Might I add, your method of killing people is quite similar to how it is done in fascist states. This would not go unnoticed by the general public, and would likely lead to some form of civil unrest.
When I run into this problem I just click on a few of the people and turn them into Elvis. Problem solved.
Doplhins can clearly see and interact with other dolphins on the other side of the fence, and they still don't jump through this one-foot-over-water fence.
But those fences are there for a reason. Perhaps the dolphins are so smart that they realize they're disrupting the order of their tank if they jump over. People climb/jump over barriers they aren't supposed to past, all the time, but that doesn't make them smart.
the cat looking in the mirror doesn't smell any unknown cats
I'm pretty sure that's it, because mine don't react at all to pictures of other cats on my monitors, or the sound of cats making noises on TV. A cat making a noise outside my apartment on the other hand, that's cause for commotion.
Yeah, but the idiots will chase around a laser pointer's projected dot like it's a piece of beef jerky!
That varies depending on the cat, I find. I had two cats until very recently, the younger one had to be put down last week.:( But anyhow, the younger one (about 7 years old, so fully adult), he would chase the laser pointer until I got tired of waving it. The older one, not much older either (about 9), will only chase the laser dot when it first comes out. Once she looks in my direction and notices the red glow coming from my hand, she stops chasing it as though she has figured out where it's coming from and that it's just a trick.
My weirdest "touch" story happened with a friend's computer. They had been having problems for about 6 months but hadn't bugged me about it because they know I have to deal with computers all day, and when I visit them, it's time to drink, not time to fix their computer. So they had let it go, and over time there was a progression of the problem. It started, oddly enough, when one of their relatives had been visiting, and updated their IE for them and added a couple of programs. Programs would start crashing out of the blue, and because of the timing they'd assumed the software updates had something to do with it. Then things started to happen, like the caps lock key would suddenly get stuck in caps mode, and the only way they could get it back was to reboot the computer. Then it progressed to the keyboard suddenly locking up altogether (mouse still worked, OS still responding), accompanied by panicked beeps from the PC internal speaker. Eventually programs were crashing almost constantly, and they started getting those blue screen alerts (Win98) that are often recoverable but in their case no, they'd always have to reboot again. And finally, the computer refused to boot in normal mode anymore, it would only come up in safe mode, they couldn't really do anything anymore so they called me to come check it out.
So, I went over to visit them, and they had a kid they needed to check on so I was left alone for a few minutes. I wandered into the kitchen where the computer was. They'd explained all the symptoms to me on the phone. I was interested in checking out the keyboard first since one of the final things as it was getting really bad was that the keyboard would stop working almost immediately after booting up. So I turned the computer on and didn't bother trying to boot windows I just went straight to the BIOS so I could play with a few of the keys and toggle caps lock on and off, stuff like that. I didn't change anything at all. Satisfied that the keyboard appeared to be working fine with Windows not running, I exited. When I exited the BIOS, out of habit I chose to SAVE and exit as opposed to just exiting. That's really the only potential change that I made, though I hadn't actually flipped any settings. Windows booted up, in normal mode, just as my friends walked into the room. "What did you do? I haven't seen the wallpaper look nice like that in a month!" exclaimed the main user. I was a bit puzzled because in my mind I hadn't actually done anything yet. I got her to sit down at it and load the various apps she worked with on a daily basis, and write a few emails and forum posts and had her chat programs going and several browsers and an IRC session, etc etc. We couldn't make it crash anymore, it entirely failed to misbehave, and that lasted long afterwards.
Since I had brought my tool kit with me in case I needed to open the case to re-seat something, I told them that the computer had seen my tools, gotten scared because I obviously meant business, and to avoid surgery decided to just smarten up.
Double-meh, why are you using such a locked-down system? That's why I keep a PC aside for gaming, you can get into the guts that way, problems be damned and cast to the four winds. Hand in your geek badge at the door.
And to the other respondant with the script-kiddie nick (not going to go posting two separate replies), double-meh to you too, you're not fixing it for Bethsoft, or some idiot customer from work (I do that all day too, and I hate those fucktards), you're fixing it for *you*, and while you're at it, you may learn how to enhance it, still all for you. That's fun where I come from.
Whatever, nevermind. You people would find something else to complain about instead if it wasn't this, like scratches on your iPod nano, or somebody's spelling, or some shit like that. Build around the world's shit instead of bitching, life is way more fulfilling that way.
I think I'm about done with Slashdot, it's been a reasonable run of years, but I just can't stand the whining anymore. I'm out.
I haven't got sympathy for anyone on Slashdot of all places, that wants to complain about a broken quest. Particularly anyone that runs Linux. One of the great strengths of Oblivion, and Morrowind before it, is how far under the hood you can get. Got a broken quest? Then get in the editor and fix it. That should actually be *fun* for most of the people here. I've spent about a month so far not actually playing the game. I've been immersed in the editor, having just as much fun (while admittedly missing the beautiful scenery - the other reason I bought this game), and Morrowind was the same way for me. Either game would be less fun if I couldn't change it up and mold it to my liking. Your mileage may vary, but if you come in here flashing geek creds you can't stop to complain that you need to fix your game. Have FUN fixing it, and improving on it, that's what we do, isn't it?
For example, if the company suddenly started seeing a rash of reports that Windows copies were pirated, it might want to shut down the program to make sure it wasn't delivering false results.
See? If the article is correct, it's already been turned off. Nothing to see here.
It's in our own solar system, for crying out loud. The word you want is "interplanetary".
Well now, that does depend on how jurisdiction is handled in the universe at large. Galactic Troopers can pull you over for exceeding warp 10 pretty much anywhere, but they refuse to hand out parking tickets in planetary systems, leaving that up to local enforcement. But, as the offence is taking place entirely on Jupiter (it's not Jupiter trying to engulf one of its own moons in some incestuous cataclysm), it wouldn't be a matter of interplanetary law either, it's more a matter for the local Jupiterian government to rule on. With the exception of Earth, the rest of our planets (except Pluto, but I'm not allowed to talk about that) exist in a state of anarchy, so that poor six-year old is all on their own unless we vamp up our space program immediately and mount a rescue operation. Won't somebody please think of the children??
It's not a male texture overlaid on a female mesh. It's a female mesh with a female texture. I think the reason people are confused is because the base female body meshes are located in a folder called _male, but just as if a woman walks into the men's room she doesn't suddenly grow a dick, the location means nothing. There are no corrections to make, you just have to unpack the game's art files (using tes4bsa) and delete the regular femaleupperbody.nif and rename the femaleupperbodyNUDE.nif mesh so the game thinks it's using the non-nude one.
Damn, I should have previewed, but step 2. should be extracting mesh archives not the textures, as you obviously need the meshes folder for step 4. Whoops.
As mentioned many other times already, the mod involves pasting a barechested male texture over the female body size.
Trust me, there is nothing male about textures\characters\imperial\female\upperbodyfemal e.dds which is what the nude mesh uses natively, with no modifications at all. The nude mesh simply has to be extracted from the.bsa file the game came with and renamed to replace the non-nude mesh. I am seeing that quite a few people posting to this topic have very different ideas about how this mod is done, so I'll lay it down for you:
There is a third-party program called tes4bsa. Its whole job is to unpack the game's art and sound files from the proprietary archive format they are in. That's all it does, it makes no changes to any of the content at all. It is an essential tool for making your own unique copies of objects for a mod you want to do, as you have to be able to browse to the nif file when making a new object. With Morrowind they gave you all the art files unpacked on the second CD. So this tes4bsa merely enables the tradtional means of modding this game, so that it is available again as we modders were used to with MW.
1. Download tes4bsa, and put it in the Data folder.
2. Run it to unpack the textures archive.
3. Navigate to Data\meshes\characters\_male (yes, it doesn't sound like there's females in here, but there are, don't ask me why)
4. Delete femaleupperbody.nif and rename femaleupperbodynude.nif to drop the word nude.
5. Play the game, find a dead woman (or, um, stalk and kill one) and loot her clothes. See?
Note that no textures were modified, or superimposed on anything, or even touched. No hacking out of mesh coordinates to remove the perma-bra that the default female characters actually use in-game. Just unpack the art files, delete one file and rename another. This content is not the result of any user input whatsoever.
I wonder if there is a connection: Just as many of us don't RTFA, we also seem to have a propensity for not TTFE (trying the fabulous experiment) before talking about it like we know what's happening. This is not a flame on anyone, just an observation.
Then why not put a sports bra or something on the basic character model?
That is in fact what they did: femaleupperbody.nif is the end product of femaleupperbodynude.nif with a bra mesh permanently welded onto it, with the appropriate texture for the bra mapped to that area. Problem is they forgot to turf the nude one, which was no longer needed when the game was ready to ship. The nude one is not used when they have clothes overtop, as one might think that was why it was there, because of problems with the bra messing with the clothing, but no, it does not actually get used by the engine at all. The bottom has a similar mesh with perma-panties, however there is no corresponding nude mesh for that part. Damn.
it would be relatively easy for someone to slightly modify a texture
In this instance though, the texture requires no modification. It has nipples with areolae, and as to the model itself, the nipples even cast shadows. How that is at all necessary for a base reference model escapes me.
I'm not saying it bothers me, hell I went ahead and nuked the non-nude upper body and renamed the nude one so the game would use it, for shits and giggles. So when their upper armour gets looted off their corpse, hey boobies! [insert lame joke about how Slashdotting gamer has to kill women in order to get to see them topless] But Bethsoft did kind of screw up on this one. Yes it's not in the game by default, and the art files in the.bsa archives are not accessible by default, but the content in question did not actually need to be as detailed as it is for them to have something to work from, and indeed should have been deleted before packing up the archives. Now they get to be accused of pulling a Hot Coffee, which sucks for everyone.
drop, what like 10 years or so, of strict training, morals, everything
"A Jedi's strength flows from the Force, but beware the Dark Side. For once you start down that dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will!"
I had the impression that Anakin had gotten some Dark Side momentum going, so it made enough sense to me.
There are a lot of potential things one could craft in the game's editor, and with Nifscope one can get pretty creative in spite of Bethesda not releasing a mesh exporter. So it is indeed out of their control what people do with the game.
The trouble here though is that Bethsoft isn't really being honest with the media on this one. The mesh in question does not have to be modified to be nude, it was MADE that way in their studio. What was 'hacked' was the format of the archive file that contains the meshes, so that the meshes could be extracted. Extracting them is necessary if you want to make unique copies (rather than instances) of objects in the game's editor. The nude female torso mesh is right there. It's not visible in the game, but it did indeed ship with the game and does not require modification to exist. It just has to be fitted to an object reference, and given a world-position.
Yeah, as I'm walking down the street I'm leaving fingerprints all over the air. Dust that, retard. RFID can be scanned as someone simply walks past you.
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What you can't do: recognize a typo.
1 GB memory stick does about 20 dollars/euro's at the moment.
So, for $800 I could carry 40 GB around? In multiple sticks so I'd have to keep them on some kind of techno-bandalier? Sounds like a great deal to me.
a thumbdrive has nowhere near the storage capacity necessary for the average /.er's porn collection.
That's why I carry four other fingers and a Palm.
Might I add, your method of killing people is quite similar to how it is done in fascist states. This would not go unnoticed by the general public, and would likely lead to some form of civil unrest.
When I run into this problem I just click on a few of the people and turn them into Elvis. Problem solved.
Doplhins can clearly see and interact with other dolphins on the other side of the fence, and they still don't jump through this one-foot-over-water fence.
But those fences are there for a reason. Perhaps the dolphins are so smart that they realize they're disrupting the order of their tank if they jump over. People climb/jump over barriers they aren't supposed to past, all the time, but that doesn't make them smart.
the cat looking in the mirror doesn't smell any unknown cats
I'm pretty sure that's it, because mine don't react at all to pictures of other cats on my monitors, or the sound of cats making noises on TV. A cat making a noise outside my apartment on the other hand, that's cause for commotion.
Yeah, but the idiots will chase around a laser pointer's projected dot like it's a piece of beef jerky!
:( But anyhow, the younger one (about 7 years old, so fully adult), he would chase the laser pointer until I got tired of waving it. The older one, not much older either (about 9), will only chase the laser dot when it first comes out. Once she looks in my direction and notices the red glow coming from my hand, she stops chasing it as though she has figured out where it's coming from and that it's just a trick.
That varies depending on the cat, I find. I had two cats until very recently, the younger one had to be put down last week.
My weirdest "touch" story happened with a friend's computer. They had been having problems for about 6 months but hadn't bugged me about it because they know I have to deal with computers all day, and when I visit them, it's time to drink, not time to fix their computer. So they had let it go, and over time there was a progression of the problem. It started, oddly enough, when one of their relatives had been visiting, and updated their IE for them and added a couple of programs. Programs would start crashing out of the blue, and because of the timing they'd assumed the software updates had something to do with it. Then things started to happen, like the caps lock key would suddenly get stuck in caps mode, and the only way they could get it back was to reboot the computer. Then it progressed to the keyboard suddenly locking up altogether (mouse still worked, OS still responding), accompanied by panicked beeps from the PC internal speaker. Eventually programs were crashing almost constantly, and they started getting those blue screen alerts (Win98) that are often recoverable but in their case no, they'd always have to reboot again. And finally, the computer refused to boot in normal mode anymore, it would only come up in safe mode, they couldn't really do anything anymore so they called me to come check it out.
So, I went over to visit them, and they had a kid they needed to check on so I was left alone for a few minutes. I wandered into the kitchen where the computer was. They'd explained all the symptoms to me on the phone. I was interested in checking out the keyboard first since one of the final things as it was getting really bad was that the keyboard would stop working almost immediately after booting up. So I turned the computer on and didn't bother trying to boot windows I just went straight to the BIOS so I could play with a few of the keys and toggle caps lock on and off, stuff like that. I didn't change anything at all. Satisfied that the keyboard appeared to be working fine with Windows not running, I exited. When I exited the BIOS, out of habit I chose to SAVE and exit as opposed to just exiting. That's really the only potential change that I made, though I hadn't actually flipped any settings. Windows booted up, in normal mode, just as my friends walked into the room. "What did you do? I haven't seen the wallpaper look nice like that in a month!" exclaimed the main user. I was a bit puzzled because in my mind I hadn't actually done anything yet. I got her to sit down at it and load the various apps she worked with on a daily basis, and write a few emails and forum posts and had her chat programs going and several browsers and an IRC session, etc etc. We couldn't make it crash anymore, it entirely failed to misbehave, and that lasted long afterwards.
Since I had brought my tool kit with me in case I needed to open the case to re-seat something, I told them that the computer had seen my tools, gotten scared because I obviously meant business, and to avoid surgery decided to just smarten up.
Double-meh, why are you using such a locked-down system? That's why I keep a PC aside for gaming, you can get into the guts that way, problems be damned and cast to the four winds. Hand in your geek badge at the door.
And to the other respondant with the script-kiddie nick (not going to go posting two separate replies), double-meh to you too, you're not fixing it for Bethsoft, or some idiot customer from work (I do that all day too, and I hate those fucktards), you're fixing it for *you*, and while you're at it, you may learn how to enhance it, still all for you. That's fun where I come from.
Whatever, nevermind. You people would find something else to complain about instead if it wasn't this, like scratches on your iPod nano, or somebody's spelling, or some shit like that. Build around the world's shit instead of bitching, life is way more fulfilling that way.
I think I'm about done with Slashdot, it's been a reasonable run of years, but I just can't stand the whining anymore. I'm out.
I haven't got sympathy for anyone on Slashdot of all places, that wants to complain about a broken quest. Particularly anyone that runs Linux. One of the great strengths of Oblivion, and Morrowind before it, is how far under the hood you can get. Got a broken quest? Then get in the editor and fix it. That should actually be *fun* for most of the people here. I've spent about a month so far not actually playing the game. I've been immersed in the editor, having just as much fun (while admittedly missing the beautiful scenery - the other reason I bought this game), and Morrowind was the same way for me. Either game would be less fun if I couldn't change it up and mold it to my liking. Your mileage may vary, but if you come in here flashing geek creds you can't stop to complain that you need to fix your game. Have FUN fixing it, and improving on it, that's what we do, isn't it?
For example, if the company suddenly started seeing a rash of reports that Windows copies were pirated, it might want to shut down the program to make sure it wasn't delivering false results.
See? If the article is correct, it's already been turned off. Nothing to see here.
It's in our own solar system, for crying out loud. The word you want is "interplanetary".
Well now, that does depend on how jurisdiction is handled in the universe at large. Galactic Troopers can pull you over for exceeding warp 10 pretty much anywhere, but they refuse to hand out parking tickets in planetary systems, leaving that up to local enforcement. But, as the offence is taking place entirely on Jupiter (it's not Jupiter trying to engulf one of its own moons in some incestuous cataclysm), it wouldn't be a matter of interplanetary law either, it's more a matter for the local Jupiterian government to rule on. With the exception of Earth, the rest of our planets (except Pluto, but I'm not allowed to talk about that) exist in a state of anarchy, so that poor six-year old is all on their own unless we vamp up our space program immediately and mount a rescue operation. Won't somebody please think of the children??
No, because in Soviet Russia, artist steals you!
Lack of Common Sense Leads to Complete and Total Destruction of Humanity - Film at 11.
Would you trade your life for a second if it was Michael Bolton? What about Yanni?
Considering they both probably get laid way more than I do, yes. In half a second.
BRaAAaAaINS!!!! BRAaAAAaAINZZZ!!
Well, they can't eat them, and you can't force them to get sterilized, so what would you suggest?
It's not a male texture overlaid on a female mesh. It's a female mesh with a female texture. I think the reason people are confused is because the base female body meshes are located in a folder called _male, but just as if a woman walks into the men's room she doesn't suddenly grow a dick, the location means nothing. There are no corrections to make, you just have to unpack the game's art files (using tes4bsa) and delete the regular femaleupperbody.nif and rename the femaleupperbodyNUDE.nif mesh so the game thinks it's using the non-nude one.
Damn, I should have previewed, but step 2. should be extracting mesh archives not the textures, as you obviously need the meshes folder for step 4. Whoops.
As mentioned many other times already, the mod involves pasting a barechested male texture over the female body size.
l e.dds which is what the nude mesh uses natively, with no modifications at all. The nude mesh simply has to be extracted from the .bsa file the game came with and renamed to replace the non-nude mesh. I am seeing that quite a few people posting to this topic have very different ideas about how this mod is done, so I'll lay it down for you:
Trust me, there is nothing male about textures\characters\imperial\female\upperbodyfema
There is a third-party program called tes4bsa. Its whole job is to unpack the game's art and sound files from the proprietary archive format they are in. That's all it does, it makes no changes to any of the content at all. It is an essential tool for making your own unique copies of objects for a mod you want to do, as you have to be able to browse to the nif file when making a new object. With Morrowind they gave you all the art files unpacked on the second CD. So this tes4bsa merely enables the tradtional means of modding this game, so that it is available again as we modders were used to with MW.
1. Download tes4bsa, and put it in the Data folder.
2. Run it to unpack the textures archive.
3. Navigate to Data\meshes\characters\_male (yes, it doesn't sound like there's females in here, but there are, don't ask me why)
4. Delete femaleupperbody.nif and rename femaleupperbodynude.nif to drop the word nude.
5. Play the game, find a dead woman (or, um, stalk and kill one) and loot her clothes. See?
Note that no textures were modified, or superimposed on anything, or even touched. No hacking out of mesh coordinates to remove the perma-bra that the default female characters actually use in-game. Just unpack the art files, delete one file and rename another. This content is not the result of any user input whatsoever.
I wonder if there is a connection: Just as many of us don't RTFA, we also seem to have a propensity for not TTFE (trying the fabulous experiment) before talking about it like we know what's happening. This is not a flame on anyone, just an observation.
Then why not put a sports bra or something on the basic character model?
That is in fact what they did: femaleupperbody.nif is the end product of femaleupperbodynude.nif with a bra mesh permanently welded onto it, with the appropriate texture for the bra mapped to that area. Problem is they forgot to turf the nude one, which was no longer needed when the game was ready to ship. The nude one is not used when they have clothes overtop, as one might think that was why it was there, because of problems with the bra messing with the clothing, but no, it does not actually get used by the engine at all. The bottom has a similar mesh with perma-panties, however there is no corresponding nude mesh for that part. Damn.
it would be relatively easy for someone to slightly modify a texture
.bsa archives are not accessible by default, but the content in question did not actually need to be as detailed as it is for them to have something to work from, and indeed should have been deleted before packing up the archives. Now they get to be accused of pulling a Hot Coffee, which sucks for everyone.
In this instance though, the texture requires no modification. It has nipples with areolae, and as to the model itself, the nipples even cast shadows. How that is at all necessary for a base reference model escapes me.
I'm not saying it bothers me, hell I went ahead and nuked the non-nude upper body and renamed the nude one so the game would use it, for shits and giggles. So when their upper armour gets looted off their corpse, hey boobies! [insert lame joke about how Slashdotting gamer has to kill women in order to get to see them topless] But Bethsoft did kind of screw up on this one. Yes it's not in the game by default, and the art files in the
drop, what like 10 years or so, of strict training, morals, everything
"A Jedi's strength flows from the Force, but beware the Dark Side. For once you start down that dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will!"
I had the impression that Anakin had gotten some Dark Side momentum going, so it made enough sense to me.
There are a lot of potential things one could craft in the game's editor, and with Nifscope one can get pretty creative in spite of Bethesda not releasing a mesh exporter. So it is indeed out of their control what people do with the game.
The trouble here though is that Bethsoft isn't really being honest with the media on this one. The mesh in question does not have to be modified to be nude, it was MADE that way in their studio. What was 'hacked' was the format of the archive file that contains the meshes, so that the meshes could be extracted. Extracting them is necessary if you want to make unique copies (rather than instances) of objects in the game's editor. The nude female torso mesh is right there. It's not visible in the game, but it did indeed ship with the game and does not require modification to exist. It just has to be fitted to an object reference, and given a world-position.
You leave them EVERYWHERE.
Yeah, as I'm walking down the street I'm leaving fingerprints all over the air. Dust that, retard. RFID can be scanned as someone simply walks past you.