Domain: 2600.com
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Re:Panera...
Moral of the story: Make wi-fi free and charge $10 for a beverage.
Charging $10 for drinks wouldn't be needed. To make it easy for a qick calculation, say the cafe is open 10 hours and sells 50 items an hour. That comes out to 500 items a day, adding 5 cents per item will mean $25 per day or using 30 days per month $750 per month in extra income. On to costs of providing the service. Say a server setup with WiFi is $2000, though an actual system should cost much less. Next is the internet access, again for ease say it's $100 per month. Next you need someone to maintain the system. If you're lucky there may be a 2600 meeting, User Groupmeeting, or other meetings can be found in the area where a person who's capable can be found that will be willing to maintain the system for say $500 per month. Including the system cost the first 14 month's cost would be $10,200 and revenue $10,500. By the fourteenth month the system is paid for and there after is extra profit. Now if sales increases the system will be paid off earlier. Of course this may not include all of the costs being as it was quick but the point is that it doesn't take $10 drinks to pay for WiFi service.
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Its funny because this CIA operative in question was already publicly identified at a hacker conference by an uperanking official of the CIA. If you listen to this weeks broadcast of off the hook they have documented audio proof it. You can dl the broadcast at http://www.2600.com./ Might possibly have been last weeks broadcast, my memory fails me.
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Re: Aptel
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Re:Who's posting the torrent?
And this is precisely the reason why people should (myself included) support groups like 2600 (http://www.2600.com/ with their excellent Off The Hook show. Yes, you can download it, but shows like this (by hackers for hackers) deserve financial support more than the latest over-marketed, over-hyped, *wood "blockbuster".
The same applies to video games too. Why buy the latest generic release from EA, when you can buy some innovative, lovingly crafted, software from guys like Introversion (http://www.introversion.co.uk./
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Re:Talk about jumping version numbers
my version of Windows XP (which includes SP 2)is actually Windows 5.1.2600.
Which is why it's so easy to crack.
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Re:example?
After the way he twisted the "facts" of the Kevin Mitnick story I just don't trust him at all.
That's a pretty good example. If you don't know about it, you don't have to look very far to confirm that Markoff is lacking in credibility. -
Re:Irony...
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Re:Irony...
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2600 has already covered this
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"Full" List of April Fools Jokes on the Web
Isn't April Fools Day just the best? =] For a 'full' list of sites pulling pranks today check out this list here
Here is a sample:
dotget.net - Microsoft to put P2P software .GET into next version of Windows
kylewenda.com - the government records your phone calls... scary
rfc-editor.org - RFC for "Requirements for Morality Sections in Routing Area Drafts"
waferbaby.com - amusing php error
planet.gentoo.org - Various things, CFLAGS, etc
fark.com - Many Jokes (keep reloading): BOOBIES!, Logged in as admin, North-Central Kentucky Bunghole-Discharge, page from 1999, BEER
2600.com - Formal Attire required for 2600 meetings today
forumsector.com - Changed the name to Nascar Sector
wikipedia.org - Britannica taking over Wikimedia
google.com - Google releases Google Gulp
kellyosbourne.org - Sanctuary records group shut us down
nukefreezone.net - Making fun of atrios.blogspot.com
weebl.jolt.co.uk - Replaced with Cats-By-Mail
telecom.co.nz - Click 2 Brick
ytmnd.com - (NSFW) hacked by teens for christ
wingus.ampedhost.com - Site converted into Mingus' Gently-Used Furniture store. Oh dear. Why won't he be kind?
homestarrunner.com - Now a pay service.
whirlpool.net.au - Australia's biggest Luddite to head Australia's largest telco
thinkgeek.com - Fake product listings.
theregister.co.uk - Bush twins to join Air Force tech unit in Iraq
creativebits.org - Site purchased by Microsoft -
April Fools Day is Great isn't it?
For a full list of sites that pulled April Fools Day Pranks this year check out this list here -
Here is a sampling:
dotget.net - Microsoft to put P2P software .GET into next version of Windows
kylewenda.com - the government records your phone calls... scary
rfc-editor.org - RFC for "Requirements for Morality Sections in Routing Area Drafts"
planet.gentoo.org - Various things, CFLAGS, etc
fark.com - Many Jokes (keep reloading): BOOBIES!, Logged in as admin, North-Central Kentucky Bunghole-Discharge, page from 1999, BEER
2600.com - Formal Attire required for 2600 meetings today
forumsector.com - Changed the name to Nascar Sector
wikipedia.org - Britannica taking over Wikimedia
google.com - Google releases Google Gulp
kellyosbourne.org - Sanctuary records group shut us down
nukefreezone.net - Making fun of atrios.blogspot.com
weebl.jolt.co.uk - Replaced with Cats-By-Mail
wingus.ampedhost.com - Site converted into Mingus' Gently-Used Furniture store. Oh dear. Why won't he be kind?
homestarrunner.com - Now a pay service.
whirlpool.net.au - Australia's biggest Luddite to head Australia's largest telco
theregister.co.uk - Bush twins to join Air Force tech unit in Iraq
creativebits.org - Site purchased by Microsoft
ocremix.org - Now partnered with EA (or something like that). Called EA ReMix.
spacedaily.com - Bush Cancels Space Shuttle Program
planet.gnome.org - Switched sites with planet.kde.org
planet.kde.org - Switched sites with planet.gnome.org
ietf.org - RFC: Efficient Transformation Formats of Unicode
beejaysworld.de - Gentoo dropping livecds for x86
nature.com - Apollo bacteria spur lunar erosion
antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov - Water On Mars -
April Fools Day is Great isn't it?
For a full list of sites that pulled April Fools Day Pranks this year check out this list here Here is a sampling: dotget.net - Microsoft to put P2P software
.GET into next version of Windows
kylewenda.com - the government records your phone calls... scary
rfc-editor.org - RFC for "Requirements for Morality Sections in Routing Area Drafts"
waferbaby.com - amusing php error
planet.gentoo.org - Various things, CFLAGS, etc
fark.com - Many Jokes (keep reloading): BOOBIES!, Logged in as admin, North-Central Kentucky Bunghole-Discharge, page from 1999, BEER
2600.com - Formal Attire required for 2600 meetings today
forumsector.com - Changed the name to Nascar Sector
wikipedia.org - Britannica taking over Wikimedia
google.com - Google releases Google Gulp
kellyosbourne.org - Sanctuary records group shut us down
nukefreezone.net - Making fun of atrios.blogspot.com
weebl.jolt.co.uk - Replaced with Cats-By-Mail
telecom.co.nz - Click 2 Brick
ytmnd.com - (NSFW) hacked by teens for christ
wingus.ampedhost.com - Site converted into Mingus' Gently-Used Furniture store. Oh dear. Why won't he be kind?
homestarrunner.com - Now a pay service.
whirlpool.net.au - Australia's biggest Luddite to head Australia's largest telco
thinkgeek.com - Fake product listings.
theregister.co.uk - Bush twins to join Air Force tech unit in Iraq
creativebits.org - Site purchased by Microsoft
ocremix.org - Now partnered with EA (or something like that). Called EA ReMix.
spacedaily.com - Bush Cancels Space Shuttle Program
planet.gnome.org - Switched sites with planet.kde.org
planet.kde.org - Switched sites with planet.gnome.org
ietf.org - RFC: Efficient Transformation Formats of Unicode
beejaysworld.de - Gentoo dropping livecds for x86
nature.com - Apollo bacteria spur lunar erosion
antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov - Water On Mars -
Hacker Radio and Spoken Word
There's lots and lots (some would say too much) of "Hacker"-slanted talk radio shows downloadable and streamable from several popular sites.
2600 Magazine's Off The Hook has enjoyed regular broadcasts from WBAI in New York as well as being re-broadcast live on the web.
Binary Revolution Magazine's HackRadio has been fairly steady with lots of archived shows and a wide variety of speakers and topics [i am biased as i had a brief stint as a guest host].
Lots of these shows get re-broadcast on Rant Radio, a sort of free speech and alternative media cavalcade put into streaming form. I don't think you can download the shows from them but you can l33ch them at night with a varitety of free tools and listen to them in the morning.
If your Google Fu is good, you can find lots of mp3's of Jello Biafra, Richard Stallman, Larry Lessig, Noam Chompsky, and various other popular speakers talking about things techie or otherwise. -
Re:podcasts
I've always enjoyed 2600's Off The Hook. They have a huge archive and you can even subscribe to their RSS feed for podcasting.
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Re:Quirks and Quarks
I have to second the Quirks and Quarks show, it is truly superb
The 2600 group has archives of their shows going back to 1986, there
is a great wealth of hacking and phreaking information under the title
'off the hook', http://www.2600.com/
You can also find other shows produced by Emanuel, like the 'Off The Wall'
and the 'Brain Damage'.
2600 also have organized few different hacker conferences (hope series)
and two most recent conferences have all of the audio online:
http://www.the-fifth-hope.org/hoop/5hope_speakers. khtml
conference from 2004, over 70 speakers, tons of listening material on
variety of topics like lockpicking, hacking, social engineering, spies
and even info on Romania's IT.. First Hope conference to which Kevin
Mitnick showed up to.
http://www.h2k2.net/panels.html
conference from 2002, everything online, also a great variety
http://www.h2k.net/panels.html
conference from 2000, not everything is in mp3 form
the author mentioned audio books, I am not sure what audiobooks he has
been listening to but there is alot of choice, you dont have to listen
to Robert Jordans another WoT 1000 page book, you can pick up an audio
book that satisfies your 'geekinees', here are books that I am waiting
at my library to take out and listen in my car:
- Bill Bryson - A Short History Of Nearly Everything
- Richard P Feynman - What Do You Care What Other People Think
- Richard Wolfson - Einstein's Relativity and the Quantum Revolution
- Stephne Hawking - Breif History of Time
Another thing that the person might look into are abridged books. I had
a chance to listen to the 'Time Machine' that was abridged down to two
hours. He could listen first part on the way to work, and second part
on the way back. It definitelly is different listening to a two hour
abridged book than listening to a 45hour unabridged book.
enjoy
-- /apz, Based on obituary notices: mean and unimportant people never die -
2600
It's going to sound lame, but you can get some reasonably good audio from 2600.
2600
Or Sun has their Java evangelists create real audio lectures.
Also, I purchased Verbal Advantage
Verbal Advantage
When going through DC I listen to C-SPAN Radio, or whenever available.
C-SPAN Radio
When available, I listen to NPR.
NPR
If it's the wee hours, I listen to Coast to Coast AM
Coast to Coast AM
I also like Neil Boortz.
I also purchased "Word Smart" and "Grammar Smart" on Amazon.com, which are published by the Princeton Review. -
Fifth HOPE
The Fifth HOPE conference had some great lectures. Here's a link.
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An unfortunate case.
From my experience, there is simply no way around having interlopers on your network unless you tunnel an ipsec'ed connection over the air. Granted many ap's use default settings, but even those that do not can usually be sniffed for legitimate mac addresses and subverted. To see if your ap is susceptible, you can test it against this month's article in 2600.
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Post lacks logical consistency
Contrary to popular belief most (or at least a lot) of what the NSA does isn't all that secret.
Later on...
The really secret stuff is done by the SIGINT folks.
WTF!? They're "not that secret" but they do "really secret stuff"?
That fact is that the NSA is a highly secretive organization. Try reading their employee manual. As a matter of fact, if you asked me for an example of a "secretive organization", the NSA would be one of the first examples to come to mind.
Heck, the only guys at NSA HQ who even carry guns are the security guards.
OBVIOUSLY. If you're in a building that HAS SECURITY GUARDS, chances are you don't need to carry a gun inside that building. What point are you trying to make here?
That they don't run around shooting people inside their own building?
That all having been said, whoever "harvested" this information is asking for trouble.
I wouldn't say they are "asking" for trouble, but they might get it anyways. Look what the secret service did to Bernie S for taking pictures of an agent picking his nose. -
Post lacks logical consistency
Contrary to popular belief most (or at least a lot) of what the NSA does isn't all that secret.
Later on...
The really secret stuff is done by the SIGINT folks.
WTF!? They're "not that secret" but they do "really secret stuff"?
That fact is that the NSA is a highly secretive organization. Try reading their employee manual. As a matter of fact, if you asked me for an example of a "secretive organization", the NSA would be one of the first examples to come to mind.
Heck, the only guys at NSA HQ who even carry guns are the security guards.
OBVIOUSLY. If you're in a building that HAS SECURITY GUARDS, chances are you don't need to carry a gun inside that building. What point are you trying to make here?
That they don't run around shooting people inside their own building?
That all having been said, whoever "harvested" this information is asking for trouble.
I wouldn't say they are "asking" for trouble, but they might get it anyways. Look what the secret service did to Bernie S for taking pictures of an agent picking his nose. -
Re:Here's an idea...
Apparently, you don't get it. See this.
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Mitnick
remember this
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Re:Not a scam... Just a shoddy carrier.
Could be someone spoofing ANI from a land line as well. It's trivial to spoof with the right soft/hardware. I guess I read too much 2600...
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Not quite...
Valenti has said a bunch of crappy things to be sure, but not that.It was Turner Broadcasting CEO Jamie Kellner who assured us that "there's a certain amount of tolerance for going to the bathroom".
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Support 2600
As I hope everyone knows, the zine 2600 has been around for a long time, and focuses on all things hackish. It's a great magazine, and deserves the support of the community.
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Re:Breaking up...Check out the Fall 2004 cover for 2600 magazine. Is that prophetic or what?
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EOT
At least 2600 is still up.
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Re:Did you get permission to use that link?
"You must not link to any Sony Site without first obtaining the prior written consent of Sony and such consent must be signed by Sony's Director of Business Affairs to be valid."
2600 Magazine has already taken this to court against Ford Motor Company and won. A website cannot legally prevent someone from linking to them. Here's a link to the article. The World Wide Web cannot exist in it's present form without the ability to link to anyone you choose. Take Slashdot as example. What if all the websites in these stories didn't want to be linked to? No more Slashdot.. Linking is the premise that the World Wide Web is built on.
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Re:UmmBut this hyper vigilence is working to capture lots of really dangerous criminals. Like:
- Improper storage of cocoa and marshmallows
- Posession with intent to distribute of a conterfeit Rubik's Cube
- Violation of a work visa (after the employer was ordered to fire him)
- Eating curry?
- Photographing Cheney's Hotel
- Finding sensors on public lan near area 51
- Bribing city officials to let customers touch topless dancers
If this was on SNL 4+ years ago it would have been some funny shit.
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Re:By degree
Amen to that! Try to read this interesting article at the 2600.
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Re:By degree
Amen to that! Try to read this interesting article at the 2600.
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Re:2600 words?
2600 is the name of a Hacker Quarterly.
Wikipedia Article
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Re:it will do shit-all
Yeah, this is an interesting read if you have the time . . .
2600.com
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Registrations don't imply useIt is a standard practice for companies to register their name followed by "sucks" in order to prevent someone else from registering it as a protest site. Or some will register many combinations of their name in case they think up a business use or to prevent someone from developing a domain name of something similar to theirs.
2600 Magazine reported in an issue last year that in addition to "verizon.com" and "verizonsucks.com" and the domains relating to Verizon Wireless, that Verizon has registered more than 700 domains in order to keep someone else from registering them.
At one time I registered all 4 important versions of my full name (.COM,
.NET, .ORG and .US) even though at the time I wasn't sure what I would do with them, because it only costs $9 each per year (or less). Even for an individual to register all 4 variations it's a once a year cost equivalent to one dinner at a good restaurant For a single domain in one TLD it's less than the cost of a DVD.To put it simply, if you're thinking of doing anything on the 'net with commercial potential, domain registration is a (very) cheap form of insurance.
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Re:please report to the nearest Free Speech Zone
I'm a little more conserned about Pier 57 to be honest.
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The same threat as cellular phones.
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The same threat as cellular phones.
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Re:One Possible Solution
You would think, wouldn't you?
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Re:Here's a linkEven 2600 doesn't believe this was some type of conspiracy. Your claim suggests you know nothing of how bots and spiders work and of the robots.txt standards. All voluntary.
From the 2600 article:Certainly anyone who maintains a large website has made some sort of technical mistake at least once, and the promptness with which the error was fixed after it was pointed out suggests that the White House had no interest in keeping it in place.
Yup. That's why you posted anonymous. I just hope the fool who modded you up gets taken down in metamod. -
Re:www.fallwellsucks.com
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Also in 2600
There was also an interesting article in this summer 2600 magazine about magstrips. Some information and code were supplied... -
Re:I call BS on that "test""Let me be among the first to call "Bullshit" on this supposed test." [+ note on looking up Received: headers]
Indeed. We seem lucky so far that most such scams are falling down at the most obvious hurdles. However, it does make you think about the awful lack of security amongst many comanies that you do business with.
The main thing stopping me being defrauded by email scams is the lack of people who know enough about the transactions I'm doing to imitate them. Sure it's easy to recognise a letter from a bank which isn't mine, or that doesn't even operate in my country, but what happens when someone finally tries it on with a 2-person company that I'm doing business with? It's scary the amount of trust we have in "obscurity".
[+] The buck has to start with the banks really, because they're supposed to be the gold standard for internet security. And it's worrying that Natwest (and possibly still HSBC) were denying access to customers unless they use Internet Explorer on Windows, even after all the spoofing attacks that were (are?) so trivial on that browser.
[+] Then you get the medium-sized companies. People like Maplin Electronics, who display your password on screen, and then send it to you by email.
[+] Small companies. My website provider. I get the distinct and worrying impression that they'll follow orders from anyone who sends an email with my name in the "From" field.
Do you think it's possible for a criminal to guess information about who you're buying from or selling to? Ask the people with Windows viruses -- their entire email history is available and regularly used by the virus.
How many windows users have got emails from you? If any of them opens an EXE attachment, the virus-writer can imitate everything, right down to the way you sign-off your emails, and you can't beat that if you want the people on someones' contact list to trust an email you send... Don't talk about encryption and signatures here -- I've never got a PGP message from someone who I didn't setup the keys myself.
[+] And of course, we have the one-person internet companies. "Security? Yes we have SSL" Aargh. People who you're talking to about confidential stuff, you ask for a PGP key and they respond "we're planning to get HTTPS on our website sometime". I don't care - it's how secure is the computer you're keeping my details on that counts, and it had better not be connected to the internet.
Let's finish with a quote from 2600. This is the standard that ecommerce should be aiming for, not "Citibank reveals another thousand sets of customer account details in a database fuck-up"
" We do not save your credit card information after your order is complete. We also do not share ANY of your information with anyone. If you've ordered a subscription, your name and address reside on our subscriber database which is located on a machine that is never connected to the net and which is protected by two levels of encryption that even the NSA would have trouble with. We will also NEVER send you unsolicited mail. In other words, we know a thing or two about privacy and we will do everything possible to protect yours." - 2600
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Re:who wouldn't pay for no ads
But... But... skipping commercials is stealing!!!!
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Re:FUD ALERT
Slashdotters constantly whine about how out of touch with technology gov't is. That is until it comes to law enforcement. Then they want the cops to be restricted to using laws designed for 1960 on criminals using technology from 2004.
I do not think this is quite true. The Patriot Act does not say to throw out all of your 1960's equipment and to buy new equipment created in the 21st century. Nor does it say to stop using the laws which were written in the 1960s. It simply broadens those laws as well as loosens the restrictions on when and how the laws can be applied.
Such as wire taps. It used to be that all wire taps (because of Watergate) had to be requested - now they do not. The reason being that in Watergate (1970s if I remember correctly) wiretaps were used by the republicans against the democrats illegally and I believe it was the FBI who did it under direction of the White House staff and/or president.
Now, not thirty years later, wiretaps can again be done without restraint so long as it can be construed to be in defense of the nation. (Which is strange because the republicans are again in office and it means we can have another Watergate and say it is justified because of a terrorist threat.) Also, suspected terrorists can be taken in and held without recourse for an indeterminate amount of time. (As has already happened.)
So basically, we want the cops to be restricted so that they play by the same rules we would have to play by if we were playing at being cops. That being - that there should be equitable checks and balances between the need to investigate possible problems as well as to retain our liberties. "And how," you ask, "do we do that?" Simple - we need a check and balance system which allows someone (say a judge) to decide if a certain action should or should not be taken. Which is (more or less) what we had before the Patriot Act came along.
To be fair though, we could use some changes. The FBI, CIA, NSI, CG, DPS, PDs, FDs, armed forces, and all other emergency agencies should all operate under one system. The reason they didn't was to make it harder to create a Police State. The reason they should is so known offenders can not disappear as easily as they can. So some changes - yes. Police State - no. Yanking people into who-knows-where who say things outside of what someone else considers to be the norm - no. Arresting people who steal - yes. Not using standard practices to do so - no. (ie: Sending Certified, Return Receipt letters to people when dealing with cease and desist matters [instead of E-MAIL!] or a courier if the person refuses to sign for the letter.) And the most controversial part - involving the FBI - yes - IF, as in this case, the person or persons were trafficing across state boundaries. When that happens - it becomes a federal offense and a matter for the FBI. With or without the Patriot Act. -
Re:I no longer care
I don't know about that guy but I have smoked marijuana and Bernie S was in deep legal trouble for the possession of a small rock that could have possibly been used to commit telecommunications fraud, if it were put into a circuit and used on said telecommunications system.
2600 printed a cover awhile back of an american law prohibiting the distribution of blueprints or instructions of certain things during wartime. Oh here it is.
Doesn't Congress *make* the laws of the land, and therefor can say that anything is against the laws of the land in virtue of their ability to create new laws for whatever they say to fall under?
I'm Canadian, and may not have a full understanding of the american legal system, but there appear to have been quite a few laws in the past 20 years or so that have made regular, harmless, day-to-day things illegal, sometimes possibly for the effect that they will serve as a catchall for people committing crimes not yet on the books.
"If you keep treating these kids like terrorists and criminals, sooner or later they are going to start acting like them"-Emmanuel Goldstein. -
Re:I no longer care
I don't know about that guy but I have smoked marijuana and Bernie S was in deep legal trouble for the possession of a small rock that could have possibly been used to commit telecommunications fraud, if it were put into a circuit and used on said telecommunications system.
2600 printed a cover awhile back of an american law prohibiting the distribution of blueprints or instructions of certain things during wartime. Oh here it is.
Doesn't Congress *make* the laws of the land, and therefor can say that anything is against the laws of the land in virtue of their ability to create new laws for whatever they say to fall under?
I'm Canadian, and may not have a full understanding of the american legal system, but there appear to have been quite a few laws in the past 20 years or so that have made regular, harmless, day-to-day things illegal, sometimes possibly for the effect that they will serve as a catchall for people committing crimes not yet on the books.
"If you keep treating these kids like terrorists and criminals, sooner or later they are going to start acting like them"-Emmanuel Goldstein. -
Re:Nuke Dissent
Can they SLAAP Google to stop referencing sites wich critisise them?
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Reminds me of a Case with 2600.com and an Airplane company that didn't want bad critism after it had a plane crash in the Everglades, and it's website site hacked after the company name changed... Of course with the help of the DCMA they have changed the Result of Google Search
It would not help AirTran Airways to know that they were Valujet
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CC has no chanceIIRC, 2600.com won its case concerning the verizonreallysucks.com case. Actually, Verizon realized they had no case and gave in.
The various "cybersquatting" laws could affect this lawsuit. But I think that CC would loose in a legal fight.
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Re:Enough fucking sensationalism
btw if this were 1984, Micheal Moore would not vaporise, but rather become something that if you are caught listening to and or taking seriously, you'd dissapear. Micheal Moore serves as an excellent tool for finding those who do not blindly follow the official party line. 'Why would you want to see Farenheight 9/11? It's terrorist propeganda! You aren't supporting terrorism are you?' That's the 1984ish way of dealing with micheal moore, not to make him vanish. Or at least to have him vanish then replace him with emmanuel goldstein or something to let the people have their rebellion, in a manner that won't get your administration knocked off.
btw wtf is with the [IMG] alt tags on the images today? "Welcome to Slashdot [IMG] [IMG] [IMG] [IMG] ..." anyone else see these today? -
Re:What is the fee...This is FAR FROM the truth behind Kevin Mitnick's story. You you want some REAL STUFF about what happened (about Kevin and about how shitty Takedown is), maybe you should see "Freedom Downtime" instead of "Takedown".
BTW, Freedom Downtime was made by 2600, the same guys behind The Fifth HOPE.