It would be funny if the GP was the insightful one and you were the arrogant nitpicker who doesn't get it, eh?
He is saying that your having a tool like nmap is possibly dangerous, because something like distribution of said tool (which is downright horrible of course, way to go UK) can get you in trouble. In the digital world, as you well know, free distribution can occur with a copy and paste command. So he is saying that by having the tool, you are a copy and paste command away from being in trouble with Big Brother, and he may be right. Also note that if you have malware or a badly configured filesharing program, you don't even need to copy paste to be a criminal.
The UN is there to give the illusion of universal order and support the notion of peaceful co-existence between all nations on the planet. Just because it's badly organized and involves stupid people doesn't mean it has a noble goal. I wouldn't want us to leave it.. as long as we are not expending too many resources on its projects.
This idea is so mind-numbingly silly for anyone who has been through a serious CS major that it blows my mind.
Have you never done an operating systems course? Have you never had to mess with the internals of an OS and write modules for it? Have you never had a proper hands-on security course where you need to have uniformity across machines for the various teams involved? People can argue that virtualization solves this, because you can run vmware on any laptop, for instance. But for some things you need to have direct access to hardware, particularly hardware that you can mess with.
Plus, you need a place to eat. Where would your mess hall be? A friggin cafeteria? Pffft.
Things like OpenBSD are the best for security not only because they are designed specifically with it in mind, but because the people working on it are of a limited, genuine species. With that said, it is probably better to be at 'everyone's mercy' than to be at the mercy of corporations who only want your money. It doesn't matter that the people inside them may want your admiration and recognition. It matters very little, at least. The corporations are who you deal with in the end.:(
Look, we don't hate you for what you write - it may well be true. It just has nothing to do with this story, OK? It really is offtopic. In fact I agree with a lot of what you wrote (and disagree with some twisted facts too) but I think the moderators are right modding you down to hell, and maybe banning your IP range. You are annoying people. Annoyed people don't listen. Find a forum to discuss this in a sane way and people might listen.
You are very correct, and this is the heart of the issue for the digital media arguments on copyrights, pricing and so on. It used to be that the tangible products carried the value, and many of us who understand technology and what it really is, therefore, are attached to the tangible product mode of thought. Information should be free, discs can be whatever the hell you want to charge me. Just don't charge me for the info. Charge me for the disc. I can back up the disk and reproduce it on almost free discs, and your charging me for YOUR disc would still be fair.
This is in the utopian universe. In our non-utopian universe, the market does not want to understand this.
This is the cover story, but what *really* happened?
It was a conspiracy, okay? Aliens. And Jews. Jewish Communists, actually. They aboard the ship, saw warning from the submarine officer and pulled the brakes on the ship because he made a bad joke (and sounded a little Arab). And the CIA had the whole thing on tape and we will never know.
Your vigilance however is highly appreciated. Without people always on the guard like this, submarine cowboys will be spooning every other vessel in the water for craps and giggles.
The universe seems mathematical if you use mathematics. If you wear blue glasses, the sun itself is blue.
But the sun is round, no matter what color glasses you wear.
You can choose another mathematical system than the one in use by most people today, define a new set of axioms, and as long as everything is *logical* (i.e., contained by logic) then you will be able to describe the universe, until you run into problems with mathematics itself (godel..etc).
What is so cool about the universe is that logic is universal - independent of us silly little creatures. It is 'out there'. Mathematics is the science of truth, and so it is quite possible to say the universe is as it is because it is the physical embodiment of that.. math necessitates physics. Nobody here is trying to claim that physics necessitates math, even though that is what the scientific method has been following for many a year now.
Great minds like Kasparov should not care very much about what history has to say of them. Human beings are not that big of a deal, just tiny little creatures on a tiny little planet that one day will be gone. Their reverence for each other is of even less consequence.
It's not just about a 'knowledge of cycles' that has been embedded in DNA. He clearly learned about this, i.e., was able to make something along the lines of a conscious decision. Which is fascinating. He thought strategically.
Of course, other animals exhibit baffling behavior as well, like the birds that walk along the ground after an elephant because the elephant's steps cause insects to come of the ground, ready to be eaten. Did they learn that or was it evolved? If they learned it, did they teach it to each other? And how the hell can you evolve something as specific as that? Or was it non-specific and they would do the same if we replace the elephant with a bulldozer?
I know, right? Let's stop trying to understand universal truths that are important enough to transcend human beings and their planet and their entire existence, and instead go back to being lowly pointless animals. Where were you since antiquity, you savior you?
Tax payers have funded worse things than science. By your logic, most of pure mathematics should not be funded or encouraged either, in which case neither you nor JFK would have ever thought twice about the moon (that bright thing in the heavens), and your talk of nuclear physics would get you burnt at a stake. Knowledge is more important than breeding.
You're not allowed to discuss ANYTHING near folks who have dabbled around with Quantum Mechanics. Most statements not formulated as probabilities cause them to cry, or at least fart loudly.
Not quite true! It's very funny and I hate to be serious when someone is genuinely funny, but it's also untrue.
You do not necessarily go against "nature" due only to other emotional drives imposed by instinct. That's what's so cool about being self-aware AND capable of intelligence (universal logic). It's almost painfully obvious but difficult to state at the same time: the brain is capable of regulating your conscious activity due to impulses based on rationale that is irrelevant to human beings altogether. For example, you can refuse to have children, not out of rebellion (egoistic origin) or desire to be different (again ego workings here) but simply due to lack of reason for doing so, or in recognition of difficulties imposed by the choice..etc.
I doubt the song meant to include logic in human nature, but if it did, then those guys really were on crack:)
Do do hear that sound? Loud, thumping sound.. kind of like the marching of angry soldiers if they were wearing sneakers instead of boots? That has to be the army of geeks preparing for the flamewar about to ensue, triggered by that harmless little statement.
Because it would tear away our stratosphere on the way up, you insensitive clod. Why don't you just go side with the debris if that's how you want to roll? Some of us are trying to save a planet here!
Some people really do deserve to get towed away by a troop of Velociraptors, especially those unevolved idiots who park in front of the mammoth stables. Some of us have to go hunting in the morning, you know.
I would love to be in charge of a small derelict satellite on an orbit collision course with a chevy suburban driven by a soccer mom. It would be the best lesson taught to human kind in a good while.
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It would be funny if the GP was the insightful one and you were the arrogant nitpicker who doesn't get it, eh?
He is saying that your having a tool like nmap is possibly dangerous, because something like distribution of said tool (which is downright horrible of course, way to go UK) can get you in trouble. In the digital world, as you well know, free distribution can occur with a copy and paste command. So he is saying that by having the tool, you are a copy and paste command away from being in trouble with Big Brother, and he may be right. Also note that if you have malware or a badly configured filesharing program, you don't even need to copy paste to be a criminal.
Be nice. It's good karma.
The UN is there to give the illusion of universal order and support the notion of peaceful co-existence between all nations on the planet. Just because it's badly organized and involves stupid people doesn't mean it has a noble goal. I wouldn't want us to leave it.. as long as we are not expending too many resources on its projects.
This idea is so mind-numbingly silly for anyone who has been through a serious CS major that it blows my mind.
Have you never done an operating systems course? Have you never had to mess with the internals of an OS and write modules for it? Have you never had a proper hands-on security course where you need to have uniformity across machines for the various teams involved? People can argue that virtualization solves this, because you can run vmware on any laptop, for instance. But for some things you need to have direct access to hardware, particularly hardware that you can mess with.
Plus, you need a place to eat. Where would your mess hall be? A friggin cafeteria? Pffft.
Or at everyone's mercy ;)
Things like OpenBSD are the best for security not only because they are designed specifically with it in mind, but because the people working on it are of a limited, genuine species. With that said, it is probably better to be at 'everyone's mercy' than to be at the mercy of corporations who only want your money. It doesn't matter that the people inside them may want your admiration and recognition. It matters very little, at least. The corporations are who you deal with in the end. :(
Look, we don't hate you for what you write - it may well be true. It just has nothing to do with this story, OK? It really is offtopic. In fact I agree with a lot of what you wrote (and disagree with some twisted facts too) but I think the moderators are right modding you down to hell, and maybe banning your IP range. You are annoying people. Annoyed people don't listen. Find a forum to discuss this in a sane way and people might listen.
You are very correct, and this is the heart of the issue for the digital media arguments on copyrights, pricing and so on. It used to be that the tangible products carried the value, and many of us who understand technology and what it really is, therefore, are attached to the tangible product mode of thought. Information should be free, discs can be whatever the hell you want to charge me. Just don't charge me for the info. Charge me for the disc. I can back up the disk and reproduce it on almost free discs, and your charging me for YOUR disc would still be fair.
This is in the utopian universe. In our non-utopian universe, the market does not want to understand this.
VMWare's basic product has been made completely free (as in beer) last summer. You don't have to invest anything except time.
Unless you are referring to the slavery of being addicted to games now that we can freely play them, I don't think your Orwellian quote makes sense.
This is the cover story, but what *really* happened?
It was a conspiracy, okay? Aliens. And Jews. Jewish Communists, actually. They aboard the ship, saw warning from the submarine officer and pulled the brakes on the ship because he made a bad joke (and sounded a little Arab). And the CIA had the whole thing on tape and we will never know.
Your vigilance however is highly appreciated. Without people always on the guard like this, submarine cowboys will be spooning every other vessel in the water for craps and giggles.
yours truly,
the naive people
The universe seems mathematical if you use mathematics. If you wear blue glasses, the sun itself is blue.
But the sun is round, no matter what color glasses you wear.
You can choose another mathematical system than the one in use by most people today, define a new set of axioms, and as long as everything is *logical* (i.e., contained by logic) then you will be able to describe the universe, until you run into problems with mathematics itself (godel..etc).
What is so cool about the universe is that logic is universal - independent of us silly little creatures. It is 'out there'. Mathematics is the science of truth, and so it is quite possible to say the universe is as it is because it is the physical embodiment of that.. math necessitates physics. Nobody here is trying to claim that physics necessitates math, even though that is what the scientific method has been following for many a year now.
Your homepage just got slashdotted. It's time to upgrade your server, dude.
Great minds like Kasparov should not care very much about what history has to say of them. Human beings are not that big of a deal, just tiny little creatures on a tiny little planet that one day will be gone. Their reverence for each other is of even less consequence.
He played for the fun of it.
Feel free to mock me, however.
If you think we need permission to mock you in this terrible place, you must indeed be new here.
There you go.
Wait did you say Cyrix? Never mind. Clearly my mocking you is the least of your concerns right now.
Yeah. First there was this talk of slashdot-ers having girlfriends, and now we have to help out somebody's wife. These guys have got to be kidding.
It's not just about a 'knowledge of cycles' that has been embedded in DNA. He clearly learned about this, i.e., was able to make something along the lines of a conscious decision. Which is fascinating. He thought strategically.
Of course, other animals exhibit baffling behavior as well, like the birds that walk along the ground after an elephant because the elephant's steps cause insects to come of the ground, ready to be eaten. Did they learn that or was it evolved? If they learned it, did they teach it to each other? And how the hell can you evolve something as specific as that? Or was it non-specific and they would do the same if we replace the elephant with a bulldozer?
I know, right? Let's stop trying to understand universal truths that are important enough to transcend human beings and their planet and their entire existence, and instead go back to being lowly pointless animals. Where were you since antiquity, you savior you?
Tax payers have funded worse things than science. By your logic, most of pure mathematics should not be funded or encouraged either, in which case neither you nor JFK would have ever thought twice about the moon (that bright thing in the heavens), and your talk of nuclear physics would get you burnt at a stake. Knowledge is more important than breeding.
I hope you collapse into a deathly state, or get entangled with a bus, or both.
For some value of 'funny', yes. And the joke will be on the taxpayers.
That said, why can't we change the name of the module at a later time?
You're not allowed to discuss ANYTHING near folks who have dabbled around with Quantum Mechanics. Most statements not formulated as probabilities cause them to cry, or at least fart loudly.
Not quite true! It's very funny and I hate to be serious when someone is genuinely funny, but it's also untrue.
You do not necessarily go against "nature" due only to other emotional drives imposed by instinct. That's what's so cool about being self-aware AND capable of intelligence (universal logic). It's almost painfully obvious but difficult to state at the same time: the brain is capable of regulating your conscious activity due to impulses based on rationale that is irrelevant to human beings altogether. For example, you can refuse to have children, not out of rebellion (egoistic origin) or desire to be different (again ego workings here) but simply due to lack of reason for doing so, or in recognition of difficulties imposed by the choice..etc.
I doubt the song meant to include logic in human nature, but if it did, then those guys really were on crack :)
There is nothing wrong with the BSD license.
Do do hear that sound? Loud, thumping sound.. kind of like the marching of angry soldiers if they were wearing sneakers instead of boots? That has to be the army of geeks preparing for the flamewar about to ensue, triggered by that harmless little statement.
Because it would tear away our stratosphere on the way up, you insensitive clod. Why don't you just go side with the debris if that's how you want to roll? Some of us are trying to save a planet here!
Nobody has managed to put gravitation and QM together yet, and you want to do it in a your-momma-so-fat-joke? Wow.
Some people really do deserve to get towed away by a troop of Velociraptors, especially those unevolved idiots who park in front of the mammoth stables. Some of us have to go hunting in the morning, you know.
I would love to be in charge of a small derelict satellite on an orbit collision course with a chevy suburban driven by a soccer mom. It would be the best lesson taught to human kind in a good while.