with the matter of the departing Saudis flown out of the United States in the days after the September 11 terror attacks, the 9/11 commission found that the FBI screened the Saudi passengers, ran their names through federal databases, interviewed 30 of them and asked many of them "detailed questions." "Nobody of interest to the FBI with regard to the 9/11 investigation was allowed to leave the country," the commission stated.
# The entity in the White House that approved the flights wasn't the president, or the vice president -- it was Richard Clarke, the counter-terrorism czar who was a holdover from the Clinton administration. Clarke has testified that he gave the approval conditioned on FBI clearance.
your point #1 ya so???? The film shows CBS and CNN calling Florida for Al Gore. According to the narrator, "Then something called the Fox News Channel called the election in favor of the other guy....All of a sudden the other networks said, 'Hey, if Fox said it, it must be true.'"
We then see NBC anchor Tom Brokaw stating, "All of us networks made a mistake and projected Florida in the Al Gore column. It was our mistake."
Moore thus creates the false impression that the networks withdrew their claim about Gore winning Florida when they heard that Fox said that Bush won Florida.
To sum it up about the Film IMHO!!! it is amazing what one can do with a little editing.
#3 #4 #5 And I suppose you are now going to tell me that Bush pulled a
"Nobody has been able to shoot down a single fact in the movie." LOL ok here we go...
1. The Gore victory rally is not celebrating a Florida win. It was held before the polls had even opened.
2. Like all the other networks, Fox mistakenly said that Gore had won in Florida. The first network to retract the Florida mistake was CBS, not Fox.
3. A 6-month study by a consortium of major newspapers shows that Bush would have won the Florida recount under any of the terms which Gore sought in his lawsuits.
4. Investigation by the Palm Beach Post and others shows that race was not a reason why election officials mistakenly disqualified some voters because they were incorrectly thought to have felony convictions.
5. Bush's Presidency before 9/11 was not in serious trouble. No commentator said that he looked like a lame-duck president. Congress had passed his #1 bill (the tax cut) and was on the way to passing his #2 bill (the education bill). The scene at the end of the movie in which Bush tells a rich audience "I call you my base" was from an October 2000 charity fund-raiser. Both Gore and Bush spoke at the fund-raiser and, as is the custom at the fund-raiser, made fun of themselves.
I don't know if this was a pointed attack on me since it has nothing to do with this thread hence "off topic" MODERATORS Where Art Thou??
I don't usually play around with you fanatical, emotional, left wingers, but it is a slow day at work. Bellow is an article you should read my friend, Vote SMART not by EMOTION!!!
During the past several months in the American press, the Democrats have frequently denounced the Republicans as Nazis due to their attempts to control runaway federal spending. How very ironic. I remember the Nazis. Let me share a little about them and recall some of their exploits.
First of all, "Nazi" was gutter slang for the verb "to nationalize". The Bider-Mienhoff gang gave themselves this moniker during their early struggles. The official title of the Nazi Party was "The National Socialist Workers Party of Germany". Hitler and the Brownshirts advocated the nationalization of education, health care, transportation, national resources, manufacturing, distribution and law enforcement.
Hitler came to power by turning the working class, unemployed, and academic elite against the conservative republic. After Der Fuhrer's election ceased being a political conspiracy and was transformed into a fashionable social phenomenon, party membership was especially popular with educators, bureaucrats, and the press.
Being a Nazi was "politically correct". They called themselves "The Children of the New Age of World Order" and looked down their noses at everyone else. As Hitler acquired more power, he referred to his critics as "The Dark Forces of Anarchy and Hatred". Anyone who questioned Nazi high-handedness in the German press was branded a "Conservative Reactionary". Joseph Goebbels, minister of communications, proclaimed a "New World Order".
The Nazi reign of terror began with false news reports on the Jews, Bohemians and Gypses who were said to be arming themselves to overthrow the "New World Order" and Hitler demanded that all good people register their guns so that they wouldn't fall into the hands of "terrorists and madmen".Right-wing fanatics of the "Old Order" who protested firearms registration were arrested by the S.S. and put in jail for "fomenting hatred against the Government of the German people".
Then the Reichstag (government building) was blown up and Hitler ram-rodded an "Emergency Anti-Terrorist Act" through Parliament that gave the Gestapo extraordinary powers. The leader then declared that for the well-being of the German people, all private firearms were to be confiscated by the Gestapo and the Wermotten (federal law enforcement and military). German citizens who refused to surrender their guns when the "jack-boots" (Gestapo) came calling, were murdered in their homes. By the way, the Gestapo were the federal marshals' service of the Third Reich. The S.W.A.T. team was invented and perfected by the Gestapo to break into the homes of the enemies of the German people.
When the Policia Bewakken, or local police, refused to take away guns from townsfolk, they themselves were disarmed and dragged out into the street and shot to death by the S.A. and the S.S. Those were Nazi versions of the B.A.T.F. and the F.B.I. When several local ministers spoke out against these atrocities, they were imprisoned and never seen again.
The Gestapo began to confiscate and seize the homes, businesses, bank accounts, and personal belongings of wealthy conservative citizens who had prospered in the old Republic. Pamphleteers who urged revolt against the Nazis were shot on site by national law enforcement and the military. Gypsies and Jews were detained and sent to labor camps. Mountain roads throughout central Europe were closed to prevent the escape of fugitives into the wilderness, and to prevent the movement and concealment of partisan resistance fighters.
Public schools rewrote history and Hitler youth groups taught the children to report their parents to their teachers for anti-Nazi remarks. Such parents disappeared. Pagan animism became
My sales drones use salesforce as a major tool and now because it is being/.'ed I'm getting calls from them asking why MY network is slow!!! Geee thanx/.'ers
BS install linux then install winblows xp via vmware.. That way when you do install sp2 on the vmare xp virtual box and it blows up you still have an OS to get you by while you reinstall windowx xp on the vmware virtual box.
Well one thing about projectors is that my X1 will beat out many of the $5000 projectors. That new 3M for $4k is the latest. And that one beats many of the $10k ones. The speed in which technology in projectors is catching up to the same speed as CPU's.
Last year there were only 2 different types of projector technologies, this year there are 3 for instance.
But as always you should go down and view any TV or Projector before you buy.
I even got one for work too great little projectors.. Some pixelation if you stand about a foot away or put your nose on the screen. Sceen size 60"x80"
I have only one complaint it is a little dark in video mode. So you have to keep the room very dark. It has Great color, all in all for the $$$ it is worth it.
If you want to spend 4 times as much the new 3m projectetor here is 3500 lumens which is brighter than the $10K big boys;)
[ Thanks to Jeremy Allison - Samba Team for this release. ]
Over the past few months, the SCO (Santa Cruz Operation) Corporation (formerly Caldera International, Inc. a Linux distribution vendor) has been complaining about violations of its Copyright works by the Linux kernel code.
Recently, Darl McBride, the Chief Executive Officer of SCO has been making pejorative statements regarding the license used by the Linux kernel, the GNU GPL. In a keynote speech he recently said:
"At the end of the day, the GPL is not about making software free; it's about destroying value."
In light of this it is the depths of hypocrisy that at the same event SCO also announced the incorporation of the Samba3 release into their latest OpenServer product. Samba is an Open Source/Free Software project that allows Linux and UNIX servers to interoperate with Microsoft Windows clients. The reason for this is clear; Samba3 allows Linux and UNIX servers to replace Microsoft Windows NT Domain Controllers and will add great value to any Operating System which includes it. However, Samba is also developed and distributed under the GNU GPL license, in exactly the same manner as the Linux kernel code that SCO has been criticizing for its lack of care in ownership attribution.
We observe that SCO is both attacking the GPL on the one hand and benefiting from the GPL on the other hand. SCO can't have it both ways. SCO has a clear choice: either pledge not to use any Open Source/Free Software in any of their products, or actively participate in the Open Source/Free Software movement and reap the benefits. For SCO to continue to use Open Source/Free Software while attacking others for using it is the epitome of hypocrisy.
The strength of Open Source/Free Software is that it is available to all without restrictions on fields of endeavor, as the Samba Team believes the ability to freely use, modify and learn from software code is one of the grounding principles of computer science, and a basic freedom for all.
Because of this, we believe that the Samba must remain true to our principles and be freely available to use even in ways we personally disapprove of.
Even when used by rank hypocrites like SCO.
Jeremy Allison, Marc Kaplan, Andrew Bartlett, Christopher R. Hertel, Jerry Carter, Jean Francois Micouleau, Paul Green, Rafal Szczesniak.
Let me start first by saying THIS IS NOT LEGAL ADVICE:
How to bring $CO down to their knees (this is just theory I don't know much about our legal system), one person in every county in each of the fifty states file small claims (extortion) with that county's court near or on the same date. $CO would have to default most if not all those claims, and most likely would have to file bankruptcy on all those defaults. Now here is the kicker after they file bankruptcy everyone file one more small claim under a different argument, such as operating under a false pretenses. They would then not be able to claim bankruptcy on those defaults and would then have to come out of the companies operating cost.
Organizing a grass roots effort to under take such a task would be hard if not impossible, but my question for you lawyers and law students is, would this essentially work in theory? Lets face it; $CO has personally attacked every person of the Open Source Community, I think it is time for the community to do something about this attack and show the world that people make the difference in the US not corporations.
Other high school projects working with Linux. Such as the Linux Thin Client k12 project at Riverdale high school http://k12ltsp.org
The more diversity in computing we teach our kids now the more open minded and out of the box thinking from them will become more prevalent in the future.
Somewhat off topic, but what grabbed me from the article right off the bat is the classic cool kids picking on or bulling the geeks and the nerds. Which simply boils down to Americans and their understanding of technology and science and the kids not having a role model to look up to in this area?
The Gallup Organization conducted the first-ever public poll in the United States on technological literacy. The poll tested the conceptual and practical understanding of technology, as well as opinions about the importance of studying technology. The results show as a rough gauge of how-or whether-the level of technological literacy changes over time. The results of the poll revealed that most Americans have a very limited view of technology and science. The results emphasize my point that we as a society don't instill enough science and technology in the younger generation as we should. Which leads to again the classic cool kids bulling the geeks scenario.
What do you mean "Pentium-or-better machine (for the partially-built distro) and a bootable CD-ROM"
pffft I'm running a AMD duron 900 and no I did not have the bootable cd. I have installed gentoo many a time with out any problems all across a network.
It can be done, has been done. You just have to have a little common sense and a little linux knowledge.
My main computing platform right now is Gentoo and in no way is my KDE3, Gnome2, or GCC3 are broken. Sure some packages will not compile right on my box but thats because I'm using GCC3.
I'm not sure were you are pulling the "partially-built distro" comment from. But I'm going to assume that you know do not know what packages need to be installed or what a base linux install consists of. Here is an example on how to get a nice fully customized KDE3 desktop; Type "emerge kde" Portage (the package manager) will download and compile not only the latest KDE3 base but its dependices as well. You want office software??? Type "emerge openoffice" Ok maybe you want a web server instead? Type "emerge apache php mysql" Yes it is that easy. The only thing partially about Gentoo is a persons knowledge.
I also have 4 SUN IPX boxes w/ no cdroms all with Gentoo in a cluster. Guess I was lucky to get Gentoo on them according to you. Actually it was easy you just got to know what your doing.
Again this is not a newbie distro, and dose take some time to compile everything. The average user will be asking for help and questions in the Gentoo forums which all the answers are there and everybody is friendly. I have also seen people with no *nix experience what so ever install Gentoo. The advantages outweight the time it takes to bootstrap and compile a base linux install and have it fully customized to your cpu and chipset.
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The classic and my favorite has got to be..
"You killed Church you team killing fucktard!"
or
"It's not pink, it's lightish red"
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pffft A central theme of Michael Moore's controversial documentary (if you can call it a documentary) "Fahrenheit 9/11" (and the connection you refer to.) is a bare allegation that Saudi Arabian interests provided $1.4 billion to firms connected to the family and friends of President George W. Bush.
However, as a special Newsweek investigative report notes, there is really less - not more - than meets the eye re the dramatic Moore claim:
# Nearly 90 percent of that claimed amount, $1.18 billion, comes from contracts in the early to mid-1990's that the Saudi Arabian government awarded to a U.S. defense contractor, BDM, for training the country's military and National Guard. The "Bush" connection: The firm at the time was owned by the Carlyle Group, a private-equity firm whose Asian-affiliate advisory board once included the president's father, George H.W. Bush.
# But, points out Newsweek, former president Bush didn't join the Carlyle advisory board until April, 1998 -- five months after Carlyle had already sold BDM to another defense firm.
# As for the sitting president's own Carlyle link, his service on the board ended when he quit to run for Texas governor -- a few months before the first of the Saudi contracts to the unrelated BDM firm was awarded.
# The Carlyle Group is hardly a "Bush Inc," noted Newsweek - but rather features a roster of bipartisan Washington power figures. "Its founding and still managing partner is Howard Rubenstein, a former top domestic policy advisor to Jimmy Carter. Among the firm's senior advisors is Thomas "Mack" McLarty, Bill Clinton's former White House chief of staff, and Arthur Levitt, Clinton's former chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission. One of its other managing partners is William Cannard, Clinton's chairman of the Federal Communications Commission."
# According to the report, the movie neglects to offer any evidence that Bush White House intervened in any way to bolster the interests of the Carlyle Group. In fact, the one major Bush administration decision that most directly affected the company's interest was the cancellation of a $11 billion program for the Crusader rocket artillery system. The Crusader was manufactured by United Defense, which had been wholly owned by Carlyle until it spun the company off in a public offering in October, 2001. Carlyle still owned 47 percent of the shares in the defense company at the time that Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld canceled the Crusader program the following year.
# As to Moore's dealings with the matter of the departing Saudis flown out of the United States in the days after the September 11 terror attacks, the 9/11 commission found that the FBI screened the Saudi passengers, ran their names through federal databases, interviewed 30 of them and asked many of them "detailed questions." "Nobody of interest to the FBI with regard to the 9/11 investigation was allowed to leave the country," the commission stated.
# The entity in the White House that approved the flights wasn't the president, or the vice president -- it was Richard Clarke, the counter-terrorism czar who was a holdover from the Clinton administration. Clarke has testified that he gave the approval conditioned on FBI clearance.
your point #1 ya so????
The film shows CBS and CNN calling Florida for Al Gore. According to the narrator, "Then something called the Fox News Channel called the election in favor of the other guy....All of a sudden the other networks said, 'Hey, if Fox said it, it must be true.'"
We then see NBC anchor Tom Brokaw stating, "All of us networks made a mistake and projected Florida in the Al Gore column. It was our mistake."
Moore thus creates the false impression that the networks withdrew their claim about Gore winning Florida when they heard that Fox said that Bush won Florida.
To sum it up about the Film IMHO!!! it is amazing what one can do with a little editing.
#3 #4 #5 And I suppose you are now going to tell me that Bush pulled a
"Nobody has been able to shoot down a single fact in the movie." LOL ok here we go...
i n-Fahrenheit-911.htm
1. The Gore victory rally is not celebrating a Florida win. It was held before the polls had even opened.
2. Like all the other networks, Fox mistakenly said that Gore had won in Florida. The first network to retract the Florida mistake was CBS, not Fox.
3. A 6-month study by a consortium of major newspapers shows that Bush would have won the Florida recount under any of the terms which Gore sought in his lawsuits.
4. Investigation by the Palm Beach Post and others shows that race was not a reason why election officials mistakenly disqualified some voters because they were incorrectly thought to have felony convictions.
5. Bush's Presidency before 9/11 was not in serious trouble. No commentator said that he looked like a lame-duck president. Congress had passed his #1 bill (the tax cut) and was
on the way to passing his #2 bill (the education bill). The scene at the end of the movie in which Bush tells a rich audience "I call you my base" was from an October 2000 charity fund-raiser. Both Gore and Bush spoke at the fund-raiser and, as is the custom at the fund-raiser, made fun of themselves.
and here is 54 more facts distorted
http://www.davekopel.com/Terror/Fiftysix-Deceits-
I don't know if this was a pointed attack on me since it has nothing to do with this thread hence "off topic" MODERATORS Where Art Thou??
I don't usually play around with you fanatical, emotional, left wingers, but it is a slow day at work. Bellow is an article you should read my friend, Vote SMART not by EMOTION!!!
During the past several months in the American press, the Democrats have frequently denounced the Republicans as Nazis due to their attempts to control runaway federal spending. How very ironic. I remember the Nazis. Let me share a little about them and recall some of their exploits.
First of all, "Nazi" was gutter slang for the verb "to nationalize". The Bider-Mienhoff gang gave themselves this moniker during their early struggles. The official title of the Nazi Party was "The National Socialist Workers Party of Germany". Hitler and the Brownshirts advocated the nationalization of education, health care, transportation, national resources, manufacturing, distribution and law enforcement.
Hitler came to power by turning the working class, unemployed, and academic elite against the conservative republic. After Der Fuhrer's election ceased being a political conspiracy and was transformed into a fashionable social phenomenon, party membership was especially popular with educators, bureaucrats, and the press.
Being a Nazi was "politically correct". They called themselves "The Children of the New Age of World Order" and looked down their noses at everyone else. As Hitler acquired more power, he referred to his critics as "The Dark Forces of Anarchy and Hatred". Anyone who questioned Nazi high-handedness in the German press was branded a "Conservative Reactionary". Joseph Goebbels, minister of communications, proclaimed a "New World Order".
The Nazi reign of terror began with false news reports on the Jews, Bohemians and Gypses who were said to be arming themselves to overthrow the "New World Order" and Hitler demanded that all good people register their guns so that they wouldn't fall into the hands of "terrorists and madmen".Right-wing fanatics of the "Old Order" who protested firearms registration were arrested by the S.S. and put in jail for "fomenting hatred against the Government of the German people".
Then the Reichstag (government building) was blown up and Hitler ram-rodded an "Emergency Anti-Terrorist Act" through Parliament that gave the Gestapo extraordinary powers. The leader then declared that for the well-being of the German people, all private firearms were to be confiscated by the Gestapo and the Wermotten (federal law enforcement and military). German citizens who refused to surrender their guns when the "jack-boots" (Gestapo) came calling, were murdered in their homes. By the way, the Gestapo were the federal marshals' service of the Third Reich. The S.W.A.T. team was invented and perfected by the Gestapo to break into the homes of the enemies of the German people.
When the Policia Bewakken, or local police, refused to take away guns from townsfolk, they themselves were disarmed and dragged out into the street and shot to death by the S.A. and the S.S. Those were Nazi versions of the B.A.T.F. and the F.B.I. When several local ministers spoke out against these atrocities, they were imprisoned and never seen again.
The Gestapo began to confiscate and seize the homes, businesses, bank accounts, and personal belongings of wealthy conservative citizens who had prospered in the old Republic. Pamphleteers who urged revolt against the Nazis were shot on site by national law enforcement and the military. Gypsies and Jews were detained and sent to labor camps. Mountain roads throughout central Europe were closed to prevent the escape of fugitives into the wilderness, and to prevent the movement and concealment of partisan resistance fighters.
Public schools rewrote history and Hitler youth groups taught the children to report their parents to their teachers for anti-Nazi remarks. Such parents disappeared. Pagan animism became
Quit your bitching, instead stop calling people who don't have a clue nasty names and throw them a bone.
Who is Indymedia you ask? click the link bellow
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indymedia
My sales drones use salesforce as a major tool and now because it is being /.'ed I'm getting calls from them asking why MY network is slow!!! Geee thanx /.'ers
Excuse me while I throw my phone out the window
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BS install linux then install winblows xp via vmware.. That way when you do install sp2 on the vmare xp virtual box and it blows up you still have an OS to get you by while you reinstall windowx xp on the vmware virtual box.
You almost got it right... here is the original quote in mp3
Well one thing about projectors is that my X1 will beat out many of the $5000 projectors. That new 3M for $4k is the latest. And that one beats many of the $10k ones. The speed in which technology in projectors is catching up to the same speed as CPU's.
Last year there were only 2 different types of projector technologies, this year there are 3 for instance.
But as always you should go down and view any TV or Projector before you buy.
I even got one for work too great little projectors.. Some pixelation if you stand about a foot away or put your nose on the screen. Sceen size 60"x80"
;)
I have only one complaint it is a little dark in video mode. So you have to keep the room very dark. It has Great color, all in all for the $$$ it is worth it.
If you want to spend 4 times as much the new 3m projectetor here
is 3500 lumens which is brighter than the $10K big boys
And I have done most of my reseach for a projector from this page. http://www.projectorcentral.com/
in which I'm very happy with my InFocus X1
Text just in case
:
[ Thanks to Jeremy Allison - Samba Team for this release. ]
Over the past few months, the SCO (Santa Cruz Operation) Corporation (formerly Caldera International, Inc. a Linux distribution vendor) has been complaining about violations of its Copyright works by the Linux kernel code.
Recently, Darl McBride, the Chief Executive Officer of SCO has been making pejorative statements regarding the license used by the Linux kernel, the GNU GPL. In a keynote speech he recently said
"At the end of the day, the GPL is not about making software free; it's about destroying value."
In light of this it is the depths of hypocrisy that at the same event SCO also announced the incorporation of the Samba3 release into their latest OpenServer product. Samba is an Open Source/Free Software project that allows Linux and UNIX servers to interoperate with Microsoft Windows clients. The reason for this is clear; Samba3 allows Linux and UNIX servers to replace Microsoft Windows NT Domain Controllers and will add great value to any Operating System which includes it. However, Samba is also developed and distributed under the GNU GPL license, in exactly the same manner as the Linux kernel code that SCO has been criticizing for its lack of care in ownership attribution.
We observe that SCO is both attacking the GPL on the one hand and benefiting from the GPL on the other hand. SCO can't have it both ways. SCO has a clear choice: either pledge not to use any Open Source/Free Software in any of their products, or actively participate in the Open Source/Free Software movement and reap the benefits. For SCO to continue to use Open Source/Free Software while attacking others for using it is the epitome of hypocrisy.
The strength of Open Source/Free Software is that it is available to all without restrictions on fields of endeavor, as the Samba Team believes the ability to freely use, modify and learn from software code is one of the grounding principles of computer science, and a basic freedom for all.
Because of this, we believe that the Samba must remain true to our principles and be freely available to use even in ways we personally disapprove of.
Even when used by rank hypocrites like SCO.
Jeremy Allison,
Marc Kaplan,
Andrew Bartlett,
Christopher R. Hertel,
Jerry Carter,
Jean Francois Micouleau,
Paul Green,
Rafal Szczesniak.
Samba Team.
Let me start first by saying THIS IS NOT LEGAL ADVICE:
How to bring $CO down to their knees (this is just theory I don't know much about our legal system), one person in every county in each of the fifty states file small claims (extortion) with that county's court near or on the same date. $CO would have to default most if not all those claims, and most likely would have to file bankruptcy on all those defaults. Now here is the kicker after they file bankruptcy everyone file one more small claim under a different argument, such as operating under a false pretenses. They would then not be able to claim bankruptcy on those defaults and would then have to come out of the companies operating cost.
Organizing a grass roots effort to under take such a task would be hard if not impossible, but my question for you lawyers and law students is, would this essentially work in theory? Lets face it; $CO has personally attacked every person of the Open Source Community, I think it is time for the community to do something about this attack and show the world that people make the difference in the US not corporations.
Other high school projects working with Linux. Such as the Linux Thin Client k12 project at Riverdale high school http://k12ltsp.org
The more diversity in computing we teach our kids now the more open minded and out of the box thinking from them will become more prevalent in the future.
I like this one better..
[pinky@brain pinky]$cat porn.mpg > brain
if I remember corectly qmail can be configured to use mysql.
Whatever; the exchange server would not be able to handle the load induced on it by sending that much e-mail to every person in M$... ;)
But as we all know BitchX is the only real irc client
Somewhat off topic, but what grabbed me from the article right off the bat is the classic cool kids picking on or bulling the geeks and the nerds. Which simply boils down to Americans and their understanding of technology and science and the kids not having a role model to look up to in this area?
The Gallup Organization conducted the first-ever public poll in the United States on technological literacy. The poll tested the conceptual and practical understanding of technology, as well as opinions about the importance of studying technology. The results show as a rough gauge of how-or whether-the level of technological literacy changes over time. The results of the poll revealed that most Americans have a very limited view of technology and science. The results emphasize my point that we as a society don't instill enough science and technology in the younger generation as we should. Which leads to again the classic cool kids bulling the geeks scenario.
What gets me is he got moded to a 5....
What do you mean "Pentium-or-better machine (for the partially-built distro) and a bootable CD-ROM"
pffft I'm running a AMD duron 900 and no I did not have the bootable cd. I have installed gentoo many a time with out any problems all across a network.
It can be done, has been done. You just have to have a little common sense and a little linux knowledge.
My main computing platform right now is Gentoo and in no way is my KDE3, Gnome2, or GCC3 are broken. Sure some packages will not compile right on my box but thats because I'm using GCC3.
I'm not sure were you are pulling the "partially-built distro" comment from. But I'm going to assume that you know do not know what packages need to be installed or what a base linux install consists of. Here is an example on how to get a nice fully customized KDE3 desktop; Type "emerge kde" Portage (the package manager) will download and compile not only the latest KDE3 base but its dependices as well. You want office software??? Type "emerge openoffice" Ok maybe you want a web server instead? Type "emerge apache php mysql" Yes it is that easy. The only thing partially about Gentoo is a persons knowledge.
I also have 4 SUN IPX boxes w/ no cdroms all with Gentoo in a cluster. Guess I was lucky to get Gentoo on them according to you. Actually it was easy you just got to know what your doing.
Again this is not a newbie distro, and dose take some time to compile everything. The average user will be asking for help and questions in the Gentoo forums which all the answers are there and everybody is friendly. I have also seen people with no *nix experience what so ever install Gentoo. The advantages outweight the time it takes to bootstrap and compile a base linux install and have it fully customized to your cpu and chipset.