Either that or they may try to hold US ISPs liable for not being able to block every bit of "harmful" material hosted overseas from minors.
I can see your point, but I doubt most governments would be cooperative with the US and allow their citizens to be snatched and brought to the US for trial for something so extreme as this. Murder? yes. Drugs? maybe. But porn? no way.
Second, I contemplated quite a bit about how ISPs could be held accountable for "illegal" content a while back and I came to the conclusion (as a programmer) that its almost impossible. To concoct a "filter" that is capable of targeting porn would have be a miracle. I will assume most/. readers have seen porn in ALL of its forms. You've got frontal views, rear views, close ups, extreme close ups, etc. If you can come up with an imaging recognition system that can recognize all these views with 1,2,3, or more bodies male/female/(child? sickos), then you will be one rich SOB, as this can also be aopplied in the police/medical/intelligence fields for other apps.
The ISPs also have no control over who is at the terminal of the computer they are providing to, whether they are a child, parent, or copyright owner, etc.
Personally, I think COPA "probably" enhances the internet, in ethical values for U.S. sites, but its the wrong direction. The real problem at hand is most likely going to be solved by parents being responsible parents and ones who "talk" to their children.. br
Will the FBI try to have foreign parties prosecuted for violating COPA? After all, it works for DMCA and with COPA they only need to have a website that can be accessed from a US IP, they don't need to be offering any services.
This sounds like a troll, but I'll go ahead and respond anyway.
First, DMCA is about protecting copywritten digital content. COPA is about preventing younger audiences from coming into contact with material deemed "pornographic" by the U.S.
Its an american law, so special circumstances can occur. COPA only applies to FTP,HTTP,etc. servers that don't have any "front doors" that prevent "children" from viewing online "porn". There is also controversy with ISPs and libraries having to take responsibility, but I didn't see anything like that in COPA unless they are affiliated with the "porn" servers violating COPA.
I would say, if you're not a US citizen, your internet server is not in the US, your AOK.
ALthough, I'm sure the following cases could make it through the pre-trial if your server violates COPA and:
-your internet server is in america
-you are physically located in the US and
are managing the (non-US) server in question.
It doesn't get more serious than liberty. If you want to be numbered, neutered, and enslaved then go ahead. But don't pretend to be anything other than the slave that you are. You may think others need to lighten up, just like you probably would've told the Hero's of the American Revolution to lighten up.
OK, I'll try to keep this ontopic with the matrix, unlike others in this forum.
First off, define slave.
Here's one meaning:
one that is completely subservient to a dominating influence.
Of course, the term "completely" means that to truly be a slave, you must lose everything including free will, but that's something that cannot be take away. Not even in the matrix.
I can't remember who said it but:
"If you work all your life, then you are a slave. If you do more, then you are free."
Neo was already free when morpheus found him, he "lived two lives" as agent smith so well put it. Thus making him a good candidate to see the Oracle. Just because we lose any liberties does not mean we lose the ability to get them back NOR does it mean we lose our ability to perform such an action which we are not at liberty to perform, or rather our free will, or rather our freedom.
I suggest you rent Braveheart and get it straight, loss of liberty != slavery. You have full control whether you want to be a slave or not (unless you are in the matrix and do not know you are *physically* a slave), as well as how you want to escape or face the rammifications of retaking your lost liberties.
If what you said were true then the sequel would not be plausible because the people left in the matrix could not be saved thus making any efforts to find "The ONE" a waste of time. Well....except for Cypher. Does anyone know if he was killed from the blast or will he be in the sequel?
You make a nice point, except you're no minuteman. Hell, you don't even provide anything to back your point up or even clarify where we are apparently enslaved and how. The term liberties is too broad.Even throwing in words like MPAA and Sen. Hollings is too broad. Unless your a troll or don't want to be taken seriously.
I suggest, instead of trying to TROLL this matrix forum, you choose a more appropriate location. Hell, create a journal entry if you really meant what you said....Oh wait, you're an anonymous coward and can't afford to lose karma points. So I guess YOU must be enslaved...to your own pride.
like I said before, lighten up. Go outside. Watch a sunrise, unless your eyes hurt because you've never used them before. Or maybe watch the sequel. Its ENTERTAINMENT, that's all it is. Just remember you will always have free will. Just take the red pill and you will see this.And who said you had to be piss angry all the time to be a Hero of the American revolution? Oh yeah....some anonymous coward.
And I'm sure all you stupid consumers are more than ready to fork over
$8 to go and watch this, right? And another $20 for the DVD. Money that'll
just go to bribe another politician like Senator Hollings,
Dude, I think you need to cheer up. Here's some links:
The trouble is, if 60 days isn't enough time to audit 25,000 machines it sure as hell isn't enough time to convert them to Linux.
60 days may be very little time, but its not an impossible feat to install linux. With tools like Norton Ghost (which also supports linux now) or redhat kickstart, all you need is 20 apprentices and 20 cds of cloned linux images, and you could accomplish 60 computers per hour, if each load only takes 20 minutes to map(assuming good cd-rom drives). HEck, you can send each apprentice to labs of say 30 computers and that lab can be finished in 20 minutes with 30 cds.
Wow, that's 20 techies each finishing 30 computers per 20 minutes, which ends up being 1800 computers per hour! A lot better odds when compared to the required 17/hr just to make it in 60 days.
Do the math and you'll see that with enough CD-Rs, enough apprentices, and and a well planned image (or sets of images for specific labs) this is just an annoyance like MS. However, this may require extra DHCP,NFS,etc servers or special configurations specific to each subnet. But I'd say anyone managing 25,000 computers prolly has
this covered. Plus, switching to linux might be better in the long run for better structure and user management than winblows2k, but that depends on the capabilities and organization of the admins. Some of us are pretty lazy!:)
The annoying part will come when you have to pry all those users off of MS Word and standardize Abiword or StarOffice into the structure. They won't like it.
Of course, they could make their lives a lot easier and just pay the money.
Members of the select group initially showed some resistance to the process, but in the end the
experience of seeing offending snippets of code on a giant screen in a large auditorium proved humbling,...
Anyone see a parallel to Clockwork Orange?
Assuming he does accomplish this feat...
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So if he actually does manage to travel to the past, what happens to us? Do we just STOP!? Or does everything continue as normal except for one missing professor of physics? And if so, does his going back in time create an alternate time coexisting with our time but using the same space?
even if myst was a "best all time seller" video game, that doesn't mean it will make a good movie.Look at movies like "mario bros." , "street fighter" "mortal" kombat", etc. which many critics declare as "flops", and I'm no critic, but I just don't think the silver screen was their best arena. The only thing that gives myst a possible chance in the video arena is the fact that there is more "content" outside the game, not how well gamers enjoy it.
so unless they throw in a pair of controllers so that the viewer can interact, it would be premature to predict how ANY video game-> movie will do.
What I need are some good resources for formulating a business and political argument against this bill
Well, to start off, have a look at these piracy quotes I'm still compiling, since piracy is the underlying issue supporting hardware digital control. Most of them I just put down because of their ridiculous/hypocritical/ignorant value.
Yeah...I actually did look into that along with mk/linux. And it *would* run linux, but the only things the kernel could access would be anything on the ide bus(hard drive/floppy/cd) and the scsi port on the back. So this is good and bad. Its good if I wanted a standalone linux box without sound or network and could only transport files through cd or floppy. But if I wanted a REAL programming environment or even a router,firewall, or server, I would need to have network capabilities via a PCMCIA NIC card or the appletalk port. Sound would be nice too for programming in the middle of nowhere.
Its a big geek factor to run Linux, but was it really a good choice? Probably not.
What? The guy didn't even mention much about the OS. He was complaining about properties that linux had no control over. So what are you basing your logic of whether it was a good choice to choose linux on? If sharp programs a way to sync with winblows it shouldn't matter what OS their using.
This is a PalmOS and (God help us) WindowsCE market.
Uhh, last I heard, most white collars really don't care what OS is on it, so long as it syncs, functions, is ergunomical, and has some useful proggies. IN FACT, I bet there would be a lot more (GNU?) programs being built for a linux pda, than WindowsCE or PalmOS, given enough time.
Think about the corporate buyer. These guys are conservative. Oh, you mean like the guys in IBM who chose linux? I won't get into this, but you should never assume what people are or what they'll do, even if your one of them. There's a million reasons that could break that assumption.
Apparently the inventor from the article is Selwyn Wright. Coincedentally, there's *another* Selwyn wright in the U.K., described in this article. It would be hilarious if these two were the same person, since this other guy is described as a thug "who has been the subject of almost daily calls to police over the past five years..."
Myst is such a dialogue-free game, all it was about was exploring. At most, the series would just have a cinematography value.
How about instead do a Monkey Island miniseries? Ghost ships, talking skulls, and monkeys! Plus it had PLENTY of witty dialogue. What more could you want on scifi?
...but then who would they cast as threepwood and who would play elaine?
This is *STUPID*. I'm not defending MS, those rat bastards, but how are we supposed to come up with a solution for microsoft when we aren't even "in the loop". We don't know their internal structures, their departments, their "mission statement", their abilities as coders(setting all security and bug issues aside), or how to balance their profit margins.
If you talk to any consultant about reorganizing your proprietary company around open source, they would require some inside information to make some judgement call that doesn't bring the company to its knees, while not screwing the open source community either (one would hope).
That is, unless there are ex-ms-developers who know some stuff listening....but its just a thought.
If globalization is such a problem, then just localize all the variables where they are needed or passed and only use two global functions per file. Geesh, what kind of coffee did you people drink?
What if the kid was addicted to masterbating? so if he decided to spend 36 hours masterbating w/out sleep/food/water to, say for example, Playboy, does that give warrant to sue Playboy Magazine for damages? or to force Playboy to make their magazine "less addictive"?
I've already fallen for sevearal of the/. april fools articles, but this one is interesting. Most of the article checks out ok, including the timing of february when they upgraded kazaa to run with the updated fastTrack protocol. Ignoring the descrepancies in the supposed user agreement, there was one statement that is non-hype:
The Brilliant network is based on a piece
of software called "Altnet Secureinstall," which is bundled with the Kazaa software. That technology can connect to other peer-to-peer networks, ad servers or file servers independently of the Kazaa software and can be automatically updated to add new features, according to Brilliant's filing.
I'm not a kazaa user, but from other slashdot responses, people are reporting lots of "b3d" dll's, registry entries, and other crap that comes with the new kazaa, but has anyone ever found this "Altnet secureinstall" program bundled with it?
Of course, I found no mention of this piece of software on Brilliant Digital's website, or kazza's website (unless you count the statements in the user agreement), or google.
However, if the altnet network is really an elaborate joke by cnet, then why is there a whois entry for altnet.net registered to Brilliant Digital? Domain Name: ALTNET.NET
Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
Network Operations Center
(NO2028-ORG) noc@BDE3D.COM
Brilliant Digital Entertainment
The Debian security team cannot analise all the packages included in Debian for potential security vulnerabilities, since there are just not enough resources to source-code audit all the project. However,
Debian does benefit from the source code audits made by upstream developers or other projects like the Linux Kernel Security Audit Project or the Linux Security-Audit Project.
As a matter of fact, a Debian developer could distribute a trojan in a package and there is no possible way to check it out. Even if they would be introduced in Debian it would be impossible to cover all the
possible situations in which the trojan would execute.
This sticks to the no guarantees license clause. In any case, Debian users can take confidence in that the stable code has a wide audience and most problems would be uncovered through use. It is not
recommended to install untested software in a valuable system in any case (if you cannot provide the necessary code audit). And, in any case, if there were an induced security vulnerability in the distibution,
the process used to include them (using digital signatures) ensures that the problem can be ultimately traced to the developer, and the Debian project has not taken this issues lightly.
>Or compromise the servers where you get your.debs.
>...
>Obviously nobody would have installed (and be updating) a package called "rootkit," but the scripts could be piggybacked on any security update.
First, it doesn't have to be installed through the updates to the server. It's probably actually easier to find some misconfig'd server or vulnerable daemon out there, establish remote access, and install the rootkit from ther. But you do have a point and that's why I just subscribe to bugtraq, etc. and never trust things like the.deb/.rpm updates.
Second, why worry about a rootkit when the underlying problem is how they get IN before the rootkit. I would definitely reccomend looking at securing-debian-howtofor those of you who are unsure of your debian security.
If the only problem were a rootkit changing binaries and installing a backdoor, then all an admin has to do is put a firewall in front of the server and control all the ports so that any unsolicited traffic from getting to the "unknown" daemon listening on port xyz plus stop ALL unsolicited tcp/udp/icmp traffic from leaving the server unless a handshake was completed. Most stateful pcket filters can do this. If your real paranoid, put an IDS (ie: snort www.snort.org) between the server and the outside to look for irregular activity. Worried about one of your services? Find a Proxy to inspect the connections. Worried about corrupt binaries? Install an integrity checker (ie:tripwire. www.tripwire.org)
Obviously, securing a server will require much more than this. Check out Sans.org. But AT A MINIMUM, the above should have been in place already. Hope that helps at least somebody out there.
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Either that or they may try to hold US ISPs liable for not being able to block every bit of "harmful" material hosted overseas from minors.
/. covering "pornographic" image recognition software. Found a lot of good arguments in here.m l
Incidentally, there have been stories on
http://slashdot.org/articles/00/11/15/1354239.sht
Either that or they may try to hold US ISPs liable for not being able to block every bit of "harmful" material hosted overseas from minors.
/. readers have seen porn in ALL of its forms. You've got frontal views, rear views, close ups, extreme close ups, etc. If you can come up with an imaging recognition system that can recognize all these views with 1,2,3, or more bodies male/female/(child? sickos), then you will be one rich SOB, as this can also be aopplied in the police/medical/intelligence fields for other apps.
I can see your point, but I doubt most governments would be cooperative with the US and allow their citizens to be snatched and brought to the US for trial for something so extreme as this. Murder? yes. Drugs? maybe. But porn? no way.
Second, I contemplated quite a bit about how ISPs could be held accountable for "illegal" content a while back and I came to the conclusion (as a programmer) that its almost impossible. To concoct a "filter" that is capable of targeting porn would have be a miracle. I will assume most
The ISPs also have no control over who is at the terminal of the computer they are providing to, whether they are a child, parent, or copyright owner, etc.
Personally, I think COPA "probably" enhances the internet, in ethical values for U.S. sites, but its the wrong direction. The real problem at hand is most likely going to be solved by parents being responsible parents and ones who "talk" to their children..
br
Will the FBI try to have foreign parties prosecuted for violating COPA? After all, it works for DMCA and with COPA they only need to have a website that can be accessed from a US IP, they don't need to be offering any services.
This sounds like a troll, but I'll go ahead and respond anyway.
First, DMCA is about protecting copywritten digital content. COPA is about preventing younger audiences from coming into contact with material deemed "pornographic" by the U.S.
Its an american law, so special circumstances can occur. COPA only applies to FTP,HTTP,etc. servers that don't have any "front doors" that prevent "children" from viewing online "porn". There is also controversy with ISPs and libraries having to take responsibility, but I didn't see anything like that in COPA unless they are affiliated with the "porn" servers violating COPA.
I would say, if you're not a US citizen, your internet server is not in the US, your AOK.
ALthough, I'm sure the following cases could make it through the pre-trial if your server violates COPA and:
-your internet server is in america
-you are physically located in the US and are managing the (non-US) server in question.
But then, I'm no lawyer, do your own research.
It doesn't get more serious than liberty. If you want to be numbered, neutered, and enslaved then go ahead. But don't pretend to be anything other than the slave that you are. You may think others need to lighten up, just like you probably would've told the Hero's of the American Revolution to lighten up.
OK, I'll try to keep this ontopic with the matrix, unlike others in this forum.
First off, define slave. Here's one meaning:
one that is completely subservient to a dominating influence.
Of course, the term "completely" means that to truly be a slave, you must lose everything including free will, but that's something that cannot be take away. Not even in the matrix.
I can't remember who said it but:
"If you work all your life, then you are a slave. If you do more, then you are free."
Neo was already free when morpheus found him, he "lived two lives" as agent smith so well put it. Thus making him a good candidate to see the Oracle. Just because we lose any liberties does not mean we lose the ability to get them back NOR does it mean we lose our ability to perform such an action which we are not at liberty to perform, or rather our free will, or rather our freedom. I suggest you rent Braveheart and get it straight, loss of liberty != slavery. You have full control whether you want to be a slave or not (unless you are in the matrix and do not know you are *physically* a slave), as well as how you want to escape or face the rammifications of retaking your lost liberties.
If what you said were true then the sequel would not be plausible because the people left in the matrix could not be saved thus making any efforts to find "The ONE" a waste of time. Well....except for Cypher. Does anyone know if he was killed from the blast or will he be in the sequel?
You make a nice point, except you're no minuteman. Hell, you don't even provide anything to back your point up or even clarify where we are apparently enslaved and how. The term liberties is too broad.Even throwing in words like MPAA and Sen. Hollings is too broad. Unless your a troll or don't want to be taken seriously.
I suggest, instead of trying to TROLL this matrix forum, you choose a more appropriate location. Hell, create a journal entry if you really meant what you said....Oh wait, you're an anonymous coward and can't afford to lose karma points. So I guess YOU must be enslaved...to your own pride.
like I said before, lighten up. Go outside. Watch a sunrise, unless your eyes hurt because you've never used them before. Or maybe watch the sequel. Its ENTERTAINMENT, that's all it is. Just remember you will always have free will. Just take the red pill and you will see this.And who said you had to be piss angry all the time to be a Hero of the American revolution? Oh yeah....some anonymous coward.
And I'm sure all you stupid consumers are more than ready to fork over $8 to go and watch this, right? And another $20 for the DVD. Money that'll just go to bribe another politician like Senator Hollings,
Dude, I think you need to cheer up. Here's some links:
Parody of the Matrix script.
spoof of the film in a series of still pictures using Internet Relay Chat and hacking terminology.
slashdot article covering the previous spoof in a series of still text using Usenet and linux terminology:
parody of the matrix in a comic strip.
The Matrix Parody Poster...???
The Agent Smith Memorial Page
Mr. T vs. The Matrix
Yet another matrix wazzup
The matrix trojan (great for LAN parties!!)
Matrix vs. The X-files
The trouble is, if 60 days isn't enough time to audit 25,000 machines it sure as hell isn't enough time to convert them to Linux.
:)
60 days may be very little time, but its not an impossible feat to install linux. With tools like Norton Ghost (which also supports linux now) or redhat kickstart, all you need is 20 apprentices and 20 cds of cloned linux images, and you could accomplish 60 computers per hour, if each load only takes 20 minutes to map(assuming good cd-rom drives). HEck, you can send each apprentice to labs of say 30 computers and that lab can be finished in 20 minutes with 30 cds. Wow, that's 20 techies each finishing 30 computers per 20 minutes, which ends up being 1800 computers per hour! A lot better odds when compared to the required 17/hr just to make it in 60 days.
Do the math and you'll see that with enough CD-Rs, enough apprentices, and and a well planned image (or sets of images for specific labs) this is just an annoyance like MS. However, this may require extra DHCP,NFS,etc servers or special configurations specific to each subnet. But I'd say anyone managing 25,000 computers prolly has this covered. Plus, switching to linux might be better in the long run for better structure and user management than winblows2k, but that depends on the capabilities and organization of the admins. Some of us are pretty lazy!
The annoying part will come when you have to pry all those users off of MS Word and standardize Abiword or StarOffice into the structure. They won't like it.
Of course, they could make their lives a lot easier and just pay the money.
Members of the select group initially showed some resistance to the process, but in the end the experience of seeing offending snippets of code on a giant screen in a large auditorium proved humbling,...
Anyone see a parallel to Clockwork Orange?
So if he actually does manage to travel to the past, what happens to us? Do we just STOP!?
Or does everything continue as normal except for one missing professor of physics?
And if so, does his going back in time create an alternate time coexisting with our time but using the same space?
even if myst was a "best all time seller" video game, that doesn't mean it will make a good movie.Look at movies like "mario bros." , "street fighter" "mortal" kombat", etc. which many critics declare as "flops", and I'm no critic, but I just don't think the silver screen was their best arena. The only thing that gives myst a possible chance in the video arena is the fact that there is more "content" outside the game, not how well gamers enjoy it.
so unless they throw in a pair of controllers so that the viewer can interact, it would be premature to predict how ANY video game-> movie will do.
I always wondered where they retired the 20,000 leagues under the sea ride from Disney World.
Dude, I think your putting too much effort into this. Especially if you're doing them anonymously. But it was funny, none the less.
What I need are some good resources for formulating a business and political argument against this bill
Well, to start off, have a look at these piracy quotes I'm still compiling, since piracy is the underlying issue supporting hardware digital control. Most of them I just put down because of their ridiculous/hypocritical/ignorant value.
Yeah...I actually did look into that along with mk/linux. And it *would* run linux, but the only things the kernel could access would be anything on the ide bus(hard drive/floppy/cd) and the scsi port on the back. So this is good and bad. Its good if I wanted a standalone linux box without sound or network and could only transport files through cd or floppy. But if I wanted a REAL programming environment or even a router,firewall, or server, I would need to have network capabilities via a PCMCIA NIC card or the appletalk port. Sound would be nice too for programming in the middle of nowhere.
Too bad anyone with $2000 (back in 1997) worth of powerbook 1400 rubble liing around are STILL screwed. Check out the hw-support
Oh well...there's always other options:
Apokalypse linux
MachTen
Its a big geek factor to run Linux, but was it really a good choice? Probably not.
What? The guy didn't even mention much about the OS. He was complaining about properties that linux had no control over. So what are you basing your logic of whether it was a good choice to choose linux on? If sharp programs a way to sync with winblows it shouldn't matter what OS their using.
This is a PalmOS and (God help us) WindowsCE market.
Uhh, last I heard, most white collars really don't care what OS is on it, so long as it syncs, functions, is ergunomical, and has some useful proggies. IN FACT, I bet there would be a lot more (GNU?) programs being built for a linux pda, than WindowsCE or PalmOS, given enough time.
Think about the corporate buyer. These guys are conservative.
Oh, you mean like the guys in IBM who chose linux? I won't get into this, but you should never assume what people are or what they'll do, even if your one of them. There's a million reasons that could break that assumption.
just my $0.000002
Apparently the inventor from the article is Selwyn Wright. Coincedentally, there's *another* Selwyn wright in the U.K., described in this article.
It would be hilarious if these two were the same person, since this other guy is described as a thug "who has been the subject of almost daily calls to police over the past five years..."
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PQ: On a personal note, what do you like to do in your spare time?
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Charbonneau: I find home beer-brewing very satisfying.
David this one's on me!
http://beer.trash.net/beerget.php?yourbeer=101783
good luck on your quest buddy.
Myst is such a dialogue-free game, all it was about was exploring. At most, the series would just have a cinematography value.
How about instead do a Monkey Island miniseries?
Ghost ships, talking skulls, and monkeys! Plus it had PLENTY of witty dialogue. What more could you want on scifi?
...but then who would they cast as threepwood and who would play elaine?
This is *STUPID*. I'm not defending MS, those rat bastards, but how are we supposed to come up with a solution for microsoft when we aren't even "in the loop". We don't know their internal structures, their departments, their "mission statement", their abilities as coders(setting all security and bug issues aside), or how to balance their profit margins.
If you talk to any consultant about reorganizing your proprietary company around open source, they would require some inside information to make some judgement call that doesn't bring the company to its knees, while not screwing the open source community either (one would hope).
That is, unless there are ex-ms-developers who know some stuff listening....but its just a thought.
If globalization is such a problem, then just localize all the variables where they are needed or passed and only use two global functions per file. Geesh, what kind of coffee did you people drink?
What if the kid was addicted to masterbating? so if he decided to spend 36 hours masterbating w/out sleep/food/water to, say for example, Playboy, does that give warrant to sue Playboy Magazine for damages? or to force Playboy to make their magazine "less addictive"?
> April Fools?
/. april fools articles, but this one is interesting. Most of the article checks out ok, including the timing of february when they upgraded kazaa to run with the updated fastTrack protocol. Ignoring the descrepancies in the supposed user agreement, there was one statement that is non-hype:
I've already fallen for sevearal of the
The Brilliant network is based on a piece of software called "Altnet Secureinstall," which is bundled with the Kazaa software. That technology can connect to other peer-to-peer networks, ad servers or file servers independently of the Kazaa software and can be automatically updated to add new features, according to Brilliant's filing.
I'm not a kazaa user, but from other slashdot responses, people are reporting lots of "b3d" dll's, registry entries, and other crap that comes with the new kazaa, but has anyone ever found this "Altnet secureinstall" program bundled with it? Of course, I found no mention of this piece of software on Brilliant Digital's website, or kazza's website (unless you count the statements in the user agreement), or google.
However, if the altnet network is really an elaborate joke by cnet, then why is there a whois entry for altnet.net registered to Brilliant Digital?
Domain Name: ALTNET.NET
Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
Network Operations Center
(NO2028-ORG) noc@BDE3D.COM
Brilliant Digital Entertainment
I guess we'll find out soon.
Oh yeah....FIY...Debian already covered their ass:
from securing-debian-howto
11.1.6 Are all Debian packages safe?
The Debian security team cannot analise all the packages included in Debian for potential security vulnerabilities, since there are just not enough resources to source-code audit all the project. However, Debian does benefit from the source code audits made by upstream developers or other projects like the Linux Kernel Security Audit Project or the Linux Security-Audit Project.
As a matter of fact, a Debian developer could distribute a trojan in a package and there is no possible way to check it out. Even if they would be introduced in Debian it would be impossible to cover all the possible situations in which the trojan would execute.
This sticks to the no guarantees license clause. In any case, Debian users can take confidence in that the stable code has a wide audience and most problems would be uncovered through use. It is not recommended to install untested software in a valuable system in any case (if you cannot provide the necessary code audit). And, in any case, if there were an induced security vulnerability in the distibution, the process used to include them (using digital signatures) ensures that the problem can be ultimately traced to the developer, and the Debian project has not taken this issues lightly.
>Or compromise the servers where you get your .debs.
.deb/.rpm updates.
>...
>Obviously nobody would have installed (and be updating) a package called "rootkit," but the scripts could be piggybacked on any security update.
First, it doesn't have to be installed through the updates to the server. It's probably actually easier to find some misconfig'd server or vulnerable daemon out there, establish remote access, and install the rootkit from ther. But you do have a point and that's why I just subscribe to bugtraq, etc. and never trust things like the
Second, why worry about a rootkit when the underlying problem is how they get IN before the rootkit. I would definitely reccomend looking at securing-debian-howtofor those of you who are unsure of your debian security.
If the only problem were a rootkit changing binaries and installing a backdoor, then all an admin has to do is put a firewall in front of the server and control all the ports so that any unsolicited traffic from getting to the "unknown" daemon listening on port xyz plus stop ALL unsolicited tcp/udp/icmp traffic from leaving the server unless a handshake was completed. Most stateful pcket filters can do this. If your real paranoid, put an IDS (ie: snort www.snort.org) between the server and the outside to look for irregular activity. Worried about one of your services? Find a Proxy to inspect the connections. Worried about corrupt binaries? Install an integrity checker (ie:tripwire. www.tripwire.org)
Obviously, securing a server will require much more than this. Check out Sans.org. But AT A MINIMUM, the above should have been in place already. Hope that helps at least somebody out there.